He was saying it plainly years ago
This is what I have been saying all along. From William Webb:
It's A Religious War, StupidThe 9/11 committee revelations have painted a picture of two separate aministrations--each consumed with chasing votes, favorable public opinion and intransigent ideology rather than focusing on a group of maniacal Islamists furthering Mohammed's jihad that has continued since the 620s.
To save you the math, that's between 1375 and 1384 years of warfare directed at members of other religions.
And what would any rational person with an IQ above room temperature call a continuation of a religiously-inspired struggle that has lasted almost 14 centuries?
Call me insensitive, but I'd call it a religious war.
But of course in America's land of political correctness members of the past two administrations and the current Democratic candidate for president can't bring themselves to admit what any person can read straight from the al Qaida manual: The manual clearly states, "the confrontation that we are calling for with the apostate regimes does not know Socratic debates, Platonic ideals, nor Aristolean diplomacy. But it knows the dialogue of bullets, the ideals of assassination, bombing and destruction, and the diplomacy of the machine gun.
"Islamic governments have never and will never be established through peaceful solutions and cooperative councils. They are established as they always have been by pen and gun, by word and bullet, by tongue and teeth."
On a subsequent page the manual's author writes, "an Islamic government will never be established except by the bomb and the rifle. Islam does not coincide or make a truce with unbelief, but rather confronts it."
None other than Ayatollah Khomeini warned: "The governments of the world should know that Islam cannot be defeated. Islam will be victorious in all the countries of the world, and Islam and the teachings of the Koran will prevail all over the world."
Muslims seem to understand this is a religious struggle--why can't our politicians?
Sheikh Ali bin Khdheir Al-Khdheir, one of the three radical Saudi sheiks who now reside in jail, posts his fatwas on the Internet. He presented his fatwas concerning September 11 as a response for his students in Yemen according to an article in Al Watan: "The weeping, the sorrow, and the pain over the American victims among those termed 'innocent' are strange. Those victims were...unbelieving Americans who must not be sorrowed over, because the unbelieving American is considered a combatant due to his connection to his government, or because he supports it with money or opinion or counsel, as is customary in their political regime, may Allah not multiply such regimes. It is permissible to kill the combatants among them, as well as those who are non-combatants, for example the aged man, the blind man, and the dhimmi, as the
clerics agree."In other words, all is fair as long as the violence is directed at non-Muslims.
If these comments and opinions were truly on the fringe--one could understand the recalcitrance of politicians to openly state the obvious. But the sad truth is that opinions like this are propagated every day worldwide.
It is time for Jews and Christians, Hindus And Buddhists and believers in all religions and non-believers in any religion to realize we all have a big target on our backs. For all the ecumenical jabbering coming from those who would like to gloss over the facts, the current terror war and religious insurgency faced by people of western civilizations is a religious-inspired war, a jihad that Muslims believe leads to a bloodbath far more graphic and horrible than anything from the Book of Revelation.
Islam does not mean peace--it means submission.
And there are growing numbers of Muslims worldwide who plan for you to submit--peacefully or by force.
It is time for the politicians to face the facts and own up to the unpleasant reality that we are facing a continuation of a jihad that will continue throughout our lifetimes.
This is a religious war and until we can admit it as a society and deal with the associated unpleasantness of being labeled as divisive and Islamophobic for questioning the growing din of voices calling for open warfare against all non-Muslims, we face eventual conquest.
People in the West, particularly in the United States, Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany, Spain, and Russia must decide whether their basic beliefs concerning government, culture, and civilization are worth preserving. And take steps to educate and expose the threats.
We are all soldiers now whether we like it or not.
It's time for this year's political candidates to admit it as well.
Truley sickening
Letters to the Editor
April 01, 2004
Carey's views of Muslim society
From Mr R. F. Cooper
Sir, Having read your report of Muslim leaders’ responses to the speech by Lord Carey of Clifton (March 27), I believe that it is becoming more and more difficult to express certain views because those who disagree will make accusations of prejudice and bigotry.
This is exacerbated by the way in which such comments are reported. The full text of Lord Carey’s speech is balanced. It is factually accurate and certainly not an attack on Islam. Lord Carey wants us to look forward to the day when Islam and Christianity converge
in a common desire to create a world of tolerance and peace and building communities on those shared values that make us human and capable of giving and receiving God’s gift of love.
Most Christians would identify with that. They will however find it more difficult when they read your reported comments made by various Islamic leaders, who appear to have chosen to highlight certain of Lord Carey’s remarks out of context. The report makes out some of the responses to his address to be bigoted and “Christianophobic” and indeed a denial of free speech. Comments like those do nothing to help inter-faith dialogue.
Lord Carey’s speech is a timely reminder that Muslims in the West have freedom to build their mosques and worship, but that in some Muslim lands Christians have little freedom, are sometimes persecuted, and are not able to build their churches, and he asks that that freedom should be reciprocated.
If Islamic leaders are keen to see dialogue then they should be doing all they can to make sure that other religions in Islamic countries have the same freedoms of worship and expression that they themselves enjoy here.
Yours faithfully,
R. F. COOPER,
7 Laidlaw Close,
Poole, Dorset BH12 5EW.
March 27.
From Dr Jeremy Henzell-Thomas
Sir, I was saddened by Lord Carey’s recent bout of Muslim-bashing.
I was taught at school that the year 1492, when Columbus discovered America, was the beginning of the modern era. What I was not told was that this was also the date of the fall of Granada to the Catholic monarchs and the end of one of the most refined civilisations in the history of mankind, when Jews, Christians and Muslims had co-existed peacefully under Muslim rule in Andalusia for 700 years.
The “modern” era begins with the expulsion or forced conversion of Jews and Muslims from Catholic Spain, the genocide of native peoples in the New World, and Western hegemony based on conquest, cultural domination and racial intolerance.
Lord Carey criticises negative aspects of Islamic culture. Few would argue with his right to do that, but he should also be criticising the failures of the “modern” Western perspective.
How sad that instead of spiritual wisdom the Church offers us an exhortation to bend the knee to the ingenuity of modern man. Perhaps that is why our churches are virtually empty.
Yours sincerely,
JEREMY HENZELL-THOMAS
(Chair, FAIR — Forum Against Islamophobia and Racism, 2000),
The Grange,
Church Road, Bitton,
Bristol BS30 6LJ.
jeremyhthomas@aol.com
March 29.
Who am I supposed to believe, some writer named Webb, or Our President? President Bush said "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance".
The President said it, I believe it, and that settles it.
Bravo, calling the war a religious war is correct. this is nothing more then the domminance of islam over the world by fear,death,hate and distruction. The people of the christian and jewish fath should take note that the religious war of the century has started. As for president Bush, he to has been take in by the sweet,loveing, careing, tenderness of the islam muslim; he to sees the light, but makes no public announcement of it for fear of a truely truely terrific religious war.
For once, I have no comment- I really can't add anything to Webb's monograph.
Bush in 04: you forgot the /sarcasm.
in the realm of comparative eschatology, i find the following parallel potentially significant:
"The governments of the world should know that Islam cannot be defeated. Islam will be victorious in all the countries of the world, and Islam and the teachings of the Koran will prevail all over the world." --Ayatollah Khomeini
"And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea." --Revelation 20:7-8
Add my voice to those that have been proclaiming this to be a religious war all along with mixed results. Either relief that the someone else is finally characterizing the struggle as it really is, or a recoil in horror or disgust at my "obvious bias and hate talk." Although I am vindicated, it saddens me to be proved right.
I hope that Bush was just being "politically correct" in his speech. He has to be the President for all Americans. We welcome all Americans that will stand up to protect this country from any threat, that includes Muslims; but I wonder on which side they will utlimately fight. I fear it will not be with us.