WASHINGTON (AP) - Nabil al-Marabh was No. 27 on the FBI's list of terror suspects after Sept. 11. He trained in Afghanistan's militant camps, sent money to a roommate convicted in a foiled plot to bomb a hotel and boasted to an informant about plans to blow up a fuel truck inside a New York tunnel, FBI documents allege. The Bush administration set him free - to Syria - even though prosecutors had sought to bring criminal cases against him and judges openly expressed concerns about possible terrorist ties.Al-Marabh served an eight-month jail sentence and was sent in January to his native Syria, which is regarded by the United States as a sponsor of terrorism.
You have to wonder what is behind this.
Great. And did we just read about stolen fuel trucks somewhere? And of all places to send him, Syria. Where he likely got a hero's welcome.
I guess Bush must have started to believe all those politically correct lies he preached after Sept. 11.... "islam means peace", "Terrorists have hijacked a peaceful religion", "islam is a religion of peace", etc...
He and his cronies probably thought this guy was one of the majority of "peace-loving" muslimes that they kept preaching about.
now i am confused . is syria a friend or an ally in the war on terror?
coz i seemed to remember teh US sending terrorists to friendly regimes of egypt, saudis and syria to be softened up in torture.
nice if the good and bad guys can be separated by color codes and uniforms, for once.
yeah right after 911 we used syria to get information out of .... less the forth coming lower risk prisoners.
this of course ment torture and we obvisouly knew what we where doing when we "deported" people to syria,egypt,etc...
Check out that pic.....Get a load of the head on that thing......it looks like a basketball sittin' on a stack of dimes.
When is our Government ever going to learn that we have very, very few friends in that region. Sending this goof back to an Islamic country is like sending a demon to hell.......Perhaps the Government already does know this. With Dr. Pipes being appointed by Bush, how could they not know what lurks both over there, and inside our borders?
Just because we sent him to Syria doesn't mean he is living the good life. For all we know the syrians shot him as soon as he got off the plane. The article doesn't seem to give the whole story.
Nothing gives the whole story these days. It's a little upsetting.
Yes, here we sit ill-informed with only a fraction of the picture. I can think up LOTS of reasons to set a known despot free.
I would not be surprised that since we did not have him on a death penalty charge here, that we sent him to Syria in the hopes he would join his friends in Iraq and that he would find final justice dealt in 5.56mm doses.
It has been suggested many times, though never officially mentioned, that Iraq functions as a powerful meat grinder of Islamic Jihadists. “Better over there than over here” may not be an official strategy, but the more we take the fight to them, the harder it is for them to take the fight to us.
For all we know, Nabil was picked up in the crosshairs of a Special Forces scope last night, and is now stewing in Hell with a handful of raisins, thinking he really should have stayed in jail.
There have been stories and news rports about the US sending prisoners to to other countries for more 'vigorous' interogation. I remember a show on 60-Minutes a year or two ago about muslim terrorists in Albania/Kosovo who were captured by local police courtesy of CIA and then sent over to Egypt for 'special treatment'. It's a murky world out there and shit happens. Personally, I can't get too worked up over the 'rights' of people who want to kill other people because of a religious psychosis. People who are planning to blow up airplanes, buses, etc etc shouldn't expect the white-glove treatment.
Having said that, I don't believe that torture is an effective way to get ACCURATE information. That's been documented.
Mike H
Well, tonight's sleep has gone to hell, so I may need to post this stuff more than once, being so early...
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13626
I would guess Mr. Spencer is on top of it anyway, but anyone who had doubts about Islam being a threat should start their day with that one.
Arxos:
My eyes must be deceiving me...lobo91 just said that nagasaki and hiroshima were attacked because of military importance
Actually, I just posted factual information about those two cities that you declared weren't valid military targets. Are you saying that what I posted was false?
...but surely even americans know that they were completely flattened..civilian populations included.
As were a number of other Japanese (and German) cities, even without the use of nuclear weapons.
So what's your point?
Posted by lobo91 at June 1, 2004 11:38 PM
My point was excessive force, crimes against humanity and TERRORISM, which some people in here are trying to exclusively pin to the muslim faith-islamic militants, a ludicrous proposition to say the least. Surely you can see the hypocrisy in that?
You see such societies in the totalitarian regimes in the mid-east. They distract their populations from the pain they cause by finding a convienent scape goat. They hold onto that scape goat as long as possible. Elections there are a bad joke at best.
Kafir,
This is an extract from what you said the other day. What you say about distracting their populations by way of scapegoats is quite interesting. That can apply to the US. Scapegoats? You name them: indians, blacks, italians, communinsts and now this arabs and muslims. Beware totalitarianism has many guises...why are you so sure that we are so free? Does voting democrats or republicans really give you a choice?
If the choice was not illusionary maybe people in western democracies would not be so indifferent and depoliticized regarding issues that concern us. I distrust governments, doubt their dubious-secretive handlings and hold their self-serving motives in no esteem. My feelings will not be dictated by anyone but myself as long as I can help it.
Arxos, I notice you wait until everyone is Gone before you respond anymore. I am taking it to mean you can sit back and safely believe you won the argument by default.
If it reaches the point where islamic militants are hunting you and yours down in the streets (and I hope it never does but people like you make it easy for them), I hope you remember everything you falsely claimed here.
Arxxos:
Re: "What you say about distracting their populations by way of scapegoats is quite interesting. That can apply to the US. Scapegoats? You name them: indians, blacks, italians, communinsts and now this arabs and muslims. Beware totalitarianism has many guises...why are you so sure that we are so free? Does voting democrats or republicans really give you a choice? "
Indians and blacks are not scapegoats in the USA. Get real! Italians???? What does the US blame Italians for? Bad pasta???? Communists? They weren't scapegoats, they were actual enemies that had to be defeated, and that were defeated. Arabs and muslims? They're not scapegoats, they are a culture that contains a large number of people who are pissed off at the world and want to use violence against civilians to achieve their goals. Most muslims are ordinary decent people who just happen to be born into their world. However, the cultural context of the islamic world, spec. the arab-muslim world is a breeding ground for hate and aggression towards the West. No, the USA did not cause their problems. That's jus t their rationalization for not facing up to the structural problems of their world that they need to fix themselves.
I for one do not feel guilty about being an American. Frankly, I like being a Yank.
As for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, from another thread: yes, very sad for the civilian population. But Japan started the war, and don't forget the Rape of Nanking. After Okinawa the Us had only to look forward to a long and nasty invasion of Japan. If the bombs saved one American life they were worth it. They aslo saved a lot of Japanese lives if the invasion had occurred.
Also, the only reason that Japan is now a respected member of the world community is because they were forced into an UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER, which allowed a complete restructuring of their society (including the rights of women for the first time).
Get over your bad attitude towards the US and apply it to people who really deserve it; i.e. islamic fascists.
Mike H
Well, I see that the city of the Angels caved in and are gonna take the cross off their cities seal.
I also see that Fox news was running on their bottom marquee that Bush said in his speech (something like) "this is not a clash of cultures, nor a fight of religion, its a political fight".
Reminded me of a cartoon I once seen, where these Arabs had these people on the chopping block, with one head already in the basket below. And he was saying to the missionaries (?) "This IS our religion - Why are you persecuting us?"
When is someone gonna get to our President and get him to wake up to the fact that it is a religious war.
The way I see it - your Muslim neighbor will live side beside you until he is called on to be a true fundalmentist and obey the Quran and rise up and kill you - then you realize they are 'sleeper' agents.
Did anyone see on the news part of the 700 club where (over seas)they now have 'Condum Ambulancies'.
Where was all this sex when I was in school. I must have slept thru most of the revolution ;^)
Kiethjoy- Catherine isn't the brightest poster on this site, trust me I know. But that gives you no right to call her such names. Stop the bullying, it is uncalled for. She is allowed to have her own beliefs just as you are, and for you to call her names and badger her is just making you look like the ingnorant one.
Jen! there you are. *g* I know Bob gave you a hard time last night, but was hoping you would come back.
Would you believe Keith is (I think?) on your side, more or less? At least as far as left-or-right leaning.
As I said elsewhere, I think we all may need to develope thick skins before this War is over with. (as in, War on Terror)
No I went to bed last night and didn't see what Bob wrote until earlier this morning. Kieth, well waht can I say about him? He may be on my side (?) but he's going about it in all the wrong way. He's acting just like Bob. And that kind of utter meanness is wrong and uncalled for.
Jen:
I gladly pass on the Dr. Phil baton to you! :-)
lol, that's all I have to say. : )
"WHAAAAT???? The Bush administration set a terrorist free?"
Yep, Dubya's guys dropped the ball on this one keithjoy. No doubt about that. But PLEASE don't bring up the spectre of what would have happened if Gore was in the White House.
His last speech scared everyone I've talked to, both Democrat and Republican, lib and neocon. I'm not sure what has happened to him, but he is far removed from the guy that ran a good election in 2000.
Once again Bush screwed up. I am getting more disgusted with his administration every day. I will not be voting for him come November.
I read The Onion today (www.theonion.com), and they had a dead-on article about the presidential election. Like abad seems to say, a lot of people don't seem to be voting for a president this time around, they are voting against a candidate.
Who will screw things up the most? What a wonderful way to decide our leaders...
Nabil, I told you not to press your face against the window of the lingerie shop for too long.
I'm of the same inclination as the above posters who theorize that this guy was sent to Syria because their "interrogation methods" are so much more effective than panty hats or butt pyramids.
Some of you sound like rats jumping off a sinking ship. The ship is not sinking, this is a tense time and there's a lot not being said or publicized due to the upcoming elections. Remember that Bush is not in charge alone and remember the caliber of his advisors (keithjoy's obvious opinion and forthcoming rant notwithstanding - BTW, love ya, keithjoy :-)). He's on a tightrope right now for various reasons and a little wobble is to be expected now and then. Have faith, guys - it's the best we've got right now, anyway. There could be WORSE leadership.
You know, all this talk of voting against a candidate is going to end up giving Kerry the helm of our presidency. I truly hope that never happens. I'm not one prone to being afraid of much, but Kerry in charge of our security certainly scares me. There is alot going on behind the scenes in our government. The Bush Administration has done more to setup the infrustructure of our terrorist fighting abilities. It's not perfect, but it's better than anything we've had before, and seems to be improving. Kerry, if elected will make shady deals with our least favorite foreign nations in attempt to bribe these islamoterrorists into peace, spending your money and mine to do so. And in the end, the islamos will take the aid and run, only to kill babies in their cribs, and students on their buses, old folks out for a walk. I hope Bush catches on, but I sure wouldn't want Kerry in there.
We probably won't catch him again...