Al-Qaeda chief's death denied

Now Al-Qaeda is saying that Abdulaziz al-Muqrin is not dead after all. Perhaps he is sharing an apartment with Osama bin Laden. From The Australian, with thanks to Nicolei:

THE leader of al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al-Muqrin, is not dead, according to a statement posted today on a website which regularly publishes statements from the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Security men at the scene of a shootout in the Saudi capital of Riyadh said that Muqrin had been gunned down along with three other militants last night.

"Following the lies ... about the death of Abdulaziz al-Muqrin, we affirm that such allegations, spread by the tyrants in Saudi Arabia, are intended to undermine the morale of the mujahideen on the Arabian peninsula," said the communique.

Posted on the site http://alsaha.fares.net, its authenticity could not be ascertained immediately.

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It looks to me like the saudi's are trying to appease USA!.....buying more time?......I see a bad moon rising..i see trouble on the way!!!!

Well, who is surprised? We already know one cannot trust a word that dribbles from the mouth of Muslims. It is their culture - their culture of lies. They lie about what color underwear they wear. They are and always have been pathological liars.

There is no question about the integrity of the muslim peoples - THERE IS NONE. I never believe a word they say, so therefore I am ahead of their game.

Taqiyyah.

When you have a religious doctrine that obligates the ture believer to lie, cheat and deceive all non-mulims lest they be found wanting on the Day of Judgement and receive hell as their recompense for dereliction of this sacred duty, how is it possible to have any civilized interaction with such a community?

At the individual level it means that they can never be trusted in any manner and are fundamentally incapable of participating in any social or economic contract. There can be no trust whatsoever.

At the collective level it negates totally the oxymoronic concept of islamic "diplomacy".

Taqiyyah = Lies = Deception = Taqiyyah.

Show me any tenet of any of the world's great religions that obligates their adherents to deceive all non-believers under all conditions as a sacred duty.

The islamic ideology is fundamentally incompatible with the political, economic and social order of modern civilization. If it cannot be confined to the barren lands of its birth, the civilized world will eventually muster the will and resources to exterminate it as it has done to other failed ideologies.

If the jihadists believe that they are only dealing with the Americans and Europeans, just wait to see what happens when they ramp up their threats to the 1 billion Chinese. Any jihadist plans to disrupt the Chinese market reforms by threats to shipping lanes that carry oil to China and finished goods to their export markets will be met with savage reprisal. At this delicate stage in the Chinese reform plan, the stakes for the leadership are higher than ever.

The Beijing leadership has a style all its own for dealing with this kind of threat. While I still harbor a deep concern about the presence and intentions of the world's largest muslim population, Indonesia, knowing that the Chinese are their close neighbors somewhat mitigates those concerns.

About hatred of the enemy both international and within: as a member of a respected and well-known Christian entity and concerned with avoiding bloodshed on both sides and paralleling my country's military tactics in wars like WWII, I have to say that the strategy which preserves as much life, both spiritual and moral, as possible is still the only method that the God of the US is allowed to follow. Reaction, against whatsoever incredible wrong is not permitted to wipe out the innocent. Consider: how many innocent people actually live among the Arabic peoples; how did they arrive at their errors, and on what planes, merely the physical?, do you intend to combat them? What propaganda, what bribery, other than mass destruction and face to face armed combat will you face their increasing numbers, their terrible threats, their sweaty arms and armpits and terrifyingly bared feet? What argument will you level against them as they seek to cut off our universal heads in a Christian-Jewish pogrom of bloodlust? Are you guys seriously thinking about all, positively all, the real alternatives to theoretical and cultural Muhammedanism?
What do you think about doing if they go to your school or sell you a newspaper, like they do here in New York? How many real experts have considered the Jihad War but not from the angle that they're something worth saving since were all going to the same Judgement? Supposing looks could kill, would you be dead right now if you were a visitor by accident, of course to a city like Mecca?

About hatred of the enemy both international and within: as a member of a respected and well-known Christian entity and concerned with avoiding bloodshed on both sides and paralleling my country's military tactics in wars like WWII, I have to say that the strategy which preserves as much life, both spiritual and moral, as possible is still the only method that the God of the US is allowed to follow. Reaction, against whatsoever incredible wrong is not permitted to wipe out the innocent. Consider: how many innocent people actually live among the Arabic peoples; how did they arrive at their errors, and on what planes, merely the physical?, do you intend to combat them? What propaganda, what bribery, other than mass destruction and face to face armed combat will you face their increasing numbers, their terrible threats, their sweaty arms and armpits and terrifyingly bared feet? What argument will you level against them as they seek to cut off our universal heads in a Christian-Jewish pogrom of bloodlust? Are you guys seriously thinking about all, positively all, the real alternatives to theoretical and cultural Muhammedanism?
What do you think about doing if they go to your school or sell you a newspaper, like they do here in New York? How many real experts have considered the Jihad War but not from the angle that they're something worth saving since were all going to the same Judgement? Supposing looks could kill, would you be dead right now if you were a visitor by accident, of course to a city like Mecca?

The hand of God has moved. Abdulaziz al-Muqrin and his followers are dead. If God had not willed it, then it would not be so. They have tasted of God's anger and will be forever punished.

Al-Qaeda will feel God's punishment too, because its followers do not follow His true teachings. They have been deceived.

I challenge all Muslims and all other believers to pray to the One True God that al-Qaeda's death may come soon, so that innocent lives may be spared.


I gotta love these yahoo's,denial and
paranoia is part of Islam,the claim that 6 of the 911 hijackers are still alive has yet to be proven because not one website has shown me a picture (recent) o0f any of them.
If you know of any proof,please post a follow up
with the http link,also,since Barbara Olsen is
reported to be alive and held by the CIA along with the other passeagers,a link to her would be nice so we can tell the consipracy-nuts to keep
the tinfoil on their head.

We may not know for sure if he is really dead or not, I of course am hoping that he is! But I think we need to take A LOT more out before the threat of these Radicals are gone totally. Until then, our eyes have to be opened here and our fingers ready to call the police on anything we find out of the ordinary.

The House of IBN Saud reaches behind their backs, just a few hours after Johnson was slaughtered, and produces three dead bad guys, including the leader.

What's wrong with this picture? Why, after having eluded the saudi security services, has the bad guys shown up, on the slab?

1. A lucky break for the police?
2. Excellent security work finally paying off?
3. The bad guys make a silly blunder-surfacing?
4. The bad guys and the regime are together?

Of course, I pick #4 because it would explain everything. It would also "silence" saudi Royal
complicity.

As has been stated earlier by Dr. Mack, its "Taqiyyah", deception...working both ends against the middle, etc. Maybe getting foreigners out of Saudi helps keep oil prices high, while placating the Religious Police of Saudi?

Okay, I can't see how ANY of the 9/11 hijackers are alive. They crashed into buildings and the entire plane blew up into pieces if that! I can't see anyone surviving that crash with all that jet fuel and how hot it was. They are trying once again to spread rumors and lies and we should not listen to a word that is said. All those people on those planes were killed along with the 9/11 bastards and they are not coming back home to their families. Personally, in my heart I would love to think that those innocent people were able to survive that impact but I realize that is not possible.

Al Qaeda spokesman just confirmed and acknowledged the death of their boy. Al M.

This comes from another thread by John A.

Thought you'd all like to know.

Can anyone explain Why they put the mans head on his back?


Is this some kind of Muslum whatever?

My heart sinks to think of what they did to our Marines I remember the reports of 4 found dismembered!! When the war started and they used white flags then attacked our Marines.

One of 10 laws God wrote and gave to the people was thow shal not lie!

This was not mans law it was Gods law and these people have Broken Gods Law!!!

How many mulsums lie???

This has seared hate in My heart!!! I will not forgive these monsters for the hate they make me feel!!


I pray for our Fighting Forces to Lighten their hearts that they Know this is a Just cause and take away the pain for what the evil enemy make them do Amen


May we Kill all these evil Monsters and those who support them!!!!

Part of the American Tribe

God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage and water to cleanes their soles for the evil they have seen Amen

Now Al Qaeda has stated that it was al Muqrin that was killed... I guess they are taking a cue from John Kerry and covering both sides of the issue... heh...

Note that the date on the Al-Farce website is Anno Domini. :)

Sorry, misspelled the link above: Al-Farce