US Says Iraq Guerrillas Fired from Fallujah Mosque

Anything to incite friction I guess: This was just pulled from (CAIR's website). These American loving Muslims (UH HUH) will post something like this in a subtle fashion to inform any Muslim dumb enough to follow them, making sure they mention that women and children were killed.

American Muslim News Briefs
Tuesday, April 06, 2004
26 Iraqis die in U.S. strike on Fallujah

U.S. warplanes firing rockets destroyed four houses in the besieged city of Fallujah late Tuesday, witnesses said. A doctor said 26 Iraqis, including women and children, were killed and 30 wounded in the strike.

U.S. Marines have been battling Iraqi guerrillas since Monday in a siege aimed at putting down Iraqi guerrillas in Fallujah, one of their main strongholds…

Also posted on Dhimmi Watch
Posted by: D.C. Watson at April 7, 2004 04:09 PM

As in the past when an area was occupied by a victor the rules were enforced with curfues and limits of egress . The people of this nation(Iraq) are not our friends and never will be , due to the fact that our religeous docturns both teach intollerance toward the other as they are infidels respectively . It's time the world woke up and started behaving like mature people that can understand the fact that we are all individuals who have the right to think or feel anyway we please as long as we respect one anothers right to do the same . As far as war is concerned , once it has started it must be brought to a conclusion as soon as possible but in the case of Iraq it is my opinion that we should pull out and let these people fight their own way into the modern world without the help of we who have decided to live in accordance of the rights of the individual. The U.S. and it's allies should get out and and receive as reparations , oil til the debt is paid . Above all , the tolleration of terrorism cannot be selective as it is with Palistine ,Libya , Iran and others . If anyone participates in any way in an act of this nature , they should be excluded from participating in world trade or any other matters that affect mankind for they are a desease and as such , should be treated as an outcast by the rest of the world . We have treated terrorists as people for too long and it's time we smelled the roses . When caught or raise their heads they should be eliminated emediately ,Arafat and his replacement should be the first to go for they both live by the terrorist creed and believe in baby killing !!

Too bad. Too bad they couldn't have waited until they were in Friday prayers, they could have gotten a lot more of 'em. Die Muslim dogs, die!

Well, i guess there is not much left to say; the comments listed are the truth and tell who americans have has just about enough of muslims and islam.

Too bad. Too bad they couldn't have waited until they were in Friday prayers, they could have gotten a lot more of 'em. Die Muslim dogs, die!

Hood Jihadi: Hal spoke of the intensions many Muslims suspected when Americans used Jewish Intelligence to justify a war against the Iraqi people after subjugating them with starvation and amongst other things.

Its about time Muslims woke up to the Nazis the Peterists are made of, and get out of the UN for a start - infidels finance it and it serves infidel interests only.

Quran, Chapter 3
118. O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

HJ said: "...justify a war against the Iraqi people after subjugating them with starvation and amongst other things." (Leave out the "and" it makes your sentence more coherent.)
HJ, sorry to see the truth hasn't gotten through to you, but since you believe the lies of the koran it makes sense you'd swallow the party line on "starving the poor Iraqi children". Saddam traded his peoples medicines, drugs, etc. so he could build up his army and 23 palaces for himself during the period the UN had him under wraps. It was their Muslim ruler that starved his people, just as it was Saddam who tortured and murdered millions, including babies, women, whole families. I'm sick of Muslims killing Christians and Jews and then yelling "foul" when some of their own get killed while committing jihad. After seeing Muslims celebrate the attacks of 9-11, I no longer feel sorry for the Palestinians or any other Muslims who get what they deserve. Their conduct has brought this on themselves. "Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind." BTW you never answered my other post on the failure of Islam to contribute anything of significance to modern society, or on the errors in the koran. I'm still waiting.

The bomb was 5000 lb. I am sure many here wish it was nuclear instead.

Hood, you said A Greek philosopher once said:
Hmmm only 5000 lb? Sounds like they went easy on them to me.

"If you want man to hate you, tell him the truth"

Is that why Muslims hate the bible, because it exposes the fact that the koran is a lie? That Jesus died on the cross, and was resurrected? That Mohammed is not a prophet because he made no prophecies? That the koran contradicts the bible and sicence? That Islam has contributed nothing to modern society? That Islam still has slavery? Is that why they hate the bible and Christians and Jews, Hood Jihadi?

BTW, they have more mosques, we have more bombs ;-)

Well, let's see:

The mullahs are surrounded by armed men inside their mosques.

They call for war and attacks upon US troops.

They use mosques to store arms.

It's not a stretch to assume that they're using mosques as fire bases.

If that's the case, then the mosque is no longer a sanctuary.
And the mullahs that call for war are targets.

Is this a bump in the road or the beginning of a dangerous new phase?

Mike

Hal:BTW you never answered my other post on the failure of Islam to contribute anything of significance to modern society, or on the errors in the koran. I'm still waiting.

Hood Jihadi: Sorry, I am not a racist who counts the contributions whites or blacks make to the world. I am sure you will ban anything Muslim judging from your contributions in here. The only Muslims you like are dead ones don't you? Same goes to those dumbos who think Jews are superior because of some arms smuggler's prize award. Most of the Jewish winners owe a lot to their host nations and not to some Jewish education system like in "Israel". They tried to compare Finish children with Zionist kids back in 2003 and not surprisingly: Israeli children = dumbersteins.

Neither do I feel anything for a stupid who believes Zionist pictures from Palestinian ghettos in 1994 passed around as some act carried out by Arafat.

Errors in Koran like "raisins" or "adam". Sorry, but I speak Arabic and understand Koranic Arabic. The things you raised were only those written by illiterates or hackers at places like www.forward.com

Like my Allah says:
109:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
109:6 To you be your Way, and to me mine.

i think by saturday we will know if sadr's little uprising has any legs. i believe the 9th is a big religious day so it might be bloody... my bet though is the initial steam well have run out of the fighting by the weekend then again i might be wrong....

Hal: That Islam still has slavery
Hood Jihadi:Actually, one knows Islam is not a man made religion by the sacrifices believers did esp. in eradicating institutionalised slavery from ME. The Jews hated Islambecause they use to be the ones transporting slaves from Ethiopia to Arabia etc. The Christians hated Islam because without the Jews, their arms supply industry was brought to a halt.

Why do you always pick few cases of exploitations by Muslims, and lump it on Islam? Face facts my dear boy. You have no respect for the millions of Africans saved by Islam and are now rulers of Kuwait and Qatar. Compare them to them guys you still control in Haiti, Jamaica, or your Uncle Tom's like Powell.

However, people like you are already enslaved by ignorance. So you can hit the road!

"Hood Jihadi: Sorry, I am not a racist..."
LOL! Having read your past comments that's a good laugh! You have shown yourself to be extremely prejudiced, mainly against whites. You apparently have an inferiority complex also. Islam is a religion, not a race. It has Caucasians, Blacks, Orientals, so your race comment isn't applicable. You know that, you aren't that stupid, you just want to avoid the question. You know you can't answer my question honestly because you would have to admit the failure of Islam to contribute anything of value to society. No Einsteins, no Edisons, no one who matters. That's ok, we all know what the answer is anyway. We send technicians to Islamic countries to teach them how to work our high tech machines, they send kids to flip burgers and clean our toilets because they can't get a decent education in Islamic countries. The points I raised about Jesus are legitimate and not from any web site, which is why you can't find an Islamic web site that can counter them so you can copy and paste an answer. You have to read the bible and the koran both to address the issue intelligently and discuss it knowledgeably. The Islamic sites won't address the issues because they know the bible is right and the koran is wrong. As for the dead Muslims in the mosque, let me quote a little saying from our hood : "Don't start nothing and it won't be nothing." What did they think the Army was going to do to them while they holed up in a mosque, throw cookies at them? They should have known the job was dangerous when they took it. Prior to 9-11 I was sympathetic to the Palestinians. Then 9-11 happened and I read the koran and saw all the errors and lies in it. Now I don't care if they all blow themselves to hell.

But Islam is a religion of Peace...?

Did anyone notice that we have an imposter posing as Hood Jihadi tonight? Listen carefully to the words and ideas of this Hood Jihadi, not like the one from before.

Who are you really?

Hood:
I sympathize with the pain you feel in realizing that you are a brainwashed stooge, indoctrinated into a death cult.

HJ #2 - Yep, an imposter.

Hood Jihadi:"Actually, one knows Islam is not a man made religion.." Stop right there boy. "Everyone" who is not brain dead knows that Mohammed is no prophet because there is no prophecy in the Koran. If I'm wrong, I dare you to quote a sura that is prophetic. There are none. I've read it. He did not write the koran, therefore it is no miracle. He spoke it (koran means spoken or recited) and others wrote down what he said. Dictation is not a miracle. Thousands of "good Muslims" still practice slavery today in Sudan and other parts of Africa and the ME, but since the civilized world frowns upon slavery, they hide the facts with lies and taqiyyah..
"However, people like you are already enslaved by ignorance. So you can hit the road!" You are a coward and an idiot and afraid to address the issues raised here because you know you will look like a bigger fool than you already are. (Which would be hard to do BTW.) You are incapable of independent thought and can only copy and paste quotes from your book of lies to try and shore up your pathetic arguments. Who's typing for you tonight? I have a degree, I am old enough to be your grandfather little boy, and you can kiss my red white and blue ass. This is my country, I have served in the military and fought for the right of freedom of speech. I did not have to beg admittance here from some third world POS nation that would not take care of me and my family and let me get ahead, like you did. I am a free man, I will stay that way, and Islam, Mohammed and all your lies be damned.

Mr. Jihadi,
There is an I
that is ignorant,
an eye that is evil,
so beware, your desire
to be master you must master
or forever pay the price.
"The moving finger writes
and having writ, moves on
and neither piety nor wit
can bring it back
or change a word of it." Omar Khayyam

doorstop:I sympathize with the pain you feel in realizing that you are a brainwashed stooge, indoctrinated into a death cult.
Hood Jihadi: I was born into a Muslim family, and actually feel privileged to have Jihadi parents.

Hood Jihadi: Hal spoke of the intensions many Muslims suspected when Americans used Jewish Intelligence to justify a war against the Iraqi people after subjugating them with starvation and amongst other things.

If Arab people are starving, write a complaint letter, tie it to the leg of a pigeon, and send it to Hussein's jail cell, then to Arafat's compound, onward to a freezer where Huey and Dewey Hussein's dead carcasses are on ice. They're the ones that starve their people. Hoodie, the majority of people in the Arab world are peasants because of dictators like these, not because of the West.

Hoodie, may we please have the names of your Jihadi parents?

DC:Hoodie, may we please have the names of your Jihadi parents?

Hood Jihadi: Luckily they escaped out of America and are now enjoying life in Saudi Arabia - hehe.

Seriously , Y I always treat Muslims as one race is typically shown by the story bellow, but Mr Spencer will not want you to read:

Ten Years After Horror, Rwandans Turn to Islam
By MARC LACEY

Published: April 7, 2004
IGALI, Rwanda, April 6 — When 800,000 of their countrymen were killed in massacres that began 10 years ago this week, many Rwandans lost faith not only in their government but in their religion as well. Today, in what is still a predominantly Catholic country, Islam is the fastest growing religion.

Roman Catholicism has been the dominant faith in Rwanda for more than a century. But many people, disgusted by the role that some priests and nuns played in the killing frenzy, have shunned organized religion altogether, and many more have turned to Islam.(From Mohamed to Malcolm X, Islam is still yet to produce an uncle Tom like Powell - we are not followers!)

"People died in my old church, and the pastor helped the killers," said Yakobo Djuma Nzeyimana, 21, who became a Muslim in 1996. "I couldn't go back and pray there. I had to find something else."

Wearing a black prayer cap, Mr. Nzeyimana was one of nearly 2,000 worshipers at the Masdjid Al Fat'h last Friday. The crowd was so large that some Muslims set their prayer mats on the dirt outside the mosque and prayed in the midday heat.

The Muslim community now boasts so many converts that it has had to embark on a crash campaign to build new mosques to accommodate all of the faithful. About 500 mosques are scattered throughout Rwanda, about double the number that existed a decade ago.

Although no accurate census has been done, Muslims leaders in Rwanda estimate that they have about a million followers, or about 15 percent of the population. That, too, would represent a doubling of their numbers in the past 10 years.

Muslim leaders credit the gains to their ability during the 1994 massacres to shield most Muslims, and many other Rwandans, from certain death. "The Muslims handled themselves well in '94, and I wanted to be like them," said Alex Rutiririza, explaining why he converted to Islam last year.

With killing all around, he said, the safest place to be back then was in a Muslim neighborhood. Then as now, many of Rwanda's Muslims lived crowded together in the Biryogo neighborhood of Kigali.

During the mass killing of Tutsi, militias had the place surrounded, but Hutu Muslims did not cooperate with the Hutu killers. They said they felt far more connected through religion than through ethnicity, and Muslim Tutsi were spared.

"Nobody died in a mosque," said Ramadhani Rugema, executive secretary of the Muslim Association of Rwanda. "No Muslim wanted any other Muslim to die. We stood up to the militias. And we helped many non-Muslims get away."

Mr. Rugema, a Tutsi, said he owed his life to a Muslim stranger who hid him in his home when members of the Interahamwe militia were pursuing him.

Mr. Rugema said two imams had been arrested outside Kigali on charges of taking part in the massacre. But both were released within about two years for lack of evidence. "We are proud of how Islam emerged from the genocide," he said.

HoodJewhawdi said: "many more have turned to Islam.(From Mohamed to Malcolm X, Islam is still yet to produce an uncle Tom like Powell - we are not followers!)" The people in Africa who converted were given the choice of "submit or die". Forced conversion. Aids is spreading rapidly in Africa too. I don't hear you touting that as being good. You aren't followers? You are a perfect example of your own calumnies. You are incapable of independent thought. You can only blindly follow Mohammed and the lies in the koran, because you are commanded not to question but to submit. This is the main reason Islam has contributed nothing to the world. Even in this forum the best you can do is paste and copy mindless ramblings from the koran. You are unable to mount a rational defense of your beliefs because you have never really thought about why you believe what you do. You are scared to put your faith to the test. The best you can ever hope to be in your religion is a slave for allah, then maybe he will reward you with some sex. You think God is a pimp who runs a whorehouse in heaven for your enjoyment. You are afraid to read the bible for yourself and discover the truth. Bin laden often refers to himself as a slave to allah. Malcolm X was killed by followers of Elijah Mohammed. More Muslin On Muslim violence, just like when Mohammed's nephew was killed. Powell is educated, rich, erudite and powerful and he has class. Something You will never be and never have.

Well, we are made to not like each other even when Muslims saved lives like in Rwanda. So I say you are one irrational people and I am going to bed - good night.

The great slave scam

The Irish Times

23 February 2002

From Weekend: In Sudan, the slave trade continues - and Western charities have collected millions of dollars to free women and children enslaved in the north. But the high-profile redemption of thousands of slaves is often a corrupt racket. In a major investigation, Declan Walsh talks to witnesses of the sale of fake slaves by fake slave-traders.

The slave redemption makes for powerful human drama. A line of women and children emerges from the African bush. A slave trader in front, wrapped in the white robes of an Arab. And before them, waiting with a bag of money at his feet, is a white, Christian, man.

The procession halts under the shade of a tree. There is discussion, then money changes hands. Suddenly the trader gives a nod, the slaves walk free and there are cries of joy as families are re-united. Freedom, at last.

Who could fail to be stirred by this emotional sight? Thousands of black African southern Sudanese have been enslaved by vicious militiamen from the mainly Arab north. For the past seven years, Christian Solidarity International (CSI) has been buying back, or "redeeming" the slaves, for US$50 a head. The highly publicised redemptions have touched millions of hearts - and wallets - across the world but particularly in the US.

Celebrities and politicians have chained themselves to railings in protest. Pop stars have given free concerts. Little girls have given their lunch money. But there is another side to the redemption story.

According to aid workers, missionaries, and even the rebel movement that facilitates it, slave redemption in Sudan is often an elaborate scam. Some genuine slaves have been redeemed - nobody can say how many - but in other cases, the process is nothing more than a careful deceit, stage-managed by corrupt officials.

It seems like a noble cause. The Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) has been at war with the Khartoum government, an extremist Islamic regime, since 1983. The rebels control most of the south; government forces hold the north. In its prosecution of the war, the government - a notorious human-rights abuser - has revived slavery. Arab militiamen are encouraged to destabilise frontline rebel-held villages by looting, murdering and snatching women and children away to a life of slavery in the north.

To combat this terrible human trade, CSI arranges for Arab traders to buy the slaves and secretly walk them through the bush to safe villages in the rebel-held south. The CSI plane lands, the money is paid, and the slaves walk free. Or so it appears.

In reality, many of the "slaves" are fakes. Rebel officials round up local villagers to pose for the cameras. They recruit fake slavers - a light skinned soldier, or a passing trader - to "sell" them. The children are coached in stories of abduction and abuse for when the redeemer, or a journalist, asks questions. Interpreters may be instructed to twist their answers.

The money, however, is very real. CSI can spend more than $300,000 during a week of redemptions at various bush locations. After their plane takes off, the profits are divvied up - a small cut to the "slaves" and the "trader" but the lion's share to local administrators and SPLA figures. One commander is said to have earned enough from the profits of slavery to buy 40 wives. Other officials living in faraway Nairobi or Europe have allegedly built houses or financed businesses.

A well-intentioned endeavour has been subverted into Africa's greatest, and most lucrative, theatre performance.

English Baroness Caroline Cox, who sits in the House of Lords, was among the original redeemers, but the trade has been dominated by the Swiss-based CSI, which has bought the "freedom" of more than 64,000 slaves since 1995. It denies being duped.

"The money involved is well publicised," says John Eibner, the American who has been the driving force behind redemption. "But we have our own mechanisms in place to ensure there is no fraud." CSI is in the process of introducing fingerprinting and video-identification systems for redeemed slaves.

However, members of the SPLA, which plays a key role in every redemption trip, say otherwise.

"The racket is there, right from the top," admits official SPLA spokesman, Samson Kwaje. "The money comes from those American kids. But who gets the cheque?"

It's a question that few can answer with certainty. But what is sure is that the warning signs have been there for years. Within the SPLA, whispers of suspicion have swelled into a chorus of criticism in recent years. Acrimonious rows have broken out and accusations of profiteering levelled at individuals.

Outside the rebel ranks, aid workers have been puzzled. It seems almost incredible that tens of thousands of abducted civilians could cross a dangerous frontline undetected by government forces. Moreover, aid workers north of the line saw no evidence of large movements south, and their colleagues in the south saw no sudden demand for extra food or medicines by redeemed slaves.

Put simply, the numbers didn't add up. And yet no questions were asked. The dollars rolled in and the redemptions continued. The last one was in December.

That slavery exists in Sudan is not in doubt. Since time immemorial the southern Dinka pastoralists have fought with their Arab neighbours to the north. In battles over grazing land, warriors from both sides would raid cattle, women and children from each other. Later, some slaves could be returned, in exchange for an agreed number of cattle.

Organised slave raiding died out during the British colonial period but with the advent of war in 1983, it was deliberately revived by the Khartoum government in response to the SPLA insurgency. It armed the Murahaleen, a ruthless horseback Arab militia, and charged them with protecting a military train that cuts through rebel territory to the garrison town of Wau.

As the train advances at a snail's pace, the Murahaleen sweep wide into surrounding villages, killing men, torching houses and raping women. Their pay is whatever they find, be it animals, women or children. The slaves are driven north, where they live a miserable life of servitude, abuse and sometimes forced conversion to Islam.

Shocked by the re-emergence of this brutal practice, CSI threw its weight behind the redemption of southern slaves in the mid-1990s. Under Eibner, it arranged for northern "traders" to smuggle lines of slaves into SPLA territory. There, CSI would negotiate a price - usually $50, more recently $33 ­ for the unfortunate slaves. Scores of journalists were brought along to witness the exchange.

In the US, with its large black population and heritage of slavery, it touched a raw nerve. The campaign gripped the public imagination and hasn't let go since. From stockbrokers to schoolkids, millions of dollars have been raised for redemption. Slavery became a fundraising phenomenon, and Sudan is the most high-profile African cause in the US since apartheid.

But outside observers of redemption do not, and cannot, see everything. The entire operation is controlled by the SPLA, which provides communications, transport and interpreters, and it is conducted in great secrecy. CSI says this is necessary for security reasons - it fears the government will bomb it - but this makes it extremely difficult for outsiders to drop in unannounced on a redemption.

One exception is Father Mario Riva. An Italian missionary, Father Riva lived in Bahr el Ghazal, the frontline province where most of the fighting and slave redemption takes place, for more than 40 years. He retired two years ago. In the late 1990s, Father Riva stumbled across a CSI redemption between the towns of Marial Bai and Nyamlell. The Comboni father was like any other Western observer, but with one crucial difference - he knew the Dinka people, and their language, as his own.

John Eibner was standing under a tree with a group of slaves, some of whom Father Riva recognised as his own parishioners. "The people told me they hadbeen collected to get money. It was a kind of business," he recalls. A rebel official was translating between Eibner and the slaves. "The white man would ask one thing and they would translate something different to the people," he says.

For example, says Father Riva, Eibner would ask if a slave had been held in captivity. The official would translate the question as "have you suffered in the war?" The villager would emphatically reply in the positive. Then the translator would tell Eibner that the man had been abducted by Arabs, treated inhumanely and was grateful to CSI for saving his life.

However, Father Riva said nothing at the time, fearing retribution from the rebel soldiers. "I was very upset. I could not stay at the redemption," he says.

CSI has been publicly challenged on the effects of redemption. The UN children's agency UNICEF started a row when it suggested that redemption encourages further slave raiding.

There was also a split with Baroness Cox, an initially enthusiastic member who formed a rival organisation, Christian Solidarity Worldwide, in 1997 after an acrimonious falling-out with Eibner. CSW went on to redeem more than 3,000 slaves but stopped one year ago because it "had successfully raised the profile of slavery", according to a spokeswoman.

Baroness Cox admits that the process is open to corruption but remains convinced that every redeemed slave was genuine: "It was just horribly true and horribly authentic".

On theground, however, aid workers were seeing thing differently. One nurse with a European aid agency witnessed a first-time redemption by a small American Christian group - not CSI - in late 1999. "They brought the kids to be redeemed to a clearing under the trees. I knew two of them by name," she says.

"They were wearing our [feeding centre] bracelets. And the logistician recognised the Arab guy as someone from the district who worked with the SRRA [the Sudan Relief and Rehabilitation Association, the rebels' relief-coordination wing]." The Americans, who were filming the redemption, did not notice.

The nurse wanted to speak out but her colleague told her to keep quiet. "He said, 'There are guys here with guns. Let them give the money if they want'," she recalls.

At this time, redemption was also causing upset in rebel circles. A December 1999 meeting of the SPLA National Liberation Council - southern Sudan's top civil and military leaders - saw furious accusations of profiteering traded openly late into the night. Among those singled out was Dr Bona Malwal, a Sudanese academic who lectures in Oxford and had frequently accompanied CSI redemption trips. Also named was Dr Justin Yaac, now a senior SPLA official.

A month later, the SPLA leader, Dr John Garang, made a written order forbidding Malwal, Yaac and three other officials from travelling on future redemptions. Malwal and Yaac, both based outside Sudan, deny any suggestion of wrong-doing and say they were merely taking advantage of a free plane-ride into the war-zone.

However, Dr Yaac admits that the rebels made exorbitant profits on selling Sudanese pounds to CSI up to the end of 1999 - enough to buy thousands of gallons of fuel, 27 second-hand Land Cruisers and 10,000 uniforms for the army.

The debate was re-ignited six months later by an angry letter from Aleu Ayieny Aleu, a SPLA commander who had retired due to war wounds. Redemption had become "the worse \ racket of mafia dimensions," he railed.

Furthermore, he said, a relative, SPLA captain Akec Tong Aleu, had been been "forced several times to pretend as an Arab and simulate the sale of free children to CSI on camera".

Last August, Karl Vick of the Washington Post and I made arrangements to meet Akec Tong Aleu in Akon, a village deep inside Bahr el Ghazal province. After a week of waiting, Tong failed to show. "I think he was kept away from you," SPLA spokesman, Kwaje, told us.

Despite the multiplicity of warning signs, CSI has accelerated the redemption process in the past two years. Planes chartered by CSI have regularly touched down in Bahr el Ghazal, bringing medicine, food and hundreds of thousands of dollars. More than 50,000 slaves have been redeemed in this period.

Eibner says he was aware of the controversies but put them down to petty politicking: "CSI became the vehicle to fight internal battles. It had very little to do with slave redemption". Instead, he went on to direct a highly publicised anti-slavery campaign that grabbed the public imagination. It hasn't let go.

With conservative Christian George W. Bush in the presidency, Sudan has become a political hot potato in the US.

Black political and religious leaders, such as the New York preacher Rev Al Sharpton, have queued up to witness redemption.

In December 2001, Perry Farrell, lead singer with the rock group Jane's Addiction, helped to free 2,300 slaves. According to reports, he led "emancipation dances" in remote villages using a portable stereo.

Thanks largely to CSI, slavery has percolated into the popular consciousness. Last May, 150 students from a school in the small town of Pennsauken, New Jersey, held a "Walk of Freedom". Motorists honked in support at the children holding banners proclaiming: "Stop Slavery". Laquisha Gerald had collected $44 for CSI. "I thought it was good to give up my lunch money to free slaves," the 12-year-old told the Philadelphia Inquirer."We're doing something good."

The main fundraising vehicle is the American Anti-Slavery Group (AASG), headquartered in Boston, the home of American abolitionism. Jay Williams, a black Harvard undergraduate, learned about slavery at a gospel concert and has become the public face of AASG. He explains the personal resonance of slavery and redemption: "We owe it to those that fought and died for our freedom 150 years ago to work for our brothers and sisters in Africa".

Williams has been on two redemption trips - during which 11,000 people were freed. It was an emotional experience. "It was one of the best feelings ever," he says. "You only had to see the smiles on their faces." After interviewing and photographing several slaves, he has no doubt about what he saw.

"There's no way I can believe this was planned," he says. "The consistency from interview to interview and place to place, about what happens in the raid and in the north. I don't think there's any way for people to construct a hoax."

The director of AASG, manangement consultant-turned- slavery activist Charles Jacobs, agrees. "I'm a New Yorker and I think that when rural people lie, they blush," he said.

But Sudan activists in the US have long been worried about the redemption time-bomb. "It's not that there isn't slavery," says Dan Eiffe, an Irish aid worker who has testified before the US Congress on human-rights violations by Sudan government supporters. "But it's worrying that the issue that has driven us is surrounded by scandal."

It is not that Sudan does not deserve the attention. More than two million people are estimated to have died in 19 years of fighting, and a further four million displaced. The Khartoum government has shown a ruthless disregard for the people of the south. Its planes regularly, and indiscriminately, bomb rebel-held villages.

Moreover, its efforts to combat slavery have been tokenistic. Stinging international criticism sparked the creation of a slavery commission in 1999, but military hard-liners, anxious to destabilise the south, have prevented it from functioning efficiently.

CSI estimates that 200,000 slaves remain in bondage in the north. However, aid agencies working there are sceptical. Save the Children, which works with escaped slaves, puts the figure at 7,000. According to UNICEF Khartoum director, Thomas Ekvall: "We find those \ numbers frankly impossible."

Meanwhile, the redemptions continue. The SPLA still co-ordinates CSI trips because its leadership is wary of antagonising commanders and officials in the militarily sensitive Bahr el Ghazal region. Redemption is a "sticky issue" for the leadership, admits Kwaje.

But the practice may be drawing to a close. CSI recently announced that, for the first time, it had liberated 14,500 slaves without payment. It claimed the slaves were freed through negotiations between southern and northern tribal elders.

Last autumn, a Canadian tele-evangelism agency, Crossroads, went to Kwaje looking to redeem slaves. He sent them home.

"I told them to go back to the kids who donated the money and tell them they should give it one of the aid agencies."

Today i have heard ,for the first time,on national tv(fox),the very brave and very political incorect statement that the US is actually at war against world wide spread islamo-fascism.
Bill O`Reilly said it and i admire him for his courage.
I just hope this is just a begining and soon the rest of the pc media will follow suit.
PS.The marines should have aimed at the mosque and the fact that they didn`t kill Sadr yet is very upseting.

Hood Jihadi: Luckily they escaped out of America and are now enjoying life in Saudi Arabia - hehe
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'Escaped?' out of America? Oh, your poor, poor mother! Now she has to abide by the laws of people who suppress women!

Mohammed stole things from the Bible and then changed them. It was Yitzhak (Isaac) NOT Yishmael who was taken to be sacrificed! You are thieves and liars and murderers! Lying is even considered to be a commandment from the Koran! And the only reason the Middle East is Muslim is because it was conquered by the sword!

....its really funny you guys are fighting over 2000 year old crap

it's very easy to escape out of america if you're not in prison. just buy a plane ticket or some other such run-of-the-mill method of travel. my ancestors on my mother's side ESCAPED from russia with the bolsheviks in hot pursuit hunting them down. there is a significant diffence. when saddam's brother-in-law ESCAPED from iraq, he had it made. he listened, however, to the fork-tongued saddam and went back to iraq. the result: he was torn limb from limb. mr. hood must make a philosophical leap and stop looking at everything through the wrong end of the telescope if he is to see anything resembling reality.

Hood Jihadi: Luckily they escaped out of America and are now enjoying life in Saudi Arabia - hehe.

Escaped? Why? are they fugitives? Wouldn't surprise me....

Hood, your story backs up the fact that slavery does exist in the Sudan, and exposes the fact that in addition to real slavery there is often fake slavery put on for the benefit of suckers. Nothing new here, this is old news. All it does is show that 1) Americans have good intentions 2) Muslims take advantage of that and 3) real slavery does exist in the Sudan as numerous of us here have said. You proved our point for us. Thanks.

bunch of hyennas....our actions will speaks the truth in the future...(inshallah)....

EPG, I bedlieve you are right. HJ probably got one of his little boyfriends to post for him because he couldn't handle the heat himself. After all, you have to be able to hold a rational, coherent train of thought to debate. When one exposes the lies and obvious contradictions in the koran the mussies always start yelling and throwing things. like I said:
"When you walk through the jungle the monkeys are going to scream at you and throw things. They're monkeys. It's what they do".
To "crush..." Yep, you are a screaming hyena. What's wrong? Frustrated because you can't come up with a good, logical answer to the questions about the lies in the koran? Think: Is the Word of God ever false or wrong? You are angry because you have no assurrance of salvation. The best you can hope for is that Allah will not find more sins than good deeds in you when he weighs you. You have rejected true salvation which is only through Jesus, the Christ. You have damned yourself. Your howls will echo through eternity as you burn in hell unless you repent.

I think you're right too, epg.
This "hood" seems to have at least a slight knowledge of the Qur'an. The other one never quoted any 'suras'.

Maybe we should refer to them as the names they give in their e-mail addresses;
"2pac Hood" (the old one)
& "abc Hood" (the new one)
regards, kc

"Crush", you Muslim dogs are like a pack of hyenas, although I must apologize to the hyenas for comparing your group to them. You bark at what you cannot comprehend, laugh at things that don't make sense to men, and when confronted you run like the cowardly dogs you are.

Crushie! Now what did I tell you about doing your homework? Don't you want a good job when you grow up? You get another "C" today!

You simply MUST begin your postings with a Big Letter! You continue to fail to use the first person plural as you should: It is "actions (plural). . .speak," not "speaks." You also spelled "will" with one "l." I must compliment you on continuing to spell "Zionist" correctly, however.

Dismissed, class. And don't forget your homework again, Crushie.