Well last time I ckecked the number 1 babys name in Bul. was mo-ham-od so that tell me to tell them to get stuffed we the USA do not believe in this court and soon all of the European Free countrys will not either Lets hope they wake up before it is to late for them???
I remember talking to a French Forigen Leg. Col. Last Year and told him to arm all his Chirstians an he told me I did not understand there was 5mil mulsums in France? I told him well yes that may be true but you have a poplation of more than 60mil so you realy must be the surrender cheeze eating monkeys that I heard about because if you work at it now you have the advantage!!
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory Amen
PS Did you hear about the new President of Iraq cut the Hand of a lebenese terrorist off??
"It makes no sense for the United Nations to vehemently oppose a fence which is a non-violent response to terrorism rather than opposing terrorism itself," Hillary Clinton said to a crowd of about 100 people.
"It makes no sense for the United Nations to vehemently oppose a fence which is a non-violent response to terrorism rather than opposing terrorism itself," Hillary Clinton said to a crowd of about 100 people."
(posted by: Posted by: chevalier de st george at July 13, 2004 05:41 PM)
Agreed!
However, this is not about a fence, this is the standard European anti-jewish hate rising to the surface once again. After WWII they buried it, not wanting to look as bad as Hitler, but since Oslo the monster that was creeping about the cupboards came out. It was always there and waiting till they felt it was once again "acceptable" to let it out. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it will be there till they acknowledge and deal with it. Sigh
However, this is not about a fence, this is the standard European anti-jewish hate rising to the surface once again. After WWII they buried it, not wanting to look as bad as Hitler, but since Oslo the monster that was creeping about the cupboards came out. It was always there and waiting till they felt it was once again "acceptable" to let it out. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it will be there till they acknowledge and deal with it. Sigh
Posted by: paula at July 13, 2004 05:56 PM
The Europeans do not hate the Jews they think if they give up the Jews the mulsums will leave them alone they did not learn from WW2!
"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
-- Winston Churchill
The ? is will they ever learn?
Americans this time may not pick up the Phone this time we Americans have listen to the hate for us and our President and may just let that phone ring!!! I hope they are arming their non-mulsums like the Italians are?
Part of the American Tribe
Remember that a gun in hand is better than 2 cops on the phone!!!
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them strength and courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
I'd just like to make one thing clear. The real problem that most people have is not with the wall itself. I happen to think that a wall might be a good thing for both the Palestinian and Israeli sides.
However, the problem is that it cuts into large chunks of Palestinian land. Many Palestinians are cut off from the rest of the West Bank. Many of them aren't able to go to schools, hospitals, jobs in the West Bank, and they obviously aren't allowed in to Israel.
I think the Israelis have an obvious right to defend themselves by building a wall, but they should build it on THEIR territory.
Okay, I know there are some of you seem to think that the West Bank is not Palestinian, but rather Israeli territory. In that case, my argument is worthless.
When one side tries to destroy another (as the Arab nations tried to destroy Israel in '48, '56,
'67, and '73) and loses....the losing side often makes concessions.
Israel, by order of its own Supreme Court, is changing the route of the wall to ease hardship on Palestinians.
The Palestinians have had opportunities to solve their problems in ways that would have benefitted them, while not ostracizing the Israeli's; but they would rather send homocide bombers over into territory that is not theirs. Had they acted decently in the first place, the Israelis would not have to try and protect themselves by building on certain segments of land acquired in 1967 from Jordan (aka. the West Bank)
At this point, after repeated instances of Jihadi bombings and UN condemnation of just not lying down and taking it, they are sick of the whole thing and are building a fence to fence out the Palestinians. I cannot blame them in the least.
Perhaps the Palestinians should be more concerned about building a society of their own - one that is not dependant upon Israel AT ALL - and leave the Israeli's alone. Of course, this is probably not going to be possible because they are being led by a self-appointed and selfish leader like Arafat, but hey, one can dream.
You said you’d much prefer Israel’s separation barrier to be erected stringently along the “Green Line”, on Israeli, not "Palestinian land”. The very words you utilized bespeak your extreme load of disinformation, which has, alas, led you to an erroneous conclusion.
The “Green Line” is the 1949 - 1967 armistice line, which is NOT classed as an International Border. No Arabs have EVER negotiated any international boundaries AT ALL for “Palestine” - repeatedly, volubly and violently refusing to do so on at least a half-dozen occasions since 1937. They were offered excellent opportunities for Peace and thus to define their frontiers on the map - and those of Israel - but they always bloodily rebuffed these chances, without exception.
En bloc, the Arabs blew off the 1937 Peel Commission’s Partition Plan and in 1948, they voted against the UN’s. At the Rabat Conference in 1967, they strenuously insisted on the rigid policy of “The Four Nos”, a big “No to Negotiations” being one of the four. In 1978, at Camp David I, when Egypt became the first Arab country to make a peace with Israel, PLO Chairman Yasir Arafat scorned the invitation of the USA, Israel and Egypt to join in. At no point whatsoever during the seven-year Oslo period did Arafat ever once deal sincerely. On top, he next spurned all of the unprecedented concessions tendered by Israel at Camp David II in July 2000, then he rebuffed the extra compromises of the talks at Sharm el-Sheikh and more at Taba in December.
How, therefore, can any spot be categorically counted as “Palestinian land”? It can become that exclusively via negotiations with Israel - as unambiguously stipulated in the text of UN Security Council Chapter VI Resolution #242 of 1967 - which is the BINDING, pertinent International Pronouncement on the subject - mandating (inter alia) that bona fide discussions to demarcate the two states’ borders MUST be held. Until they are - and appropriate agreements signed and KEPT TO - the West Bank and Gaza Strip legally remain “disputed territories”, not “Palestinian land”.
The view of Arafat and his PA/PLO-Hamas-Jihad Islami-“Pal” Hezbollah - despite their LIES - is that the State of Israel’s totally illegitimate, to be REPLACED by their “Palestine”. They see their “occupied territories” not only as Gaza, the West Bank and east Jerusalem, but all the rest of Israel as well. They’re uninterested in any “Two State Solution”, unless it’s just a temporary measure, poising them to wipe out the Jewish State, in a follow-up stage of their “Revolution”....
Folks, you have to check out Hugh Fitzgerald's latest effort re Ken Livingstone on Dhimmiwatch:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002500.php#comments
LOL love these guys they have some good ones!!
Well last time I ckecked the number 1 babys name in Bul. was mo-ham-od so that tell me to tell them to get stuffed we the USA do not believe in this court and soon all of the European Free countrys will not either Lets hope they wake up before it is to late for them???
I remember talking to a French Forigen Leg. Col. Last Year and told him to arm all his Chirstians an he told me I did not understand there was 5mil mulsums in France? I told him well yes that may be true but you have a poplation of more than 60mil so you realy must be the surrender cheeze eating monkeys that I heard about because if you work at it now you have the advantage!!
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the Course to Victory Amen
PS Did you hear about the new President of Iraq cut the Hand of a lebenese terrorist off??
"It makes no sense for the United Nations to vehemently oppose a fence which is a non-violent response to terrorism rather than opposing terrorism itself," Hillary Clinton said to a crowd of about 100 people.
mmmmmmmmmmm....
"It makes no sense for the United Nations to vehemently oppose a fence which is a non-violent response to terrorism rather than opposing terrorism itself," Hillary Clinton said to a crowd of about 100 people."
(posted by: Posted by: chevalier de st george at July 13, 2004 05:41 PM)
Agreed!
However, this is not about a fence, this is the standard European anti-jewish hate rising to the surface once again. After WWII they buried it, not wanting to look as bad as Hitler, but since Oslo the monster that was creeping about the cupboards came out. It was always there and waiting till they felt it was once again "acceptable" to let it out. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it will be there till they acknowledge and deal with it. Sigh
However, this is not about a fence, this is the standard European anti-jewish hate rising to the surface once again. After WWII they buried it, not wanting to look as bad as Hitler, but since Oslo the monster that was creeping about the cupboards came out. It was always there and waiting till they felt it was once again "acceptable" to let it out. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it will be there till they acknowledge and deal with it. Sigh
Posted by: paula at July 13, 2004 05:56 PM
The Europeans do not hate the Jews they think if they give up the Jews the mulsums will leave them alone they did not learn from WW2!
"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
-- Winston Churchill
The ? is will they ever learn?
Americans this time may not pick up the Phone this time we Americans have listen to the hate for us and our President and may just let that phone ring!!! I hope they are arming their non-mulsums like the Italians are?
Part of the American Tribe
Remember that a gun in hand is better than 2 cops on the phone!!!
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them strength and courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
I'd just like to make one thing clear. The real problem that most people have is not with the wall itself. I happen to think that a wall might be a good thing for both the Palestinian and Israeli sides.
However, the problem is that it cuts into large chunks of Palestinian land. Many Palestinians are cut off from the rest of the West Bank. Many of them aren't able to go to schools, hospitals, jobs in the West Bank, and they obviously aren't allowed in to Israel.
I think the Israelis have an obvious right to defend themselves by building a wall, but they should build it on THEIR territory.
Okay, I know there are some of you seem to think that the West Bank is not Palestinian, but rather Israeli territory. In that case, my argument is worthless.
Well, Chan'ad,
When one side tries to destroy another (as the Arab nations tried to destroy Israel in '48, '56,
'67, and '73) and loses....the losing side often makes concessions.
Israel, by order of its own Supreme Court, is changing the route of the wall to ease hardship on Palestinians.
the irony of all things fox reported earlier some PA people actually sold israel the concrete to build parts of the fence.
What else could Israel do to stop the slaughter of its people. The wall is a good idea and I believe it will work to limit Palistine terrorism.
Chan'ad,
The Palestinians have had opportunities to solve their problems in ways that would have benefitted them, while not ostracizing the Israeli's; but they would rather send homocide bombers over into territory that is not theirs. Had they acted decently in the first place, the Israelis would not have to try and protect themselves by building on certain segments of land acquired in 1967 from Jordan (aka. the West Bank)
At this point, after repeated instances of Jihadi bombings and UN condemnation of just not lying down and taking it, they are sick of the whole thing and are building a fence to fence out the Palestinians. I cannot blame them in the least.
Perhaps the Palestinians should be more concerned about building a society of their own - one that is not dependant upon Israel AT ALL - and leave the Israeli's alone. Of course, this is probably not going to be possible because they are being led by a self-appointed and selfish leader like Arafat, but hey, one can dream.
The UN is a joke! Let them issue all the resolutions they want to...WE learned from Saddam that UN resolutions mean absolutely NOTHING..
Go Isreal! Build that fence High and Wide and assure yourselves of your God given right to live free from terror...
C'mon you Israelis!!!
Build a humongous fence out of the bones of dead palestinians (suicide bomber bones too if theres anything left of them)
Ohhh, that one is rich. *lol*
Chan’ad:
You said you’d much prefer Israel’s separation barrier to be erected stringently along the “Green Line”, on Israeli, not "Palestinian land”. The very words you utilized bespeak your extreme load of disinformation, which has, alas, led you to an erroneous conclusion.
The “Green Line” is the 1949 - 1967 armistice line, which is NOT classed as an International Border. No Arabs have EVER negotiated any international boundaries AT ALL for “Palestine” - repeatedly, volubly and violently refusing to do so on at least a half-dozen occasions since 1937. They were offered excellent opportunities for Peace and thus to define their frontiers on the map - and those of Israel - but they always bloodily rebuffed these chances, without exception.
En bloc, the Arabs blew off the 1937 Peel Commission’s Partition Plan and in 1948, they voted against the UN’s. At the Rabat Conference in 1967, they strenuously insisted on the rigid policy of “The Four Nos”, a big “No to Negotiations” being one of the four. In 1978, at Camp David I, when Egypt became the first Arab country to make a peace with Israel, PLO Chairman Yasir Arafat scorned the invitation of the USA, Israel and Egypt to join in. At no point whatsoever during the seven-year Oslo period did Arafat ever once deal sincerely. On top, he next spurned all of the unprecedented concessions tendered by Israel at Camp David II in July 2000, then he rebuffed the extra compromises of the talks at Sharm el-Sheikh and more at Taba in December.
How, therefore, can any spot be categorically counted as “Palestinian land”? It can become that exclusively via negotiations with Israel - as unambiguously stipulated in the text of UN Security Council Chapter VI Resolution #242 of 1967 - which is the BINDING, pertinent International Pronouncement on the subject - mandating (inter alia) that bona fide discussions to demarcate the two states’ borders MUST be held. Until they are - and appropriate agreements signed and KEPT TO - the West Bank and Gaza Strip legally remain “disputed territories”, not “Palestinian land”.
The view of Arafat and his PA/PLO-Hamas-Jihad Islami-“Pal” Hezbollah - despite their LIES - is that the State of Israel’s totally illegitimate, to be REPLACED by their “Palestine”. They see their “occupied territories” not only as Gaza, the West Bank and east Jerusalem, but all the rest of Israel as well. They’re uninterested in any “Two State Solution”, unless it’s just a temporary measure, poising them to wipe out the Jewish State, in a follow-up stage of their “Revolution”....