It is a sad commentary on the American academic establishment. From CNSNews.com, with thanks to Nicolei:
Paris (CNSNews.com) - A Swiss-born Muslim scholar scheduled to begin teaching at a U.S. university next month is a controversial figure in Europe, where he is accused of anti-Semitism and advocating violence against women.Tariq Ramadan plans to teach at Indiana's Notre Dame University, instructing students on Islam, conflict and peace building.
Ramadan is the grandson of Hassan Al-Banna, the Egyptian founder of the radical Muslim Brotherhood.
With a perfect command of the language and a tailored western look, he is well-known in France, where disaffected Muslim youths listen to his speeches on Islamic pride. But some municipalities have barred him from speaking because he is considered a threat to public order.
Ramadan has denied allegations in the French media that European agencies suspect him of meeting with senior al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri in Geneva, in 1991.
Late last year, in a television debate with French government minister Nicolas Sarkozy, Ramadan refused to condemn "lapidation" - the stoning of adulterous women, a punishment that is carried out under strict interpretations of the Koran.
Actually this punishment comes from the Hadith. But the point still holds.
A public outcry followed the publication of an article in which Ramadan accused French intellectuals of being pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian purely for sectarian reasons -- that is, because they were Jewish. They were placing their religion above their obligation as scholars, he charged.Not all the intellectuals he singled out were, in fact, Jews. The article brought him vitriol at a time when France has seen a rise in anti-Jewish violence, often originating in the Muslim community.
"His thoughts seem European and appeal to Muslims living in the West," said Yonathan Arfi, president of the Union of Jewish Students of France. "And then he talks about 'lapidation.' We took a long time to understand his discourse, but now he has been unmasked."
Another hatemonger spewing his vitriol of hate under the guise of academia......the Left leaning intelectuals should be waiting with abated breath for this mental masturbation to begin.
So sad to learn that Notre Dame did not reconsider the use of this hate-spewing lecturer. The "Fighting Irish" should now be changed to the "Dhimmis of Notre Dame" as they will be brainwashed losers.
This is the frightening thing about Muslim men.They can look,talk and seem like agreeable Western companions and it is easy to get taken in. One of us, we think...Then conversation
turns to Religion and you say what you think of Mohammed...End of story.But you get the feeling that after insulting their Prophet , stoning [sorry I mean lapidation] would be too easy a death at their hands. Scary, eh! Catherine...where is your gun...
First Georgetown U, now Notre Dame. We have seen a pattern where once-fine-old Catholic universities are giving aid and comfort to Islamists and their agenda. What will they do when the Muslims try to take over the entire universities and claim them as "Islam's 57th holiest site"? Because you know that is what will happen.
http://knowislam.info/forum/
A new forum by a female ex-Muslim.
This is one of the most dangerous
of the intellectual mo-men kind . . .
his honeyed words drip
from a forked tongue,
and form a soft cocoon around the mind
that brings a waking sleep,
and a deep denial of the truth
of his evil message.
How stupid of the jesuits
to welcome the fox
into the hen house
to eat all the young chicks.
epg writes:
Or maybe they could be called the Fightin' Mujahadin.
Here's another one for Professor Robinson. Will the "lapidation" section of the Maldivian criminal code include weight and shape specifications for the "lapidation" objects? When I lived in Saudi Arabia for five years in the late 80s they just used construction rubble lying about in empty lots in the city center like large pieces of broken cinder blocks and bricks. Picture a fervent mob of the faithful fresh from Friday prayers smashing the brains out of a hapless teenage girl whose only crime may be that of falling in love with the wrong boy. There's your "lapidation" for you. There's Islamic "justice" and that's one of the many reasons the Islamic ideology must be expunged from the planet.
it may interest readers to learn of the similarities between islam and catholicism:
'catholicism and islam: ties that bind':
http://thebereancall.org/Newsletters/2002+Newsletters/4463.aspx
What is the matter with the government????
Would they have let Hitler's minions into the USA to teach mien Kampf to the masses, brainwashing everyone as to how "good" it was?
the matter with the govenment is that it is representative of the people who live in it.
this is a great failure of 'democracy'.
the leaders of a democracy simply reflect the values of their people who elect them.
so obviously america is at its lowest with the acceptance of the most repugnant vicious ideology in history.
america fits the biblical title: MYSTERY BABYLON.
i also think its highly significant that an american president is the new king of literal babylon irag.
1 plus 1 = 2
Wow, in that case we made a good choice in electing W, didn't we? Hey, I know he's not the most conservative president ever, but he's definitely on that side of the fence and he's a Christian, too. So does that reflect my values? You betcha. No failure here!
Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised. The Vatican believes women are baby-production machines, nothing more. Other Christian churches have embraced women's equality in citizenship and spirituality, but not the Vaticrats.
Now we hear from the Vats that "radical feminists" want to destroy the family. Someone should tell the brain-diminished Pope that women work to keep a roof over the heads of their families, not for any radical feminist agenda.
Meanwhile, Catholic churches are selling property to pay off the lawsuits from pervert priests. But they still feel entitled to lecture us about morality, and the press pays attention.
POETESS - Great Poem
Yes, these Islamists with their Western 'veneer'
and disarming small talk, who invade our universities are probably more dangerous than gun
toting Terrorists. The intellectual Jihadist finds
willing tools in the Left PC Loonies who are to be found in large numbers in such academic places of learning.Like poison, distilled by Masters of Islamic deceit and Taqqiya, their doctrine will soon enslave the weak and enter the
bloodstream of the body host...Those who dare to argue and protest against this will be intimidated and silenced one by one until only a few bother : rewarded by being branded RACIST or ISLAMOPHOBE.
Those of you who have engaged in Catholic bashing should lose that mindset immediately. This is not a time and place to grind axes and try to diminish one religion or another. Anyone who is standing against Islam should be focusing on who the real enemy is, not focusing on people they simply do not like in modern society. I am quite willing to ally with gays, communists, Democrats, Republicans, atheists, etc, in order to stop radical Islam. All the differences in social mindset will not matter if all live under the Sharia. Capiche?
As for what the Pope has said lately about Islam and the Crusades, I, as a Catholic, feel betrayed, angry and feel that it is definitely time for a change of leadership, to clear out the perverts in the parishes and to present a united face against Islamic tyranny.
Thank you.
The Catholic Pope and the top hierarchy of the Roman church have recognized that the triumph of Islam is inevitable. The Pope has prayed behind the imams in mosques, kissed the Holy Quran, and accepted Allah (swt) as the one true God without partners. The Catholic Church is moving slowly but deliberately to bring its adherents to Islam without unduly upsetting them. The establishment of Islamic studies and dawa in Catholic universities (e.g., Georgetown, Notre Dame) is part of this campaign.
Now is the time to accept the truth. Abandon your false beliefs and embrace Islam. Live in peace in submission to the commands of Almighty Allah (swt).
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar
Blah. You remind me of the little weird girl in Dune.
My grandchildren will not be muslim. In fact, by the time my yet unborn grandchildren are grown, Islam will be either be drastically reformed or illegal in Western countries. It might even be permanently defunct, which would be a blessing to humanity.
The pope may be old and fragile, but the Roman Catholic Church is still a powerful institution; organized, coherent, disciplined, hierarchical, incredibly wealthy, and cohesive----the antithesis of Islam. The ersatz "scholars" of blasphemy (Islam) are no match for the intellect and sophistication of Catholic theologians. There will be a new pope soon, and some radical changes in the Vatican's attitude toward imperialistic Islam are on the horizon.
Islam is a virulent abomination, a Satanic anathema. I almost pity the hapless, brainwashed victims of this barbaric cult, who blindly accept a perverse doctrine of immoral filth and barbarism. You are pathetic.
REZA/OLD RAISIN/SULTANA
Your children[swt] will marry Infidels[swt] eat pork[swt] and run a Forum for Apostates[swt].
To Robert and all DW posters ,readers. We should contact Opus Del, Catholic League,Notre Dame University our churches and Notre Dame alumi and newspapers and T.V. news shows like O'reilly Factor on Foxnews.Remember he is the one who unmask Sami Al Arian. Tell them about Tarig Ramadan.What he said what he thinks.His suspected ties to Al Qaeda.Newsclips,interviews,articles and books. To put pressure to stop this.
REZA ,once Muslims have slaughtered all the infidels,who will be left to read books for
followers of the pedophile murderer misogenist
mohammed.
Not one Islamic Country builds TV's,airplanes,radio's,cars and bars of soap
or breath mints. I doubt western Muslims with want to return to the 7th century and ride donkeys
and drink polluted water,or is all suffering part of Allahs devine will for his automatrons to endure.
Susanp:
Well said. My sentiments EXACTLY.
unfortunately catholic theology competes with islam
for star status as replacement theology adherents.
there is no room for the state of israel in catholic theology: the 'Church' is the new israel.
the catholic church would love to see the muslims destroy israel.
Forrest (or should I call you Mr. Shalom?):
You may have heard about a little meeting of Catholic Chuch leaders some 40 odd years ago (and very odd odd years they have been) called VATICAN II. The Catholic Church explicitly ruled out "replacement theology" which I know is a very trendy bogeyman among Jews. Get over it. Stop fighting the LAST war. You may be concerned about losing Jewish souls to prosletyzing, but that is the price of living in a free society. Christians don't blow them selves up in Tel Aviv pizza parlours.
Teach your children Judaism. What are YOU talking to them about?
"Therefore you shall you set these My words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as symbols between your eyes. You shall teach them to your children, speaking of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up." If you aren't doing this, don't blame Catholics.
P.S.
Reza,
Your grandchildren will attend the Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia.
the Messiah brought in the new covenant for both jews and gentiles. the mosaic covenant was terminated at the death Messiah on the cross.
rcc theology is based on augustine's allegorical
method of intepreting the bible i.e. 'making it mean any thing one chooses'
to understand the bible, keep it in context and literal. simple.
the pope has already bowed to allah, so i would hope many catholics recognize the ramifications of this and leave the church.
What an exercise in futility it is to debate the many "interpretations" of the abrogated Jewish and Christian "scriptures". Allah (swt) sent the Angel Jabraaeel (as) to dictate the Holy Quran to His (swt) Prophet (saw) precisely because evil men had corrupted those earlier revelations. More than 50,000 specific errors have been identified in the Jewish and Christian books. No errors of any kind have ever been discovered in the Quran.
Is it not time to reject the false beliefs of the past and acknowledge the pure truth of Islam? Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the commands of Almighty Allah (swt). Be part of the bright, shining future of an Islamic world, not a forgotten part of the dim, dark past.
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar
Of course that also goes for the now abrogated defunct ideology of Islam by the Babi and Bahai scriptures.
Allahu abha
REZA/OLD RAISIN/SULTANA
Happy news for you is that there are 2 BILLION CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD as opposed to 1.2 Billion
Muslims.Also, contrary to Muslim claims, CHRISTIANITY IS WORLD'S FASTEST GROWING RELIGION.
CRUSADERS are winning in Theological stakes. Too bad,eh. Despite 1,400 yrs of killing Christians, Buddhists etc, the way of the cross triumphs over
Rock God Allah and Sharia Law. Also this should send a clear sign and warning to someone as ignorant and superstious as yourself. GOD IS WITH
THE CRUSADERS AND IS PUNISHING AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, THE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM.Rivers of blood will flow but it won't be ours...
Reza says, "Allah (swt) sent the Angel Jabraaeel (as) to dictate the Holy Quran to His (swt) Prophet (saw) precisely because evil men had corrupted those earlier revelations. More than 50,000 specific errors have been identified in the Jewish and Christian books. No errors of any kind have ever been discovered in the Quran."
the poetess laughs, "Ha, ha, ha,
the only evidence of errors
are from mo who couldn't write, right?,
who heard from gabriel
who heard from your moon god allah
and you in your ignorance believed the lie.
Why? Because you, like mo,
have a tribal lust for power,
have a love for others to cower,
want to be the big man of the hour . . .
HA HA HA HA!
Reza
your sword is rusty
and your spear, well,
that's a sad story
that doesn't end well.
Good God. Look people, everyone who isn't a Moslem or Moslem sympathizer/wannabe is on the same side of this struggle. Everyone who wishes to remain free and undisturbed in their lives has to tolerate each other and work together long enough to make sure western society will stay safe for another few hundred years. It does no one (except the Jihadists) any good for people to start bashing each other. The more isolated everyone here feels because of religious belief, the easier it is for the Moslems to win, okay? Does that not penetrate anyone's superthick skulls? If you value freedom and the ability to practice your chosen religion (or lack thereof), then you all need to apologize to each other right now for anything said in anger and agree to work together. Otherwise, just remember that you'll be part of the last or next to last free generation in the world.
Well I see that there are a lot of hate against the Catholic Church, very beautiful this is for forrestshalom, is in Spanish I know:
http://www.congresojudio.org.ar/index.htm?index_top_oji.htm%7Cindex_left_oji.asp%7Chttp%3A//www.congresojudio.org.ar/nota.asp%3Fnrooji%3D734%26id%3D20
This say that the Vatican puts in the same horrible place the antisionism and the antisemitism, in my opinion as a catholic and a friend of Israel is a great news,
Respect to the Notre Dame conference, well, I´m very angry, I don´t have any love to Tariq Ramadan, is a islamist and a dangerous man and they don´t want neither in switzerland nor in Egypt, his fatherland, I have sadness for this invitation.
Respect the comentaries of the catholicism is similar to islam, I have to say that I´m very angry and I hope where are Teresa´s de Calcuta in islam, where are people in catholicism that is agree with lapidation, with mutilation, with suicide bomber, where are the yihad in catholicism, yes I know, you say to me the Crusades and the Inquisition, yes I know,but I know that Luther makes a lot of writings against jews and farmers, I know that Calvin orders to burn the scientist Miguel Servet The discover of pulmonar circulation and I know too that the protestants german authorities orders the burning of witches in the number of 500,000 and too the burning of witches for the american puritan authorities.
And this things there aren´t in the New Testament.
Well, I only ask for respect for my religion as I respect protestants and other religions, we are speaking about islam, thanks
Why Forrest, you tease, what are you so upset about replacement theology for? You use a Jewish shibboleth and then, lo and behold, preach your own brand of replacement theology.
Who elected you Pope? You take the Catholic scriptures and construct your own religion and believe you have the answers?
Jesus says he came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Since you read the Bible literally I guess Jesus meant an animal that had wool on his back and hooves on his feet, eating grass on a mountainside so steep.
Oh, wait-- it has to be read in context. YOUR context. The context you are too blind to see is just another interpretative tradition.
The Vatican's position on Islam is that it is a human attempt to understand God --a religion, an instance of man reaching for God, not a revelation which is God reaching for man. Vatican II says Islam has SOME truth and SOME goodness despite Islam's horrible flaws which are well documented here at JW and DW.
You and Reza write against that kind of generosity of spirit. You two are quite similar in your rants.
Your grandchildren will read Flannery O'Connor.