Bravo, Armitage
One of the main things that makes the global jihad network morally reprehensible is that it targets civilians — chiefly in Israel but also all over the world. It justifies the attacks by a provision of Islamic law that prohibits the killing of women and children "unless they are fighting against the Muslims" ('Umdat al-Salik o9.10, cf. al-Mawardi, al-Akham as-Sultaniyyah, 4.2). This has been interpreted as allowing civilians to be killed if they are somehow aiding the war effort — hence the common assertion that "there are no civilians in Israel."
Aware of this and media-savvy as ever, the jihadis and their allies have tried to make much of the U.S. forces supposedly targeting civilians in Iraq. And the mujahedin themselves have used women and children as shields to try to make sure the U.S. would target civilians — the easier to discredit American claims of the moral high ground. And of course the Kerryite Left, following their leader's example of hysterical claims of American soldiers running amok in Vietnam, piles on happily.
But in an interview with Iraq Coalition and Pan-Arab print reporters, Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage was having none of it, and spoke with rare and refreshing candor. From the State Department website, with thanks to Ruth King:
QUESTION: One follow-up, sir, very quickly --DEPUTY SECRETARY ARMITAGE: Sure.
QUESTION: -- about human rights in Iraq. There have been civilian casualties, women and children, in Fallujah. How can you promote democracy in the Middle East when you're sending out a message that it's okay to shoot at children and --
DEPUTY SECRETARY ARMITAGE: Oh, stop. Stop. Shame on you. I hope you were screaming about human rights during the time of Saddam Hussein. I didn't hear many in the region.
We are the most humane military in the world. We punish our people when they exceed bounds, and we do it transparently. We regret every single civilian life which is lost, and we do our utmost, even putting our soldiers at risk, to prevent those.
It is true that there are civilian casualties and it is true that these scenes are shown over and over, particularly on our Arab friends' television networks. Now we spend enormous amounts of time and put our soldiers and Marines at risk in order to try to prevent it.
War is dangerous and it is difficult times, but when you ask that question, I would hope that you'd reflect on your own writing over the past, say, 30 years and see what you've said about human rights in Iraq.
Thank you all very much.
No matter what the United States does, the press will invariably slant the reports against the US. Certainly the Arab media takes everything WAY out of context and even resorts to blatant fabrications. There is one story on Islamonline that states that American Marines are tossing candy in the courtyards in order to draw the children out in order to shoot them. Those kind of lies are so fantastic to be almost laughable, except for the fact that our dear brainwashed Muslims believe it heart and soul.
The question has to be asked, Why the false reporting and why the lack of incredulity by the Muslim readers of such tripe?
BECAUSE THEY HATE US AND WANT TO SEE US DEAD!!!
I'm drawing the broad inference that sotto voce, Mr. Armitage ended THAT q&a with, "f*** you, as*****". As well he should.
See my earlier post today re. the Western press. They are, for the most part, neither mentally nor academically qualified to report on our fight against islamofascism.
He did not go nearly far enough. I would like to see one, JUST ONE story on the evening news covering the human shield stuation. JUST ONE that shows the jihadists firing on our troops from a mosque. JUST ONE interviewing the 70+% of Iraqis that DON'T want to kill our troops! JUST ONE that is professional objective reporting of the situation on the ground.
Spencer:One of the main things that makes the global jihad network morally reprehensible is that it targets civilians — chiefly in Israel ...
Jihadi What is morally reprehensible is the arrogance shown by you to thousands of Iraqi civilians for comparing them to a dozen of American sponsored Jews in an occupied racist state. What sort of civilians guards road blocks, restaurant etc?
"What sort of civilians guards road blocks, restaurant etc?"
Why do you think the Israelis do that? For fun? Just to pick on Palestinians because they're mean?
Finally someone that is not affraid to speak the truth to the muslims. The truth will set you free hood, maybe you should think about joining your muslims brothers in the middle east and give us a break from your lies.
Different "Hood-boy" today, folks. This one has a more sophisticated vocabulary, and better syntax.
Hey, it's like shooting skeet- you never just know where the next one is coming from ;)
click on the u.s. state department web site on this story and ask the state department yourself why we are friends with islamic muslims such as saudi arabia. Ask them why the muslims continue to kill christians, jews, and other religious people if they are non-muslim, and the united states is doing nothing.
"What sort of civilians guards road blocks, restaurant etc?"
Heaven forbid the road or restaurant should be guarded when the bomber comes along. Bad guard, naughty guard. Kind of civilian are you?
Hood Jihadi, you're like that fly at the picnic, annoying and disruptive, but harmless. Just like your hero terrorists.....I bet you have posters of them thumbtacked on the wall of your room in the slum don't you.
You'd really be upset if you found out one of your great, great uncles had been Jewish, and that is a shame, bigot.
Hood Jihadi: Here from my favourite racist site:
Just like in Judaism, you yourselves are God. The only God in town is the alcoholic and illiterate US army recruits you see in the streets of Baghdad murdering babies: you give live and taketh away.
By the way, shame on you skinhead R Armitage. You are now so stupid you wonder why people will not let you kill less Iraqis than Saddam Hussein. Who do you think you are?
Our soldiers killed more than Saddam did? And the liberal press didn't notice 2 Million+ bodies in the streets? And not even the Arab news shows are finding 2 million+ bodies lying around? Geez, hood, give up on the conspiracy sites, they are rotting your brain.
Hey Hood Jihadi,
Did you ever notice that you speak out of both sides of your mouth. Not a racist comment just a fact.
Your comment says this is a racist sight, but then you spew racism all across my screen. You are the racist. We all no this. The old saying "Your actions speak louder than your words".
The fact is muslims also used human shields in Somalia.
P.S. You are not the heir or seed of Abraham.
P.S.S. There never was and is still not today a land of Palestine. (name a king, show me a constitution, show me the heritage,...does'nt exist). Your own fellow muslim brothers spit on and kick out the Palestinians.
P.S.S.S. Putting all racism aside, you are no better than the bottom on my shoe.
Alaska: Your comment says this is a racist sight, but then you spew racism all across my screen. You are the racist.
Comment: the appropriate word is site not "sight".
Hood Jihadi:Dear Miramax corrupted child of illiterate Alaskans. You are correct because the only man to tell who is racist can only be racist himself. I hope you take a note when you hear of "anti-Semitism". After all, you are "just" and "fair" aren't you? Jews have no love for the other side. Why should I?
Unlike Jews, I have many friends of different colours although they are not infidels. How can I be racist?
Everybody is ducking away from the baby killing US army question. Did Iraqis called upon you to kill them in their thousands?
Everybody is ducking away from the baby killing US army question. Did Iraqis called upon you to kill them in their thousands?
Posted by Hood Jihadi at April 20, 2004 09:34 PM
Kinda difficult not to hurt innocent people when the enema....I mean enemy, are too cowardly to fight like men, and would rather hide behind the skirts of what they fear most in life....women.
Hoodjob: you should stop being such a hater and work on joining the civilized 21st century.
Your comments are ultimately ridiculous and racist. Cheap entertainment you are. I'm sure you love the unified jumping, yelling, rock throwing baboon like behavior of the Palestinians, but from what I understand, and I may be mistaken, the Palestinians were nothing more than a band of nomads that actually have no claim to any land whatsoever.
Just what I heard, and I may have heard wrong. However, if it's true, aren't these Arabian rock throwers out of line with their claims to any real estate at all? The problem is that Islamists like this simply refuse to co-exist with anyone else. Big question is......who do you think you are? Something special?
The Islamo-fascists burn to draw the Allies in Iraq into the nastiness of urban guerrilla warfare, where their disadvantages in combating a modern military would be much reduced.
They look to Jenin (in "Palestine") in 2002, where they prepared the inhabitants' houses and shops in the "refugee"-camp with an evil slew of booby-traps, mines, pit-falls, blind-alleys, choke-points, ambush-sites, enfilades of fire, sniper-posts, ammo and supply caches, etc, and seized civilian hostages to use as human shields, fortifying mosques, hospitals and schools as their bases of operation.
Aware that the IDF wouldn't carpet-bomb the place and that the humane tactics it'd employ in its incursions would put Israeli soldiers in peril, ahead of Arab women and children, the joint PLO-Hamas-Jihad Islami-Hezbollah Command was able to stage a battle which - though they lost it badly in military terms - they can (and do) continue claiming it was no less than an "atrocity and war-crime by Israel", a "massacre" of "at least 500 poor Palestinians". (In fact, 54 Arabs were killed there, at least 37 of whom were identified as armed combatants.)
The Coalition in Iraq ought never to let itself be sucked into this snare - especially when a better alternative exists.
Yes, it's the judicious application of the new-generation mini-nukes ("nice nukes"), not only subjecting the Islamo-fascists to the sanitizing white heat of fission, but serving as a good example to their accessories elsewhere, while generally dispelling the rabid Arabs' and Moslem's illusion that the US is "soft" and hence vulnerable.
Hood Jihadi= a voice crying in the wilderness...saying "SPANK ME"
Anyone that claims that allah is satan is just ignorant or hasn´t read a word in the koran.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY
eyjo click on my name
Eyjo said:
[Jesus preached islam, wich means obidience to god. READ THE KORAN I am not a muslim or a jew or christian or anything, But I deeply respect Islam as a religeon of peace and i deeply respect jesus for his message of peace. ]
Well if the Koran is so great then become a muslim. A common tactic of muslims is to say they are not muslim on message boards, but to tell others of how great it is. Look the Quran is a confused jumble of rehashed bible stories. If God wrote it then he has the writing ability of a grammer school kid. God spends most of his time pandering to Mohammad or damning people. Islam isn't so much a religion as it is a cult of personality for Mohammad.
As for the civilian casualties, when the vermin fight in a city, dressed as civilians, and amoung civilians what do you expect? Oh, civilian casualies to show on al-jazeera! I guess that explains that.
Gee, and I thought it was anti-Semitism that makes them spew the same lies against us in Israel. The latest is a children's program on television telling their children that we put children in ovens! Of course this was broadcast at the time of Holocaust Remembrance Day. Lying is just a reflex action with them. They'd even lie to their grandmother. We not only have to take what they say with a grain of salt - but with the whole damn salt shaker!
Hoodie
" Christianity has never been strong in Nigeria"
Oh, is that right Hoodie? You really should stop listening to what your Imams keep telling you.
Maybe I'll have to refresh your memory regarding what God's doing in Nigeria by showing you this again.
That Hoodie is just ONE ministry. Go in to their site. Read the results.
Regards,
kc
Did you notice the JOYOUS sound Hoodie?
Do you here that in Islam?
Oh no! I forgot.
Music and singing are of the devil.
The Qur'an - Sura 31:6
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-Fire)."
Footnote;
Ibn Masood (ra) said about this verse "I swear by the One other than Whom there is no God that it refers to singing [ghinaa].", and he repeated this three times. Ibn Abbaas (ra) said it refered to 'singing and the like' while Jaabir (ra) is reported to view its meaning to signify singing and listening to songs. Many taabi'oon such as Mujaahid, Ikrimah, Mak-hool and Umar ibn Shu'ayb viewed it as a censure of music and song.
Is their anything joyful about Islam?
kc(e):
Is this Qur'anic excerpt electronic? If so, what is the URL, pls.
Thx.
Before the Evil White Man put the Black man in slavery - the various tribes - black - in Africa would take prisoners of war and make them slaves - Black to Black slavery! Plus do not forget that the Arab Traders (Muslims) had an extensive slave trade as well - so when Blacks take Islam as their religion, they are taking on the relision of their slave masters!
jihan
Earl;
Send me a msg, and I'll e-mail you the info.
Thanks.
kc
Let's repeat this every time Hoodie shows his head.
Hoodie said:
"Jews have no love for the other side. Why should I?
Unlike Jews, I have many friends of different colours although they are not infidels. How can I be racist?"
In these few short sentences, he shows the psycopathy of all racists.
Hoodie baits and we bite. These silly men have nothing of substance to say. (Didn't you notice the quick improvement in vocabulary, syntax, and even thought pattern.)
Why bother with them at all?
Hood Jihadi..you state that "Jews have no love for the other side"
How do you know that? Do you personally know any Jews? Have you ever BEEN to Israel?
I have...and as a Christian I spoke with Jews and Muslims there.
Ever single Jew said the same thing. We dont care if they come here to work..our economy is better and our uneployment is better..but for every 20 who come one comes with a bomb" We don't want to die.
The Muslims said..The Jews are dogs and deserve to die. Every bad thing that happens has a Jew behind it... even 911..thats right they blamed 911 on the Jews.
I see Jews defending and protecting themselves against a people who will not embrace piece under any conditions.
Im sorry for you Hood...you'll waste your entire life hating people for no reason other than a religion. And, if we believe in God ....I choose to believe in a God of forgivness and love not hatred and murder. You need to read the New Testament...
Hood Jihadi..you state that "Jews have no love for the other side"
How do you know that? Do you personally know any Jews? Have you ever BEEN to Israel?
I have...and as a Christian I spoke with Jews and Muslims there.
Ever single Jew said the same thing. We dont care if they come here to work..our economy is better and our uneployment is better..but for every 20 who come one comes with a bomb" We don't want to die.
The Muslims said..The Jews are dogs and deserve to die. Every bad thing that happens has a Jew behind it... even 911..thats right they blamed 911 on the Jews.
I see Jews defending and protecting themselves against a people who will not embrace piece under any conditions.
Im sorry for you Hood...you'll waste your entire life hating people for no reason other than a religion. And, if we believe in God ....I choose to believe in a God of forgivness and love not hatred and murder. You need to read the New Testament...
eyjo said: "anyone that glorifies violence or evil behaviour is not a true muslim!"
according to this statement, anyone associated with al qaeda, hezbollah, hamas, jemaah islamiyah, islamic jihad, and all others on the state department's list of terrorist organizations is an apostate. therefore, everyone should know what these people's reward shall be in the judgment day.
i subscribe to the stand that since we have had no proof of life from bin laden for well over a year, he is dead, incapacitated, or a coward. i guess now we can add false prophet to the list.
btw, message to richard armitage: go get 'em, my man! give 'em hell!
Blacks are considered a slave race by Wahabi muslims. I would like to add that since muslims think that dying for the moon god will get them into paradise with 72 virgins, we can help. The Air Force delivers.
As a Christian very familiar with the Bible as I teach it in Sunday School, your islamic reference to a man being stoned because he gathered wood on the sabbat, and you said it was a lesson saying "he that is without sin cast the first stone' Mohammed or you edited or changed the scripture of that story. The reference of "he that is without sin, cast the first stone was from the words of Jesus when Mary Magdeline was caught in the act of adultery and she was getting ready to be stoned. then Jesus said those words. I have found so many times that Mohammed changed the Holy Books of Jews and Christians to somehow politically advance himself. If prophets were to be 100% correct since they were from God, then why did Mohammed say the world was flat (and no Koran believing muslims will say its not, although science has proved otherwise) why did Mohammed say Christians prayed facing Jerusalem? Or that he observed that most people in hell were women? Cannot an average intelligent person see how politically charged this is? Mohammed also said a woman could carry a baby in the womb for up to five years. That statement was the only reason a woman recently was not stoned under islamic law for having a baby out of wedlock.She was nursing an infant.Islam makes children orphans. Islam cuts off arms for stealing which forces the person to steal again as he can't work for an honest living with one arm.There is no peace in islam unless you convert to Islam. I see no tolerance. I see attacks all over the world from those quoting the Quoran, killing in the most brutal ways. God is put on the level of a pimp by muslims who believe he would reward a man with sexually deflowering virgins in paradise just to kills jews or christians.Mohammed advanced his politics by the sword. God does not tell His children He will reward them by killing themselves and blowing up infants and toddlers. Since Islam was the new kid on the block, I would certainly question the logic and spirituality of Mohammed's teachings. The devil exists too. The devil wants destruction, suicide and murder. Islam needs a reformation in the worst way, or it will continue to incite terror and murder all over the world.
A neat summary, Grace.
The only revision to your comments would be to substitute "kufrs (infidels)" for "...just to kills jews or christians.
"We are the most humane military in the world"
WTF?! A military is not supposed to be humane. It is supposed to kill people. If you don't want to kill people then don't use the military for political goals. You don't liberate people by killing them. You kill them by killing them. Humane military hee hee. What a joke.
I never thought I'd say this but you Muslims and Christians are so full of hate. You're never going to get to heaven with that kinda talk. Then again since looking for God is like a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that's not there, who gives a crap. So fuck it why don't you all kill each other.