Najaf: A terrified family strolls by a wicked American and his tank
From AP, :
NAJAF, Iraq -- U.S. soldiers seized the governor's office Thursday in the holy city of Najaf, wresting control from Shiite militiamen loyal to a radical cleric in battles that left an estimated 40 insurgents dead. ...Amid concerns that U.S. troops were about to move directly against anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, his militiamen dug in in Najaf, taking positions behind earthen mounds leading into the city center and firing a barrage of mortar shells and small arms fire at the U.S. base late Thursday. American soldiers responded with 120mm mortar fire.
Gunmen took cover behind buildings as American helicopters flew overhead. An increased number of fighters were seen in the city center.
"We will fight until the last drop of our blood," said Dhia Shami, as he stood behind a dirt barricade.
"We expect the Americans to retreat," said fellow militiaman Malek Holeicha. "We are fighting for our faith. They don't have any faith."
At the city's Imam Ali shrine, one of the holiest sites in Shiite Islam, a coffin wrapped in an Iraqi flag was brought in -- apparently one of the dead from the fighting.
"This is a martyr for Muqtada," mourners chanted. ...
Elsewhere, coalition troops exchanged gunfire with dozens of al-Sadr militiamen in Karbala, 50 miles north of Najaf. Militiamen took ambush positions behind cars and a discarded desk a few hundred yards from the city's main Shiite shrines.
A witness told Associated Press Television News that troops fired on the insurgents and ended up destroying four buses of Pakistani pilgrims, which were seen burning. The witness said "three or four" Pakistanis had been killed.
"We're going to demolish them -- and even Bush," shouted one masked man, waving a Kalashnikov. "We're going to win, by God's will."
Militiamen also fired on Italian troops farther south near Nasiriyah, wounding one, the Italian military said.
In the past two days U.S. soldiers estimate they have killed about 80 militiamen. One U.S. soldier was killed Wednesday.
"I think we are going to gain momentum from now on," said Lt. Michael Watson, a platoon leader with the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment in Najaf.
The Baghdad bomb exploded outside a 3-foot-high concrete blast wall that protects a U.S. checkpoint.
The U.S. soldier slain by the bomb was the 21st U.S. serviceman killed in Iraq in May. The homicide bomber also died.
An Internet statement signed by a group linked to Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.
The statement, on a Web site known for militant Islamic messages, was signed by the military wing of the "Monotheism and Jihad Group," which is believed led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The Jordanian is wanted by the United States for allegedly organizing militants to fight U.S. troops in Iraq on behalf of Al Qaeda. The statement's authenticity could not be confirmed. ...
Meanwhile, a blindfolded man described as an Iraqi-American being held hostage in Iraq was shown pleading for help on an Arab TV station.
The man, speaking English, gave his name as Aban Elias and said he was from Denver.
"I am a civil engineer working here in Baghdad," he said, adding that he worked for the Pentagon.
Elias, shown on Dubai-based Al-Arabiya TV, appealed to Islamic associations to work for his release.
With the tape came a statement from a previously unknown group calling itself "The Islamic Rage Brigade." The group said Elias was kidnapped on May 3. It made no demands.
40 more of al Sadr's hot dog brigade met their maker last night.......courtesy of the finest fighting machine on planet earth......The U.S. Armed Forces.........aaaathanku!
There are more Muslims killed by fellow Muslims than by non-Muslims.
Sistani and the other more established Shite leaders what Sadr out of the picture quickly - as do we!
jihan
Alright Already...You Muslims say you have "God"...You Muslims say you will win because you have "God"..
My question is when is the winning going to start? Its been 1400 years for crying out loud, and you just keep losing! If your "God" is anything but a fake or just a real loser of a "God" you ought to be doing better? No?
Oh yeah, I remember, you blame satan for your losses? Well what does that say about your so called "God"? It says he is a wimp when the devil comes to play...Wake up!! Manmade "Gods" do not bless or curse...they just sit there deaf, dumb and blind...
PS: Taking a building or two down and losing an entire country or two as a result is NOT WINNING....Try Comparing the casualties between the "palensinians" (Should be known as Trans Jordanians) and the Israelites....Hmmm....Maybe you are serving the wrong "God" Eh?
My late father, a Navy man who had considerable experience in North Africa and the Middle East during and immediately after World War II, had a saying, "Never trust a Frenchman or an Arab."
That said, I will add that right now Sistani seems to be getting on board--but I wouldn't trust him in the long run any farther than I could see him through a rifle scope. He is as virulent an Islamist than Sadr, but he has the maturity and camel-sense (Arab version of our horse-sense, a quality that is lacking in so many Western liberals)to know that a head-to-head with American firepower is the way to get a trip to the 72 virgins, not bring about an Islamic world order.
Use Sistani if we have to, but never, never, never ever trust him.
"Why do they hate us?"
Recent US Government War Crimes in Iraq
Sahra Khazam, 23, said she and her family of four were forced by American marines into one room of their home in Falluja and had to ask permission to leave the room or to eat and drink. "They became the people of the house," she said, sitting in her sweltering tent. "Finally we left. It was obvious they were shooting anything that moved. So we raised a white flag, and on foot we took a dirt road out of town." (Emphasis supplied). Source: "Baghdad Camp Houses Those Fleeing Falluja," NY Times April 26, 2004
...more than 50 former British ambassadors published a letter pleading with Prime Minister Tony Blair to use his influence to change U.S. Middle East policies that they called "doomed to failure." The protest letter -- an unprecedented move among former envoys here -- expressed the dismay that many British foreign policy experts say they have felt over the Bush administration's evolving role in Iraq and in the Arab-Israeli conflict. The ambassadors said the U.S.-led coalition had "no effective plan" for Iraq after the war and an apparent disregard for the lives of Iraqis. The letter put the number of Iraqi dead at between 10,000 and 15,000 since last year's invasion. (Emphasis supplied). Source: "British Weigh More Troops for Iraq 50 Ex-Envoys Urge Blair to Press for Change in U.S. Mideast Policy," Washington Post, April 27, 2004; Page A16
Collective Punishment of Sub-Human "Amalek"
Kill Four Americans and Have Your Entire City Bombed (if you're Arab)
The scenario: A mob of Israelis slaughter and hang from a bridge four Arab "contractors." The perpetrators then take refuge in an Israeli city. Instead of using police methods to arrest only the perps responsible, the Arab army seeks retribution by beseiging and bombarding the Israeli city. Hundreds of Israeli civilans are killed as a result.
Is such a scenario possible for Israelis? Of course not! No Zionist city full of Judaics could be bombarded. The bombardment would elicit graphic publicity and atrocity photos in all major European and American newspapers. American TV networks (not just Al-Jazeera) would broadcast heart-rending scenes of Israeli civilian victims in explicit detail. Charges of genocide and analogies to Nazi tactics would be summoned. Talk of war crimes charges and trials for Arab commanders responsible would be on the lips of almost every American commentator. The earth would shake with international outrage and indignation.
The reality: A mob of Iraqis slaughter and hang from a bridge four American "contractors." The perpetrators then take refuge in an Iraqi city. Instead of using police methods to arrest only the perps responsible, the US military seeks retribution by beseiging and bombarding the Arab city. Hundreds of Iraqi civilians are killed as a result.
Is this the current reality for Iraqis? Absolutely! It happened earlier this month. The Arab city of Fallujah, population 300,000, was bombarded in such a manner. No graphic publicity and atrocity photos appeared in any major American newspaper and mainly Al-Jazeera and other Arab networks were the news outlets that broadcast scenes of Iraqi civilian victims in explicit detail. Almost none of this videotape was shown on American television. No charges of genocide and analogies to Nazi tactics have been summoned by US media. Talk of war crimes charges and trials for American commanders responsible are absent from the lips of almost all establishment media commentators in America. The collective punishment of an entire Iraqi city for the crimes of a few, proceeds as business-as-usual. Hundreds of Iraqi women and children and elderly killed at the hands of US troops in Fallujah? So what? Who cares? Ho-hum.
Why the disparity in coverage, exposure and subsequent editorial reaction? Because Judaics are the world's one-and-only Master Race of Holy People. According to their most sacred books, (the Talmud and Kabbalah), Judaics are the only true humans on earth. All other people, especially those whom they term "Amalek" (the Arabs), are sub-human. The white race in America, in so far as it serves its assigned function as the subservient enforcement arm or "golem" of the rabbis, is tolerated and given an elevated status over the other races of the earth, second only to the Israelis themselves.
Notice to international human rights conferences on "anti-Semitic racism": when will there be a high profile human rights conference investigating the widespread teaching in "Israel" among followers of Orthodox Judaism, that equates Arab human beings with Amalek? The Amalekites are a nation that Judaism decrees must be exterminated. Orthodox Judaism teaches that contemporary Palestinians and Arabs are Amalek.
Al-Qaeda statement= what a waste of bandwidth
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and all who Fight with Her give them Strength and Courage to Stay the Course to Victory Amen
Go to Savage's web and get the pictures to remind those who fave forgotten send to all news networks
i am finding, from all the prowar and promirder postings that the american people like murder and the annihilation of unarmed innocent civilians
if that was your message, happy to tell u i received it loud and clear
thanks
To: #spnh, zionistno1, zdzdbzd, hjklhhjh
You fool, we know you are a Muslim poster. None of your idiotic rantings affect those of us who know better (most visitors to this site). We laugh at you, you pathetic Muslim girlie-men!
I hope they have someone protecting the rear end of that tank!
Question for Tarek:
I want a real answer not one all hiped with propaganda.
How come when a muslim countries goverment, religion, church, police and people (the majority of the society) kill fellow citizens by the tens of thousands. And when there is no prosecution for crimes....because they are not crimes....then
why do you make such issue over some of your fellow citizens dying from our hands when the purpetrators will face justice?
Is it simply that it is ok for a muslim fealing more rightous then another muslim to take his or her fellow citizens life.
Being muslim would make me nervous. Because I would believe that there will always be someone out there that would believe that they are more rightous then me, and they would take my life.
Obviously, you believe you are more rightous than me, but at what point does a fellow muslim make you shake in your boots.
Allah is the true name of God...
Clarifying the linguistic connections between the Names Allah and Elohim.
First we see the identical prononciation in Scripture:
The word for God in Genesis 1:1 is elohim, which is essentially a plural form of a more basic root-Hebrew word for God,(eloh).
Furthermore, the Arabic translation of the Jewish Bible uses the name "Allah" to refer to God in Genesis 1:1
" Fee al-badi' khalaqa Allahu as-Samaawaat wa al-Ard . . ."
In addition to the etymological connection based on sound, we also discover the connections of the two Names based on roots, spelling, meaning, and geography.
If one were to find the word (eloh) (alef-lamed-heh) in an inscription written in paleo-hebrew, aramaic, or some sort of Nabatean script, it could be pronounced numerous ways without the diacritical marks to guide the reader.
When treated as a verb root, this letter combination (proncounced alah) is the root for the verb "to swear" or "to take an oath," as well as the verb "to deify" or "to worship"
[look up alef-lamed-heh (ALH) in Milon Ben-Y'hudaah, Ivri-Angli (Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary)]. The root itself finds its origin with an older root, el, which means God, deity, power, strength..
So, one of the basic Hebrew words for God, (eloh), can easily be pronounced alah without the diacritical marks. Not surprisingly, the Aramaic word for God, according to the Lexicon offered at http://peshitta.org, is (alah).
This word, in the standard script , or the Estrangela script , is spelled alap-lamad-heh (ALH), which are the exact corresponding letters to the Hebrew eloh.
The Aramaic is closely related to the more ancient root word for God, eel (according to Robert Oshana's on-line introduction to basic Assyrian Aramaic at www.learnassyrian.com).
The Arabic word for God, Allah, is spelled in a very similar way, and is remotely related to the more generic word for deity, ilah. We're quickly starting to notice the obvious linguistic and etymological connections between the respective words for God in these closely related Semitic languages (e.g. Allah, Alah, and Eloh being related to Ilah, Eel, and El, respectively).
Let me make it more clear....
We have made the connection in terms of spelling, as all these words are spelled similar to one another.
The geographic connection is there, as these respective languages originate in regions that are very close to one another.
The roots are also basically the same.
The meanings are essentially the same.
In conclusion, the ancient Semitic names for God (Allah and Elohim) are actually the same.
Peace
P.S.
Hitler was a Christian he killed 6 million Jews, the USA is a Christian state which killed 10 million during the firebombings of North Korea... the KKK are a racist "blood cult" who have murdered and terrorised the black community in the United states for years. Should we not therefore equate these terrorists among many others with the Christian faith? should we begin to call these atrocities Christian terrorism? Alchohol abuse in the west is at epademic proportions... domestic violence are at an all time high... if a man beats his wife, girl friend etc... in the USA or the UK ("Christian" countries) is the problem thus rooted in the nations primary faith i.e. Christianity? the opinions expressed on this side are illogical and racist... hate mongering will get you all nowhere!!! if i was to claim the Israeli policies against Palestinians is rooted in Judaisms violent nature would i not be condemned as BEING ANTI-SEMETIC? you guys all need to get your heads checked because the only haters here are YOU! "Christians" and "Jews" who are afraid of truth and history which will always render your so called "facts" as mere myth used to demonise Islam in order to justify your own terrorism against the Islamic and eastern world!
FREE PALESTINE JUSTICE TO ALL!!!
For had it not been that Allah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is mentioned much, would surely have been pulled down. Indeed Allah will help those who help His (cause). Truly Allah is All strong, All mighty"
(Surah Al-Hajj 22:40)
"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from you one who will protect and raise for us from you one who will help"
(Surah An-Nisa 4:75)
"… when it is said to them; 'Make not mischief on the Earth', they say; 'We are only peace makers'. Indeed they are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive it not"
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:11-12)
And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you. But do not transgress the limits. Truly Allah loves not the transgressors"
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:190)
"...If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind"
(Surah Al-Maaida 5:32)
"There is no compulsion in religion. The right path has indeed become distinct from the wrong. So whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All Hearing, All Knowing"
(Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256)
Free Palestine?! From whom? The Romans?! Your propaganda has no power here. Save your breath and spare us your pleading for the disowned Jordanian and Egyptian Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza.
While you're at it, why don't you advocate Poland and Russia return the land it won from germany after that country made war on them and lost?
If you really care about the plight of these so called 'Palestinians', whay don't you go after the group that exploits them the most - the Arab world!
"Anon"
In your first post you just copied and pasted an utter load of lies about Allah being the same as the one true God "Yahweh".
No.
I'm not Jewish.
I just acknowledge that the one true God who revealed Himself to the Jews thousands of years ago, is infact, as stated , the 'one true God'.
In total contrast and opposition to 'allah'.
They can not be, never were, and never will be the same.
Muhammed said they were for the sole purpose of trying to win the Jews and Christians as converts.
"Hitler was a Christian"
No Anon he, clearly wasn't.
"This is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth"
1John 1:5-6
I think we can ascertain that Hitler walked in darkness...can we not?
In your second post you only quoted abrogated Meccan verses.
Quote us some of the verses that replaced these from Medina.
Or do you want us to do it?
OK then, permit me to share them with you.
The verses that cancelled out the ones you shared.
"Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islâmic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikûn (unbelievers)wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, then leave their way free. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful"
Sura 9:5
"Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Sura 9:29
"And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world[]]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do"
Sura 8:39
"O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn"
Sura 9:123
Regards,
kc
Step by step motherfuckers
U have already forgot 911 and it is a good thing we will strik soon and stronger than u can imagine.
u are already crying in both Afghanistan and Iraq but the real battle hasnt started yet .
So remain on your guards kaffirs we are coming :)
Everybody
I have heard a lot of facts which are extremely misleading and baseless. Muslims killed 10 million people. I demand evidence for this accusation. And yes, even if we did kill 10 million people, i would still be pissed when foreign armies came over and killed more, for many conflicting reasons, none of them baseless. I am not prosaddam or proarafat- infact i hate them both- but i am extremely angry when i see women and children being killed. Can i tell you people something.
Did you know the US killed about 68 million people since world war II, in the form of support to cruel dictatorship governments and rebel groups, not to forget VIETNAM and KOREA. How does that make you feel. Better start thinking, because your foreign policy will soon turn everybody against you. How do you feel about killing at least 10,000 innocent civilians in iraq, not people innocent civilians.
Many people mentioned the point that all arabs are armed? This is extremely stupid of you to think that way. I spent my life in Egypt without seeing a single rifle. Its more truthful to say that many americans ARE armed, since it is legal to trade in arms in the US.
I hate war, and if that makes me a sissy muslim, well so be it
thanks
"I hate war, and if that makes me a sissy muslim, well so be it"
Who in their right mind likes war? War is death and suffering. However, as long as islam embraces hostility toward non-muslims there will be conflict.
Whilst the invasion of Iraq has yet to be justified, at least in my opinion, it is only the latest front in the islam's war against non-muslims. Muslim hostility would still be rampant even if the United States had zero involvement in foreign affairs.
Blaming others for their ills is par for the course muslim thinking. It's never the muslims who are to blame but the Americans, Israelis, Russians, Indians, Thais, Chinese... The list goes on and on. Across the world, wherever muslims and non-muslims meet there is tension.
As long as muslims answer the call to jihad, there will be no peace, only war. Get used to it or do something about it by changing the way your faith views outsiders!
Jihadist:
You are so messed up in the head!
Mike
Threaten my survival and you will be exterminated. I do not need religious justification to kill you. I need only the will to survive.
The Jews do not threaten my survival.
The Christians do not threaten my survival.
Jihadist muslims, on the other hand, just haven't evolved enough to realize you don't threaten the survival of the most powerful nation in the world. Even shackled by democracy, we still handily defeat the muslim camel bombs with all your religious fervor. Attack us on our soil again and you will only more quickly be defeated.
Crusader Front
I got to tell you that nobody goes to war and then looks for justification. This is simply retarded. American people must admit that iraq was a mistake.
Also, you seem to link jihad and terrorist attacks all the time. This is really dangerous, and it does worsen the image of Islam worldwide. the only place where jihad is really happening is in iraq, but i do have to mention one important point; there is nothing in Islam that says that the bodies of the dead should be mutilated, so thats definately unrelated to Islam. The dead are to be respected and buried. the resistance in iraq are doing it as a publicity stunt, not because the quran or hadith says so.
thanks
Tarek:
The action in Iraq was a mistake. And the U.S. government still refuses to admit the nature of the conflict there and who the real enemy is.
My point to you however, is that peaceful coexistence between the muslim and non-muslim world will never be possible as long as there are those who embrace the religious hatred and bigotry found throughout islamic teachings. The foreign policy of America, or any other nation, will never change the basic mandate of religious hostility the jihadists draw their justification and support from.
So, islam will continue to chafe against the non-muslim world until it reaches a simple apex: reform and promote peaceful coexistence or face annihilation.
Those are the facts my friend. As I said before, if you really want to avoid more war, start actively working to change the way your faith views outsiders. Unfortunately, those with the courage and foresight to do so are rare indeed.
Crusader Front
I dont think that you think that hate comes from nothing. Look what caused us to hate you and you will find out one word "Israel". The US continuously blindly supported pre and post 911. Any UN legistlation on Israel was quickly and surely vetoed by the US. You support them politically and financially.
How do you think depraved underdeveloped third world countries, such as arab countries, may see this. I am talking about the people. The general public. Your foe has the advantage of the US on every move. When supervising negotiations, you are actually supposed to be unbiased.
Either that or dont supervise or interfere with this regional issue.
thanks
Muslim:C14B39N6759 “Aisha, the wife of Allah’s Apostle, reported: ‘Allah’s Messenger left my apartment during the night. Then he came and he saw me in an agitated state.’ He said: “Aisha, what has happened to you? Do you feel jealous?” I said: “How can it be that a girl like me would not feel jealous in regard to a husband like you? Thereupon Allah’s Messenger said: “It is your devil who has come to you.” I said: “Allah’s Messenger, is there a devil with me?” He said: “Yes.” I said: “Is there a devil attached to everyone?” He said: “Yes.” I said: “Allah’s Messenger, is there a devil attached to you also?” He said: “Yes.”’”
Muslim:C14B39N6757 “Allah’s Messenger said: ‘There is none amongst you with whom is not an attaché from amongst the jinn, a devil.’ The Companions said: ‘Allah’s Messenger, is there a devil with you too?’ Thereupon he said: ‘Yes, but Allah helps me against him so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good.’”
["good" as in murdering and raping, robbing and looting]
Bukhari:V6B60N475 “Allah’s Apostle became sick and could not offer his prayer. A lady came and said, ‘Muhammad! I think that your Satan has forsaken you, for I have not seen him with you for two or three nights!’ On that Allah revealed: ‘By the night when it darkens, your Lord has neither forsaken you, nor hated you.’” [93:1]
Ishaq:166 “‘You have recited to the people that which I did not bring to you from Allah, and you have said that which He did not say to you.’ The Messenger was grieved and feared Allah greatly. So Allah sent a revelation to him, consoling him and making light of the affair [of worldly bargains and Satanic indulgences]. He informed him that there had never been a prophet or messenger before who desired as he desired and wished as he wished but that Satan had cast words into his recitation, as he had interjected them on Muhammad’s tongue and into his desires.”
[proof that muhammad was demon posessed]
And now for the cover up, and abrogation of the koran, done by clerics hundreds of years later of course
Ishaq:166 “Then Allah annulled what Satan had cast, and established his verses by telling him that he was like other prophets and messengers. Every Messenger or Prophet before you recited the message Satan cast into his recitation. Allah abrogates what Satan casts. Then Allah established his verses.’”
Please do name those other prohets who were posessed by satan.
you see Tarek, what muhammad had done was what is called the satanic verses. Muhammad himself had named Allah the rock's other rock gods.
Qur’an 22:52 “Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before you, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some vanity into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in.” [Another translation reads:] “He recited (the message) Satan proposed. But Allah abolishes that which Satan proposes.” [A third claims:] “Satan made a suggestion respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which Satan casts,” [A fourth:] “whose recitations Satan tampered with, yet Allah abrogates what Satan interpolates; and Allah will confirm His Signs/Revelations.”
Qur’an 22:53 “He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, the Devil’s proposals, but a trial and temptation for those in whose hearts is a disease. Verily the wrong-doers are in a schism. And those on whom knowledge has been bestowed may learn that the (Qur’an) is the truth from your Lord, that they may believe, and their hearts may submit lowly before it.”
Tabari VI:110 “Thus Allah removed the sorrow from his Messenger, reassured him about that which he had feared, and cancelled the words which Satan had cast on his tongue, that their gods were exalted high-flying cranes (goddesses) whose intercession was accepted with approval. He now revealed, following the mention of ‘Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat,’ the words: ‘are yours the males and his the females? That indeed is an unfair division!”
Qur’an 53:1 “I call to witness the Star when it dips. Your Companion (Muhammad) is neither confused, deceived, nor misled [except by Satan, in the guise of Allah]. Nor does he speak out of (his own) desire [unless he is tempted with money, sex, and power]. It is a revelation revealed, He was taught (this Qur’an) by the Supreme Intellect (Gabriel [actually Lucifer]), One free from any defect in body or mind: for he rose and became stable (in stately form), clear to view. While he was in the highest part of the horizon, then he approached and came closer, then he prostrated. He was at a distance of but two bow-lengths or nearer.”
Qur’an 53:19 “Have you then seen or thought upon Al-Lat and Al-Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs), and considered another, the third (goddess), Manat (of the pagan deities)? What! for you sons, the male sex, and for Him, daughters, the female? Are yours the males and His the females? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!”
Tabari VI:110 “When Muhammad brought a revelation from Allah canceling what Satan had cast on the tongue of His Prophet, the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the position of our gods with Allah.”
Muhammad keep company with demons
Tabari VI:116/Ishaq:193 “When the Messenger despaired of getting any positive response from the Thaqif, he left Ta’if to return to Mecca. When he was at Nakhlah, he rose in the middle of the night to pray, and, as Allah has told [in the Qur’an], a number of the jinn [devils] passed by. They listened to him, and when he had completed his prayer they went back to their people to warn them, having believed and responded to what they had heard. Allah mentioned their story when he said: Qur’an 46:29 “Behold, We turned towards you (Muhammad) a company of Jinn who wished to hear the Qur’an: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, ‘Give ear!’”
Qur’an 46:30 “We [Jinns/Demons] have heard a Book revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides to the Truth and to a Straight Path.’ ‘O our people, hearken to the one who invites (you) to Allah, and believe in him. He will forgive you your sins, and deliver you from a Penalty Grievous.’”
No, everything is predetermined, remember?
demons preaching the Koran, imagine that.
Hang on... Did I just read that? Tarek says:
"i am finding, from all the prowar and promirder (sic.) postings that the american people like murder and the annihilation of unarmed innocent civilians"
I thought that Islam didn't have a problem with war and murder. Aren't you supposed to be OK with all of this? After all, the Qu'ran doesn't shrink from the idea, why do you?
And you can't seriously mean to tell me that you can declare Jihad on another nation, or people, and not expect that they will just lay down and take it. You have to realize if you are going to endorse a policy of "convert or die" that there will be people out there that will say: (pardon my French) "No F--king way!" You have to expect a fight. So stop whining about something that you have a hand in; there is just as much blood on your doorstep as anyone else's.
Paula
"I thought that Islam didn't have a problem with war and murder."
No actually, Islam is not Ok to the attacks on innocent civilians. Any person who does is unrelated to Islam.
I dont expect anybody who we do attack to just stand around and take it, but i am really interested to know how did saddam hussein attack you. I am curious toi know if any other arab country did anything to the US besides appeasing to it and doing anything it wants. I also want to say that it comes from our weakness above all.
Nobody declared Jihad on US, and i do want to know which Islamic scholar did mention that we should wage Jihad on the US. Do you include Osama bin Ladin to our Muslim scholars?
Is that the reason for Vietnam as well? Did vietnamese non muslims wage jihad on the US? Did korea wage jihad on the US?
After world war II, all the US was doing is wage war against different people. I dont know, are they frightening the world by that? Are the sending the message "you could be next". I am not afraid of war, but i do hate it. I just want to make clear that you started all the wars, but take them to us and we will either die fighting or win.
Thank you paula
For the final time, Allah is not a rock god, and never was and never will be. Allah is our god, nobody has seen him nobody ever will. Your connection of him and other pagan gods strikes me as funny
thanks