Another sermon full of peace, tolerance, and sanity from the PA. (Yes, that was a sarcastic sentence.) This is noteworthy for its reassertion of the radical Muslim insistence that rule must be according to the Sharia, as well as for its naked hostility and preposterous fantasizing regarding Jews and Americans. From IMRA:
Gaza Palestine Satellite Channel in Arabic, official television station of the Palestinian Authority, carries on 16 July 2004 at 0958 GMT a live sermon from Shaykh Zayid Al Nuhayyan mosque in Gaza....Shaykh Ibrahim Mudayris delivers the sermon, which he devotes to the theme of trust....
The imam also says that fulfillment of trust goes with governing in accordance with the shari'ah. He cites the Koranic verse that says: "And, when you govern among people you must do so fairly." He then says: "Trust was lost when we the rulers stopped ruling as revealed by God. There are more than 60 Muslim states. How many of them rule as revealed by God? If the rulers had lost this trust, where is the trust of the ulema?'
The imam says: "Jews rejoiced the death of the religious scholar Shaykh Abd-al-Aziz Bin-Baz, may his soul rest in peace. They rejoiced his death, believing that the field is now open before them. Here they are trying to spread chaos in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Indeed, Jews are responsible for that. Jews and Americans are behind all this chaos in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, because it is the country of the prophet, may the peace and blessings of God be upon
him, and also because they want to avenge for their ancestors, who were expelled and killed."
What's that? Jews and Americans want to avenge their ancestors, who were expelled and killed? It is refreshing that Sheikh Ibrahim Mudayris acknowledges, and assumes that his hearers will take for granted, that Jews and Christians were indeed expelled from the Arabian Peninsula and killed by Muslims. But the idea that any American actually knows that, or cares to avenge it, is, well, just as farfetched as everything the Sheikh says.
The imam concludes with a general prayer to God for success in the fulfillment of the trust. He prays: "O God, preserve our country and all Muslim countries from every evil. O God, preserve the country of the two holy mosques and the country of the night journey by the prophet, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him. O God preserve holy Al-Azhar from the filth of the Crusaders and Jews."
This is a laugh.....Gaza is a split second away from implosion, and they continue to blame the civilized world for all of the Arabian misfortunes, amazing.
How much chaos would we cause these people if we stopped all food, medication and money to their wild kingdom? They've seen nothing yet.
We hold all of their pathetic existences in our hands.......Fortunately for them, we are compassionate.
DC you have a point...American infidels are horrible sending food, medicines and money to muslim lands....forcing them to eat, receive medical care and well who knows what actually happens to the money, I'm sure the average Joe-MO doesnt see it...but those pesky US infidels should stop at once forcing our charity on muslims....some muslims have already figured us out and have stopped taking our medicines....better to watch your child become horribly crippled from polio than to take infidel vaccinations which the infidels are obviously trying to use to render muslims sterile.....
sarcasm off....
Don't you think that these muslims, due to their superiority to the Infidels in every way, have certainly figured out that the vaccines the Infidels were sending them were really injections to make them all sterile? Surely they've figured out the Infidel's wicked plans!
Oh allah! Only through your mercifulness will the stomachs of the evil and godless non-believers be roasted in hell..
Pauly:
I don't know if you're even reading here anymore, but I wanted to make a point in case you are.
No offense, but just because your friends were "on the ground" in Iraq does not make them experts on the islamic threat that the entire world currently faces. I'm sure that you gleaned some valuable information about the Iraq situation but that is a miniscule part of what this site is about. We are concerned with a global threat, one that threatens our very existence and way of life, and all its consequences. Many here have studied islam for years, others are just beginning to understand the grave nature of the situation we face, but it cannot be summarized in just a paragraph or two. (Well, actually it can, but people usually want factual backup.) If you care about the future of our civilization at all, I urge you to continue reading and learning, and sharing what you learn with others. One thing that you MUST do, if you really want the "whole picture", is to visit the jihadist websites and read exactly what they are saying about their plans to establish a worldwide caliphate (at which point you will be given the option to either "convert or die") and their glee over the prospect of massive destruction, violence and genocide. Take their own word for it, not ours. And realize that the basis for this comes from the very foundational teachings of islam itself, as further reading (Spencer's books, for example) will prove to you. Or the works of a former muslim, Ibn Warraq, who is under threat of death for exposing the truth about islam's history and tenets. You can search for these sites yourself, or Susan B will give you further guidance; you can contact her at susan_b356@yahoo.com. I'm sure other regulars will also be happy to post links to their "favorite" jihadist websites. If you truly want to examine "all sides" of an issue, don't leave them out.
Don't you think that these muslims, due to their superiority to the Infidels in every way, have certainly figured out that the vaccines the Infidels were sending them were really injections to make them all sterile? Surely they've figured out the Infidel's wicked plans!
Oh allah! Only through your mercifulness will the stomachs of the evil and godless non-believers be roasted in hell..
Posted by: Mahdi Al-Dajjal at July 19, 2004 12:49 PM
OK, who's the prankster posing as an intolerant, racist Muslim? I mean, for someone to make these statements is either drunk, or just plain dumb.......By the way Ali Haji Sheik Habib Smith, no I don't believe that there are many medications in the Middle East that were derived from that region. It's also quite apparent that not much in the way of food can be grown in sand.
Superior in every way? Did you mean to say inferior?
Oh, wait a tick, you're right. Muslims are by far the dominant force in the exercise of hacking off the body parts of non-Muslims and even black Muslims (Sudan) with their machetes.
They're also, incidentally, the dumbest cult on the rock with a 62% worldwide illiteracy rate. Congratulations on your superiority.
Trouble is, the superior ones, you and yours, have brought machetes to a missle fight. Dunces the lot of you. You mentioned non-believers. We believe, but it is in a true God and a true savior, not some drunken rapist false prophet and a black rock he carried around like a lunch pail, calling it his God.......Shar'ia law will be exterminated like the plague it is. Radical Islamists and their racist, bigoted, elitest attempts of ethnic cleansing will join it in the lake of fire.
Wish you were here. I'd take great enjoyment in demonstrating to you how we embrace Islam, right around its throat. Your end is coming soon.
Requiescat in pace.....
DC~ There's half a chance that person was being Sarcastic...
Mahdi Al-Dajjal....that was hilarious, simply hilarious sarcasm. You are a funny, funny person. Thanks, I need a good laugh today.
There, I've now covered both sides of the coin.....
This is hilarious. Arafat fiddles while Gaza burns. It warms my heart to see the worlds oldest terrorist challenged by his bloodthirsty brood.
A billion muslims can't create anything but death and destruction. A few million jews continue to advance while islam stagnates in its' poison swamp. Good riddance, islam.
Your grandchildren will work in a jewish deli, raisin.
yabba dabba akbar!
What we're all witnessing is phase one in an overplayed drama, the dissolution of deranged and flawed vision. These people are nothing more than orny Jordanians who will eventually go home after wasting their lives agitating for a free ride. How can anyone not see the irony here, Arafat, an Egyptian national who went to a foreign land bringing death and misery with his quasi socialist agenda mixed with the most abhorrent form of racism. Its really one for the ages, interlopers descending upon a society bringing a bag full of suffering and people like fools play along to there own deteriment, how about a new fable: "HiJack and the Beanstalk". Unlike the soviet union, whose collapse was marked by a state of ennui as no was willing to kill for the lies any longer. Not so in Gaza and the WB as all eyes turn to the troublesome troubadours who made fools of them.
Israel should set up bleachers on the wall, it would be a well deserved spectacle for intifada victims and their families to witness the fools immolate themselves, raging with a passion only attainable when one is forced to confront the inevitable consequences of their moral and intellectual errors; no palestinian state and the collapse of this ideology as a sustainable movement. Arafat will be lucky if they just kill him, somehow something worse seems is store. Don't count on CNN showing him being skinned alive.
CGW
No I haven’t left. I just figured I’d not bother you people with my questions and just hit this web page from time to time and just read & learn. Thank you for you insight. I won’t say whom my friends are that just came back but they were there for a very long time. As far as being experts on the Muslim nation, we never really got that far, but they did seem to know quite a bit about them. Guess of you live with these people for that long you learn a thing or two. Are they as learned as you all here are? I’m not sure, I’ll have them come to this web page soon and let them answer that one. Either way the stories, pictures and movies were not what I had expected.
I like you idea of going to the Islamic web sight and getting their side of the story. I’ll do just that. So who is this Susan B that I’ll be e-mailing? Should I mention your user name or this web sight?
Thanks for your help CGW.
Pauly
My first post was removed, so I’ll tone it down a bit.
I wanted to thank the ones who took the time to answer a few of my questions. Being a division 1 football official, I have lots of friends asking me all sorts of ruling questions. Being that a lot of their questions are so in-depth, I guess I could just refer them to a book. But like some of you here, I gave them at least enough good information for them to digest. To you people I say Thanks.
To the ones who were less than polite I say Bite me! I did my time with the U.S. Marine Corp, I saw combat. I’ve felt the stress of combat and I pulled the trigger. Any time there is a possibility to avoid war, I’ll be all for it. I don’t know as much about these Muslims as you all do but to call a person names (i.e. Sissy boy, loony liberal)…well, you’re not worth my time.
Remember there is a big internet out there with a lot of apposing views, and you’d be surprised how many statistics & arguments they can come up to support their position. Everybody sounds so creatable and passionate about where they’re coming from. So be careful whom you call gullible, there is a lot of information out there to get confused with. Also remember that some people who come to this sight and don’t exactly understand your anger or urgency to the situation may be looking for information to questions…and not necessarily a fight.
I’ll be stopping by from time to time to read and listen, but I’ll probably keep my questions to myself. I will make time here in the next month or so to read those books that you all suggested, if anything, out of idle curiosity.
It’s obvious you all are caring people and have passion and conviction for what going on, and for that I commend you. Keep up the good work and good luck to you all.
And Raza, if I have anything to say about it, my grand kids will live where they are not defined by somebody else. And when your countrymen hear that helicopter coming their way; tell them to not run…they'll only die tired.
Pauly
Pauly:
Susan B is a JW regular who is currently unable to post due to problems with the TypeKey system. Mention Jihad Watch in the subject line of your e-mail; she already knows who you are and offered to provide you with sources.
Proverbs 4:19
"But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness;
they do not know what makes them stumble."
Curses for Disobedience
Deut. 28:
15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.
17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.
18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out........
All what I can say is that the muslims are confused, they are now superblind and do not know who to blame again,hence they turn to the innocents. The lord has totally confused them.
Oh yes, before I go Reza and other muslims, Your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will be working on our church's cocoa plantation in the tropical forest of West Africa.
Written by,
Dase (SWT).
So that I will not forget to say it over and over again.
JESUS IS LORD, NO CONTROVERSY.
DASE (SWT).
Pauly,
I have been visiting this site for a few months and this is the first time I have actually felt like responding. So.... here I am!
I totally agree with your perception of some of the posters on this web site. There are times that I feel they are to quick to judgments and name-calling. However, when a person is writing down an argument it often times sounds more intense than it is. I realize you almost certainly know this already but I wanted to express it to you myself.
I have enjoyed your freshness and your questions. I don’t know everything either and I have been studying Islam for ten years. I read and studied the Koran when reading it wasn’t a requirement in knowing your enemy. These kind people don’t have all the answers either or their name would be God.
I encourage you to stay and continue to post and ask questions. Challenge people to give you the straight talk. It is so important to our survival, that people like you take an interest in what is going on in the world. Don’t give your power to others by allowing yourself to feel angry, hurt, or misunderstood because of another’s opinion. We all have an opinion, right or wrong, and in order to use Jihad Watch to its completeness, we have to occasionally agree to disagree.
Putting all of this into perspective, I guess what I am really trying to say is that we, the Infidels, need people like you to join the crusade against the obtuse Muslim cult. Education is the key to eradicating this problematic faction.
Now, as for Reza.... I truly enjoy the ranting of this Muslim, better to know the enemy.
On another forum tonight I had a 2 month old thread deleted by a forum admin because he disagreed with my stand on Islam.
He was an American and a friend of mine.
This just goes to show you that we are in greater danger than I even thought. I spent many hours doing my best to be objective and enlightening only to be met with censorship.
We must never refrain from speaking the truth. We must never apologize for it.
We must never give in to the enemies, either overseas or in our midst.
This War is getting more personal by the day.
Pauly
Sticks and stones can break your bones and names can never hurt you this is a rythm that you need to learn and understand ?
The Muslums are throwing stones and they can kill you and yours? and this is what they are doing all over the world to understand them is fine but to fight them is more important!!
Seams that you have done some thinking sence you frist showed up here bashing the President?
Glad to see you have a brain and it is not totaly full of mush?
CGW tell susan B to ck her suricity rating that was part of my problem mac. was not set to take cookies?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to victory Amen
Foehammer:
Several people I know here have had a similar experience with "old friends".
Myself as well: in my building lives a man with whom I was acquainted back in my student days, long ago.
After we'd met again, for two years or so, we visited one another pretty regularly and talked enjoyably, with great interest, on an extensive range of topics, including politics (in which he struck me as a moderate and pragmatist).
However, with the outbreak of the campaign in Iraq, he suddenly turned upon me, gravely insulting me in the street, the elevator, the hall and in the lobby, snarling, spitting, wild-eyed.
Within weeks, I found out why. When I was watching a Left-radical show on TV, I spotted him - unmistakable - in the background, assisting in the erection of a podium for the speakers who were soon to be featured for the anti-American rally about to be screened.
He's a "Deep Green" - and he has been for years (I've since learnt) - but never once did he breath a single word of this to me - till, I guess, he could restrain himself no longer, knowing my own candid stance on the score.
This is a WAR, after all - we all lose friends in war; it's never pleasant. Sad, though, to lose one to the enemy by DEFECTION....
Oh dear, Allah doesn't seem to be favouring The Faithful, does He? Those sons and daughters of Pigs and Monkeys are doing so much better than Muslims in the real World. Why is that? Not enough
beheadings or stonings, not enough 'fragrant blood' spilt at the altar of Allah?? Muslims not prostrating themselves lower at Prayers... Perhaps, Muslims are watching too much T.V. Maybe
some leading lights of Islam such as Osama B. might consider blowing themselves up as 'fragrant sacrifices' to gain Allah's favour. But then again
'Pigs might fly...'
Foehammer:
On the same subject as above, one of my colleagues at work has told me that her PhD Supervisor, after a year of maintaining a professional attitude, several days ago snapped, unleashing a tirade of antisemitic (she's not Jewish), personal and Arabist invective at her.
She's now transferring to a different university to finish her doctorate, because she was mortally shocked at how reflexively so many other academics in this particular department immediately joined her Supervisor to excoriate her so vituperously - indeed, now she doesn't wish to set her foot on that campus ever again.
Wot a surprise: shifting blame, a senior “Palestinian” Imam (echoing the words of a prominent Saudi cleric some weeks back), accuses Israel and America of being culpable for the terrorism pervading the dar el-Islam - in this case, in Saudi Arabia (the actual Moslem “Holy Land”)!
Without recounting here more than a century of Arab hostility towards the return of the Jews to Zion, since 1948, the Arabs’ve shamelessly, ceaselessly USED the existence of a Jewish State in Israel as not simply an excuse for continuing terrorism, but - vitally - to keep tacked together the fabrication of “Palestinian Nationalism” (an enterprise ongoing in earnest from the later 1950s).
Unrelieved decades of conditioning and propaganda, repeating the absolute PRIMACY of destroying Israel, have served to coalesce the “Palestinian” Arabs somewhat, letting them “modernize” their primitive, atavistic Jihad into a 20th Century “National Liberation Struggle”. But much more vitally, the basic Arab rejectionism’s an indispensable tool for “Palestine”’s hyper-cynucal “Revolutionary Leadership” to totally, perennially divert its afflicted populace’s attention, hours and resources away from any objective truth or Law or reason, and far indeed from where the REAL responsibility lies - with their fascist “Leaders”’ gross opportunism
The “Palestinian” “government”’s convinced its population (and nowadays, the millions of Araby and beyond).that EVERYTHING BAD is the fault of Israel. Employing this dogma ad nauseum as a set of blinders, for decades they’ve been callously pushing their people further into the cul-de-sac they find themselves lost in agitation in now, headlong down a regressive spiral.
The PLO, then the PA, joining several years ago with Islamist militants, have been riding a tiger, which they’ve deliberately maddened themselves. To date (with the Devil’s own Luck and trading heavily on the excessive ignorance, denial, self-delusion, defeatism, venality and cravenness permeating the “international community”), they’ve largely managed roughly to channel - if seldom to control, and NEVER to counter - the “culture of violence” which they’ve intentionally cultivated in contemporary, hughly radicalized, “Palestinian” society.
Tragically, “Palestine’s Leaders” presently means Yasir Arafat, the “President” of the PA/PLO-Hamas-Jihad Islami-“Pal” Hezbollah. If this “rebellion”, Arafat’s current gambit to re-establish his personal power, openly, in “Palestine” (and on the world stage) doesn’t work, he’s kaput and well he knows it - he fears his old “nine lives” charm’s running out, at this strained juncture.
Once he’s out of the picture (odds of it being SOON, conservatively at 50/50) - especially after Israel’s out of the Gaza Strip and the great majority of the West Bank, due next year - all of the seething, barely-contained mayhem within “Palestine” will burst out, with a vengeance, to engulf it, as feudal, criminal, politico-factional, etc, rifts blaze up into bloody chaos, fully unrestrained.
This week’s skirmishes in Gaza are mere preliminaries for an impending “Palestinian” civil war, reflections of an artificially contrived polity that’s fraught with harsh divisions, perched today on the edge of collapse. Alas, the flimsy entity of “Palestine”’s isn’t at all equipped to cope with the coming anarchy that it’s summoned down upon itself, when the prevailing façade of “authority” in “Palestine” finally evaporates (one way or another) - in days, a month, or a year or so at most. - Here's hopin'.