The teacher of jihad
Good thing they're releasing him early, eh? From Japan's Kyodo News:
Indonesia's jailed Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir, who is linked to the Jemaah Islamiyah militant Islamic group, on Thursday vowed to resume teaching jihad, or holy war, against the enemies of Islam after his release from prison next month.Bashir also reiterated his denial that he leads Jemaah Islamiyah, saying the accusation stems from a similar sounding Koran study group he leads.
Since he's already announced his agenda, why are they letting him out?
Ok... please don't think I'm off my rocker. Would anyone agree with me that we really need a multinational black ops hit team.
These jerk offs walk the streets freely. How hard would it be to put a round in their head and call it a day. I do not care how many body guards you have, a well trained snipper can get you.
I just think it is in the worlds best interests to to have a multinational force just for killing terrorist.
Any thoughts?
Right-on Wild Hare!
Why is this guy feeling so oppressed in a Muslim country? Didn't blowing up the Marriott make him feel better?
Nathan, is this cause for reflection on my previous comments that we're losing, and badly? You're obviously an intellegent person. Do these clowns act like they're winning or losing?
They're operating in the gap, the one created by western liberalism, that would prefer to sacrifice its citizens or commit cultural suicide than face the embarassment of admitting they're holy assumptions on diversity and cultural integration are just plain wrong headed.
As stated earlier, they are do measure victory or defeat in conventional Clausewitzian terms. I'm emphasizing the need to alter the paradigms by which the conflict should be gauged and measured, a religious totalitarian ideology that seeks world domination.
How are western states responding to date? Its a question that has a stealth quality, there's an invisible but palpable expectation; everyone is standing around scratching their heads wondering where's the violence threshold to prompt meaningful action by the state to protect citizens from these lunatics. 100, 1000, 10,000 dead? What would you expect Ottawa to do?
Some of the largest mosques are currently being constructed in major European capitals, usually within throwing distance to a major cathedral. Whats the symbolism in that to the Ummah?
Correction,
"As stated earlier, they do not measure victory or defeat in conventional Clausewitzian terms." Ughh, where's my spell check???
To expound in my point.
Israel does it. Yes they take some heat for it. But could you imagine what it would be like there if they didn't crack a few skulls or give someone a new sphincter in the forhead from time to time?
It is not as if the Palestinian's don't deserve it. I know.. you all are thinking LGF'er alert. I'm just saying it's time to make them think before they step outside and give their rants.
I believe it is not the leadership of these groups that wants to die. They send their minions to die. Turn the table hold them accountable. Start laying the smack on a few and watch how quiet it gets.
hmmm how about putting them all on south park or in loony tunes cartoons. i found old ww2 era bugs bunny cartoons like bugs in nip the nips and a few others that would be impossible to show on tv today ok back to my coffee
haha I have seen those cartoons.. I have not seen them since I was a child. Man.. thats funny
jimmy,why are you always trivializing these matters?!
You seem to be the only person on this board that takes such serious issues very lightly....what should we make of that?!
Wild hare,before i got to your post exactly the same thing crossed my mind and i was just about to post it,but i got to your message and i didn`t want to repeat what you just said.
It is a perfect solution and probably the only solution to the problem: a kidon unit speciallized in discrete assasination is what we need.
It would also terrorize the terrorists,something they are not used to.
I think it is a matter of time before you start seeing terror for terror. Americans have a long history of hate mongering. Not something to be proud of but true none the less.
Though the general American is not prone to violence. There are groups within the our population that are.
I do not believe it will take much more to set them in motion.
Adela if you don't mind me asking where are you from?
Spare me the sanctimonious navel-gazing, Hare. The answer is not to blow the rusty trumpets of "We're no better than they are." That tune is so yesterday. The answer does not lie in a surrender of sovereignity to a multinational hit squad, who has no responsibility but to some generalized collective Western interests. No, the answer is for Americans to give a rip about their country, and for every other country to do the same, sharing info where it benefits themselves, and defending their own country as if their survival depends on it. Giving up power to faceless multinational organizations means less freedom for us. Creating tight-knit societies that defend at least themselves if not their allies is the only way out. Any other course is tyranny.
“Spare me the sanctimonious navel-gazing, Hare.”
**You used Sanctimonious in a sentence … very cool.
“The answer is not to blow the rusty trumpets of "We're no better than they are." That tune is so yesterday.”
**I never said “we we’re no better then they are.” In fact we are better. Do you see millions flocking to the Middle East to escape western oppression? But you do see that here and other westernized countries.
“The answer does not lie in a surrender of sovereignity to a multinational hit squad, who has no responsibility but to some generalized collective Western interests.”
**Tell me how we would surrender our sovereignty? The United States foots the bill for most action taken in the world. Why wouldn’t this unit serve our purpose or any other western allied country?
**I do not hear you crying about NATO. I do believe they are multinational. Do they serve US interests only? I think not. So we have a black ops team that answers only the Heads of State of this country and its allies. Using a collective Intel platform for choosing targets of a threatening nature.
“ No, the answer is for Americans to give a rip about their country, and for every other country to do the same, sharing info where it benefits themselves, and defending their own country as if their survival depends on it.”
**I lean towards the idea that they should defend our interests and theirs as if their survival depends on it? Sorry call me crazy but If the West falls. So do the rest of cards in the house.
“Giving up power to faceless multinational organizations means less freedom for us.”
**Who said anything about giving up power to anyone? I’m not advocating that at all. Nor would I ever. I talking about using a collective intel and resources to eliminate potential threats.
“Creating tight-knit societies that defend at least themselves if not their allies is the only way out. Any other course is tyranny.”
**I’m all for self -defense and preservation, IE the reason for my post to begin with. If you think my idea is tyrannical try taking a look at the growing threat on the horizon. That is in fact tyrannical.
It's not often I get blasted on this site.. That was most interesting.
adela call it hardening maybe getting used to it ive been reading about these things heavily for 3 years before that i watched stuff happen since i was a kid and watched munich in 72 on the news. right now we are in a war of epic proportions but our media is not totally behind the government hence my sarcastic remarks about the pc/dhimmitude in our media it is maddening but i also find looking for humor sometimes keeps the blood pressure down
Jimmy,that sounds a lot more reasonable. I`m from Chicago.
Adela,USA.
keep kerry away from the executive branch, put assination back on the table, increase human intelligence, and fight fire with fire. this does not cost us our sovereignty, it protects it.
islamofacists are quite lucid, and not at all unreasonable; they understand the nature of our morality, and exploit it as a weakness.
assASination
dc watson,
They're letting him out because they (the government) are islamists, just like Bashir. "They" are busy enacting laws based on the Shariah. "They" are making christians 2nd class citizens in their own country. "They" are behind the sectarian violence in Indonesia. Their thugs burn, destroy and bomb churches in Indonesia, 310 churches between 1996 - 2003.
a few well placed nukes and they can all be with allah, death to tyrants,kings and terroists