But obviously this work of memorization didn't make him non-violent. From the New York Post, with thanks to Nicolei:
IN recent months, he has been the world's second- most active terrorist, his roll call of atrocities eclipsed only by that of the ubiquitous Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.But this past weekend, Abdulaziz Al-Muqrin, al Qaeda's chief of operations for the Arabian Peninsula, upped the ante considerably in his jihad against the West.
In a statement issued on several Islamist Web sites, Al-Muqrin's group has claimed responsibility for the murder of one American, Kenneth Scroggs, and kidnapping of another, Lockheed Martin employee Paul Johnson, in Riyadh on Saturday.
Al-Muqrin, also known as "Abu Hajar," seems hell-bent on upholding his recent pledge to make this summer "bloody and miserable for infidels."
Just last week, he vowed through an Islamist Web site that al Qaeda would target Western airlines, military bases and residential compounds in "the near future." And on May 29, he claimed responsibility for the chaotic assault on Western oil facilities in the Saudi city of Khobar that killed 22 people, including one American. ...
Al-Muqrin is suspected of having engineered suicide bombings in Riyadh in May and November 2003 that took 53 lives (including nine Americans) and is thought to have been the architect of an April 21 attack in the Saudi capital that killed five people and wounded 148. And he claimed responsibility for a May 1 shooting spree in the Saudi oil center of Yanbu that killed six Westerners and one Saudi.
According to Al-Muqrin, the Yanbu attack, like the one in Khobar, was designed to stem the flow of Saudi oil, thereby harming the country's economy. ...
It is unclear how the Saudi government will deal with Al-Muqrin, if it catches him. In 1997, after being extradited to Saudi Arabia by Ethiopian authorities, Al-Muqrin was sentenced to eight years in prison. But the Saudi Interior Ministry released him in the summer of 2001, reportedly because he had memorized the Koran while behind bars.
Why you dont talk about your OWN terrorists like Bush or Sharon ??? what is the difference between al qaeda terrorists and your own terrorists ? opps, they both kill innocent civilians but your terrorists kill MORE muslims than al qaeda kill westerners.
let us not forget the 18,000 innocent IRAQI MUSLIMS killed so far by the BARABRIC AMERICAN TERRORIST ARMY, let us NOT forget the torture and the death of hundreds of muslims in US jails in iraq and elsewhere !
Let us not forget the SADISTIC Israeli crimes against the palestineans:
http://www.koshertaxscam.com/atroc
As bin laden said in his last speech:
''What happened in September 11 and March 11 is your own merchandise coming back to you. We hereby advise you ... that your definition of us and of our actions as terrorism is nothing but a definition of yourselves by yourselves, since our reaction is of the same kind as your act. Our actions are a reaction to yours, which are destruction and killing of our people as is happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine.
By what measure of kindness are your killed considered innocents while ours are considered worthless? By what school [of thought] is your blood considered blood while our blood is water?
"Therefore, it is [only] just to respond in kind, and the one who started it is more to blame..."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0415-05.htm
I dont support or agree with what bin laden is doing or with Alqaeda, Islam forbids killing innocent civilians, but what he said is what ALL muslims feel, UNTIL THE KILLINGS OF MUSLIMS STOP, SADLY, THE KILLINGS OF WESTERNERS WILL CONTINUE.
GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR LAND, STOP SUPPORTING THE ISRAELI TERRORISM, STOP SUPPORTING OUR DICTATORS AND OUR TYRANNTS...TAKE ALL OUR OIL AND JUST LEAVE US ALONE, TO HELL WITH YOU AND WITH YOUR DEMON-CRASY
Released because he had memorised the Koran…..LOL if the situations wasn’t so serious this would be hilarious… I can see it now …Abdul has just butchered 2 people and should get life….but because he has memorised the Koran… he will be released…like that’s gonna help his sick evil behaviour.
The truth of it is that various echelons of hierarchy in Saudi are in cahoots with the terrorists. They ensure these people get off because they have sympathy with their cause.
So I have a question? Why are the terrorist trying to cut off the hand that feeds it…are they like going on hunger strike?
One wonders why Saladin here isn't upset that Saddam murdered at Least 2 million in the past 30 years. Not to mention that the '18,000' figure is a highly-disputed number, and many of those who died, died because of Saladins friends hiding behind them, blowing them up, murdering them for working with the US forces. Islamists killing their own, for what? So Iraq could go right back to the Saddam types or worse.
Actually the one who started it was the founder of Islam who began the jihad at the beginning which continues to this day. *HE* started the killing and mutilations, kidnappings and plunderings and enslavement that continue to this day in Indonesia, Sudan, everywhere in the world the Muslims go to live and try to force people to their way of life. Muslims are destroying Christian churches in Indonesia, Egypt, Eastern Europe and that is OK, but one tile on a mosque is damaged and there is a huge outcry. The question you do not ask is when will Muslims stop killing Muslims and when will Muslims stop torturing other Muslims? Why isn't OBL upset about that which is far more prevalent than any non-Muslim defense against Islam. Saddam used chemical weapons on ***Muslims*** and this was no big deal to OBL. In Afghanistan under the Taliban a Muslim woman had a very sick 3 year old and ran to the hospital on her own with her sick little Muslim boy because she had no male relative. So did the Muslim Taliban help her to the hospital? No, the Muslim Taliban beat the Muslim woman and her Muslim child died in her arms. All we heard during the sanctions was about the dying children of Iraq and now come to find out that Saddam was getting millions under the table and could have easily fed and given medical care to all those Iraqi children but no...it served his purpose to "victimize" Muslims by the bad West. The Muslim country leaders in the Middle East could EASILY go into the Palestinian area and build houses and schools and hospitals...that place could have surpassed Israel in wealth...but no...it served their political purpose to keep the Palestinians in abject poverty in refugee camps sacrificing their children as homicide bombers who stand in front of baby carriages and blow infants faces off.
If Muslims stopped their fighting which began with Mohammed and stopped trying to impose their cult on the world through violence and feigned victimization and took responsibility for their own lives then the West could stop having to defend itself. However, that is the core of Islam...violent takeover of the world...so the West and China and Russia and every other non-Muslim will continue to oppose Muslims and Islam.
Muslims kill Muslims and non-Muslims and are always the victim. It is a cult of death and destruction that glorifies mass murderers and sacrifices their own children in the fires of bombs...while the mullahs and leaders live in opulence and build more palaces while maintaining the victimization of their large illiterate populations. Don't look to the West for the source of your misery...your own leaders and clerics maintain your misery to build their personal empires.
'Thousands held by US in secret lockups'
Friday 18 June 2004, 8:28 Makka Time, 5:28 GMT
Many detention centres 'fail to meet obligations under US law'
The United States is holding thousands of suspects at more than two dozen detention centres, half of which operate in secret, says a leading US human-rights group.
The revelation comes as a CIA contractor is charged with assaulting an Afghan detainee who later died of his injuries.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EF07FE60-A288-4814-8179-EC4716D740F2.htm
The saudi government supports terrorists...however when those terrorists threaten the oil, which is the key to their wealth...I think we all know where they will side...they may support islamic terror, but they support living like rich playboys even more.
Saladin wants to know:
what is the difference between al Qaeda terrorists and your own terrorists?
Well, first off, Saladin, we don’t target civilians like your side does. True, civilians do get killed in the confusion and heat of battle, especially in urban areas, but that is not our goal. We target enemy soldiers, weapons caches, and other military targets. You on the other hand, think it is fine to kill innocent women and children. You are the terrorists. Our soldiers are just soldiers.
Second, we are there to liberate a people that have been under the boot of a dictator, and to give them an alternative form of government where their voices can be heard. This is opposite of your idea, which is to replace a secular dictatorship that raped, killed and terrorized its people, with a theocratic dictatorship that rapes, kills and terrorizes its people.
Before September 11, we probably would have been more likely to let you have your way, destroying your own culture as you have always done.
Unfortunately, your ignorant al Qaeda and Taliban friends made the mistake of trying to use their 7th Century dogma to take on a 21st Century global economic and military power.
The outcome is a forgone conclusion.
You see, our military presence is just the tip of the proverbial spear. Despite the propaganda, we know that your terrorist leaders live in fear, from bin Laden to al Sadr. They are failing, their men are dying by the dozens, and fewer are willing to step in and take their place. Your military Jihad is dying, and everyone knows it. With every desparate suicide bombing you lose a Jihadist and create dozens against your cause.
After our military work is done we will have left Muslims with something they have not dared dream of: a chance at freedom. Do you actually think an Iraqi would rather be ground under the heel of thugs again once he has had a chance to determine his own fate? Freedom is the genie that cannot be forced back into the bottle. Politically, the Muslim moderates are winning, and the Jihadists are losing terribly.
Culturally, the war was over long ago. This is what incited bin Laden to such rage against us. He knows that the poorly documented ramblings of an illiterate desert thief could not stand the Marketplace of Ideas, where thinking is encouraged. Like shadows in sunlight, Radical Islam cannot stand the light of truth, self-reflection, and logic.
As peoples are granted their freedom, radical Islam withers. As people are allowed access to other cultures, the bankruptcy and emptiness of theocratic Islamic society is shown to be more and more empty.
It isn’t a matter of who will when or loose.
It is simply a matter of when you will realize that your cause is already lost.
Wow, Bluewisteria, well said!
Your post describes a cult with an almost unimaginable ridgidity and heartless self-serving policy.....
Surely the US has made mistakes,acted badly, made the wrong choices, perhaps some based on short-term thinking, ignoring the long-term consequences. Our leaders even do that within the nation and all governments are guilty of self-serving policies.
But what you describe. That bull headed, arrogant fundamentalist ridgidity that allows men in power, backed by religious power over others, to beat a woman for whatever reason, let alone that she was trying to help her young, (I cringe when I see animals behave that way on the Discover channel) - just makes me FURIOUS.
And they behave like that with such a self-righteous arrogance, working for the man, the BIG man, Mo and Allah, blessed by them to murder, steal, whip and torture - all for the good of the human race.
Because they are totally convinced that they have a straight line to the Creator of all, that they KNOW all there is to know, and it is written and nothing shall stop them from acting on this KNOWLEDGE, that no amount of evidence can ever convince them to up-date or change.
That men like that possess no hesitation, no empathy for that woman and her sick child - the law is the law - and you should happily see your child die, rather than break the law of Sharia, Allah's law, woman! who is not of much more value than a donkey in Allah's eyes.
Ah, don't get me started....
Why? It's just another gutless Jihadist...
Saladin:
That redickulous website you posted showing "Israeli" atrocities was distinctly flawed.
First off, the pictures posted on that site contained just as many Israeli victims as palestinian victims (I happen to know one of the gentlemen in the picture carrying a "palestinian victim" he was a seargant in the gevati brigade) As for the father an son shot dead by Israeli soldiers in the crossfire...the incident took place in the neighborhood of Beit Sheiba, next to Bethelhem. The reason that Israeli soldiers had moved into Beit Sheiba was that Palistinian militants had set up heavy weaponry in homes to fire on the occupants of the neighborhood of Gilo, just across the valley. When they did not heed to the demands of the IDF to withdraw these weapons, they of course were active combatants and subject to be destroyed. Instead of surrender, they opted for a running gun battle that ended up with several dozen militants occupying the Church of the Nativity. Those same militants set fires in the courtyard to keep warm and ended up damaging the structure minimally. I can keep going on about the inaccuracies in these sites that preach Israeli atrocities, yet for people like you, there seems little hope that I can get through to you.
So all I have to say in essence is that you should go over to the territories and see for yourself what is really going on there before you believe some nutjob website preaching the entirely wrong message. If you are in doubt, go to Gilo and see that the entire neighborhood is ringed with bullet screens (which totally obscure the beautiful valley below). Go to Gaza and see your friends firing on anything that moves in the contruction zones. Go to Hiafa and see how Hezbollah militants engage IDF soldiers on a daily basis and observe as you are traveling north there are pickets in the ground warning you that you are now within range of Katusha rockets. All in all, I would like to give you a piece of advice "It is better to let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
One more thing, as for the $3 Billion aid package given to Israel each year by the US, another $2 Billion is given to Egypt as part of the Camp David Accords
This is the whole problem with Islam. Its adherents refuse to actually converse with people. They preach just fine, but when it comes to backing up what they say, all they have is one lie atop another. Question anything and you get the usual semantic diahrria (sp). Saladin, don't you know that you look like a fool because you can never back up your claims? You sound like just another desert crazy who wants to foist his sick fantasies on all of us. We don't want your pediophile prophet. We don't want to kill our neighbors. We don't want to stop eating hot dogs or face towards Mecca when we pray. Why would I want legalism when I have grace?
~NMJ
What a load of BULLSHIT ! you invade our land, you bomb our cities, you kill thousands upon thousands of innocent muslims, you torture muslims, you rape them,you KILL them and then you cry MUSLIM TERRORISM !!
GO TO HELL YOU BASTARDS.
You were the one who started it, Saladin old buddy. We were happy to stay out of your Islamic shit-holes until you decided to murder 3,000 of our citizens!
What are you doing using our evil kaffir technology anyways?
Stick to Islamic technology -- hand-written caligraphy on parchment rolls with ink made from camel-poo! Oh, wait, even that was probably stolen from some other,better civilization.
We invaded your lands… because you attacked us in our homes.
We bomb your cities… because you cannot face us in open battle like men.
We kill innocent Muslims… because you hide behind them and use them for shields.
We torture Muslims… by putting underwear on their heads.
We rape them… you wish.
We kill them… quite effectively.
GO TO HELL YOU BASTARDS… we did, but we’re returning sovereignty June 30.
Tsk Tsk, Saladin.
Aren't you aware of this Hadith?;
Bukhari's Book of Manners #271, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and Ibn Hibban.
...Abu Darda' reported that the Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, said, "Nothing is weightier on the Scale of Deeds than one's good manners."
But don't worry too much, The Hadith also contains things like this;
Bukhari 4:509, Narrated Abu Huraira
"The Prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."
So, as you can see, you really can't rely on it as a source of truth.
Regards,
kc
Let us take a rather more long-term view, if only for a moment. Islam is inconsistent with Christianity, logically speaking. Jesus cannot be who he claimed to be (God), and at the same time who Mohammed claimed him to be (a mere "prophet"). Christiantiy and Judaism, likewise, are inconsistent. Jesus cannot be who he claimed to be (the Messiah), and at the same time what Jews claim he is: a mere man, and a blasphemous one to boot. In the long-term, we shall see who is right, and who is wrong. If Jesus' claims are true, then woe to all who oppose him. Vengeance is mine, says the Lord (of the Scriptures Christ affirmed). Kill me in whatever manner you want (beheading, if you wish), if the Savior lives, in the end, your fate will be worse than death.
I just want to see if the Nick Berg and Paul Johnson beheading videos really exist...who has a link to the Islamist websites depicting the images?
I have searched and searched but it seems like NET censorship exists in the US
Freedom of the Press? yeah, right, more like
Free to Be Dumb
Okay, we will decensor The Paul Johnson beheading images, but certainly not our boy Nick Berg's purported death.
Paul's head at the DRUDGE REPORT
www.drudgereport.jp.htm
George "George didn't fire me" Tenet
kc...that is hilarious that the unholy koran covers yawning...what other bodily functions does it cover...."if one should break wind and it makes a thunder sound allah will laugh at you"....a comedy writer must have been helping mohammad..he just didnt seem like that humerous of a guy.
Ignore Saladin. He's just another impotent Muslim who wallows in the pleasure of feeling like a victim, yet wouldn't raise a finger to actually help another human being. Yet another sad and pathetic face of modern Islam.
As an American I find it hard to understand how there can be such cowards in any religion that condone the senseless murder or beheading of anyone in the name of their god or prophet. I try to be open minded but it seems that the majority of these cowards exist in the Muslim religion. Show me where Christians/Buddhists/Jews go out of their way to spread terror and chaos In the name of religion, they allow morons/butchers/delusional psychopants like Sadaam Hussein,his sons, Osama Bin Laden to murder innocent civilians simply because they do not conform to their view of the world. How can any religion support the likes of the Taliban and people who make it their goal in life to bend the masses to their will by the use of terror and indiscriminate killing of innocent civilans (to include defenseless women and children) How can any religion or any people as a whole support the latest slaughtering of bound, captured Americans such as Nick Berg and Paul Johnson. These men, and I use the term loosely, are nothing more than delusional cowards who hide behind the cloak of religion. They need to be hunted down and exterminated because by their actions , they have forfeited their right to live in freedom and peace with their fellow man. The world as a whole will be a far better place when these pig eating sodomizers of little boys are removed from the family of man
Hey Saladin, you ignorant fuck...
HERE is the difference between Muslim bastard terrorists and westerners that you CLAIM to kill innocents:
Your Muslim bretheren kill innocents ON PURPOSE. The U.S. Military, etc. aren't specifically GOING AFTER innocents. Some may accidentally be killed, but the targets are the piece of shit muslims who started the bloodshed in the first place.
Islam is a religion of hate and violence. The day is coming 'round when it will be stamped out. Fuck you and your racist jihad.
ISLAM WILL FALL. FUCK ISLAM. FUCK YOUR JIHAD. THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WILL STAND SIDE BY SIDE TO WATCH IT DEFEATED.
Paul Johnson, a Christian, is now in heaven. His murderers, killed in a shootout in Saudi Arabia, are now suffering in hell.
Your "holy" war is a failure. Give up before you spend eternity in hell.
-A.B.
I heard a report on the radio that as the US military cleans up after a battle they find that alot of the dead terrorists are on opposite sides of the road from each other and aparently shot each other with their Pray and Spray method of holding their gun up over the wall and just waiving it back and forth. Wouldn't alah protect his own soldiers form being killed by his other soldiers?
USAgirl;
Here's the others that I know of;
Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 7.366, Narrated Ibn Abbas
The Prophet said, "When you eat, do not wipe your hands till you have licked it, or had it licked by somebody else."
Hadith - Bukhari 8.240, Narrated Anas bin Malik
The Prophet said, "Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say: May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when yawning, Satan will laugh at him."
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 139:
Narrated 'Abbas bin Tamim:
My uncle asked Allah's Apostle about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the prayer. Allah' Apostle replied: "He should not leave his prayers unless he hears sound or smells something."
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 153:
Narrated Anas:
Whenever Allah's Apostle went to answer the call of nature, I along with another boy from us used to go behind him with a tumbler full of water.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 156:
Narrated Abu Qatada:
The Prophet said, "Whenever anyone of you makes water he should not hold his penis or clean his private parts with his right hand. (And while drinking) one should not breathe in the drinking utensil ."
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 163:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you performs ablution he should put water in his nose and then blow it out and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep."
Sad, Isn't it?
Regards,
kc
There is a consistent pattern extreme non-marksmanship by anti-liberation forces.
Marines report extensive presence of heroin and other mind altering drugs during Fallujah fighting.
One must conclude that pro-death forces always function as semi-human mines. ( The best mine is a drugged mind. )
Be it bullets or bombs, the devastation is radial.
So the battle is: Smart Bombs vs Dumb Radicals.
Can precision destruction overcome mass destruction ?
I recently heard this on CNN:
the Sunnis and Shias denounce the clashes between them and blame it on the foreign forces.
The heinous Westerners seem to be responsible for every trouble these poor freedom and peace-loving people are facing.
The Muslims are shown at prayer, listening intently to the imams. Good way of understanding things, the Quran will surely teach how to achieve peace.
Hopefully, even if the US should fail to establish a democratic state in Iraq, these power and blood-thirsty clerics will grapple and cut each other's throats. Then, the populace will find out to their cost how infinitely preferable to Islamic anarchy was the US prompted solution.
boo freaking hoo
Saladin -- quoting Osama Bin Laden is very classy.
Your little pictures of the bodies of these future terrorists were quite amusing....Paul Johnson's barbaric murder this week was evidence that CLEARLY, we're not killing ENOUGH of you.
boo freaking hoo
Saladin -- quoting Osama Bin Laden is very classy.
Your little pictures of the bodies of these future terrorists were quite amusing....Paul Johnson's barbaric murder this week was evidence that CLEARLY, we're not killing ENOUGH of you.
I read a lot of comments on here that made me sad. I am a Christian who loves and respects many Muslims. Please don't judge all of Islam by the jihadists. Saladin, please don't judge all of America by the ones who don't care about suffering Muslims or the atrocities done to your people.
I grieve for the innocents of any land who suffer. I especially grieve for Muslims. I love your people and I respect the many wonderful teachings of Islam. I don't believe jihadists have interpreted Islam correctly, but I know when one is frustrated by the unfairness of life, he can come to a conclusion that he thinks is right, even when it is not.
I believe your religion doesn't teach how to know Allah as a God of love. He loves you. He loves all of us, too--even Americans and Jews. He is not someone to fear or just respect. He does not desire anyone to kill innocents--no one, on either side! Read the Koran. Mohammed said to read the Bible too. How can he be wrong?
What if the answer lies not in each of us continuing to hate and destroy, but in each of us deciding to forgive? Forgiveness is a difficult concept in Islam, I know, but it is a vital element of life and healing.
I ask you to forgive us. Forgive Americans for not understanding. Forgive us for not respecting Islam and the needs of the Islamic people. And also, know there is a loving God who judges each person individually, and loves both the martyr/suicide bomber and those who are killed by him or her. Allah is on both sides, weeping over the victims. He longs for the day when there are no more victims. And so do I.
Nicole
I think you should read the Qur'an.
1 of the things you'd discover is that 'allah' is not Yahweh.
I have many Muslim friends, but I will in no way respect the demonic ideology (Islam) that keeps them in darkness.
I will post again later - I'm off to church.
Regards,
kc
Lots of ignorant rants here. I am sorry I found this page at all. Stop wasting your time folks and get an education. Then perhaps you will have something valid to post.
KC, i think you should read the quran.
I have read the Qur'an, Muslim.
And the Ahadith.
And a lot of Islamic history. (and yes before you question, from Islamic sources)
That is why I utterly reject it.
Get past the 'peaceful smokescreen' of westernized Islam and you open a whole can of worms.
Demonic worms at that.
Regards,
kc
I thought IT just covered the “wiping your butt” part… but farting?
darn typos...