Damage to the mosque has prompted calls for revenge and suicide attacks.
NAJAF, Iraq (AP) - American tanks firing shells and heavy machine guns made their deepest incursion yet Friday into this stronghold of a cleric who launched an uprising last month against the U.S.-led coalition. One of Shia Islam's holiest shrines was slightly damaged by apparent gunfire, prompting calls for revenge and even suicide attacks.Top aides of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr threatened to unleash more attacks across the once-calm Shiite south and in the fetid Shiite slums of slums of Baghdad. One even urged citizens to register for suicide squads, starting Saturday. Gunmen attacked the coalition headquarters in Nasiriyah, trapping international staff inside.
In Baghdad, Hamid al-Bayati, spokesman for a mainstream Shiite group represented on the Iraqi Governing Council, called the fighting in Najaf, the world's greatest center of Shiite theology and scholarship, a "big mistake" that could inflame sectarian passions.
The U.S. Army is finally fighting to win.
"The U.S. Army is finally fighting to win."
The fact that Muqtada al-Sadr's head is still attached to his body tends to disprove that statement.
Once again, they let that scumbag spew forth his weekly dose of hate-filled vomit disguised as a sermon.
Next Friday, we need to have observers equipped with laser designators in place near all the mosques where he might put in an appearance, with F-16s circling over the city.
A quick round of "Whack-a-Mole" using a 2000 lb bomb would go a long way toward ending this "uprising."
lobo.....I like you.....I have a message to all the supporters of these coward Muslim terrorists, Al Sadr's group, which reminds me of "Spanky and the our gang"
If they stop hiding in, storing weapons in, and shooting from Holy sites, the Holy sites won't have to be hammered. Duh......The Iraqis and the rest of the Middle East should be upset with Spanky and his little rascals for using these sites for anything other than sermons.
Actually, they should publicly execute him for disgracing the shrine......Wake up Arabs.......You're mad at the wrong team.
Hey, that place wasn't hit by a bomb! That's what it has always looked like. ;)
CNN.com tells us the cemetery in Najaf where the Marines are fighting is a "holy cemetery." Its not just any cemetery. Yesterday, I was watching Fox when the battle began and one of their correspondents said that some of the shrines in Karbala are "extremely holy." What is it with the press? Don't they have any pride? Is there anything the liberal press finds more respectable than someone who is trying to kill them? Conservatives will tell you that the only thing our enemies understand is force and might. I think the liberals are the same. If they sense strength they kowtow. If they smell blood they go for the kill. If they think Bush or Rumsfield are wounded the go for the kill. I'll bet dollars to donuts this Sadr character will inspire a whole lot less respect in the press after he is apprehended and shown to be a loser.
Next up, CNN will point at insurgent bodies, and complain about how they were made "holey" but American troops.
If Muslims insist the Quran is the final book from God after the Torah and Bible then
they should read about the dangers of idolatry
and Baal worshiping. When the Mosque is empty it's only a building,Allah doesn't live in the bricks and glass,he's suppose to be in their hearts so they don't murder their Brothers.
In Canada we don't have "property rights" but Muslims want the Mosque to be a Holy site,this will allow the harbouring of criminals and terrorists as to protect these Peaceful God loving followers of Islam.
KNOW ISLAM - NO PEACE
If Muslims insist the Quran is the final book from God after the Torah and Bible then
they should read about the dangers of idolatry
and Baal worshiping. When the Mosque is empty it's only a building,Allah doesn't live in the bricks and glass,he's suppose to be in their hearts so they don't murder their Brothers.
In Canada we don't have "property rights" but Muslims want the Mosque to be a Holy site,this will allow the harbouring of criminals and terrorists as to protect these Peaceful God loving followers of Islam.
KNOW ISLAM - NO PEACE
If Muslims insist the Quran is the final book from God after the Torah and Bible then
they should read about the dangers of idolatry
and Baal worshiping. When the Mosque is empty it's only a building,Allah doesn't live in the bricks and glass,he's suppose to be in their hearts so they don't murder their Brothers.
In Canada we don't have "property rights" but Muslims want the Mosque to be a Holy site,this will allow the harbouring of criminals and terrorists as to protect these Peaceful God loving followers of Islam.
KNOW ISLAM - NO PEACE
Send in the F16 and carpet bomb the place. Holy shrine my @ss.
Everything those people have is "holy", its getting old...they obviously dont care about the holy places of others, after all muslims took over and stunk up the Church of the Nativity, one of the oldest Christian churches in one of Christianitys holiest cities for several weeks...they used a Christian church as cover to shoot at Israeli soldiers and that was fine but no one is allowed in their "holy" places.
Since the muslim terrorists do not value any life including their own, killing them isnt getting the point across...but bulldozing a mosque or two for each hostage they kill might work. They seem to value those silly buildings more than anything else.
Where are the heavys? If this fat rat is still alive next friday, perhaps some low level fly byes by some 52's followed by a couple of A-10's. So when he calls for suicide attacks all they have to do is step outside the mosque into the A-10 sights. Then follow in with the C-130 spectres for some nightime patrols. If martyrDOOM is what they want, then we should be happy to send them to hell. As for the Shia mosque, well may it be the first we level on the road to Tehran. Its time to escalate, escalate, escalate or get out. I say, Let the Tanks roll on!
DC Watson:
You're right. Why doesn't the Shia clergy call upon Sadr to move his armed followers out of the holiest sites of their religion. It's as if a renegade Jesuit crusader order had taken over the Vatican, was stockpiling arms in it and sending out armed groups to attack some enemy.
What do you call a mosque that contains ammunitions, armed militia, a mullah advocating violence and inciting his congregation to attack? A TARGET.
Why is the Shia leadership so scared of Sadr?
Mike H
the answeris IRAN
the Iranian counterfeit dollar
and Irans medalling in mid east affairs or they think they are mideast affairs. RE: THE SAYTANIC VERSES by ALmand RAHSID
where are the iranians defly quiet, truth hurts
The Koran’s 150 Jihad Verses, Compiled by Yoel Natan
www.angelfire.com/moon/yoelnatan/koranwarpassages.htm
when my father landed in oran in 1943 before threir invasion of italy the arab children greetedn the commander of the 85th div. with " hey chicken shit mother fucker". quite some good english for 43. they scavenged back then and are scavenging now. In the middle east always carry a side arm.
When Muslims trashed the Church of the Nativity I don't recall Christians calling for revenge and suicide attacks. Once again Islam shows it's true face.
As for respecting Muslim "holy" sites I see no reason to respect such sites when Muslims seem to have no respect for the holy sites of other faiths. The first synagogue burned in France since WW2 was burned by immigrant Muslim youth.
Palestinians recently desecrated the graves of British WW1 veterans. Immigrant Muslims also desecrate Jewish cemetaries and synagogues in Europe.If Muslims don't want their "holy" places and mosques damaged they shouldn't launch "military" operations from them which causes them to become military targets.
Interesting connection.
Read that the cemetery in question is actually called "The Valley of Peace"!
So that's what the muslims actually mean when they say Islam is a religion of "Peace"
The holy sites of a paganistic cult? They aren't holy to me and I've seen how Islamics have rampaged through the holy sites of others. Most recent being atrocities and mass destruction of churches in Kososvo. They trash the Temple Mount in aloony attempt to eliminate it's Jewish heritage.
Let's call a spade a spade.Islam is a cult.
So according to all of this the war of Iraq aims at halting the spread of 'menacing'Islam, spearheaded by muslim youths desecrating graves somewhere in france. NO I got it, it was because Sadam's regime was linked to terrorism, that is the secular Sadam who hounded and executed islamic radicals, the former US errand boy in the gulf who was even encouraged to bash his head against the mullah revolutionaries of iran. Hold on, might it be those infamous WOD, which are still hidden all over the desert awaiting discovery..oh there is a rumor going round that the moribound, decrepid and sanction-choked iraqi threat, somehow managed to smuggle them into syria, in the nick of time. So lets go look for them there now, shall we..
Najaf, one of the 3,752 holiest sites in Islam. Keeper of the holy hand grenade, no doubt. hmmm, doesn't Israel have some nice armored bulldozers?
ISlaM is as quite rightly said far more than a religion, indeed it can be said that it is not even a religion but a complete system for the subjugation of the human spirit.
If Hitler had established NAZISM as a religion he would have been far more successful than he was.
Only total war can be fought against the Islamists and i hope our boys are up to what that means.
Any mercy or compassion is viewed by them as a sign of western weakness . It has always been so throughout the history of conflict with Islam.
When we hear about the brutality of the crusaders and the Turkish Ottoman troops, i reealize that it was the only path left open to them.
Arxhole got it right!
I repeat....
"So according to all of this the war of Iraq aims at halting the spread of menacing Islam, spearheaded by muslim (mullahs under orders from the wahabists competing with other mullahs for followers, fighters, media coverage, that inspire)muslim youths desecrating graves somewhere in france, (Spain, Germany, Canada, and lots more). NO I got it,(good, finally), it was because Sadam's regime was linked to terrorism,(M.ATTA and that Iraqi Secret Service guy meeting in Czechoslovkia, that is the secular, (and then super pious - he actually wrote a copy of the Koran in his own blood - had portraits of himself made to look like a holy warrior), Sadam who hounded and executed islamic radicals, (and anyone else who might pose a threat), the former US, (and then current Russian, Germany, French) errand boy in the gulf who was even encouraged to bash his head against the mullah revolutionaries of iran, whom we wanted to pay for killing the Shah regime, taking US hostages for over 400 days). Hold on, might it be those infamous WOD, which are still hidden all over the (Syrian)desert (Lebanon's Beka valley and Sudan)awaiting discovery..oh there is a rumor going round that the moribound, decrepid and sanction-choked iraqi threat, somehow managed to smuggle them into syria, in the nick of time. So lets go look for them there now, shall we.." (OK! Right On! Now you're making some sense!)
(The fight against A-holes for Allah continues!)
You must really be upset that people ignored your post, is that why you felt the need to repeat it?
I am from west. I understand that in the west people are different and equally talented. I understand that is not by race, religion, color or creed that makes us good or evil - but it comes from our history, our ancestors, our parents that instill good and evil and from our hearts. I have never seen such violence from any region other than the Middle East. The innocent coming from this region must be very disheartened. At least for the American culture we only convict the guilty and not others in their place. My heart goes out to all who are truly in love with their maker and find humiliation in the massacre of the innocent. And now to turn from all I have believed all of my life, any Jihad makes me leery. I associate Jihad with a ruthless, insensitive, mentally impared individual. And that is very unfortunate.
lol infidel...Arxhole, you show your paucity of intelligence, reasoning skills and information with an opening line like "So according to all of this"
...puhlease...
lmfao
...on a lighter note, the more they shoot from mosques, the more mosques get shot up...and this is a bad thing?...when enough mosques get blown up, muslims that wish to live in peace will have to rise up themselves, and put the foot down on their own religious "leaders"...that or their mosques keep getting shot up. Liars lie...I tend to think of that when I hear the words of those who commend the killers of innocents.
...those who would impose their worldview...
(and then the word "fascist" comes to mind)
I think of those who belittle an opponent without belaboring a point...but I digress.
So as far as the mosques go, not too worried about it...it's always a "last stand" sorta place for an enemy...especially an enemy who takes his actions and places his words "in the name of God".
"God Willing" always cracks me up too...
"God Willing" I'd shoot in a friendly fire zone and commit war crimes...oh no wait...that's god willing, I'll commit war crimes by killing all the Muslim men, and then distribute 4/5ths of the women (and keep the rest)..oh...and all male children must go too..."God Willing"
I don't think so.
Every other religion that has gone on a world domination trip before has failed in its attempts at subjugation. This latest one will be kept in its place too.
When the debate turns to personal insults it can only mean that the arguments are weak. I shall refrain from any such debacle. I'm sorry if I caused offence with my ironic tone but that's part of the game-all other 'modes' of discussion can be reserved for the pub . If anybody, such as Bob Owens, is around and wants to engage in some fruitfull debate, please be my guest!