It's no wonder that people dance around charred corpses when Islamic radical leaders have attitudes like those expressed in the latest issue of "Sawt Al-Jihad" (Voice of Jihad). Note the consistent use of religious language, which is just another indication of the deep religious motives that underlie attacks like these.
From an interview with Fawwaz bin Muhammad Al-Nashami, who led the Khobar attacks of May 29, in a translation from MEMRI (thanks to Jerry Gordon):
"The infidel's clothing was torn to shreds, and he was naked in the street. The street was full of people, as this was during work hours, and everyone watched the infidel being dragged, praise and gratitude be to Allah. ..."The brothers had exchanged fire with the patrols, all the while shouting, 'Allah Akbar,' and 'There is no God but Allah.'" ...
"The four of us entered the company together. We met the Arab clerks, and greeted them. We asked them: 'Where are the Americans?' They were all in shock, and said: 'What's going on? Who are you?' We told them, 'We are Mujahideen, and we want the Americans. We have not come to aim a weapon at the Muslims, but to purge the Arabian Peninsula, according to the will of our Prophet Muhammad, of the infidels and the polytheists who are killing our brothers in Afghanistan and Iraq. We want you to show us where they are.'"
What's that? You read the learned pundits saying that this idea that Arabia must be purged of non-Muslims is not really an Islamic religious tenet, but a cover for political goals? Look again. It was among the Prophet's dying wishes:
Ibn 'Abbas said, "Thursday! What (great thing) took place on Thursday!" Then he started weeping till his tears wetted the gravels of the ground . Then he said, "On Thursday the illness of Allah's Apostle was aggravated and he said, "Fetch me writing materials so that I may have something written to you after which you will never go astray." The people (present there) differed in this matter and people should not differ before a prophet. They said, "Allah's Apostle is seriously sick.' The Prophet said, "Let me alone, as the state in which I am now, is better than what you are calling me for." The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, "Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula, respect and give gifts to the foreign delegates as you have seen me dealing with them." I forgot the third (order)" (Ya'qub bin Muhammad said, "I asked Al-Mughira bin 'Abdur-Rahman about the Arabian Peninsula and he said, 'It comprises Mecca, Medina, Al-Yama-ma and Yemen." Ya'qub added, "And Al-Arj, the beginning of Tihama.") (Sahih Bukhari, vol. 4, book 52, no. 288)
Back to Fawwaz bin Muhammad Al-Nashami and his acts of devotion:
"We entered one of the companies' [offices], and found there an American infidel who looked like a director of one of the companies. I went into his office and called him. When he turned to me, I shot him in the head, and his head exploded. We entered another office and found one infidel from South Africa, and our brother Hussein slit his throat. We asked Allah to accept [these acts of devotion] from us, and from him. This was the South African infidel. ..."We turned to the third site, which was the most fortified center of all the compounds. Our plan was to remain in the car until we were alongside the American Hummer. When we were next to it, the brothers appeared from the windows [of the car] and began shouting 'Allah Akbar,' and shooting them. And I saw the skull of the soldier standing behind the machine gun explode before my eyes. Allah be praised. I think the driver was also killed. ...
A little later on these religious fellows got in a bit of preaching:
"We went to one of the buildings. Brother Nimr, may Allah's mercy be upon him, shoved the door until it opened. We entered and in front of us stood many people. We asked them their religion, and for identification documents. We used this time for Da'wa [preaching Islam], and for enlightening the people about our goal. We spoke with many of them."At the same time, we found a Swedish infidel. Brother Nimr cut off his head, and put it at the gate [of the building] so that it would be seen by all those entering and exiting.
No doubt that was sure to win them some converts. Note the beheading and, below, the throat slitting. What happened to Pearl and Berg is common practice.
"We continued in the search for the infidels, and we slit the throats of those we found among them. At the same time, we heard the sound of the patrols and the gathering [of the security personnel] outside. These cowards did not dare to enter. About 45 minutes or an hour had passed since the beginning of the operation."We began to comb the site looking for infidels. We found Filipino Christians. We cut their throats and dedicated them to our brothers the Mujahideen in the Philippines. [Likewise], we found Hindu engineers and we cut their throats too, Allah be praised. That same day, we purged Muhammad's land of many Christians and polytheists.
Read the whole thing. These are common attitudes.
Very simply -- they are evil and must be destroyed! Eventually, even Spain will come to this realization. And, unfortunately, in order to destroy them thousands (millions?) of civilians will have to be killed as well. No more ground troops. A maniacal crowd has gathered? Send a plane or helicopter to shoot a missile at them and collateral damage be damned!
The part that really got me was when he talks about stopping to have lunch.
There is no humanity in these ......... at all.
I have come from a very liberal thinker, to, kill them all, let God sort them out.
It would be good if the full MEMRI article were to be emailed, faxed, mailed to Congressmen, or rather to the members of their staff who specialize in security and foreign policy matters. And if among such people there are those willing to listen, willing to educate themselves (one can probably skip the staff of Senator Kennedy, or Senator Harkin -- but who knows?), it would be good to create a core of younger staff, and then of Congressmen, who will relentlessly attempt to educate their colleagues about the tenets of Islam, and to point out that the problem is world-wide, and hardly confined to the MIddle East, nor to be solved with the coin of appeasement (in Iraq, or with even further concessions by Israel which would amount to throwing it to the wolves). It is the most difficult issue because there is no country or group of countries that are the "enemy," but an ideology, and an ideology that is called a "religion" by many (which allows it to be wrapped in a cloak of deceptive respectability). There are some Muslims who are, as that tiresome adjective puts it, "moderate" -- but how many? And in what does their "moderation" consist? And how many Muslims who seemed, for a long period, to be "moderate" or even indifferent to their belief-system, who were suddenly set off, regained their interest, and with a fanatic passion that led them to all sorts of places -- Afghanistan, Iraq, the entry to the Madrid subway, or like the utterly bourgeois Mohammad Atta, to a little airport in Portland, Maine, where he was photographed as he was about to board, ready to get on a still bigger plane at Logan in Boston, and then take that plane -- where we know he took it.
This is report is clearly describing episodes of mental illness. The murderers are quite literally insane and delusional. There is no reasoned plan or thought out end game here. Not even a hint. Hitler at least could be appeased for a season... they are on the war path. Its 'kill or be killed' time. Our care should only be that we stop only the murderers. ..but how do we sort them from the maddened mobs? Do we send in shrinks with their clipboards and ink blots and survey the every male in the middle east? Did the WW2 Bomber Command interview the non-coms of Dresden and Hamburg to be able to target only the true Nazis?
To Hugh:
What we are fighting is a religious ideology. And it's a religious ideology that anyone can convert to, no-one can ever leave, and which if one condemns gets one called a "bigot".
If one compares Islam with Nazism, then moderate muslims are just nicer nazis as far as I'm concerned.
Islam displays every facet of a cult and spreads only by murder and the fear of murder.
In respoonse to NoMoreJihad's cult mention:
Ten marks of a cult (from rickross.com)
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
Mullahs and imams have God's authority in their hands, as did Muhammad.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
People like Salman Rushdie, Irshad Manji, and thousands of others being apostatized and sentenced to death.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
Not so much applicable to Islam, but I'm sure not too many Islamic countries keep tabs on their zakat money.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
Do I even need to mention the unholy conspiratorial tripod of Zionist-Crusader-Polytheist? (Which, by the way, neatly blankets pretty much every ideology besides Islam.)
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
I have heard scores of instances of Muslims claiming that real apostates of Islam do not exist, that the ones we hear about are Zionist dupes or double agents. Moreover, the portrayal of apostates as evil is rampant throughout the Muslim world.
6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
See various websites, including FaithFreedom, Apostates of Islam, and others.
7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
Watch the news, pretty much any day of the week. I'm pretty sure there's going to be some sort of Islamic atrocity on there somewhere. Recent events include the decapitation of an elderly Buddhist man in Thailand, attempts to blow up an Ohio mall, and jihadists in Israel collecting dismembered corpses.
8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
The concept of salvation in Islam (the ledger concept) leads to desperate young people becoming martyrs, which is the only sure way into Heaven. (And out of Hell.)
9. The group/leader is always right.
Go back in time and publicly disagree with Muhammad. I double-dare you. Or, write a satirical book called "The Satanic Verses", and watch a wave of believers from England to the Philippines call for your blood.
10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
Islam reputedly trumps all previous Judeo-Christian religion, rendering them invalid. Moreover, all non-Abrahamic religions are inherently false and evil.
Islam has declared war on the non-islamic world. Are we not fast approaching the justification of purging the Western World of Islam?
See: Islam, Middle East and Fascism by Umberto Eco
http://www.secularislam.org/articles/facism.htm
Nomorejihad, RIGHT ON!
Ananda, very informative.
Java:
Millions of muslims have had their lives wasted and destroyed for the last 1600 years by this evil cult.
Maybe a war between Islam and the West,is the best thing that could happen to them. Since the abolision of Islam is the only way in which they can be free.
SO
The Neutron Bomb Plan against Terrorist States by Wilson C. Lucom - former assistant to U.S. Secretary of State Stentenius
Here is the Lucom Plan to save the United States from being destroyed as a great nation by worldwide terrorism. It could also save your life if the terrorists struck in your neighborhood.
President Bush and Congress must realize the very survival of the United States as a great nation is now at stake. The United States will not survive unless President Bush and Congress take action now before there is another terrorist strike. This could be one of the last strikes against the U.S.
How could the terrorists accomplish this final tall order? They could strike Boulder Dam, causing a huge power shortage. Even more deadly would be poisoning the water supply of New York City with the lethal bacterium anthrax. It is not widely known that anthrax is a silent, deadly killer. One hundred million lethal doses per gram (a teaspoonful) is 100,000 times more deadly than the most deadly chemical warfare weapon. (Time Almanac, 2001)
Anthrax could easily kill up to 6 or 7 million people in New York City alone, which would cause the stock market to lose another trillion dollars and plunge the United States into a depression. The U.S. would be finished as a great nation. An anthrax attack may be the next planned strike on the U.S. and it would be disastrous. It is reported that Osama bin Laden, Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea have anthrax. This is the deadly reason why terrorists must be stopped before they strike with anthrax.
Part 1 of Lucom Plan - Neutron Bomb
Instead of being "politically correct," President Bush must be like the great Harry Truman, who was "politically incorrect" in having the courage to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, immediately ending World War II and saving thousands of American soldiers' lives. President Bush must immediately drop the neutron bomb, ending the terrorist war immediately. He must drop the neutron bomb instead of allowing the war to continue, which would keep his high approval ratings but let hundreds of thousands of American soldiers be killed unnecessarily.
Psychologically, the threat of an action is almost as effective as the action itself. Bush should at least threaten to use the neutron bomb to isolate the nations that protect terrorism from the nations that support the United States.
President Bush has to have foresight, or the U.S. is lost forever. He has to choose to be a great president like Harry Truman and drop the neutron bomb, saving thousands of American soldiers' lives. He must not waste more precious time trying to build a weak coalition of those nations that support the United States in name only. They do not support the U.S. with their military forces, which means they will strongly oppose attacking any nations that harbor terrorists.
President Bush does not need the consent of the U.N. or any Arab nations in a coalition to defend the U.S. against terrorist attack. President Bush must defend the U.S. first before any more terrorist attacks can occur. This is why the Lucom Plan must be used. The more Bush delays, attempting to build the tenuous coalition, the more time he gives the terrorists for more attacks on the U.S. It is believed that the State Department is giving Bush bad advice, not the Department of Defense.
How can you stop this terrorism? Join our movement to get President Bush and Congress to use the Lucom Plan. The Lucom Plan would put an end to terrorism not just in one country but wherever it exists. Neutron-bomb them first – before they attack the U.S. again. Otherwise the war against terrorism could continue for 10 years at great cost to the United States in huge war taxes and the loss of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers' lives. This must be avoided. It is hoped Bush wants to save these soldiers' lives. Truman did!
To exist, terrorism needs a country from which it can operate and in which it can be protected. This delay gives the terrorists enough time to kill millions of Americans and eventually destroy the United States. President Bush must first hold a public war trial in the United States, charging all terrorists, either by name or as John and Jane Doe, as being evil and condemning them to death. The terrorists, after all, condemned to death without a trial over 6.000 Americans in the Twin Towers terrorist attack. If another terrorist attack appears imminent, Bush must use the neutron bomb without waiting for the trial to end.
President Bush must tell any country harboring and protecting the terrorists that they are condemned to death and the U.S. demands their immediate extradition to carry out the death sentence. Otherwise, the terrorists will strike again. Bush must tell any harboring country that if it refuses to turn over the terrorists it is collaterally guilty with the terrorists, and the United States will immediately drop the neutron bomb on it until it no longer exists as a nation. This is what Harry Truman would have done. This takes leadership in the best interest of the U.S., not the followership of the Arab nations.
The United States will drop the neutron bomb on all nations that harbor terrorists. It is far cheaper and will cost far fewer lives of American troops than a ground war. Not one American soldier would be killed. The harboring country would be bombed as Japan was bombed. If Iraq or another terrorist-supporting country was bombed, the other harboring countries would get the message and oust all terrorists, leaving them nowhere to go. They would be turned over to the U.S. for carrying out the death sentence or cease to operate. Even if not turned over, they would have no home base to gather and plan future attacks, so they would be out of business. The Lucom Plan is the most competent, efficient way to end terrorism in a short time – wherever it exists.
Part 2 of Lucom Plan
If President Bush wants to simultaneously try a nonviolent plan (because Gen. Powell said war is evil and all nonviolent ways must first be tried), here is the Worldwide Organized Voters Ending War Nonviolent Plan.
President Bush and Congress should offer $1 billion for the capture of Osama bin Laden and any other terrorist leaders. A protracted war could cost up to $500 billion. World War II, at today's prices, cost $486 billion, with over 1 million American soldiers killed and injured. What a horrible cost! Compared to $486 billion, this billion-dollar reward is minute. It is a very small amount to the U.S. government, whose 2001 annual budget is $1.3 trillion. The U. S. government can easily offer this billion-dollar reward for the capture of terrorists. Even if five terrorist leaders were caught, it is still a minute amount to pay out compared to $500 billion a protracted war could cost.
President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Congress are absolutely against offering such a large reward, but they are very wrong. Such a huge reward would shorten any war considerably, saving hundreds of thousands of American soldiers' lives. President Bush and Congress must try to save the lives of American soldiers by offering the billion-dollar reward.
Osama bin Laden has laid a clever trap for President Bush. He wants Bush to use American troops. This is pitting Christian non-Muslim infidels against Muslin troops, uniting the Muslim countries against the United States and probably starting World War III. Bush can evade this bin Laden trap by hiring or else supplying Muslim troops like Afghanistan's Northern Military Alliance. He should supply them with guns, ammunition, Stingers and other war equipment to defeat the Taliban. Thus, Bush will have evaded the bin Laden trap by having Muslims fighting against Muslims. The $1 billion reward would really motivate them.
It is reported there are over 200,000 Iranian soldiers on the border of Afghanistan because Iran worries that Afghanistan might use the guided missiles it is developing against Iran. If the billion-dollar reward were also offered to these Iranian troops, Osama bin Laden and other terrorists would soon be caught.
In this nonviolent way, up to 1 million American soldiers will not be killed or injured. This is why the nonviolent Plan should be tried simultaneously with the violent Plan. Either way, under the Lucom Plan the United States ends the terrorist war soon.
If Bush delays too long consulting the U.N. and possible future Arab enemies by trying to build a tenuous coalition, kiss the United States goodbye as a great nation. President Bush has been reacting instead of vigorously, determinedly acting in the best interest of the United States. Terrorism must be stopped before it can again attack the United States. The Lucom Plan does this. Voters should contact their senators and congressmen urging the adoption of the Lucom Plan, including the billion-dollar reward offered by the president.
Wilson C. Lucom is a former assistant to U.S. Secretary of State Stentenius.
I'm afraid that what I read here is correct.
We are quckly on our way as a country, perhaps as a world... to the justification of the extinction of Islam.
Sad perhaps, that in perpetually committing acts of horror and murder on the world, in seeking to spread thier faith...the muslims are actually shortening it.
If only the Soviet Union had not crushed the growing movement of Jaddidism among Asian Sunnis in the 1920s`we may have seen an Islam that could have accelerated and assimilated itself into the 20th century or at least the flame of modern Islam may have had some chance to bring itself into the civilized and modern world.
Even the Roman Catholic Church is guilty of trying to hold back the emergence of freedom and Democracy 100 years ago, fearing that it would lead to some kind of anarchy in the world.
Thus all is not lost to this Islamic Ideology that is still there to be dusted off in the deep bowels of many mosques. Our battle is with the authoritarians of Syria,Iran, and Saudia Arabia. Their support of all these terrorist cells has to be eradicated every way possible.
Posted by Nieuwenhuizen at June 15, 2004 03:08 PM
Anthrax could easily kill up to 6 or 7 million people in New York City alone, which would cause the stock market to lose another trillion dollars and plunge the United States into a depression. The U.S. would be finished as a great nation. An anthrax attack may be the next planned strike on the U.S. and it would be disastrous. It is reported that Osama bin Laden, Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea have anthrax. This is the deadly reason why terrorists must be stopped before they strike with anthrax.
What you don't filter your water??
What a nutty lib you are!! You have not been keeping up on current events??
Called the 2nd add. go buy a gun make your self feel better
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
PS Libs always scream when they feel fear but what do they do about it complain??
The reason that so many of the muslim extremists are like murderous primates is because that behavior is called for in the quran. I have been reading the book of hate. Satanic writings do not express as much evil, selfishness and death. I have read about a tenth of it so far and find that mohamad was a mentaly twisted and probably sexually disfuntional individual.
His teachings are geared to those on the edge of extreme criminaly impulsive behavior. In providing those followers with the teachings he said it's ok to act out any sick inhuman impulse that comes into your puny little mind, just direct it toward some one that is not a muslim. Even if the victim is a muslim it's acceptable as long as you accuse them of some crime against islam before or quickly after you butcher them.
Just look at the they murder other mulims because the are not extreme enough in their worship of Mohamad and the all powerful allah.
If allah is all powerful why does he need the help of the mentally handicaped to kill his enemies.
Why is it that this "religion" was started by a man with the mentality of an agry teenager who was teased by girls about his penis size? The actions of his followers remind me of those of the two sick young men that perpetrated the colimbine massacre.
Killing all those who were smarter, more popular. more masculine or better hung than they were. Then after murdering them killed themselfs in an attempt to hide the truth about them selves. That they were ZEROS who were to lazy and puny of soul better themselves. Kind of reminds of a suicide bomber.
Now about destroying islam, Nieuwenhiuzen get a grip. There are two ways to destroy cults and niether is the neutron bomb. One is to show clearly what a sham the hole thing is. The other is to tell the truth about the leaders of that cult. Since the media is making so much money on all the bad news that these misled twerps generate. The media is the biggest culprit in all of this. Because the tell only the truth as it pertains to their ratings and profits. Being that widespread truth as to the lies of Mohamad and all the discusting little con men that have presented those lies to the unenlightend little boys of the middle east for the last few centuries( ever see an imam starving or poor) is not forth coming any time soon, we have another option. It will probably turn out to be our only reasonable way of defeating the mulims with out a full on bloody religious war. A war I dont want my children stuck with. That option is to arm every woman on earth that has been abused or has been a victim of puny minded men like the taliban or any muslim for that matter and let them have a field day with them.
We are talking about men who can be humiliated in to commiting murder by the slightest little expression of a womans intellegence. Men with so little self control that if a woman is not covered by a burqua he wont be able to control himself. Men that are so pithetic and lacking in confidence that they must keep a woman beat down at all times for fear of her being a better man than than them(so to speak). There for dishonering him. All I can say is woman are incredible creatures. No not women like Nancy Pelosi, women like Margaret Thatcher, Harriet Tubman,Laura Bush, Joan Of Arc, Oprah Winfrey Nancy Reagan, my wife. Thats just to mention a very very few. When put to the test strong women are unbeatable. And the mulims are doing just that. If the the selfish little minded teenage boys of the middle east want a fight let them threaten the peace of strong organized women and that will just be the beginning.
If you want a fight raise your hand to a woman or a child in the presence of a MAN, especilly this man and all those MEN he knows and you will die for it. There I feel better.
Sharkey
The threats cited in the above post are those of a madman.
Anthrax is no credible threat to the New York Water Supply. Sheer water volume alone would dilute a tanker-truckload to benign levels.
It is also next to impossible for muslim terrorists to amass enough explosives and deomolition know-how to blow any major dam. If anyone wants proof, let me know and I'll bore you with why that is.
As for causing a depression, keep in mind that war is good for the economy, and WW2 is part of the reason we pulled out of the FDR-lengthened Great Depression.
What a nutjob.