
Australian jihadi David Hicks
Australian TV is airing a sympathetic documentary about David Hicks, a convert to Islam who is now "awaiting before a military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba." Piers Akerman in the Sunday Telegraph (thanks to Kevin) has a few choice words about this publicly-funded puff piece, but one section jumps out in particular:
[Hicks] also loved the fanatical Islamist notion that the religion would sweep the world, subduing all those who resisted."Pakistan, Kashmir and Afghanistan (will) join together in a true Islamic state. The Islamic state is nearly completed. Love, David," he wrote.
Hicks couldn't wait to fight the infidel, even considering the possibility of martyrdom through death. "As a Muslim, I believe in destiny. I will always fight for the truth, Islam," he wrote.
Where did he, as a convert to Islam in Australia, get the idea that a true Islamic state was being formed in central Asia? One may assume that his Islamic mentors instructed him to read the Qur'an and other texts important to the faith. Why did he miss all the peaceful injunctions we keep hearing so much about? Why didn't Sheikh Al-Hilali, or his daughters, explain to him that all this jihad talk was just Arabic exaggeration and poetry?
Why won't Australian and American Muslims acknowledge that recruitment for jihad goes on in their mosques, and embark on a comprehensive program of reform?
Why won't Australian and American Muslims acknowledge that recruitment for jihad goes on in their mosques, and embark on a comprehensive program of reform?
Why? because recruiting Terrorists is what their job is.
The facilitation of the slaughtering of NON muslims is their job, why would they stop doing what they get paid for ?
Beside they enjoy it...........they like it and as such it will be very hard to stop them doing it.
I think it's obvious most Muslims are sympathetic to submission of the infidel.(and submission in general)
Same as most Americans are sympathetic to freedom.
Sure there are some Americans who do not believe in freedom, and there are some muslims who do not believe in Islam.
Nonetheless an American who doesnt believe in freedom is still an American, and a Muslim who doesnt believe in Islam, is still a Muslim.
Death for apostasy is similiar to death for traitors.
I mean how many times must Muslims tell us that Islam is not a religion but a way of life, before we believe it?
The mujahadeen are their 'troops'...and most people support their troops right?
I think many Muslims consider terrorism collateral damage. They may regret it, but they arent against what the terrorists are fighting for. And after terrorists attacks, Muslims mainly worry how it will effect their 'cause'.
(Or maybe more appropriately their "image", we hear that word alot from muslims, and it is important to understand what they mean, because believing the 'image' of Islam (religion of peace and all that jazz) is the same really as believing in Islam, it has the same effect anyway which is propagating Islam)
Anyway, believing in the cause of the terrorists is why they dont march in protest of terrorism, but will march worldwide for a headscarf ban in schools.
Thats why they dont say a damn word about their brethren enslaving people in Africa!
So to me Islam is the opposite of everything I believe in, and my 'way of life'.
I think it's time we all started listening when Muslims say Islam isnt a religion, its a way of life. Because they mean it.
Islam is a totally different and actually opposite CONSCIOUSNESS than most Americans, or free peoples, consciousness.
That is why converts seem brainwashed, because THEY ARE!
Peoples actions start with thoughts, and thoughts come from ideals. And these ideals are different for Muslims.
The ideal is not freedom in Islam, equality is not an ideal in Islam, love in not an ideal in Islam, and surely the search for truth is not an ideal in Islam!
We are talking a clash of ideals, or in religious terms, a 'war in heaven'.
So the most important fight in this war will be the war of ideas..or ideals.
I'm sure that the war in Afghanistan and Iraq is much less frightening to Saudi and Iran than the plan to bring freedom and democracy to the middle east. They know perfectly well that the real war is a war of ideals, as you can see by the way they spend so much effort and money to portray the 'image' of Islam as peaceful,
tolerant and just.
CAIR knows how important this is.
I suppose this is the reason the physical jihad is called the 'lesser' jihad. They know the greater jihad is in convincing non-muslims, AND MUSLIMS, that Islam is correct as a higher ideal.
Muslims know our ideals well, although they dont agree with them, it is about time we knew their ideals as well, and faced the facts.
We either face the greater jihad in 'battle', or we will undoubtedly be stabbled in the back by the lesser jihad.
Ok, stepping off the soapbox ;-)
Good morning to all......I think that alot of these people must have some sort of void in their lives, or don't want to just be part of normal society, something. I'm no Psychiatrist, but these converts have to be somewhat touched in the head to think that they're going into Jihad with a chance of winning.
The big problem is that the Jihadis hide among the peaceful Muslims, like the true cowards they are. This is why Modrate Muslims, who far outnumber these radical lunatics, need to take a stand and stamp out this insane faction of their own faith.
They need to forget about the radicals considering them infidels and just get rid of them.....Unfortunately, they continue to remain silent, which makes all of us wonder where their true loyalty lies.
These bombings, no matter where they take place, are an act of war. I see too much red tape playing out with the ones that have been caught. Punishment has not been swift enough, nor has it been harsh enough. Treason is treason, and the maximum punishment should be carried out.
No such animal as a peaceful or moderate Muslim because to be Muslim one must accept ALL the teachings of Islam or die if one tries ro renounce them. Since jihad is a teaching of Islam, every good Muslim must adhere to it, no matter how bloody it gets. The most the Muslim will do is protest when other Muslims are killed; you will hear no such protests about the killing of non-Muslims. Therefore, peace and moderation can never be part of the Muslim stance to the rest of the world that is Christian or Jewish, or Hindu, or whatever.
No Muslim will decry recruitment for jihad in the mosques because jihad is central to Islam. Take away jihad, you take away the proliferation of Islam, and you also say that Mohammed was wrong. Therefore, Muslims will engage in all manner of semantic contortions about jihad, but they will never renounce it because Islam needs jihad. For, since Muslims believe Islam is the only true religion and all others are apostate, jihad is the means by which those who resist are to be brought into Islam, whether they want it or not.
Since, to Islam, jihad is as the Lord's Supper or the Cross is to Christianity, what need is there to admit openly that recruitment for it goes on? Does the Christian Church need to admit that the Lord's Supper is part of the divine service and that people engage in it? No. It's just a fact of Christian life and worship. Ditto, with jihad with regard to Islam. However, since the Lord's Supper doesn't require Christians to kill anyone, Christians have no need to lie about it if asked. Because communion is peaceful and reverent, Christians also have no need to define it as other than it is to make it palatable to non-Christians.
That is not the case for jihad of Islam. Conscious of the truly bloody nature of jihad, and knowing that the teachings of Islam permit lying as a way of advancing jihad, Muslims will lie to Christians and others who do not take the time to discover what jihad really is.
To recap, Muslims will not renounce jihad; they will lie about the its true meaning; and, by lying about jihad, they advance it. Therefore, there can be no peaceful or moderate Muslim since all Muslims, by their action, inaction, or their words, advance jihad.
"[Hicks] also loved the fanatical Islamist notion that the religion would sweep the world, subduing all those who resisted.
"Pakistan, Kashmir and Afghanistan (will) join together in a true Islamic state. The Islamic state is nearly completed."
Islamic state, subduing the infidel,"fighting for the 'truth', Islam," is definitely not a "fanatical Islamist notion" as the Sunday Telegraph says.
I'd say that is pretty much mainstream Islamic thought. It is in the Quran, Muhammed practiced it...how is that fanatical? unless one thinks
Muhammed was fanatical.
Now we are getting somewhere. :)
This idea is also promulgated by much of the liberal Western media and liberal university intellectuals. In their endless quest for moral relativity, they and similar groups believe jihadists can do no wrong and the Americans, Israelis can do no right.
In the war of ideas, the greatest danger we face is not from outside foreign jihadists. It is from the appeasers within our country who would gladly sell us out. While we keep our eye on the enemy from abroad, we must never forget and deal with the enemy within.
How different is that from the challenge we pose to the Muslim moderates?
Have we managed to mitigate our own non-Muslim enemy within either? That is the issue the gives me the greatest concern. When it is merely just the fight between civilized world and jihadists, we can rally enough support.
But the truth is every day we have someone within the free world who is working to tear it down, even as the jihadists plan on killing Americans.
the enemy within:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/164506_spy12.html
"Why won't Australian and American Muslims acknowledge that recruitment for jihad goes on in their mosques, and embark on a comprehensive program of reform?"
Because if they did they would have to admit the truth, that Islam is not a religion of peace, but of war. The moderate Muslims are afraid of retaliation from the violent ones. They are afraid of retaliation and being denounced by their leaders. They are afraid of rejection by the Islamic community, and they are afraid of the infidels. If they look to the Koran they find the verses the jihadis quote and reason that at some level at least, they must be right. Jihad is viewed as the sixth pillar of Islam. Even moderate Muslims wage jihad by trying to argue with non-Muslims to convert. The majority of funds for mosques in non-Muslim countries has come from oil based nations that are promoting the violence, like Saudi.
To me a more relevant question would be why do the US and other countries allow the continued construction of mosques so they can spread their message of hate? Isn't preaching hate from a pulpit inciting hate crimes? Why not place a Federal moratorium on the building of all mosques and Islamic "learning centers"? During WWII we suspended the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and arrested and imprisioned thousands of American citizens in interment camps simply because they were Japanese until we were sure of their loyalties. If these attacks continue, would it be out of the question to do the same thing now?
SHame on the SBS and ABC channels who have become fifth columnists for Al QAEDA.
Tonight ABC australia presented the Spanish election results as if Spain had "come to its Senses" in electing a socailist governement and adding gleefully that Spanish troups would be "withdrawn from Iraq" immediatleye.
This is sheer propaganda and of course as in the case of the BBC all paid for by the Taxpayer.
to suggest that cowtowing to Islamists will prevent acts of terrorism is a huge falsehood and they know it.
by the very nature of its platform, the left wing is a repository for groupthink. as such, they will never come out of their illusions. left-wing power is wielded in defense (soviet union during ww2), during revolution, during post-revolutionary class and political purges, and to coerce the populace (made up of the nobel working classes that the left-wing revolutionaries have so nobly freed from capitalistic tyranny) into social changes that are the means to utopian ends. there is hope that individually, left-wingers will re-evaluate (this often happens after being victimized by crime), but that does require the individuality of winston smith -- and may meet with the same persecution.
even if the left-wing begins dying in large numbers, it is likely that they will remain more loyal to the enemy than their cohabitants as they have gone down the path of blaming america first -- which leads to the obvious choice of either willfully disregarding the existence of the enemy or embracing the enemy.
Spain didn't come to their senses, they've just opened the door to death and destruction in their own land unless they submit to Islam.....
What a mistake this has been. I mourn for their dead, and was hoping they would be so pissed that they would've jumped into this war with both feet, sending in more troops and sending in intel to find bin Laden.....it appears they've gone completely in the other direction.
Leave David Hicks alone. He has done nothing wrong. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? They have found nothing on David Hicks apart from the fact that he fought in Afganistan against a country who had come out to terrorise the population. Now who is the terrorist, think about that one, David only fought for the oppressed, and only fought those who fought him, that is not the definition of a terriorist.