Iraqi jihadists claim to kill Pakistan hostages

Is this story connected to the theological green light that was just issued? From AP:

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A militant group holding two Pakistani contractors hostage said Wednesday it had killed the men but freed their Iraqi driver, the Al-Jazeera television station Al-Jazeera reported.

The group, calling itself the Islamic Army in Iraq, had announced in a video Monday that it kidnapped two Pakistanis working for U.S. forces and sentenced them to death because their country was discussing sending troops to Iraq.

In a new videotape sent to Al-Jazeera on Wednesday, the men said they had carried out their threat, the station reported. The newsreader said the video showed the corpses of the two men; however, the station declined to show the footage.

The kidnapped men were identified by Pakistan as engineer Raja Azad, 49, and driver Sajad Naeem, 29, both of whom worked for the Kuwait-based al-Tamimi group in Baghdad. The militants also warned the company to stop doing business in Iraq or they would kill more of its employees.

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So once again, Islamic terrorists in Iraqi kill innocent civilians for not being Muslim, or in some cases, "Muslim enough."

Pathetic.

You're right, Bob. The dark brown and black muslims just aren't as good as the arab ones.

The kidnappings and depraved slaugther of the innocents will continue, as the US military in Iraq sits on it's hands.

When will our forces become proactive and engage the enemy. We have the means to do this ,obviously we do not have the will.

A good place to start would be Fallujah, the terrorist strong hold.After the four Americans were killed, their bodies mutilated and hung from a bridge, the town should have been razed.

It's high time to teach the Islamo-barbarians a lesson and hunt these bastards down.

This is off topic but here is a good article titled "Islam’s Seeds Of Self-Destruction"

and the url:

http://www.americandaily.com/article/4459

Oh my, yet another rabid cry to "raze Fallujah". Do you not remember? You tried that already. By the will of Almighty Allah (swt), the brave Mujahideen repeatedly repelled the occupiers and slaughtered them like insects. Oh yes, by all means, try again.

Your grandchildren will be Muslim.

Allahu akbar

I will predict that the two Pakistani hostages
will be freed because they are muslims -
just like the previous Pakistani hostage,
or the egyptian diplomat or the Lebanese American
soldier or the Turkish hostages or the....

If the jihadis want to send a message to the world, they will simply behead the three hindus -
just like Nick Berg or the Korean hostage or
the many other non-muslims.

Its becoming a pattern.

Reza,


Normaly I do not respond to your ignorant commentary, if anything I have suggested that your inane and imbecilic comments should be ignored and that you should be ostracized.
But alas, your Islamo-garbage can sometimes be quite humorous.

Concerning Fallujah, the US military decided not to fully attack and destory this puny city, which it could easily have done, because of the high cost of civilian casualties.

In the final analysis the evil scourage of Islam shall be wiped from the face of the earth.


The Lord saw much evil,
so he cleasned the earth of the wicked
and the were no more...

looks like I was wrong. My prayers for those
who got brutally murdered.

mohammedans have always slaughtered infidels,
jihad keeps them from going to hell,
a direct path to a sleazy Hollywood heaven
produced and directed by mo-mad and his friends.

But now this,
this is close to the nadir
and sinking lower still,
when you kill your own kind, boys,
I must call you boys because honorable men
don't turn on their own kind, on each other,
wouldn't kill their own brother.

If arabs covet honor above all.
then this will be your downfall,
for you have lost your honor,
and disobeyed your laws,
and now you are identified
as one whose life is tied
to the idols of a bedouin tribe,
to a lower state of consciousness,
given to perfidy and viciousness.

There is no honor
among thieves and murderers
who worship a deluded prophet,
whose ultimate vanity,
sealed his fate with the rule
of a book and the sword of hate,
a prophet who did not understand
the consequences of eternity,
and what mono-life means to humanity.
or that love is the true master of man.
No, there is no honor here.

POETESS

You say it all beautifully. These gangsters who proclaim themselves 'noble Jihardists' are in truth torturers and murderers of their own people. They have no honour and soon, will have no
credibility either.

So once again, Islamic terrorists in Iraqi kill innocent civilians for not being Muslim, or in some cases, "Muslim enough."

Pathetic.


Posted by: Bob Owens at July 28, 2004 07:22 PM

You're probably right Bob, but the gods honest truth is Pakistanis are easily as bad as their arab counterparts. There may be a little racial rivalry between the two races and a language barrier, but Pakistanis are equally as religiously insane, I should know the UK's been inundated with them since the 60s.
They're the forefront of Jihad and Dhimmi in England and Scotland.The Irish won't entertain them though and Northern Irelands got a little too many explosions and guns ,where they should feel right at home, but the paddies would shoot them as soon as look at them , they don't like protestants so imagine what they'd do to dirty islamic invaders.

Hey Rikki,

I never claimed that any particular Muslim group cornered the market on "crazy."

It almost seems as if these countries are in a contest to see who can be in the next sequel to "Dude, Where's My Head?" starring the US Marine Corps and various clueless terrorists that is playing currently to thinning crowds in Iraq.

The next sequel is likely to have a soundtrack featuring the hit 80s remix of "Iran, Iran So Far Away" and Lyndie England's remake of Olivia Newton John's smash, "Let's Get Physical."

Coming soon to an Islamic whackjob near you!

Bob,
Thats cool man!Think though what a great movie the biography of Saddam would be.They'd be spoilt for choice in titles , but I'd opt for:
"The Butcher of Baghdad!Madman?Insane?No!Saddam In-sane!"

Rikki, there are just so many movies to be made about Islam. Here are a few I thought of:

An African-American comedian with a history of mental health problems gets drunk and whizzes on the Kaba in Mecca during the Hajj, setting of an international incident in Martin Lawrence of Arabia.

A dozen frightened sheep are rescued from a Muslim nomad’s tent, causing terrible rage from their horny owners in Twelve Angry Arab Men. This could alternately be titled, The Real Reason for the Silence of the Lambs.

Glorious beheadings of infidels abound in It’s a Wonderful Knife.

Muslim women finally find some measure of release in A Toy Story.

hey
i'm a school kid from west yorkshire in england. im also muslim. i believe that "radical islam" is not right. i no theyre fighting for there coutry, however to kill cavillians just to get a point across is not good. But i do believe islam is the right relegion. the word "islam" stands for peace.

stay safe y'all and PEACE

Reza said--"By the will of Almighty Allah (swt), the brave Mujahideen repeatedly repelled the occupiers and slaughtered them like insects"-
we slaughter pigs here not insects-i forgot u fools are still eating locusts--you are in fact stuck in a primitive time where u read everything so literally from ur silly book-and i wonder what do islamic women get for martyrdom????a 50 arabian gangbang??sounds like it would hurt-pretty sick chubs

Kaz,

Islam is an ideology of intolorence, hate,barbarity and vindictive violence, founded by the "false" prophet Mohammed,an avowed pedophile and child molester.

Right now there are fourteen conflicts worldwide,all being purportrated by your fellow "peace loving" Muslims.

It's time for you to renounce this "alleged" evil
religion and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

I pray you will.

reza-quick question--who said this??

"The ink of the scholar is more sacred than the blood of the martyr."

???

oh-wait-maybe he didnt say this--maybe the Jewish rabbi who wrote the Koran snuck it in there since the fool couldnt read it anyway.

Son of Infidel

Jesus is not the son of god he also was a prophet.Christianity once was the right relegion, however the bible got changed. If you see around the world theres many different versions. And after this Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w) peace be upon him, came with the last and final relegion, and the holy Quran. The quran is same all around the world and is never going to be changed.

stay safe y'all and PEACE

Kaz,

You don't know very much about Islam, do you? Neither the religion, nor the word. Islam does not mean "peace." Educate yourself.

Definitions of Islam on the Web:

Arabic word meaning submission (to God) and the name for the religion founded under the leadership of the prophet Muhammad; it also denotes the Muslim community.
http://www.lacma.org/islamic_art/glossary.htm


The name of the religion which was initiated by Muhammad early in the 7th century and which means surrender to Allah.
http://www.safeplace.net/members/mer/BAI-III.html


Islam literally means submission (of one's self to the One Creator). Contrary to popular belief, Islam was not introduced by the Prophet Muhammad (S). Muhammad (S) was in fact the last prophet in a line of prophets - the first of whom was Prophet Adam (S).
http://www.ashura.com/defs.html


youngest and most starkly monotheistic of major world religion. The Arabic word islam literally means "surrender" or "submission". As the name of the religion it is understood to mean "surrender or submission to God". One who has thus surrendered is a Muslim. In theory, all that is necessary for one to become a Muslim is to recite sincerely the short statement of faith known as the shahadah, which goes: There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet. Islam is much feared in the West because of the sometimes fanatical adherence of some of its members, many of whom have a propensity for violence and terrorist activity.
http://www10.brinkster.com/atheismfile/glossary.html

Submission
http://www.qadiri-rifai.org/html/pathofsufism/glossary.htm


Arabic for "submission," the act of faith and surrender which defines the praxis of Muslims. Also, the historic faith delivered through Muhammad and the ritual practice in contrast to the doctrinal system, iman.
http://www-relg-studies.scu.edu/facstaff/murphy/courses/sctr019/glossary.htm


'Submission'; the Muslim religion and the community of believers who have submitted themselves to Allah. 'Submission'; the Muslim religion and the community of believers who have submitted themselves to Allah.
http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0767420438/student_view0/chapter10/glossary.html

Major world religion having its origins in 610 c.e. in the Arabian peninsula; meaning literally submission; based on prophecy of Muhammad. (pp. 277)
http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/stearns_awl/medialib/glossary/gloss_I.html

Kaz, if you are young enough that you are not totally and blindly indoctrinated, I urge you to get out while you can. Islam has declared war upon the rest of the world, and it cannot win. I doubt Islam will survive this century.

Good luck.

Bob Owens

i no all this already.

Kaz,

Islam purports it self to be a "religion of peace", when in fact it is a vile and evil ideology based on the depraved writings of the "alleged" prophet Mohammed.

Islam has no moral center, it teaches militant hate and death to the Infidels(non-believers).


The death and destruction purportrated in the name of Islam is nothing short of pure evil.

You are just like the many other mindless followers, that have been brain washed by this "false" and "acursed" ideology.

In the final analysis this scourge shall be cleansed from the face of the earth.

PS: You stated that the Qu'an is never going to by changed.

The Qu'an will be set ablaze in the Fire of Hell.

Typo: is never going to "be" changed.

son of infedel

u dont get it do you. there are 4 holy books. zaboor, torah, injeel(bible) and quran. first holy book zaboor was sent through Daood (David).Then after some time Mosa (Moses) was sent on ‘Banni Israel’ and was honored to present Holly book of Torah. Everyone was asked to follow Torah and teachings of Mosa (Moses) at that time as it was the most current and unchanged version of God’s message. With the passage of time, people started changing Torah and started calling themselves as jews. So Torah lost its originality. Many people remained same and did not or partially accepted or change lot of things in God’s message and started calling themselves as Hidus and Buddas to saying and believin! g the hand made statues as their God’s even some animals like cows, even sun and moon as their Gods.

>Then after few hundred years, Issa (Jesus) came and was honored to present the Holly book Injeel and everyone was asked to follow Issa (Jesus) and Injeel as it was the most current and unchanged version of God’s message but again with the passage of time, people started changing Injeel and started calling themselves as Christians. So Injeel lost its originality even its original name. People started using the name Bible and now days there are many versions of Bible. Every pop change according to his will and so it lost its originality.

>Then after some time Mohammad (PBUH) came as the last prophet of God and was honored to present Quran as the last Holly book of God and it certifies all the other holly books, scriptures and prophets. Everyone was asked to follow Quran as it was and still is the most current and unchanged version of God’s message. Till now Quran is in 100% original for. Not even a single character in Quran has ever been altered or changed by any human involvement. Followers of Quran are called Muslims.

ps i hav not been brainwashed as you say. i have also memorized the quran by heart like many other muslims around the world. so even if you burn the quran we can always write it again.

this is the history of the earth.

stay safe and learn to chill man. stop getting angry and trying to get your point across.

PEACE

hey i forgot to add this

Whatever is happening in the world and all the wars are because of cruel politics of the world. Some cruel politicians are doing bloodshed, creating wars and killing humanity just because of money, piece of land or because of some other greediness and blaming it onto religions. We need to stop hate and create humbleness and respect of everyone and every believe. Hate will only end to a fight and then possibly a chained revenge that might continue to deadly wars

laters son of infedel

Kaz,


I am going to try and educate you about the "acursed" and "evil" ideology that you have been brain washed into following.

Read this carefully and try to retain the facts setforth below.

The Truth shall set you free!


While I see some limited evidence of progress in the 9/11 Commissioner's understanding of the global jihad we are facing, ultimately their report resorted to the same tired and ahistorical canards that distort the mainstream tradition – indeed which are central to Islam – of jihad war. The report mentions the ad nauseatingly referenced Hanbali jurist Ibn Taymiyya (d.1328), who despite his Muslim orthodoxy, now serves as a convenient prop for those who contend, either deceitfully or in blissful ignorance, that jihad war is not a main tenet of traditional Islam. Once again a distorted historical nexus is made between Ibn Taymiyya, but not countless other seminal jurists and theologians who expressed identical opinions, throughout the history of Islamic civilization, and 20th century ideologues like Sayyid Qutb, and the Muslim Brotherhood movement. This flimsy construct, reiterated in the 9/11 Commission Report, is completely untenable.

Jihad wars have been waged continuously for well over a millennium, through the present, because jihad, which means “to strive in the path of Allah,” embodies an ideology and a jurisdiction. Both were formally conceived by Muslim jurisconsults and theologians from the 8th to 9th centuries onward, based on their interpretation of Qur’anic verses (for e.g., 9:5,6; 9:29; 4:76-79; 2: 214-15; 8:39-42), and long chapters in the Traditions (i.e., “hadith,” acts and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, especially those recorded by al-Bukhari [d. 869] and Muslim [d. 874]). The consensus on the nature of jihad from all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafi’i) is clear:

Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani (d. 996), Maliki jurist 1

Jihad is a precept of Divine institution. Its performance by certain individuals may dispense others from it. We Malikis [one of the four schools of Muslim jurisprudence] maintain that it is preferable not to begin hostilities with the enemy before having invited the latter to embrace the religion of Allah except where the enemy attacks first. They have the alternative of either converting to Islam or paying the poll tax (jizya), short of which war will be declared against them.

Ibn Taymiyya (d. 1328), Hanbali jurist 2

Since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and God’s word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought. As for those who cannot offer resistance or cannot fight, such as women, children, monks, old people, the blind, handicapped and their likes, they shall not be killed unless they actually fight with words (e.g. by propaganda) and acts (e.g. by spying or otherwise assisting in the warfare).

From (primarily) the Hanafi school (as given in the Hidayah) 3

It is not lawful to make war upon any people who have never before been called to the faith, without previously requiring them to embrace it, because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith, and also because the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war… If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.

al-Mawardi (d. 1058 ), Shafi’i jurist 4

The mushrikun [infidels] of Dar al-Harb (the arena of battle) are of two types: First, those whom the call of Islam has reached, but they have refused it and have taken up arms. The amir of the army has the option of fighting them…in accordance with what he judges to be in the best interest of the Muslims and most harmful to the mushrikun… Second, those whom the invitation to Islam has not reached, although such persons are few nowadays since Allah has made manifest the call of his Messenger…[I]t is forbidden to…begin an attack before explaining the invitation to Islam to them, informing them of the miracles of the Prophet and making plain the proofs so as to encourage acceptance on their part; if they still refuse to accept after this, war is waged against them and they are treated as those whom the call has reached….

In Khaldun (d. 1406), jurist (Maliki), renowned philosopher, historian, and sociologist, summarized these consensus opinions from five centuries of prior Muslim jurisprudence with regard to the uniquely Islamic institution of jihad:

In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force...The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense...Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations. 5

By the time of the classical Muslim historian al-Tabari’s death in 923, jihad wars had expanded the Muslim empire from Portugal to the Indian subcontinent. Subsequent Muslim conquests continued in Asia, as well as on Christian eastern European lands. The Christian kingdoms of Armenia, Byzantium, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Croatia, and Albania – in addition to parts of Poland and Hungary – were also conquered and Islamized. When the Muslim armies were stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1683, over a millennium of jihad had transpired. These tremendous military successes spawned a triumphalist jihad literature. Muslim historians recorded in detail the number of infidels slain or enslaved, the cities and villages which were pillaged, and the lands, treasure, and movable goods seized. Christian (Coptic, Armenian, Jacobite, Greek, Slav, etc.), as well as Hebrew sources, and even the scant Hindu and Buddhist writings that survived the ravages of the Muslim conquests, independently validate this narrative and complement the Muslim perspective by providing testimonies of the suffering of the non-Muslim victims of jihad wars.

But surely the much-lionized Sufi tradition offers a healthy corrective to the so-called “narrow strain” of Islam epitomized by Ibn Taymiyya, and the consensus opinions (cardinal examples cited above) of many other classical scholars representing all four main schools of Sunni Islamic Law. Indeed, the scholar and theologian W.M. Watt wrote that al-Ghazali (d. 1111), the famous theologian, philosopher, and paragon of mystical Sufism, had been:

acclaimed in both the East and West as the greatest Muslim after Muhammad, and he is by no means unworthy of that dignity…He brought orthodoxy and mysticism into closer contact…the theologians became more ready to accept the mystics as respectable, while the mystics were more careful to remain within the bounds of orthodoxy. 6

The 9/11 Commissioners, and those who accept the views stated in their report, should read the lauded al-Ghazali's writings on jihad war to understand that they differ not one whit from the opinions expressed by the demonized Ibn Taymiyya. Below is what al-Ghazali actually wrote about jihad war, and the treatment of the vanquished non-Muslim [dhimmi] peoples (from the Wagjiz, written in 1101 C.E.):

…one must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book – Jews and Christians, typically] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked. A woman and her child taken into slavery should not be separated...One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need…. 7

The Commissioners might also find particularly edifying the writings of two contemporary Muslim scholars of jihad, the late Majid Khadduri, and Bassam Tibi. Majid Khadurri wrote the following in 1955:

Thus the jihad may be regarded as Islam’s instrument for carrying out its ultimate objective by turning all people into believers, if not in the prophethood of Muhammad (as in the case of the dhimmis), at least in the belief of God. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have declared “some of my people will continue to fight victoriously for the sake of the truth until the last one of them will combat the anti-Christ.” Until that moment is reached the jihad, in one form or another will remain as a permanent obligation upon the entire Muslim community. It follows that the existence of a dar al-harb is ultimately outlawed under the Islamic jural order; that the dar al-Islam permanently under jihad obligation until the dar al-harb is reduced to non-existence; and that any community accepting certain disabilities- must submit to Islamic rule and reside in the dar al-Islam or be bound as clients to the Muslim community. The universality of Islam, in its all embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political if not strictly military. 8

And in 1996, Bassam Tibi wrote this:

At its core, Islam is a religious mission to all humanity. Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world. “We have sent you forth to all mankind” (Q. 34:28). If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call (da’wa) can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. In Islam, peace requires that non-Muslims submit to the call of Islam, either by converting or by accepting the status of a religious minority (dhimmi) and paying the imposed poll tax, jizya. World peace, the final stage of the da’wa, is reached only with the conversion or submission of all mankind to Islam…Muslims believe that expansion through war is not aggression but a fulfillment of the Qur’anic command to spread Islam as a way to peace. The resort to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of “opening” the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad. Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur’an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists. Unbelievers who stand in the way, creating obstacles for the da’wa, are blamed for this state of war, for the da’wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it. In other words, those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them. Only when Muslim power is weak is “temporary truce” (hudna) allowed (Islamic jurists differ on the definition of “temporary”). 9

In 1916, the great Dutch scholar of Islam, C. Snouck Hurgronje underscored how the jihad doctrine of world conquest remained a potent force among the Muslim masses 13 centuries later,

[I]t would be a gross mistake to imagine that the idea of universal conquest may be considered as obliterated…the canonists and the vulgar still live in the illusion of the days of Islam’s greatness. The legists continue to ground their appreciation of every actual political condition on the law of the holy war, which war ought never be allowed to cease entirely until all mankind is reduced to the authority of Islam- the heathen by conversion, the adherents of acknowledged Scripture by submission. Even if they admit the improbability of this at present, they are comforted an encouraged by the recollection of the lengthy period of humiliation that the Prophet himself had to suffer before Allah bestowed victory upon his arms; and they fervently join with the Friday preacher, when he announces the prayer taken from the Qur’an: “And lay not upon us, our Lord, that for which we have not strength, but blot out our sins and forgive us and have pity upon us. Thou art our Master; grant us then to conquer the unbelievers.” And the common people are willingly taught by the canonists and feed their hope of better days upon the innumerable legends of the olden time and the equally innumerable apocalyptic prophecies about the future. The political blows that fall upon Islam make less impression…than the senseless stories about the power of the Sultan of Stambul, that would instantly be revealed if he were not surrounded by treacherous servants, and the fantastic tidings of the miracles that Allah works in the Holy Cities of Arabia which are inaccessible to the unfaithful. The conception of the Khalifate still exercises a fascinating influence, regarded in the light of a central point of union against the unfaithful.” 10

Writing a quarter century after Hurgronje in 1942, Professor Arthur Jeffery stressed why detailed consideration of the institution of jihad remained essential, “not merely academic,” for understanding the contemporary Islamic world

for the theory of the world which it enshrines is still fundamental to the thinking of great masses of Muslim people to the present day. The troubles in India which lead up to the great Patna conspiracy trials of 1864 were due to the fact that Syed Ahmad of Oudh had preached against the Sikh cities of the Panjab a Jihad which later turned to one against all non-Muslim groups. The bloody episode of the Padri rebellion in Malaysia was due to the preaching of Jihad against the pagan Battak tribes. The Fula wars in the Hausa country [Western Sudan] in the early nineteenth century, which lead to Osman Dan Fodio’s setting up the ephemeral sultanate of Sokoto, began as a jihad preached against the pagan king of Gobir. The Moplah rebellion in South India in 1921, with its massacres, forcible conversions, desecration of temples, and outrages on the hapless Hindu villagers, could be heard openly proclaimed as a Jihad in the streets of Madras. 11

With the resurgence of jihad military campaigns and major acts of jihad terrorism literally across the globe in the last decades of the 20th century through the present, Jeffery’s additional insights from 62 years ago, resonate prophetically:

It is of course, easy to raise the objection that a Jihad in the old sense is impossible of realization in the modern world, for Islam is far too badly divided for anything like a general Jihad to be contemplated and far too weak in technical equipment for a Jihad to be successful even if started. This does not dispose of the fact, however, that the earlier conception of Jihad has left a deposit in Muslim thinking that is still to be reckoned with in the political relations of the Western world with Islam. 12

This is the history of your "false" religion of "peace.

Son of Infidel
July, 2004

Kaz,

Here are more "facts" concerning the "peaceful" activities of your "Muslim" brothers.

The following took place in the Sudan, an "Islamic" country.

Since 1989 the "Muslims" in the north have been slaugthering the Christians and animists in the south.

Sudan's Slaves by Michael Coren, posted at Frontpage magazine.com 11/25/03

"Women and children abducted in slave raids are roped by the neck or strapped to animals and then marched north. Along the way, many women and girls are repeatedly gang-raped. Children who will not be silent are shot on the spot. In the north, slaves are either kept by individual militia soldiers or sold in markets. Boys work as livestock herders, forced to sleep with the animals they care for".


"Some who try to escape have their Achilles tendons cut to hamper their ability to run. Masters typically use women and girls as domestics and concubines, cleaning by day and serving the master sexually by night. Survivors report being called "Abeed" (black slave), enduring daily beatings, and receiving awful food. Masters also strip slaves of their religious and cultural identities, giving them Arabic names and forcing them to pray as Muslims."

"Another says. "Families were broken up, with children sometimes murdered in front of their mothers as a warning and because they were too much trouble. We cried out to the West, to the countries who said they believed in human rights, but they were indifferent to our agony."

Kaz,


The Most Wretched Place on Earth J. FRASER FIELD

The facts of the matter are not in dispute. The Sudanese regime, centered in the North, has — over the past 17 years — conducted a bloody and genocidal civil war in order to impose Islam on the largely Christian South. An estimated two million Christians and animists have been killed — 90% of them civilian. Five million more have been driven from their homes, and thousands of children have been sold into slavery.


The ideology of "death" and "destruction".