U.S. Sets Public Baghdad Court Martial in Abuse Case

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U.S. army Spc. Jeremy Sivits (AP)

It won't satisfy anyone, of course.

In related news,Reuters quotes defense officials as reporting that already this week the U.S. military punished two Army Reserve soldiers who assaulted prisoners while working as guards at Guantanamo.

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A 24-year-old military policeman will face a public court martial in Baghdad next week, the first of seven American soldiers to be tried on charges of abusing Iraqi prisoners, a U.S. military spokesman said Sunday.

Stung by photographs of humiliation that have hardened Arab anger at the United States, the army promised full media access when Specialist Jeremy Sivits goes on trial on May 19, but it was unclear if the court hearings would be televised.

"It is not our intention to hide anything," Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told a news conference, though he has insisted there would be no "show trial."

Sivits, who faces three charges, including one of maltreating detainees, is one of seven military police to be charged with abusing prisoners in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, where Saddam Hussein's torturers tormented thousands of Iraqis.

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I don't agree with what these military policemen did but:

If a "brave" muslin were to do this to a none muslin prisoner do you think the "leaders" of his country would take action? Don't hold your breath waiting if it ever happens. They would praise and reward him for his wonderful religious work.

"Hardened Arab anger"? The hypocrisy of that statement is astonishing! One would think that Arab countries were bywords for civilized behavior instead of for raw hatred, bigotry, violence, and barbarity. Frankly, I must confess to not caring what the Arabs think about the Abu Ghreb mess. Yes, the soldiers were wrong, and their acts shame themselves and taint this country's image. However, what they did was far less than what goes on in jails in Arab countries. Moreover, all the ones doing were not American; some of them were Iraqis. Some Arabs hate us no matter what we do. We do good for them, and they hate us; we do bad things -- seldom -- and they hate us, too. Some of them will just use Abu Ghreb as a cover to commit terrorist acts that they intended to commit anyway. So, the Arab street could stuff it, IMO.

and i know just the thing to stuff the arab street with and end the whole problem once and for all

NORMAL PEOPLE AND GHASTLY ACTIONS
excerpt from:

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/relaged/970108prisonexp.html

"In the prison-conscious autumn of 1971, when George Jackson was killed at San Quentin and Attica erupted in even more deadly rebellion and retribution, the Stanford Prison Experiment made news in a big way. It offered the world a videotaped demonstration of how ordinary people ­ middle-class college students ­ can do things they would have never believed they were capable of doing. It seemed to say, as Hannah Arendt said of Adolf Eichmann, that normal people can take ghastly actions. "

I saw Linny London's lawyers on Fox and they had a really convincing argument for some of the photos. They said they were staged to be used in interrogation. Show them to one of these insurgents and say "Look what can happen, an American woman holding a Muslim man on a leash, tsk tsk tsk. Wouldn't it be better to just tell us where the IEDs are?" What if these *were* staged. Everyone's frothing at the mouth before we know anything about the situation. In these days of CGIs, a picture may be worth 1000 words but it could be a fantasy unless there really is a starship Enterprise.

HAS ANYONE THOUGHT THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN INSTIGATED BY A PERSON OR PERSONS SYMPATHETIC TO THE ISLAM CAUSE. DO THE ARM SERVICES HAVE A DON'T ASK DON'T TELL POLICY ABOUT RELIGIOUS CONVICTION. SEEMS STRANGE THAT IN ALL OTHER WARS NO SOLDIER, THAT I KNOW OF, TOOK PICTURES FOR THE FUN OF IT.

Dog

I think the answer is no, so what does that have to do with anything. Arab countries have no freedom and no democracy, and it is obvious. Is america is treating the wrong by doing more wrong. Both are wrong, and both are not justified.

P.S. I think what america is doing in Guantanamo is extremely barbaric, and i think that does show how the US treats non americans. Please justify why a democratic, free, human-rights abiding country would do that to prisoners.

thanks

Tarek

maybe we took lessons for arabs and muslins. guess the lesson was well learned

Dog

Good thing you are learning from muslim governments. Pretty soon there will be the kingdom of the United States. No freedom and you will go back in civilisation.

Continue your double standards, and say one thing and mean another.

thanks

tarek,
America loves Freedom and you will not win ! you point that what you want to do is take our freedom
We don't like you civil-ation murder-ing people sewer in the streets you are sick!
God gave us fruit of the vine to make us whole not to kill over like your People! Americans are wake-ing to the likes of you.

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God Bless the USA and all Who Fight with her give Them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Tarek:

Being a free society doesn`t mean that you are free to commit crimes against it .

Like any civilized society, it has laws that govern it. Yes; the actions that are taken by our justice system to protect this nation from enemies foreign and abroad are rightfully challenged in our courts every day and if there is proof that the detainees are innocent, then they shall be released as hundreds have from Guantanamo.

Tarek:

And by the way, there have been a lot of detainees at Guantanamo that have not wanted to leave because the treatment was so much better than at home, better food ,medicine,doctors, clean living quarters, Etc.

News Max cover story
may 11,2004 Embittered Gen. Taguba had grudge against army, Rumsfeld

Seams that he is pissed at the army over his father and the story about broom is from a terriorst.
Col. Hackworth gave the phots to the Media!
Wow and today we find a web sight snuff film were the Savages cut a mans head off I hope that the Libs are Proud!
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