Abu Hamza
A few choice quotes from Abu Hamza al-Masri, the British radical Muslim leader. He seems to be calling for suicide attacks in Britain. From the Evening Standard:
Suicide bombingsHamza says it is his followers' destiny to become "shaheed" (martyrs) and bring jihad (holy war) to "your own door".
"We ask Allah to make us mujahideen (holy warriors). We ask Allah to make us shaheed. Our immediate duty now is to correct our own homeland. So let us open our eyes, let us not go for jihad which is far away from our countries.
"Although it is good it is not as good as you do in your own door. You don't have to travel thousands and thousands of miles to become a shaheed - you can be shaheed right on your own doorstep. May Allah open our eyes for what's good for us - so we don't waste our Muslim blood far away."
Forging passports "I don't have papers ... you're all clever, you can make papers for yourself. This is also a part of jihad, this is part of the preparation."
On world domination
"The real weapons of mass destruction are the desire for martyrdom. Millions of you are ready to be shaheed. Half a million martyrdom shaheed is enough for Muslims to control the whole of earth forever. In the end of the day, Islam must control earth, whether we like it or not."
"All the Israelis are fighters. That's why anybody over 15 is a warrior and he should be killed
... It's about exposing these Zionist Jews who are now
On Israel doing the work of Hitler against ourselves and the nation."
On September 11
"Wherever you are, death will catch up with you - even if you are in high elevated safe towers.
"Where is their Superman? Who is to blame? The American government and their pressure cooker policy which exploded in their faces."
He adds later: "These scenes are going to repeat."
This is nothing less than sedition; whether it constitutes a statutory offence is unclear to me on this side of the pond.
Any of our Brit posters have any thoughts? Why is this incitement to violence not summarily dealt with by the UK authorities?
If only the militants would take their anger out on their doors instead of on people.
Why has this guy not yet been arrested or deported? Threats of death go unpunished?
"Where is their Superman?"
Are the Islamists incapable of telling fiction from reality?
RC:
It is more narrowly a character trait of the Arabs, as examined by both David Pryce-Jones and Bernard Lewis (as no doubt others have done). Westerners whose education is founded on post-Enlightenment principles have an almost impossible task in attempting to comprehend the fantacist, fatalistic mindset that has permeated Arab thinking over the centuries.
"Any of our Brit posters have any thoughts? Why is this incitement to violence not summarily dealt with by the UK authorities?"
Posted by Earl at April 27, 2004 08:16 AM
Hi Earl,
The very reason all these quotes are surfacing at this time is because these are the very ones the British govt. are currently using as evidence against Hamza in the courts at the moment, in the preliminary hearings of his deportation case. (The 'actual' trial I heard last night on the news will be in January)
Expect more to surface over the next few days.
regards,
kc.
Reading up on Abu Hamza, I saw the tidbit about terrorists training camps in Bosnia. Amazing, isn't it, are we not still in Bosnia to protect the Muslims of the area? Also, were we not spoon fed the information that the Muslims in that part of the world had not interest in radical Islam?
Is that the coffee I smell?
It is time to show these Islamo-thugs the door - either the door out of the country or the door into prison...this is treason/sedition! There are laws which are being broken daily by such rants.
jihan
I'll tell you what's going to happen in the US and Europe if another Islamic attack occurs.
Across towns and cities both big and small, for months if not years, average people on their way to work will pass by yet another Muslim who somehow mysteriously hanged himself from a lamp post during the night. And nobody will have seen nor heard anything at all.
I guess there'll have to be a commission set up to try to figure out why Muslims all of a sudden started hanging themselves.
I'll tell you what's going to happen in the US and Europe if another Islamic attack occurs.
Across towns and cities both big and small, for months if not years, average people on their way to work will pass by yet another Muslim who somehow mysteriously hanged himself from a lamp post during the night. And nobody will have seen nor heard anything at all.
I guess there'll have to be a commission set up to try to figure out why Muslims all of a sudden started hanging themselves.
That is doubtful Mr. Al-Dajjal. You are insinuating (if I have the tenor of your message correct) that these people will by lynched by the other side, and have it passed off as if they were committing suicide. Why should the Western nations bother with doing that when they can deport them? We do not need to stoop to such tactics as you intimate.
Human nature being what it is, the modern Muslim unfortunately will become the "pig" of western civilization. I do anticipate the reemergence of racial profiling. It will be impossible for these people to have the same rights as everyone else. Civil war? No. But I agree that mysteriously street gangs will turn their wrath on the Islamoscum, and i will bet that authorities will look the other way often. Too bad that it comes to this, but why go to war with an 8th centurt foe brandishing the saber demonstratively and shouting jihad? Like Indy Jones, just shoot them.
Looks like they are pulling this shiite in Germany also. Seen several handbills/ posters in Heidelberg today calling for jihad against Germany, the US and the West.
Enoch Powell was a political force in Britain not so long ago, certainly within my young adulthood.
The trouble for the islamists is that they have no understanding of the host country's history. Powell and his fascist sympathizers (make no mistake, their successors are out there) will have no trouble reconstituting themselves in the event of another islamist outrage.
Nocturnal lynchings? I'd guess worse...
It's amazing how many people already write Europe off as Eurabia. Very soon the silent majority of Europeans will galvanize together to meet the islamic threat. It's only a matter of time.
Deportations of criminal muslims will bring charges of racism, etc . This will allow Europeans to do a reality check, realize the mind game that the islamic fascists are playing, and 'get over it'. At that point there will probably be a measure of civil conflict as native Europeans aggressively move to counter the growing islamic influence. This will bring terrorism home to Europe on a grand scale. And this in turn will lead to the eventual expuslion of all islamic ideologues. This scenario is bloody, dangerous and violent. But it seems inevitable unless Europe simply rolls over and becomes Eurabia. That will never happen.
Europe is slow to respond because it has two world wars under its belt. It does not want any more violence. Yet, Europe will never accept muslim rule or even muslim parity.
At some point a true United Europe will become a reality due to the threat of Islamic expansion. It is this enemy that will bring about the real European Union, and it will be forged in war. That union will be real and lasting.
Europeans will ask themselves collectively "who are we?" 'What is our culture, our mission, our history?" The vision of a United Europe will galvanize the continent to meet the islamic invader. Europeans will suddenly realize this collectively and then implement it with a vengeance. No one will be allowed to remain in Europe who actively works against the native culture. There will be many hard choices, especially in the realm of economics, but the spectre of a Europe in dhimmitude to Mecca will become the overriding motivation to put an end to this menace. Europe will awake from its passivity and once more meet the islamic challenge. Europe will once again realize its natural allegiance with the USA. A pivotal moment in history.
Mike H
move to counter the growing
You said: Europe will awake from its passivity and once more meet the islamic challenge.
When? When the Islamofacists have Vienna surrounded again? That battle was just barely won? And I mean 'just barely!'..
Are the myopic, masochistic Europeans condemning themselves to a future conflagration between Islamo-fascism and neo-Nazism?
If so, I must repeat my sentiments during the 1980 - 88 Iran-Iraq war: "I wish both sides total victory".
Hook---You human sacrifice specialist you!!!!!
actually we already saw what europeans are capable of when they want to solve this problem once and for all, remember the balkan wars? sadly the west had to bomb the christians into submission, well now the west can deal with them because the east is virtually free of them, its not a safe place to migrate is it
Can someone please clarify for me the Serb/Bosnian conflict and what Mr. Milosovic was trying to accomplish, now that we have a new perspective on things?
I remember at the time, I argued that the Muslims were the aggressors...
But I confess that the entire thing is vague to me now.
Thanks