Last night on Hardball with Chris Matthews, Senator Bob Graham (D-FL) said that he knew for a fact that another country besides Iran was behind 9/11 and Al-Qaeda. (Thanks to Foehammer for the link.)
GRAHAM: Chris, you‘re also assuming that the only foreign government that provided assistance to al Qaeda was Iran, based on this new information. I don‘t think that‘s correct. There were a number of instances in which our people were put at greater risk because of the actions of foreign governments. Unfortunately, for reason that are inexplicable to me, that‘s been withheld from the American people. I hope that this instance in Iran will be the basis of the government telling our people who are our friends and who our enemies really are.MATTHEWS: Right. But Senator Graham, do you know for a fact that any other government helped the al Qaeda people hit us on 9/11?
GRAHAM: Yes.
MATTHEWS: Who?
GRAHAM: I cannot say that.
MATTHEWS: Is it among usual suspects?
GRAHAM: Well, I don‘t know who your usual suspects are.
MATTHEWS: Well, how about—how about—how about the kind of governments the president lists in his “axis of evil”? How about that for a start?
GRAHAM: Well, let me say this. There is—as Senator Lott has just said, there has been some reporting in those newspapers and magazines about this, so it‘s not completely withheld from the American people. And some of that has been declassified. But the government has not been forthcoming in saying, Here‘s who was involved, and here‘s what we‘re going to do about it.
MATTHEWS: I‘d love to know that list.
We'd all love to know that list. But I think we've got a pretty good idea already what nations are truly our friends and who feigns friendship.
Muslim = enemy to America because infidel = enemy to muslims.
Did I miss anyone?
How about Russia?
Any country with a large muslim population or anti-American leaning that sympathizes with muslim jihadist goals...
Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Azerbaijan
Bahrein
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Brunei
Canada
Egypt
Eritrea
Indonesia
Kuwait
Libya
Malaysia
Mauretania
Morocco
Qatar
Somalia
Tajikistan
Turkey
Turkmenistan
U.A.E.
Uzbekistan
Am I missing something, but why are we leaving Lebanon out here?
Lebanon remains the main headquarters for Hezbollah that is known by the state depoartment to receive the greatest financial aid of all the terrorist groups combined. Believe me, they are not just focused on Israel and they receive money fron Iran and Saudia Arabia and many other middle eastern countries.
This is sort of on topic, since it has to do with identification of nations involved in conflict.
This is on Yahoo News as of "5 minutes ago"
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A militant group said Wednesday it had taken two Kenyans, three Indians and an Egyptian hostage and would behead them if their countries did not announce their intention to withdraw their troops from Iraq (news - web sites) immediately.
However, none of those countries were part of the 160,000 member coalition force in Iraq.
Since there are no troops from these countries, it would seem the kidnapper's demands have been met already, and the hostages should be released today...
I'm not sure he was referring to one of the obvious players. I remember hearing a discussion on how much evidence is pointing toward Russia, Germany, and France, cooperating with the terrorists etc, and that it would ber like opening a Pandora's box if all the data were to be revealed.
Do not forget about or dismiss china. In spite of all the warm & fuzzy photo ops & expanding economic ties, they still consider the USA as their enemy & are preparing for an eventual war against us. Facilitating terrorist activities against us for now serves their purposes. At the least, it distracts our attention from them as they ramp up for the coming takeover of Taiwan. If the terrorists are able to greatly increase their success (see the recent articles about the bin laden-suitcase nuke connection) & deal a crippling blow, the chinese may feel emboldened to the point of direct confrontation.
A good thing can never be repeated too many times. Websites by ex-Muslims:
http://www.secularislam.org/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://www.middleastwomen.org/
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
http://www.mukto-mona.com/
http://www.homa.org/
http://www.ladeeni.net/english.htm
http://taslimanasrin.com/
http://www.muslimsandislamic.faithweb.com/
http://www.geocities.com/freethoughtmecca/
http://exmuslim.com/
http://www.islamreview.org/
http://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/byauthor/anwarshaikh/articles.html
http://www.noniedarwish.com/
http://www.murtadd.org/
http://www.webspawner.com/users/hfali1/
http://www.knowislam.info/
http://www.geocities.com/ibn_rushd2
http://www.ampbreia.com/
Not China..at least not yet. They can see Islam and its jihad a greater threat than capitalism.
Not Russia. They are in the fight with us.
Saudi Arabia. The great financer of Whahhabism and all its curses. Due to great PR, hiring of ex-USA politicians as lobbyist, and tons of cash, most US citizens concern Saudi to be an ally. How wrong we are.
The House of Saud is an enemy of the USA. Bank it.
You are correct Scott. The kitty litter box sould have been the first stop in the war. When are we going to wake up. Cut off the money and things will slow down. They will not stop but will sure slow down.
Lets also put France there
Have we mentioned the dirthole of Ethiopia? or Palestine? Palestinians are becoming more penned up thanks to the fantastic, spectacular, Israeli wall of fame.....but Ethiopia is a hot spot we need to watch.
I know first hand that some Ethiopians lie, cheat, backstab and steal with the best of them. They have their own agenda, which is the complete happiness of themselves, no matter how they achieve it, or whose feet they step on.
How about Russia?
Posted by: pinkpower at July 21, 2004 11:07 AM
Wrong on that one they are in this fight with the USA!!
Clinton Gave China Chips for Nuclear War
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.
The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.
"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."
What was Berger stuffing in his pants?
U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes
Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.
The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.
Stolen U.S. Chips
Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips.
In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz.
Why Americans' Distrust of U.N. Grows
Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
Thursday, Mach 4, 2004
See part one of series, Uprising Against U.N. Grows in States and Congress.
WASHINGTON – Growing anti-Americanism in the United Nations has sparked a backlash in this country. No longer is this debate an intellectual parlor game. Much of grassroots America sees the globalist body as a danger to its safety and survival.
NewsMax.com has been tracking this development and watching it grow.
First and foremost, of course, is the fact that after 9/11, the United Nations tried to block America’s effort to protect itself in removing the bloodthirsty Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein from power. This obstructionism came despite repeated evidence that Hussein had given aid and comfort to and made common cause with terrorist organizations throughout the world that want to kill Americans.
OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM
Canadian imam supports jihad against U.S.
Muslim leader 'would fight the Americans with my nails and teeth'
Posted: April 8, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Art Moore
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A North American Muslim leader says he supports Saddam Hussein's call for jihad and believes Middle East Muslims should take up arms to expel U.S. troops from Iraq.
"If I were there, I would fight with them," said Gamal Solaiman, imam of the mosque in Canada's capital, Ottawa.
Putin: Russia Gave Bush Iraq Intelligence
NewsMax Wires
Friday, June 18, 2004
ASTANA, Kazakhstan -- Russia gave the Bush administration intelligence after the September 11 attacks that suggested Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was preparing attacks in the United States, President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
Putin said he couldn't comment on how critical the Russians' information was in the U.S. decision to invade Iraq. He said Russia didn't have any information that Saddam's regime had actually been behind any terrorist acts. "After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service, received information that officials from Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests," Putin said.
Andrew C. McCarthy NRO Contrub.
June 17, 2004, 8:40 a.m.
Iraq & al Qaeda
The 9/11 Commission raises more questions than it answers.
The 9/11 Commission's staff has come down decidedly on the side of the naysayers about operational ties between Saddam Hussein's regime and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network. This development is already being met with unbridled joy by opponents of the Iraq war, who have been carping for days about recent statements by President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney that reaffirmed the deposed Iraqi regime's promotion of terror.
Malaysia Arrests Key Figure in Nuclear Trafficking
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, May 28, 2004
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – A Sri Lankan businessman accused of brokering black market deals for nuclear technology was arrested Friday in Malaysia, government officials said.
Buhary Syed Abu Tahir, who allegedly worked with disgraced Pakistani scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan to sell nuclear secrets to rogue states, was detained for threatening Malaysia's national security, officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
Tahir is the most senior known member of Khan's network to have been arrested since details about its operations to sell nuclear know-how and equipment to Libya, Iran and North Korea came to light earlier this year.
Russia is on the side of the USA!!
China said that they were going to try to take out our sat.'s? and lets not forget they held our people and plane for how many days??? no china is not our freind!!!
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
Brigitte Bardot Fined for Inciting Racial Hatred
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:31 AM ET
PARIS (Reuters) - French actress-turned-animal rights activist Brigitte Bardot was convicted Thursday of inciting racial hatred and ordered to
pay $6,000 -- the fourth such fine for the former sex symbol since 1997.
The Paris court sentenced Bardot, 69, for remarks in her book "A Scream in the Silence," an outspoken attack on gays, immigrants and the
jobless that shocked France last year.
In the book, she laments the "Islamization of France" and the "underground and dangerous infiltration of Islam."
"Mme. Bardot presents Muslims as barbaric and cruel invaders, responsible for terrorist acts and eager to dominate the French to the extent of wanting
to exterminate them," the court said.
France's 5-million-member Muslim community is the largest in Europe.
Bardot, who was not present for the verdict, denied the charges in a tearful court appearance last month, saying her book did not target Islam or people
from North Africa.
She told the court France was going through a period of decadence and said she opposed interracial marriage.
"I was born in 1934, at that time interracial marriage wasn't approved of," she said.
"There are many new languages in the new Europe. Mediocrity is taking over from beauty and splendor. There are many people who are filthy,
badly dressed and badly shaven."
In her book, she also attacks homosexuals as "fairground freaks," condemns the presence of women in government and denounces the "scandal
of unemployment benefits."
Bardot's attacks on Muslims prompted anti-racism groups to launch legal proceedings against the former star, who turned her back on film
after 46 films to concentrate on animal welfare.
Bardot, who in her 1960s heyday was the epitome of French feminine beauty, was fined $3,250 in January 1998 after being convicted of inciting
racial hatred in comments about civilian massacres in Algeria.
Four months earlier, a court fined her for saying France was being overrun by sheep-slaughtering Muslims.
Now we know that Graham believes the French more that the President of the USA and who do you want to believe?
How can we trust the intell is it not the same people who said that there was WMDs in Iraq??? How can they have been so wrong about Iraq but be Right about Iran!!
I belived the Intell about Iraq and believe that the whole Mulsum world is trying to make us all dimmis and yes I saw the Arab summit and know why Liba walked out they didn't want to be part of the master plan that is why thy gave the things that saddam sent their way?
Once again the Dems are trying to play both sides and the American people surrer yes we see and the dems have put themselfs in a picel?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
'What about Ethiopia?' someone asked.
I would consider Ethiopia more of a battleground in the struggle with islam rather than a enemy of the U.S.
Ethiopia used to have a Christian majority in the recent past that was in control of the government. There is still a large Christian presence (some estimates say 40%+ of the population) that still has some political power. Ethiopia is fighting it's own battles with Somali rebel jihadists in its Ogaden territory. A wider internal problem is with a growing, and restive, muslim majority that resents the traditional Christian political influence. And we all know what the muslims want when it comes to government.
No, Ethiopia is a front line, and soon to be victim, if the non-muslim world doesn't step up and aid those with whom we have common cause.
Soldier dies in Philippines blast
From CNN Correspondent Maria Ressa
Friday, June 11, 2004 Posted: 11:33 PM EDT (0333 GMT)
MANILA, Philippines (CNN) -- A soldier was killed and two other people wounded when a bomb exploded outside a restaurant Saturday in Zamboanga, authorities said.
The explosion came as the soldier was trying to defuse the device in front of the Honey Bee restaurant.
Some officials blamed the blast on Abu Sayyaf, one of several Islamic militant groups fighting the government on the country's southern islands.
The group has been linked by Washington to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network. Abu Sayyaf members have been blamed for a number of terror attacks across the Philippines.
Why are there should we leave why do we have to help these people who are not willing to fight we can just wait and drop the bombs from the Air ???
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
PS PH. bunch of Girili men
The USA has Mans Men!! [STRONG]
What...the philippines caved to the muslims and they are STILL being attacked by them...LOL...wow no one could have predicted that...muslims LIED..shocking....guess they should have contacted miss cleo...
Hopefully any other country thinking about caving will look at this blast and reconsider...
I just wanted to point out an article in last week's National Review about Chris Matthews and his recent decent into Jewish conspiracy theory land. If you haven't seen it, it's worth reading.
Come back to us, Chris.
Buck...
Its certainly not all Canadians, I am married to a Canadian who is even less PC than I am...he minces no words and puts up with no crap...and voted against the current govt...the current govt wanted the muzzie vote and appeased them to get it...now they are in and will have to deal with the enemy that they slept with to get what they wanted...he was alos furious that the khadr family was welcomed by the govt...in fact said that if he would have been ordered to excort the terrorists from the airport like some poor cops had to he would have quit his job on the spot.
And you should know that reza condones and encourages the taking of slaves by the winner of the wars (as allowed under sharia)...so maybe camps are a waste, according to "holy" sharia the defeated enemy should be taken as slaves...now we do want to be fair to muslims...of course I dont have any cotton that need picking...but the lawn needs mowing..hmmm
OOPS...excort should be escort
Belisarius, you are part right. However, Ethiopia was looked at along with Sudan and Somalia as being a breeding ground for terrorists. In fact, the Somali that was indicted in Columbus Ohio last month for lying about his destination when he left the US is thought to have been in Ethiopia at a terrorist training camp.
Howver, your points are very valid and I agree that the entire country shouldn't be included on the toad list. Lastly, the Ethiopian I referred to is a purported Christian, but he's also a lying, sneaking, backbiting scum rag.
Regards,
D.C.
I think it would be prudent of me to point out right about now that 7 aircraft battlegroups of the United States of America have been steaming towards Taiwan for a few days now (may be there right now for all I know).
Why?
Well, there is this wisdom from a 2001 article I found that we should all keep in mind in regards to the Taiwan Strait:
"There are no coincidences around the Taiwan Strait and the Americans would have been fully aware of the PLA's exercises when they planned this," said Paul Beaver, an independent defence analyst in Britain. "They are demonstrating to the PLA that they have an interest in the future of Taiwan."
http://www.taiwandc.org/scmp-2001-04.htm
AND there was this very recent development also back around June 23, 2004, don't forget:
"US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz has expressed serious concern about Taiwan's ability to protect itself against possible attacks by China, and urged Taiwan to strengthen its defenses with the proposed arms purchase, according to a Taiwanese legislator visiting Washington."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2004/06/23/2003176153
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I'm more convinced that these are precautionary measures in the event of further Islamist attacks upon the United States, and not proof that China is culpable, but one can never rule out anything...
Bottom line: keep an eye on China.
D.C.:
While I don't any Ethiopians first hand, I did have the experience of being driven by an Ethiopian cab driver from the airport two weeks ago. In talking with him he explained that he was Tigre and a Christian. Naturally asked him what life was like living in that part of the world, in the middle of dar-al-Islam. Although he was from the mountains, and had no immediate muslim neighbors, he none the less attested to the growing problems the Christians in the muslim dominant areas were facing (not unlike almost every other conversation I've had with a non-muslim who has lived in a muslim dominant land).
That said, I still did not trust him to honestly charge my fair without the meter. Even then, he still tried to screw me out of more money until he found out we were driving to my home and I knew the way.
Maybe his dealings with me were a facet of Ethiopian culture or that of cabbies in general...
Great story Belisarius......Probably both....The Ethiopians I know are as money hungry as can be. They wear suits that they buy out of the backs of Chinese restaurants, yet drive junk, beat down wrecks for cars....it's hilarious.
They buy whole suits for $65.00, which is about 1/3 the value of their cars. This would be ok, if it weren't for the fact that they want to play the bigshot......
Ahhh, the never ending, incomparable entertainment that foreigners provide us........
p.s. They still need to abide by our laws, not the laws of their former caves and holes.
Graham is OBVIOUSLY talking about Saudi Arabia, but everything that our government finds out about them is instantly made "classified" by the Whitehouse so as not to offend the Saudis.
Too bad nobody in the Whitehouse has the nerve to say anything bad about the Saudis, nor does anyone in the mainstream media (except a certain gentleman from Flint.) And the few politicians with the sand to do so are prohibited from doing so in the interest of "national security" (i.e. protecting the Saudis and their business partners.)
The only place I have heard any criticism of Saudi Arabia in the popular media was at a recent showing of a documentary movie. In it, the director was interviewing an author that wrote a book about the Saudi's dirty dealings.
The two men were standing across the street from the massive Saudi embassy in Washington, D.C. After about two minutes, the Secret Service Police showed up to harass them. The director of the film asked, "Is it common practice for the Secret Service to provide protection for diplomats?" The agent answered, "No, it isn't common."
Yes, the oft-vilified Mike Moore is the ONLY media type that has the cajones to say anything about the Saudis. People, you really should see the film.
I guess for most of you, it boils down to this question: "Is it more important to fight the jihad by exposing the Saudis as world-wide financiers of terror, or to not rock the boat in order to protect their business partners (the Bush family)?"
Mike Moore has already decided what his priorities are... maybe some of you have too.
And another thing about the movie: he didn't whine about Israel at all.
Saudi Arabia? I already know that they are part of the problem because of their elites providing money to Al Qaeda channeled through charity fronts -- but this in itself does not equate to a state actually taking direct action in an attack upon the United States like 9/11.
The Saudis also nurture the vipers nest of Wahhabism and this must be dealt with one way or another in the not-so-distant future.
However, I somehow think that Graham is not insinuating that the culprit here is the Saudis. I got the feeling it will be someone less obvious.
If it does turn out to be Saudi Arabia, we will see that the leaders of that country are split in their allegiance to the United States and a civil war will most likely ensue, with true allies to the U.S. on one side (Prince Bandar) and Al Qaeda and Saudi Princes like Nayef (Interior Minister) on the other.
How about Russia?
Posted by: pinkpower at July 21, 2004 11:07 AM
Bush, Putin tout new era
May 25, 2002 Posted: 6:45 PM EDT (2245 GMT)
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (CNN) -- One day after President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a landmark nuclear arms reduction treaty, the men continued to tout a new era of cooperation between their nations.
"The treaty we signed says a lot about nuclear arms. It speaks about the need for peace," Bush told a packed auditorium Saturday at St. Petersburg University.
"But it also says the Cold War is over. And America and Russia need to be and will be friends for the good of the world."
Under the treaty, nuclear arsenals will be cut by roughly two-thirds over 10 years. (Full story)
Bush arrived at the Kremlin in Moscow on Thursday, his second stop in a weeklong European tour.
The war on terrorism and trade were two key topics discussed by the leaders, they told the crowd.
"We've got a new war to fight together. We're joined to fight against blood-thirsty killers," Bush said.
"These people hate freedom. They hate multi-ethnic societies. They can't stand religion."
"And it's a threat to America, and this is a threat to Russia, as you so all well know in this country. You've been hit by terrorist acts like we have been hit by terrorist acts," the U.S. president said, adding that Americans appreciated Russia's immediate support following the Sept. 11 attacks.
Leaders discussed free trade
The two leaders said they discussed removing obstacles that prevent Russia from trading freely with the United States, especially in the area of high technology.
Putin, who has been seeking membership in the World Trade Organization for his country, said, "What we need above all for Russia is an absolutely nondiscriminatory access to world markets and to U.S. markets. And we don't need preferences. We don't need subsidies. We don't need special favors. We just want normal, simple, ordinary, fair trade relations."
"These obstacles and limitations were placed upon us back in the days of the Soviet Union, and by their very inertia continue on and on," Putin said.
"Export controls on high-tech good are problematic, and we're now reviewing [them] in the United States," Bush responded.
Bush is to arrive in France on Sunday for a visit with President Jacques Chirac. He also will visit the Normandy beaches on Monday. Bush and his wife Laura will attend a Memorial Day service to honour the U.S. soldiers who fought and died in World War II.
Some things the press does not let us hear over and over?
We are not in this fight alone!
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
I guess for most of you, it boils down to this question: "Is it more important to fight the jihad by exposing the Saudis as world-wide financiers of terror, or to not rock the boat in order to protect their business partners (the Bush family)?"
Mike Moore has already decided what his priorities are... maybe some of you have too.
And another thing about the movie: he didn't whine about Israel at all.
Posted by: kj at July 21, 2004 05:49 PM
Was wondering if you were out campaining for your man kerry [killjoy] see you were spending a little money?
Answer the ? why was Sandy Berger putting Doc.s in his pants? What are you dems trying to hide could it be that you'al sold stuff to terrorist for money?
Sad try kj expect beter from you?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
Love the People of Las Va. That is what the real American people of America think of your M.More??
Deservedly, the links between Saudi Arabia and the USA grow increasingly strained, due to the Saudis’ stubborn inability to DROP their racist, Wahabi dogmas - continuing to covertly support Jihadism via numerous tricks - and to their ongoing deceit (and self-deception) in the "War on Terror".
Proven not to have worked by the recent terror-offensive in Saudi Arabia, once - until not all that long ago - in order to keep el-Qaeda off the House of Saud’s back, a rudimentary way for the Kingdom to have offered to appease it would’ve been for Saudi Arabia (now being named as a customer of Pakistan’s Dr A. Q. Khan, in addition to Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Egypt and Algeria) to have covertly assisted - somehow or another - in the clandestine procurement of nuclear weapons or commodities which el-Qaeda desires for its schemes.
A caveat: it’s intrinsic to the highly-classified subject of rogue nukes that whatever "reliable" data sporadically crops up, any "conclusions" must remain - finally - assumption (most likely, largely to be wrong, to boot - but then, truth can be stranger than fiction).
Nowadays, into the bargain, there’s a deal of diverse DISINFORMATION in play on this topic. Trading on ignorance and apathy, this accumulates out of a miasma of ordinary misinformation, mixed in with lots of contradictory and deflective intelligence "clutter", of different types and sources. So far, though, some of it looks generally to have boiled down to the following.
Allegedly, a batch of six of the former-USSR’s tactical "suitcase nukes" went missing between 1993 and 1996, probably swiped by the Russian Mafia, to be sold on. As well, there’s a story that an ex-Soviet ICBM-warhead containing six "independent-re-entry vehicles" was purloined round about then. Unfortunately, it’s perfectly plausible that such robberies DID indeed take place.
Atomic devices of these types require skilled, regular maintenance - particularly those of Soviet make. These are slightly cruder than their US equivalents, which are audited in detail every month, at minimum, needing at least minor adjustments as a result of most of these routine checks, demanding the application of highly specialized methods and equipment.
While difficult to keep these munitions functional (specially in the field), it’s not impossible. In Russia today, there’d be ample veteran military technicians, prepared to sell their expertise for big bucks (of which the Islamo-fascists have no shortage), to keep any stolen bombs "nominal".
There are tales of the Saudis having bought two Russian "suitcases": by repute, the King got one and immediately commanded its dispatch by night to a remote, top-secret bunker someplace, but as his senility raced on, he’s fully forgotten where - when he’s awake, he slouches drooling and incontinent on a plush sofa in his palace, watching old American cartoons.
The other supposedly went to one of his brothers, a senior Prince who’s vacuum-sealed his A-bomb in a grand, bejewelled, gold and crystal show-case, tightly secured down in a luxurious, heavily-armoured, underground vault, to which he occasionally brings his closest guests, to admire and commune together in their degenerate "divaniyas".
It’s been reported (without proper corroboration) that an extra two nuclear-explosive devices were obtained by Saudi Arabia, though. Having funded Pakistan’s development of atomic weapons, the House of Saud was re-paid in 2001 with a pair of brand-new Pakistani warheads, out of the initial set of a dozen Islamabad had produced by the previous year.
One of these went into the labs at an engineering institute of the Military University there, for physical research, the other’s nearby; at a Royal Saudi Air Force base, adjacent - having purportedly been retained in an operable state - customized, poised to be slung beneath a flight-ready, fueled-up F-15, its squadrons of escort-jets on alert in the neighbouring hangars.
Beyond any devices that it’s already managed to acquire (probably radiological), however, none of these four in the Kingdom are the nukes that el-Qaeda MOST covets
Not that Osama bin-Laden would turn up his nose for a minute at getting his hooks on the one A-bomb in Saudi Arabia that works, and not that he doesn’t have a profound and abiding interest in taking over that country, but - as he sees it - the MOTHER-LODE is the fifty or sixty, prime, atom-tipped, medium- and intermediate-range missiles in Pakistan, where the materiel and plant to manufacture many more, plus to make the rocketry to deliver them, reside as well.
Regionally, further, there’s the big problem of IRAN’s expanding nuclear armaments industry….
A number of urgent items require address today, but the possession of nukes by terrorist entities - Jihadis wouldn’t hesitate to detonate them for a second - or by their supporters will definitely constitute a grave reversal in the advent of VICTORY for the West and its associates in the "War on Terror" - for which, in this epochal conflict, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE.
Chirac is definitely an enemy but not the French
people.Their aims and fears are the same as ours,more so as they have the largest population
of Muslims in Europe. Dispute also putting Afghanistan on the List - Taleban mostly comes from Pakistan Madrasses and the ordinary people hate them. Have a look at RAWA site and this will open your eyes.These brave women have been fighting Islamists and the Taleban for years in Afghanistan, their founding leader was tortured to death and many other women face the same fate for daring to speak out. As for Russia and China, they are on our side regarding foreign policy.
speak out.
Bob Owens and Belisarius,
You both missed out Jordan, birth place of Osama Bin Laden ( or is he Saudi too?) and Zarawaqi, were Al qaeda was formed and were a large number of terrorists in Iraq originate or cross the border from. Not to mention King Abdullah , one of the biggest butt-kissing islamic apologists on earth.
You also forgot Chechnya ( one of the most formidable muslim forces)and Palestine (if there ever was one).
Last but not least lets not forget the USA's worst enemy, ITSELF!!!(The same goes for the United Kingdom)
This is a very good news in order to see how much you hate the whole world and how much you like to destroy any other country who wants to live apart of your provocations and repressions.
Bob Owens handles the whole European Union and their decision to accept the ultimate prevail of Holy Islam as a mutiny and adopts the policy of "Either You are with Us...Or....We Bomb You...", suggesting the nuking of the coutnries in that continent.
That would happen after destroying the rest of what is left to be not destroyed in Africa and Latin america and a larg part of Asia.
Then you will probably wake up to realize you also hate the other half of american population too and start killing your own people.
You are moving like a group of old, sick, giant dinosaurs, lonley, with no hope in their eyes, in their last days before the ice age, waiting for Allah's (swt) order of extinction.
The only one responsible for this misery is The White House and not innocent children of Fallujah or children of any other Muslim country who you shamelessly order to be killed everyday.
Don't paint the history of american aggression more bloody than what it is already. Even Harry Truman is shaking in his grave from the devastation of your atrocities.
Your aggression will not win any heart and mind except of those senseless murderers. I ask you again to go and learn Holy Islam which will lead us to live in peace all together.
Mahmoud,
In Bob Owens' defense, he recently critised one of my posts advocating the genocide of every muslim in the UK. So how have you come to the conclusion that he would like to see every muslim country nuked? Plus how can an American "handle the European Union" whatever that means. Are you sure you've grasped the English language properly yet?
PS-You Mahmoody old so and so!!!LOL!!!
May Mike "al" Moore burn in a vat of Saudi oil eternally in hell (when he dies from a heart attack due to obesety).
While I'm at it may Uday and Qasay Hussein be forced by Satan himself, to commit acts of sodomy upon each other while Mohammed is forced to watch them while suspended from a burning crucifix to which he is nailed .....also eternally.
Hey! I see that Twinkie mahmoud has crawled on his little belly and made it back on the "Watch"....Welcome back, racist.
There is no such animal running around on earth that can be labeled as "Holy Islam"....However, you type like the Incredible Hulk, and your comments are on par with Hulk brain....Milk make Hulk Bones strong.....
Little bigot Twinkie....where have you been? Watching your heroes cut off body parts on al Jezeera perhaps?
Rikki,
I made a mistake, It was you, not bob, i am sorry.
DCWatson,
I see you are still not repenting to your sins, come my dhimmi brother, embrace Holy Islam and stop fighting with yourself.
Mahmoud,
Just a correction: Islam is a "holey" religion, not holy.
Holey, as in perforated.
Holey as in:
Jihadprints in the Sand
One night a shahid had a dream. He dreamed he was walking along the beach with Allah.
Across the sky flashed scenes from his life. During each scene he saw two sets of footprints in the sand: one belonging to him and the other to Allah. However, during the last, most desperate scene, he saw there was only one set of footprints. This troubled him and he turned to Allah and said,
"Allah! You swore that once I decided to follow you, you would never leave me. Why then, in my darkest hour, was there only one set of footprints in the sand?"
Allah smiled at him. "O glorious shahid, I love you and would never leave you. During your time of trial and suffering, when you saw only one set of footprints, it was because the bomb you detonated on that bus blew your fucking feet off. It was then that I carried you. In Glad bags."
From http://www.howardsmusings.com/2004/02/28/jihadprints_in_the_sand.html
and courtesy of Allah himself.
http://allahpundit.com/