An IDF soldier being brought into hospital in Be'er Sheva after being injured in a suicide car bombing in Gaza on Wednesday (Haaretz)
The jihad in Israel continues, of course. From Haaretz, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
Four IDF soldiers were injured, two moderately and two lightly, when they foiled a major suicide car bomb attack Wednesday on Gaza Strip settlers. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, in which a jeep flying an Israeli flag and packed with as much as 300 kilograms of explosives drew the suspicion of Givati Brigade infantrymen on patrol near the Mor Bridge between the Kissufim crossing and the Gush Katif bloc of settlements.Hamas identified the man driving the jeep as Tariq Khamayed, 24, of the Nuseirat refugee camp.
The IDF believes Khamayed planned to blow himself up against a bus or a convoy on the Kissufim-Gush Katif highway. The military had received general intelligence warnings of the possibility of such an attack.
The soldiers in a Givati company commander's patrol vehicle spotted the jeep as it headed through an off-road area toward a road connecting Kfar Darom and the large Gush Katif settlement bloc.
Interesting. Why would Hamas want to target Gaza Strip settlers, what with the withdrawal plan and all? Unless they want to provoke Israel into staying...
Or, they might be wanting to bag a few large atrocities before the (possible) withdrawal, so as to be in a better position to claim credit.
Or, they just like to commit racist mass murder.
Any which way, kudos to the IDF.
As usual the Islamopigs continue to dress up as women and hide behin children to get a good shot. To compare them to cowards is an insult to all true cowards. The West will slowly answer the call and realize that Israel, Blair and the US should not stand alone.
Every soldier I see here (Israel) I salute! They (the terrorists) want it to seem like we are evacuating (G-d forbid it should happen!) 'under fire.' Meanwhile, thousands of Likud activists against this plan have gone to the homes of Likud members with material, including video presentations, to convince them to vote against this plan! They have managed to convince large numbers of people to vote against it. Kudos to them, as well!!
Chaya Eitan:
I hate to sound ignorant, but wouldn't Israel be more secure if it gave up the Gaza? I have thought for a while now that "statehood" entails certain responsibilities, and that by allowing the Palestinians to have their own state they would have no choice but to be a relatively peaceful neighbor if they wanted to keep it.
Do you think that giving them their own state would be like giving them enough rope to hang themselves with?
Shalom
HK is correct. Sharon was quoted yesterday as saying that Israeli reaction to any future pali atrocities is going to be a lot more severe once the puullout occurs. Heaven help the palis if they ever got their own state, and launched attacks against Israel- then it would be state-against-state warfare, and the Israelis would be justified in any amount of suppression of such attacks.
Alternatively, if Israel were to effect ethnic cleansing (no, I'm not using the term in a perjorative sense here) and displace ALL so-called palestinians from Samaria and Judea and the Gaza Strip, then the security of the State of Israel would be significantly enhanced. Jordan may as well be the de jure, as opposed to the de facto, palestinian state.
Before I start ranting on about how bad Isreali's are, I wont to seperate myself from being Anti-Jewish.
Yes I am a Muslim, and against stereotypical views, I do have quite a few Jewish friends, and had an jewish girlfriend some time back, and know quite abit about Jewish culture, so no one can say im racist, anti-jewish because I am def. 100% not.
We (myself and my jewish friends) often discuss this Isreal/Palestianian conflict in friendly way...
Along the lines of this:
(If some Isreali person who is here/ knowledgable person could clarify some points that I am going to raise about Isreal.)
Some people have heard of the "Three Strong Oaths" in the Torah:
They Jews have accepted three oaths:
"by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a . "
Later this message was clarified by senior Rabbi's
"Even if the nations wanted to kill the Jews with terrible torture, the Jews are forbidden to change the applicability of the Oaths."
This therefore means that occupation of the Palestine is prohibited, and is prohibited by the Torah itself?
Anyway, enough about me jibbering, here is a link, written by Orthodox Jews regarding Isreal:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
Highly recommended reading material!
(I wont go into the anti-Isreal and anti-Sharon demonstrations held by Jews worldwide, leave that till another time/ your own research)
Now onto Hamas...
I have seen quite few links on this site to Pro-Isreal sites (... not pro-Jew sites, no true Jewish person will, or has ever supported Isreal)
Do Hamas have the right to target Isreali's occupying their land?
That is a good question, hard to answer.
Read some of the sites below, then rethink the question!
http://www.tyronenicholas.com/archives/000028.html
http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/israel_brutal_aggression.html
http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
Remember,
No way am I anti-Jewish, I have many Jewish friends, and I will continue being their mates, but read both sides of the story before judging whether Hamas, suicide bombers have any other way...... or are they blowing themselved up for a laugh!!!
Palestinians (innocent familes) are being brutally treated everyday, thrown out of homes, shot at, terrorised constantly, no religion should accept this, afterall, UN does say, their Occupation is ILLEGAL.
Before I start ranting on about how bad Isreali's are, I wont to seperate myself from being Anti-Jewish.
Yes I am a Muslim, and against stereotypical views, I do have quite a few Jewish friends, and had an jewish girlfriend some time back, and know quite abit about Jewish culture, so no one can say im racist, anti-jewish because I am def. 100% not.
We (myself and my jewish friends) often discuss this Isreal/Palestianian conflict in friendly way...
Along the lines of this:
(If some Isreali person who is here/ knowledgable person could clarify some points that I am going to raise about Isreal.)
Some people have heard of the "Three Strong Oaths" in the Torah:
They Jews have accepted three oaths:
"by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a . "
Later this message was clarified by senior Rabbi's
"Even if the nations wanted to kill the Jews with terrible torture, the Jews are forbidden to change the applicability of the Oaths."
This therefore means that occupation of the Palestine is prohibited, and is prohibited by the Torah itself?
Anyway, enough about me jibbering, here is a link, written by Orthodox Jews regarding Isreal:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
Highly recommended reading material!
(I wont go into the anti-Isreal and anti-Sharon demonstrations held by Jews worldwide, leave that till another time/ your own research)
Now onto Hamas...
I have seen quite few links on this site to Pro-Isreal sites (... not pro-Jew sites, no true Jewish person will, or has ever supported Isreal)
Do Hamas have the right to target Isreali's occupying their land?
That is a good question, hard to answer.
Read some of the sites below, then rethink the question!
http://www.tyronenicholas.com/archives/000028.html
http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/israel_brutal_aggression.html
http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
Remember,
No way am I anti-Jewish, I have many Jewish friends, and I will continue being their mates, but read both sides of the story before judging whether Hamas, suicide bombers have any other way...... or are they blowing themselved up for a laugh!!!
Palestinians (innocent familes) are being brutally treated everyday, thrown out of homes, shot at, terrorised constantly, no religion should accept this, afterall, UN does say, their Occupation is ILLEGAL.
Before I start ranting on about how bad Isreali's are, I wont to seperate myself from being Anti-Jewish.
Yes I am a Muslim, and against stereotypical views, I do have quite a few Jewish friends, and had an jewish girlfriend some time back, and know quite abit about Jewish culture, so no one can say im racist, anti-jewish because I am def. 100% not.
We (myself and my jewish friends) often discuss this Isreal/Palestianian conflict in friendly way...
Along the lines of this:
(If some Isreali person who is here/ knowledgable person could clarify some points that I am going to raise about Isreal.)
Some people have heard of the "Three Strong Oaths" in the Torah:
They Jews have accepted three oaths:
"by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a . "
Later this message was clarified by senior Rabbi's
"Even if the nations wanted to kill the Jews with terrible torture, the Jews are forbidden to change the applicability of the Oaths."
This therefore means that occupation of the Palestine is prohibited, and is prohibited by the Torah itself?
Anyway, enough about me jibbering, here is a link, written by Orthodox Jews regarding Isreal:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
Highly recommended reading material!
(I wont go into the anti-Isreal and anti-Sharon demonstrations held by Jews worldwide, leave that till another time/ your own research)
Now onto Hamas...
I have seen quite few links on this site to Pro-Isreal sites (... not pro-Jew sites, no true Jewish person will, or has ever supported Isreal)
Do Hamas have the right to target Isreali's occupying their land?
That is a good question, hard to answer.
Read some of the sites below, then rethink the question!
http://www.tyronenicholas.com/archives/000028.html
http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/israel_brutal_aggression.html
http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
Remember,
No way am I anti-Jewish, I have many Jewish friends, and I will continue being their mates, but read both sides of the story before judging whether Hamas, suicide bombers have any other way...... or are they blowing themselved up for a laugh!!!
Palestinians (innocent familes) are being brutally treated everyday, thrown out of homes, shot at, terrorised constantly, no religion should accept this, afterall, UN does say, their Occupation is ILLEGAL.
Jewish Groups No War For Israel Supports
www.netureikarta.org
www.nkusa.org
www.jewsagainstzionism.com www.jewsnotzionists.org
Differiate the evil Isreal from Jewish people.
Read what the Jews say and really think about Isreal, and even read why some Jews support the actions by Hamas.
Is this Jihad? Or is this survival against pure Evil, thats all I can describe it as.
http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=81578
WMD used BY ISREAL against Palestinians!
http://www.aljazeerah.us/Opinion%20editorials/2003%20Opinion%20Editorials/March%202003%20op%20eds/Aljazeerah%20Opinion%20Editorials,%20March%205,%202003/Zionist%20war%20crimes%20exposed%20in%20video,%20by%20Mark%20Franklin,%20op%20eds.htm
SEE Real brutal killing Isreal maching in action above with a video
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/vnn/showEssay.asp?essayID=1162
More Isreal WMD attacks/planning information...
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=22&art_id=vn20030318110429520C458242&set_id=1
More blood on Isreal hands
Go here, http://www.nowarforisrael.com/ for the TRUE picture and so called "jihad" as this website puts it...
Hey Interested:
The Tracate you sited is from the Talmud not the Torah. It is an extrabiblical writing that may have been written 1000 thousand years ago or more. The conditions on the ground in the middle 20th century were a lot different than when it was written.
In a clear concise manner please answer the following question without going off the deep end:
Why do the Palestinians not want the Israelis to leave the Gaza without a fight? They are handing it to them--what gives?
By the way, there are more Americans who hate the U.S. than Israelis/Jews who hate Israel. I'm sure they express their hateful opinions in comfortable homes, nice coffee shops, and universities all over this horrible country.
Peace
OUR TAMPERED TORAH AND OUR DIRTY TALMUD HAVE CAUSED EVIL AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD, WHAT CAN THE POOR PALISTINIANS DO DO DEFEND THEMSELFS
More palestinians have died at the hands of the Islaimists who totally reject the right of israel to exist in ANY form, than at the hands of The IDF.
The palestinians are themselves hated by the rest of the Arab world who see them as low class and expendable in the war against the intruders on the Holy land of Islam.
The "plight" of the palestinians is the direct result of the policies of Al Huseini the mufti of jerusalem appointed by the British and carriied on by Arafat after his death.
Without these monsters the pals would have had a country long ago,
THe only state the pals will get is what israel and the US give them.
because under Hamas and the PlO they will only get death.
They will be eternally used as canon fodder for the vile aspirations of Islam.
Firstly to Natham.... I post links to backup what I say, unlike you who just trolls the site spewing racial hatred.
You say a lot of myths, lies, about Islam with no evidence.
Whereas, all My arguments are backed up with stats, proof, and even logic.
"Why do the Palestinians not want the Israelis to leave the Gaza without a fight? They are handing it to them--what gives?"
Lets start with an example:
93' Rabin so called Withdrawel from Gaza, he left all of the settlements intact, increased their territory and built a heavy fence around the areas left for the Palestinians.
But even if he does.... Sharon in the same interview said:
"to expand the big settlement blocks in the West Bank"
This is done by fencing Palestianians in, literally putting them in big prison cells!
Since the announcement, there have been murderous, brutal Israeli attacks on Palestinians in Gaza (12 February, 8 March and 17-21 March 2004 etc etc etc), so vicious that I just can not decribe them on this site.
This is a long argument, but read what Victoria Brittain of www.gcmhp.net said, and many others (literally 1000's)
Also some interesting reading, facts where I based my argument:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3632083.stm
Other interesting facts:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0%2C2763%2C1203899%2C00.html
Due to his recent ban, It is my opinion that our 'friend' "Hood Jihadi" has re-invented himself and come back online under the guise of "Bin Shiba". -Seen as their ludicrous, low intellect rants are pretty much identical.