Good observations from The Australian, with thanks to Jean-Luc:
ANYBODY who still doubts the appalling lengths Islamic terrorists will go to achieve their evil ends should check the news coverage of Thursday's failed suicide bombing on the West Bank.The human bomb, a boy in his early teens, lost his nerve, broke down and pleaded with Israeli troops guarding a checkpoint to save him. The soldiers kept their nerve, and used a robot to cut him free from the 8 kilograms of explosives strapped to his body. If the whole incident had not been filmed by a passing Palestinian cameraman who works for a press agency, cynics would be dismissing it as a stunt organised by the Israelis. But it is an awfully routine part of life in the Middle East. Suicide bombers are generally young men, although a new tactic favoured by Palestinian terrorists is to bully young women into blowing themselves up, on the promise that by dying they will atone for their so-called sexual infidelities. The only thing that makes this latest attempted attack more grotesque than usual is the fact the bomber was so young. The corruption in the souls of terrorist commanders who sacrifice the lives of young people while they, and their own children, stay safe beggars belief.
It takes an extraordinarily brutal commitment to a cause, be it the destruction of Israel or the independence of Chechnya, to use suicide bombings as a standard strategy. But it is what nations around the world, including Australia, must understand they also face. The murder of 88 Australians and other innocents in Bali, bombings in Manhattan, Moscow and Madrid, and in any number of Muslim cities around the world demonstrate that ordinary people everywhere are at risk in the war on terror. And beyond breaking up the terror cells and capturing or killing their commanders, there is nothing we can do to stop them. We certainly cannot reason with Islamic fundamentalists who believe they are fighting decadent Westerners and apostate Muslims to establish God's rule on earth in a war that may take centuries. We no longer hear the guff about terrorism being caused by poverty as much as we did immediately after September 11, but people who still think we can appease the terrorists should consider Thursday's attack. People who will use a child to murder other children as part of a struggle to destroy Israel and impose religious rule throughout the Muslim world are interested in winning, not negotiating. That fundamentalists have no hope of ever taking power through the ballot box, as demonstrated by the trouncing of the Islamic fundamentalist party in last weekend's Malaysian elections, will only make the terrorists more determined to follow the path of violence.
Which means we have no option but to stand firm and not be swayed from prosecuting the war on terror on all fronts – Iraq included. In Washington this week, Richard Clarke, a former counter-intelligence chief, testified that the Bush administration was obsessed with Saddam Hussein and underestimated the threat from Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'ida organisation before September 11. His old colleague, former CIA director George Tenet, denied it. If Mr Clarke is right, it was a grievous operational failing. But this does not mean the United States should now lose sight of the need to fight terrorism on all fronts. To abandon the Iraqi people to the terrorists, who are now desperate to reduce Iraq to anarchy, and focus solely on hunting down bin laden in Afghanistan would be like the US ignoring Hitler's Germany and only fighting in the Pacific because it was surprised by the Japanese at Pearl Harbour. To defeat Islamic terror, the US and its allies, including Australia, must defend Iraq. As the Malaysian elections demonstrate, genuine Muslims will renounce fundamentalism when they have a chance, and a stable democratic Iraq will light a path away from terror throughout the Middle East. Labor leader Mark Latham talks of bringing our troops home from Iraq to defend Australia. What he does not get is that in the war on terror, conventional borders and battle-lines are meaningless. What Darwin represented for the national defence of Australia in 1942, Baghdad does today.
Some Arabs are already saying it was staged (the boy bomber). The reason why they're saying that is because that is EXACTLY what they do! The whole al-Durha incident was staged from the very beginning with 12-year-old Mohammed el-Durha the star of their 'snuff movie.'
Oh these Crusaders have no limits. I hope the nice Christian people you pretend to represent have read the Independent (UK):
Half of All UK Army Recruits Read At Grade 5 Level
By Sean Rayment
A confidential study into the educational standards of soldiers has revealed that half of all new infantry recruits only have the reading and writing skills of 11-year-olds.
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And that is the British, imagine the American soldiers full of their Mexican volunteers and many from the Hood: you guys should fight a crusade against illiteracy and ignorance instead of murdering hungry third world God fearing men, women and children. May God save these soldiers from drugs and homelessness after they come back from the abuse of Judeo-Christian slavery?
Which side would "Jesus" choose? The ones who remember him five times every day, or the one who are now posting on some hate site when he/she suppose to be enjoying a good old religious day.
PS: Please avoid posting ano, I know its the usual suspects - be brave to say you don't like God and admit to your name like KC etc.
Hoodie,
Are you for real? I'm starting to think that you are really an evangelical Christian posting this nonsense to make jihadis look stupid.
The Christian sabbath is indeed to be dedicated to God, but that does not mean that no activity should be undertaken. If doing good is nescessary, it is just as nescessary on a Sunday. Jesus himself gave us the example of doing good on the sabbath. Plus, posters on this site who are opposed to jihad are Christian, Jewish, Hindu, atheist and others. All of us value the right to choose how to live our lives and will do whatever is nescessary to maintain these freedoms.
A straight question for you hoodie, do you consider mohommad to be a good man and a good example to follow. If you do, I would love you to tell me how you came to this conclusion. Please refer to a morality that any good hearted person can appreciate however. Not the atrocious circular argument of 'he is prophet because gave us quran, quran is holy because mohammad say so.'
Hood Jihadi
Nice to meet you again. Slavery. Do think this is an appropriate topic on which to engage the West as Islam is curently rounding up and enslaving various peoples around the world, most notably in the Sudan. Islam has a long history of enslaving others, even captured Amerians that were unlucky enough to find themselves sailing near North Africa. All of these events are well documented.
Those poor individuals for which you feel so sorry are now where near the state of slavery. They may feel economically deprived. Maybe. But, they are not slaves. They aren't even enslaved by ideology as you appear to be.
As for my dear Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, you can't claim to pray to HIM five times a day because YOU don't even believe that HE is GOD. In fact, you don't pray to GOD five times a day, you pray to ALLAH, a being that is definitely not GOD.
Hope to hear from you soon, and as you well know, I am not anonymous.
Dear smdemd (I'm sorry, I can't call you God), you are obvious an atheist, or perhaps an agnostic. You certainly have a well-developed notion of what God is and isn't. Good for you. At least you are thinking. Some people blindly accept God without thinking, and conversely, others blindly reject God, again without thinking.
Someday when you need Him, He will be there. He is always available for those want or need Him. Of course, if you want Him, you will have to make your desire known while you are stll in this life.
Good luck to you, and by all means, keep thinking.
It is strange to me that co-religionists should talk of belief as if it is fact, Muslims and Christians tend to share the mutually exclusive problem that you both know absolute truths when all you have is absolute beliefs. As for the comments from hood jihadi about the literacy effectiveness of some soldiers you really should not give half a story, the Independent, ( a paper with a liberal agenda), failed to mention that the recruits were for the Junior Entrants, 16 yrs of age and the tests were done on initial recruitment interviews when the boys were just 14 yrs of age. I wonder what bearing any of this may have on a soldiers ability to know right from wrong or to take a quick decision under pressure. The answer is "not a lot" so why the snide remarks about issues you don't know very much about. the calibre of a soldier is not measured in his literacy scores.
epg
As for your info that anti-Muslims like Jews, Hindus, and etc come to this Zionist disinformation centre. All of the people you mentioned believe that one can go to heaven if they are people of good conduct - at least on the politically correct books. So you can't quarrel with me about my Jihadi ways. Any God including my car would do as God.
You said the illiterate mulattos were not abused or enslaved, but I think you are ignoring facts. The poor young men are drop-outs, outcasts within their own communities because of drugs use, ex-convicts and under achievers. Just like the Mullah's look for uneducated tribalist people like in Afghanistan. The US is using young men who need a good family and understanding of moralities for chemical and biological experimentations.
There are many slavery types that go on in this world, the ones the Christians use is a Sudanese thing - nothing to do with Islam. You should condemn the Christians who also abduct Christian children from their families for use in their drugs trades and ethnic wars. You should encourage peace between the people instead of supplying arms and don't lie because planes with Christian charity signs dropping weapons are well documented in that area.
"Hood Jihadi", your pathetic response is understandable. After all, you have been deceived into believing Mohammed is a "prophet" when there is no prophecy in the Koran. Read Deuteronomy 18:20-22 for God's test of a true prophet. Old Mo falls pitifully short. What does Koran mean anyway in Arabic? Written, or recired/spoken? If Mohammed "wrote" the Koran, then he disobeyed the "angel" who told him to "recite!" Dictation does not count as a "miracle" in most countries. As for your generalization on illiteracy, I have known US Army Privates with PHD's. The military gives its' people education, from high school to college. However in the Muslim world there are millions of illiterate Muslims who can only recite a few verses from the koran at best. I have spoken with Muslims who can recite some verses but were unable to say what they meant. There is no stigma attached to illiteracy in the Muslim world because Mohammed was an illeterate man. His greatest achievement was "writing" a book, the koran. But why then is there no copy of the koran in his own hand? Why was the koran not codified and put into its' current form until years after his death? For many of these poor souls their highest goal is to be like him. Ignorant and illiterate. Sad. Look at the list of accomplishments between the West and the Muslim worlds: Islam has contributed nothing to modern society. Don't give me the old line about "Arabic numbers", please. We all know they are actually Hindu numbers that were picked up by Arab traders and used by Greek mathematicians. Modern Algebra is French in origin (Google "Evariste Galois"), and derived from the original Greek. Pythagoras, Euclid, Archimedes, et al, were the fathers of modern mathematics, not Arabs. All modern inventions, the telephone, the telegraph, radio, television, medicine, radiology, nuclear technology, microwaves, automobiles, airplanes, space travel, computers, movies, etc., were inventions and discoveries of Western civilization. Einstein, a great Jewish mathematician, has no equal in the Arabic world. Why has Allah not blessed his people with similar geniuses? The Koran says the sun "sets in a muddy pool". In the Koran sanitation consists of wiping one's buttocks an even number of times with a rock instead of an odd number of times. Please, that kind of rationale is laughable to educated men. As for critisizing people who pray, what of the Muslim practice of praying 5 times per day? Have you read what Jesus had to say about those who pray continually? "Murdering hungry third world God fearing men, women and children", LOL! That's a good one! What about Saddam and his stooges who filled mass graves? Were their murders justified? What about the killing of unarmed women and children in Sudan, and Indonesia? These people were under Islamic rule, so whose fault is it they were starvving and hungry? It seems the majority of murders being comitted nowadays are being done by Muslims against defenseless civilians. If you read the bible you will find that the only time Jesus ever acted aggressively was in defense of his father's house. Our homeland was attacked on 9-11, shall we not then defend ourselves? Just be glad we haven't decided Islam is the cause of all the trouble and nuked Mecca and Medina.
"Hood Jihadi", are you truly ignorant of American military facts? Let me enlighten you. If someone has a history of drug use they cannot join the US military. Drug screening is part of the physicals given volunteers. BTW All the men and women of the US military forces are volunteers. While in the military everyone gets random drug tests. If someone is found using drugs in the military they are given rehabilitation, or if the offense is severe, prison time and a dishonorable discharge. If someone has a prison record they cannot be in the military. Potential recruits must pass an intelligence test. Anyone who does not have a high school diploma must get one before they are allowed to reenlist. Then they are eligible for college education if they want. I understand that in Afghanistan it is common for the Jihadis there to smoke hashish and opium. Please get your facts straight. I hate to see you look the fool.
Hoodie (incredible as it may seem) has actually made a valuable point, and one which we should take very seriously.
In the mid-eighties (1983?) there was a massive report on the status of the American public educational system. It was summed up with the comment that if an enemy of the United States wanted to defeat us, it would create the system we have in place and then sit back and wait.
It is very important for us to understand not only math, science, and literature, but also precisely how we and they differ, and why we are right and they are wrong.
This means that we must have a well-taught objective philosophy in our schools, from K-12. Unfortunately, we have a non-objective course in "PC" from K-12 instead.
This means that instead of each citizen understanding why we must oppose the terrorists and all that they subsume, we are depending on the "Great American Subconscious" instead, which is the left-over "feelings" from the time of the Founding.
Hoodie, you are right on that point only--the importance of an education. Ancient Sparta was the first historically documented use of education to be used as a tool for the implementation of government policy, followed by the tax-supported compulsory system of the Reformation, and, of course, every government-run school system since.
We in the United States must understand precisely what the goal of our current educational system is; it is NOT academic excellence, it is the creation of a compliant population. In order to have compliance, the very tools of thought--philosophy--must be avoided.
And our children are definitely avoiding the kind of thinking that led to the Constitution.
Bummer.
hood,
"PS: Please avoid posting ano, I know its the usual suspects"
You should follow your own advice.
jay
Hood Jihadi
We are having so much fun tonight. Slavery was eliminated in the United States more than 150 years ago. It is well documented that slavery still exists in Muslim countries as we speak. Why, because Islam allows slavery, and Christianity no longer permits slavery.
As for the unarmed women and children in the Sudan that are under Muslim rule, I find the fact that they are under Muslim rule to be abhorrant. This means that they are dhimmis or worse. Everyone here knows what happens to a dhimmi. They are slaves. They have to differentiate their clothing from Muslims. Do they wear badges with apes and pigs as they were forced to do in other centuries? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.
As for continuous praying. Who says that Christians don't pray continuously. Just because you don't see us scraping on noses on the floor all day long doesn't mean that we don't pray. God doesn't require screaming and shouting, in fact, Jesus did say to pray quietly and out of sight so that we wouldn't be like the Pharisees that went through the streets praying so that all could see their piety. Quiet prayer is fulfilling their Lord's instructions. As you see, you are wrong again.
Hope to hear from you soon.
I wonder if he means that I am anonymous? No-one's ever asked for my name, but if you want to talk one-on-one, no worries. Sorry, I have a reasonable fear that my email addy and name will be used in spam attacks, as others have already experienced here. Anyways...
Wes said:
"It is strange to me that co-religionists should talk of belief as if it is fact, Muslims and Christians tend to share the mutually exclusive problem..."
I really suggest you read Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ" Wes. What Strobel does is examine the available information from several different angles by asking experts in the field of literary criticism, NT analysis, archaeology the tough questions. He uses them to put the claims of Christ in a crucicible to see if they are genuine.