British Muslims charged with plotting terror attacks in USA

Well, looks like the Quakers have struck again. Or maybe they were Hare Krishnas. Or most likely, they were Buddhists. No, wait... I've got it! They were Jews! No? Well they MUST have been Christians then... probably those crazy Snake Handlers from Appalachia, or Mormons. No? Well maybe they were Jehovah's Witnesses? Hmmmm. I know there have been a lot of "religious" terrorists caught lately; too bad we can't narrow that down a bit, eh?

But seriously, folks...remember when that Hollywood guy, James Woods, said he was on the same Boston-LA flight the terrorists used for 911, a couple months before 911? Someone said he was racist or whatever for pointing out it was Arabic-looking guys. He said (something like) when you consider the terrorist attacks of the last forty years, it's not guys from Norway that we have to worry about. Or something like that...does anyone remember the exact quote?

(And can we try to leave politics out for this comment and work together to make everyone aware of the jihad threat?)

So, they were going to launch either a chemical or a radioactive attack against us, heh? Well then, I would recommend that they be drained of all useful information by any & all means possible. They have no right to the protections afforded by the Geneva convention. Those rules were drawn up to afford protection & standardized treatment for military personnel who had been captured & removed from the battle for the duration of the conflict. Both sides were expected to adhere to a code of honor in their battles against their respective enemy & in their treatment of each other's prisoners. In the war against islam, the muslims have no honor, no shame, no balls. They launch attacks against unsuspecting innocents & to their sick way of "thinking" the more women & children they slaughter increases the horror & revulsion & terror. These slime have not earned any "human rights", nor do they deserve protection, kindness, understanding. After all usefull info has been extracted I would divide them into 2 separate rooms with a clear, impermeable common wall. In one room radiation should be introduced in dosages which will lead to death over the course of several weeks.....not quickly, let them experience the full horror of a slow death due to radiation sickness. In the other room, introduce a lethal chemical which will lead to their death over the same period of time. Leave the lights on 24 hours/day & LET THE A-HOLES WATCH EACH OTHER DIE!!!

Who the hell are these 'British Muslims'? Who the heck do they think they are? I recall reading an opinion here on JW that all these should be loaded off on board a ship and left to themselves somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic.

Or why don't we just flush them back to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan where they come from and ought to be? They don't want any of us infidels in their islamic lair, why should we suffer their disturbing, to say the least, presence?

Sure, I'll keep politics out of it. I don't remember the James Woods quote, but even famous actors are not immune to the
incredible "correctness" that classifies an ideology as a race. You'll never see the equating any of the previously mentioned religions in KJ's post with a specific ethnicity - only Islam is afforded such protection.

"Who the hell are these 'British Muslims'? Who the heck do they think they are? I recall reading an opinion here on JW that all these should be loaded off on board a ship and left to themselves somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. "

Have you been to London, recently?

(Doing my best Reza impersonation)

You infidels are so paranoid! What did these muslim brothers do wrong that they now must be kept in your disgusting abusive prisons. Its obvious that these were honest good muslims who probably were studying decadent western architecture and were told to evalute the plans of the buildings for a college class. Maybe their professor set them up and then called the police. Its so sad that muslims today can't even own plans of a building or instruction manual without being labelled a terrorist.

Your children will be.... (blah blah)

Oh, the devil. I forget the columnists' name, who wrote about that some years back, when Schwartzenegger made that movie 'True Lies.' The islamofascists complained about it... and the gent in question wrote an article parodying the idiots by talking about Scottish terrorists.

(Sends some Haggis to KJ *s* )

One wonders why islamofascists want to live in cold climates, anyway. And if the Jet Stream stays south of the Great Lakes this winter, the guys in my neighborhood (literally, just two blocks over) are going to see some Serious cold.

Recently CAIR posted a article about a Mosque
being attacked by Islamophobes,it occured in Hamilton Ontario. Seems just yesterday Police nabbed a fire-bomber in Hamilton and his home had bomb making equipement. The report on TV didn't mention any religion or race and Nationality,these are the tell-tale sign of a minority group or a Muslim that the media wants to protect from backlash. Haven't Muslims caught on yet,when the media fails to reveal basic information it's just as damning as saying it's a Muslim male from XYZ Islamic State out to avenge the injustice to Palestinians.

The gloves are off and I hope "FATBOY" Sadr
gets his "just desserts" soon,our restraint has been misread by Muslims to think it's a weakness,oh are they in for a big surprise.When Mosques are empty they are only buildings,if Allah lives inside the bricks and mortar that's idolatry and taking out a Mosque won't matter.
CAIR and all other supporter of Al-Qaeda will be very sorry they chose backing Satan and Muhammed.

Better yet, Jim, we inform the Jihadists that if they detonate a chemical or nuclear weapon on US soil, we will retaliate with the overwhelming and disproportionate use of nuclear force on Muslim lands. If a radioactive dirty bomb goes off in Manhattan, we drop a 25 megaton nuclear warhead on Mecca, and then destroy Khartoum for good measure. Chemical attack in LA? Mushroom clouds over Medina and Tehran.
If they want a war, let's give them something to REALLY think about.

KJ, now with this M.O., it sure sounds like the Seventh Day Adventists that were planning this act of terror.......

Recently CAIR posted a article about a Mosque
being attacked by Islamophobes,it occured in Hamilton Ontario. Seems just yesterday Police nabbed a fire-bomber in Hamilton and his home had bomb making equipement. The report on TV didn't mention any religion or race and Nationality,these are the tell-tale sign of a minority group or a Muslim that the media wants to protect from backlash. Haven't Muslims caught on yet,when the media fails to reveal basic information it's just as damning as saying it's a Muslim male from XYZ Islamic State out to avenge the injustice to Palestinians.

Posted by: ala-sux at August 17, 2004 02:34 PM

What the Muslims need to understand is that we have the freedom of deciding whom we do and do not like. We happen to not think too highly of Islam(jeez I wonder why), this does not make any of us "Islamophobes" I know I don't fear them, and I doubt anyone else here does either. So, Hooper, where is the Islamophobia?

The fact that someone hates Islam because of what it stands for, that makes them afraid of it? That makes no sense. The pillars of the community over at CAIR should try to come up with terminology that better fits the actual description of the hundreds of millions of people that have no respect for Islam. Islamophobe is inappropriate in term.

More butchering of our beloved English language.

Rottweiler - I'm with you on that one! I would expand it even further & say that if they manage to successfully detonate one here or in any of our allies' countries, then the kid-gloves have got to come off, the military must be unchained & we will need to fight to win completely & overwhelmingly!

Amen, Jim. Last time I checked we were fighting a freakin' WAR here!!

In the immortal words of William Tecumseh Sherman "War is Hell and you can't refine it". Why we're refining it in Iraq and elsewhere is beyond me...

Sooner or later the inevitable will take place because we will be pushed too far. The American people will only take so much. Islamists have been lulled into believing that nothing much will happen to them as we didn't make a massive retaliatory strike after 9/11. At the next incident, there will be no holding back...

epq,

I agree that the average citizen will have had enough by then and will act but the citizenry will not be able to do much without the US Military fully engaged.

And with some weak-kneed yellow-bellied lily-livered leftist liberal, like John F-ing Kerry, in the oval office, the US Military might not be allowed to act for fear of upsetting muslims.

In otherwords, the average citizen may end up completely on their own AND, I fear, may actually have military forces engaging them to protect muslims..

"The pillars of the community over at CAIR should try to come up with terminology that better fits the actual description of the hundreds of millions of people that have no respect for Islam."
Posted by: DCWatson at August 17, 2004 03:03 PM

Although I am not to be mistaken for a pillar "of the community over at CAIR", may I suggest this as our collective descriptive moniker:

"Civilized Human Beings"

At Frontpage.com there's a new article called The War on Terror:Four Key Concepts by Mark Goldblatt. He takes the same position as Lee Harris in "Civilization and Its Enemies" in that he says that each successful strikes by Islamofascists only hastens the end of their movement, 9/11 was the beginning of the end. The author envisions two scenerios one leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims the other to deaths of millions of Muslims. Both ending with the crushing of Islamofacisms. Here's what he writes.

There are, in fact, only two conceivable scenarios by which the requisite pan-Islamic upheaval will happen. The more humane scenario is the one being pursued by the Bush Administration--that is, establish a democratic Iraq in the heart of Islam and hope that it inspires moderate Muslims to reject the radical elements among them. The cost, in this case, will surely be tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of Muslim lives.

But what if democracy in Iraq fails outright? Or what if it survives but fails to inspire the overwhelming majority of Muslims to reject the radicals? In that case, Islamic terrorism continues unabated. What follows then is the "Hobbesian" scenario Harris sketches: Sooner or later, the United States will take one hit too many, or one hit too catastrophic, and the American people will set aside their natural aversion to mass bloodshed and demand a disproportionate response. They’ll elect a government which promises to end the threat, permanently, whatever the cost--and the cost will likely be millions of Muslim lives. Like the German and Japanese civilians in 1945, Muslim civilians from North Africa through the Persian Gulf and down into Southeast Asia will at last feel their absolute defeat. They’ll accept that the fundamentalist struggle against the West has been lost. They’ll dig out from the ruins of their cities and recognize that they cannot allow the radicals to make martyrs of them all. Then, with our assistance, both military and financial, they’ll set out to purge themselves of the terrorist cancer.

Phrases in the above, such as that "the fundamentalist struggle against the West has been lost" and "they'll set out to purge themselves of the terrorist cancer" miss the point. It is central teachings of Islam, not something tangential, that is the problem. And one is unlikely to eliminate Islam. Nor is it "the terrorist cancer" alone -- demographic conquest of Europe from within is doing quite nicely, and indeed there may be no terrorist attacks, and yet Europe, with its resources, its infrastructure, its weaponry, its land, may be conquered just as, over 1350 years, other places have been conquered and their indigenous civilizations largely erased, both physically and in memory.

Constraint of Islam has to begin with recognizing it is Islam itself, not "Islamism" and not "Islamofascism" and not "Wahhabi" Islam, that is the problem. "Moderate" Muslims are a hollow category, because at any time, they, or their progeny, can become "immoderate" Muslims, and in helping to deny to Infidels the nature of Islam, they objectively weaken Infidel resolve and hence, contribute to the Jihad. Such denial may not always be sinister in origin. It can be based on filial piety, a refusal oneself to recognize just what the full effects of Islam are, or that, in attempting to find the cause of Muslim failures, that everything in the world should be blamed except, of course, Islam itself. But the belief-system prevents skepticism and free inquiry, forbids apostasy (which is perhaps a good way to distinguish a "cult" from a "religion"), sanctions despotism as long as the despot is a Muslim and adheres to the shari'a, and in every possible way limits the very potential of its own adherents. How many people, born into Islam, lived lifes of complete inanition because so many intellectual and artistic possibilites were simply forbidden?

The notion that a major war, with many casualties, will permanently solve something is wrong. There is no permanent solution, just a constant effort to keep Islam under control, and its adherents bottled up in their own countries (especially given their penchant for families of a dozen or more children) until they must deal with that problem themselves, rather than export their overpopulation problem, and at the same, make our Infidel lives much more unpleasant, expensive, and dangerous (the cost right now of monitoring Muslims in this country and elsewhere is about $37 billion annually, and that, of course, does not include what the governments of other Infidel countries are spending).

This is, admittedly, a nearly-fantastical and surreal situation. But it is real. This crazed ideology of dominance and subjugation really does exist, and always has. What happened in the last 30 years is that the OPEC oil money provided that ideology, which had never disappeared and was often not identified properly (the war against Israel is a classic Jihad, not a struggle of competing nationalisms -- Israel is in Infidel state, and whatever its size, simply cannot receive permanent acceptance, especially by Muslim Arabs who regard its existence as a permanent psychic wound. Only obviously overwhelming Israeli power can possibly maintain the peace and allow those Arab leaders who do not want to go to war the excuse of "darura" or necessity). There were Jihads in West Africa in 1804, in North Africa under Abdel Kader, in the Sudan under the Mahdi. A world-wide Jihad was declared in 1915; the genocide against Armenians by Turks and Kurds was a classic Jihad against the "giavour" or Infidel. The mass murder of Assyrian Christians in 1933, or the campagin to destroy the Maronite Christians, or the wars against the Sudanese Christians, are all JIhads. The wars within Muslim lands to suppress others -- Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan and Kashmir, Hindus and Christians in Bangladesh, Buddhists in Thailand, Christians in the Philippines and Indonesia, are all examples either of Jihad, or of the attempt to attack the internal population of supposed dhimmis who are, in the minds of some Muslims, simply not sufficiently suppressed.

There are those who believe that words like "Jihad" and "dhimmi" are quaint and in the past century or two simply fallen into desuetude. This is nonsense. If one looks only at the Muslim reaction to, and the rewriting of, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, one can see immediately that the concepts of Jihad and the dhimmi are alive and well. Of course they are not used for Western audiences. Why should they be, since it would only harm the cause?

But in the mosques, the words in the Qur'an and the hadith, the texts of sermons, and outside the mosques, the texts which imbue so much of Muslim life, where so little else is allowed to penetrate, have not changed, and will not change.

Anyone who poohpoohs the absolute continued importance of Jihad and dhimmitude is simply an ignoramus, a fool, or something more sinister.

Well said Hugh. I almost completely agree with the exception of internment in their own geography approach. The main reason for not using nuclear weapons is the fallout does damage to the whole planet or vastly more territory than necessary. If we can put JDAM in an airshaft from 15k feet, we can certainly hit a mosque on a Friday afternoon. After all, as al-Sadr and his ilk have proven, that's where they hide their peaceful selves and their peaceful RPG's and their peaceful mortar rounds.

Everyone

I got an email back from the Barnabas Fund, about having a National Apostacy Day every year, and they said that it's a very good idea and that they will treat it with serious consideration.

Comfortably ensconced in a nice, stable Western country like Britain. Enjoying all the benefits and the freedoms. To plot murder and destruction.

But of course they'll get a great support system behind them now. Free legal aid, endless appeals, and watered down sentences, if it comes to that. Halal food in jail, mullahs to come offer them "spiritual" guidance, copies of their war manual, ah, oops, Koran, to read to while away the hours in their cells. Lots of technicalities and legalities to twist and distort their culpability and the seriousness of the whole matter, and maybe nothing will happen to them afterall. And meanwhile, how many more like them are comfortably ensconced in nice, stable Britain, enjoying all the benefits and freedoms, plotting murder and destruction.

Sigh! Sometimes it's just too tiring and depressing thinking about it.

Nice to see the UK seems to be busy looking for these scumbags at least. Wonder if Canada's as busy? Afterall, it's been noted that it's a hotbed of terrorism now, particularly Montreal (poor Montreal, beautiful Montreal, infested and ruined), many having "fled" to soft-touch Canada. Or would that be a hate crime to actively seek out terrorists? Might lose a few votes too.

Only time these lovely Boys are 'British' is when they get caught!Then they scream for their 'rights';legal aid,lawyers, counsellors,all funded by British Taxpayers.Reckon now it high time to introduce another Law. All those detained
under Anti -Terrorism legislation will not be entitled to any of the above. Instead Muslim Council of Britain will have to pay all the costs of defendants. If it is proved terrorist doctrines
are being preached at any mosque, mosques would be closed down straight away, their financial assets frozen. You've got to hit these bastards where it hurts, in the pocket!At the moment they are laughing at us stupid Infidels...

Mr Rottweiller says “If a radioactive dirty bomb goes off in Manhattan, we drop a 25 megaton nuclear warhead on Mecca, and then destroy Khartoum for good measure.”

If a dirty bomb goes off anywhere…this will be hugely regrettable…but you cannot hold the whole of Islam responsible….it may become a watershed for Islamic reform …it may become the start of a world war ..and sadly it may become the end of human values. There is little doubt that the world over my people are treated as scum, the West is openly racist against them in every way…can you not see that this behaviour itself is radical and is providing the necessary fuel for misinterpretation of Islam.

Mr. Hugh adds to this by saying “The notion that a major war, with many casualties, will permanently solve something is wrong. There is no permanent solution.”

I agree with you completely, Islam is going no where, people here are simply too emotional ...there is going to be no glass over mecca, there simply isn’t a justification of punishing all of Islam because of the whims of a few…go after them just as the British Intelligence have. ….And if something does happen …well then the intel wasn’t good enough and needs to be improved.

Mr Hugh further writes “Israel is an Infidel state, and whatever its size, simply cannot receive permanent acceptance, especially by Muslim Arabs who regard its existence as a permanent psychic wound”.

Perhaps so by many, but we know that however humiliating the jews are part of Islam’s history, without them we would not be who (and where) we are!

The Israel-PAL situation must be solved …but cannot with either Sharon or Arafat in power. There is too much pride and history in the way…I think we may see some movement once both of them go.

Ms. Faralee says “copies of their war manual, ah, oops, Koran, to read to while away the hours in their cells.”

Ouch, that below the belt hurt but it shows the stereotyping that readers here have come to accept…a very sad fact.

Mr. Morgane says “Instead Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) will have to pay all the costs of defendants. If it is proved terrorist doctrines are being preached at any mosque, mosques would be closed down straight away, their financial assets frozen.”

I think you will find that the MCB will condemn and disown these people, taking funding away will be discriminatory and unfair to our youth.

p.s. What happened to Mr. Rikki on this thread, I thought he would get in there with "the boot" first.

Exhibit 1:

"Mr Hugh further writes "Israel is an Infidel state, and whatever its size, simply cannot receive permanent acceptance, especially by Muslim Arabs who regard its existence as a permanent psychic wound".

Perhaps so by many, but we know that however humiliating the jews are part of Islam’s history, without them we would not be who (and where) we are!" -Naseem

I keep asking myself, is this a bad dream? Muslim, Naseem, says his reason for being is hating Jews? And they call this a religion (of peace)? Wake me up when this nightmare is over. There is no moderate Muslim, it appears, just as there was no moderate Nazi.

And those that say all religions are the same ought to read Naseem's message. PS to Kristof at the NYT. Truth hurts!

Ms. daughter_of_patroit (Dope) says "Muslim, Naseem, says his reason for being is hating Jews? "

1st of all, Ms. Dope I am not a him I am a her (female).

2ndly Ms. Dope, where does it say in my write up that I my being here is due to hating Jews, I take great exception to that ...they are YOUR words NOT mine. You inferred your stereotyped opinion (as usual) from my words...please take note for the future.

What I did say was that Islam is in a humulating position by not being in as strong a position as the Jews (just like the position that the USA wanted with the USSR), nothing about pushing them into the sea (like you think).

Isreal has made no secret of the fact that it does not want peace, it continues to have a iron fist hold over the PALS ("a bit" like the Nazis had over them) and frankly they are on a power trip funneled and fuelled by the USA. In fact Israel is the face of the USA in the Middle East.

In truth Israel has such overwhelming firepower they don't need US help, Israel is here to stay just like the Pals and Islam.

How the US can really help here is to be fair to both sides...look at a roadmap that is fair. Mant talk about the (1998?) land for peace deal...and it was rejected...and rightly so because it like a swiss cheese with settlements all over the place...with so much histrorty between them this just would not have worked.

3rdly, Ms. Dope, I am here because I want to point out your stereo-typing where I can (in a civil manner) so that the readers can have a true (rather than a badly biased) perspective.

DC:

Over at LGF Reza called me "the notorious hate-monger and bigot CGW" for re-posting one of her comments, saying that I attacked her without her knowledge by posting her own words. Of course you can imagine the fun the LGFers had with her.

Anyway, instead of the term "islamophobe", how about "notorious hate-monger and bigot"? Coming from a muslim, I consider this a compliment.

Transient muslims:

We have read the qur'an and ahadith. Many here have spent years studying your satanic cult. We are not ignorant of islam - we despise it precisely because we know its tenets too well. Our "stereotyping" comes from RESEARCH and STUDY. Unlike the automaton adherents of islam, we do not believe or think something simply because we are told that we must, or else. We read and learn. We analyze and evaluate.

That is why islam is doomed; because you cannnot halt the spread of free thought and inquiry, and islam cannot and will never stand up to that type of scrutiny. Logic and reason ultimately prevail, and barbarism is replaced by enlightenment - although sometimes, unfortunately, by catastrophic means. Get ready.

How true CGW...one just needs to see how upset and horrified muslims become when a non muslim can quote from their unholy koran, give examples of the promotion of hate and terror and death to jews and christians that come DIRECTLY from those pages....one of the first things that muslims do is label you a "racist" for being educated about islam...first they wanted the west to "know islam" and now that more and more westerners are "knowing islam" the muslims are rethinking their "know islam" program...guess they didnt stop to think that the majority of westerners are literate educated people who question and think for themselves, not a group of illiterate people who can be "told" a sanatized version of islam by a smiling imam...we have read for ourselves the evil that governs muslims and have seen for ourselves what is in store if we do not fight it....and as for a "few" muslims in the world creating the terror, that is becomming harder to convince anyone of as each passing day sees more and more muslims exposed for their ties to terror(not just the ones that carry out the attacks, the ones that support and finance it as well)...in addition to the complete silence of muslims in the west when terror activities are carried out...well silence may be a little strong, muslims in michigan cheered 9-11 with their "palestinian" counterparts, even where I work, on 9-11 the 2 muslims that work there were caught celebrating the "americans getting what they deserved" (they were sent home by management due to threats by co-workers and eventually quit due to the fact that once everyone knew that they celebrated the deaths of 3000 innocent people that everyone including me wanted them hurt and hurt badly!) So no more "you cant blame islam" we can and we do blame islam...is it really just a coincidence that muslims are involved each time a bomb goes off somewhere in the world? No, it is islam...the koran...directing them to make islam a world religion, to kill the infidels...sorry but islam has been exposed, its too late to try and sugar coat it now.
One last point...isn't it interesting that MUSLIM WOMEN are leading the prostest aganint sharia being used in Canada...that says an awful lot about islamic law..if it is so perfect why then do MUSLIM women fear it and do not want it...or(to use an excuse that I am sure we will hear from muslim men) maybe these women are just not devout muslims.

The point that was being made in the Frontpage article is that peace is attained on the battlefield not at the negotiating table.That's clear from the numerous broken agreements by the Palestinians and the current situation with Sadr in Iraq.

Fanatical followers of the Buddist Bushido sect in Japan were raping and pillaging in Asia, attacking US forces and engaging in suicide attacks as they dreamed of becoming a superpower to rival the US.The dream ended only after 1.8 mil Japanese military casulaties, 500,000 civilian casualties,the annilation of the Japanese military and the destruction of most of the Japanese home islands.The Japanese stopped fighting because they knew that they were defeated.They are not going to wage world war again because of the terrible price they paid whether they are Bushido worshippers or not.

The point the author is making is that millions of muslims may have to die before they understand that they have been defeated and that terrorism isn't free.Some muslims are under the mistaken belief that terrorists can come to the west kill innocents and their is no price to pay.They are mistaken and will soon receive a wakeup call.The point is not to destroy Islam anymore then it was to destroy Bushido in WW2. The point is to make the cost of waging war against the west so painful and so terrible that Muslims like Bushido worshippers will never wage war with the west again.

DC Watson, hows about Terraphobia:
Fear of religious lunatics planning to wipe everything and everyone I know and love off the face of the earth, only to be replaced by the most primitive, restraining, miserable, sick and twisted, cult of darkness the world has ever seen.

Is that a little more appropriate?

Who the hell are these 'British Muslims'? Who the heck do they think they are? I recall reading an opinion here on JW that all these should be loaded off on board a ship and left to themselves somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic.

Posted by: Nikoz at August 17, 2004 01:55 PM

Nikoz,
Well I don't like to brag, but I suggested that (and that they should be left their to either starve, cannibalize each other or drownd).
In my eyes there is no such thing and never will be such thing as a "british muslim" , I will never recognise these snots, that would happily piss off to Iraq and die as matyrs fighting against British troops, as british.
They would never call themselves brits unless it suited them (e.g- if the wanted to get out of say...hmmmm....Guantanamo bay).
These less-than-nothings will only ever have one allegiance, and that is to their rock-god.

Anyone who poohpoohs the absolute continued importance of Jihad and dhimmitude is simply an ignoramus, a fool, or something more sinister.

Posted by: Hugh at August 17, 2004 08:51 PM

England needs to do what they do in Italy and Spain and hang ham in every food place that sales food!!!

Remind that when they stand in line for that wonderful ham that these people will take that from them they will not be able to contain themselves?

These mulsums will not let live let live! They will not let you eat,wear what you want? Put this every where make the squirrels come out of their holes! That makes for easy pick-ens

Most people are afraid of rats but will not live with them they will call in the rat killers!!!

Remember a gun in hand is worth 2 cops on the phone!!

Part of the American Tribe

God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS

Look at where the highest con. of these people are it is where the Democrats rule?

If a dirty bomb goes off anywhere…this will be hugely regrettable…but you cannot hold the whole of Islam responsible….it may become a watershed for Islamic reform …it may become the start of a world war ..and sadly it may become the end of human values. There is little doubt that the world over my people are treated as scum, the West is openly racist against them in every way…can you not see that this behaviour itself is radical and is providing the necessary fuel for misinterpretation of Islam.

Posted by: Naseem at August 18, 2004 05:10 AM

Yea it is the mulsum arabs killing other mulsums in the Sudan!!

Woman you are full of SH-T

Your whin-ing don't work here we are on to your kind!

And your killing of the children of God in Israel will curse you as it has Iran look at the EARTHQUAKES 30,000 dead mulsums?

Where were the mulsums when saddam killed 300,000 mulsums? Oh! Yea! you sided with saddam?Don't go after him he is so brave? OH!MY! FOUND IN A RAT HOLE!!!

Was the Mulsum world happy that he was caught? No! they were sad because they thought he was their hope to take the west ? Well he ran like the coward that he is!!!

We See YOU and we do not like what we see! You want our death and it will only bring your own death!!

We are still waiting for some mulsums to come out against these mulsum monsters?

You think it is okay to cut off peoples heads? This is why people hate you because you are monsters!!

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory[FREEDOM] Amen

PS
You are not just messing with France anymore!

What I did say was that Islam is in a humulating position by not being in as strong a position as the Jews (just like the position that the USA wanted with the USSR), nothing about pushing them into the sea (like you think).

Posted by: Naseem at August 18, 2004 07:27 AM

How sad for you you have converted to the way of hell Little old Israel has bested the whole mulsum world!!

No wonder you are full of hate God gave his written word to the Jewish people and nothing to Ismal?

Sad for you that your men keep turning up YELLOW nad in RAT HOLES?

Yes you do all that these YELLOW MEN tell you to do and still you can not win!!

And as far as the USA over Russia we won that war and are now Friends and will Fight together just as in WW2!!

The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend!!

Israel has and is willing to live in Peace with you mulsums and you don't want this you use the Pal. as a dis-track-tion from your plan but we see through you!!

Woman you are the stupid one the slave to mulsum men ? If you love them you will go back to Saudi A. and live like you should riding on the back of a donkey cart!!!

Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

PS
How sad for you you have no Heros!
only YELLOW MEN WHO HIDE IN RAT HOLES AND CAVES??

God Bless the Countrys who Have Heros!!!

Pitty the countrys who need them?

Nazeem claimed: Isreal has made no secret of the fact that it does not want peace, it continues to have a iron fist hold over the PALS ("a bit" like the Nazis had over them) and frankly they are on a power trip funneled and fuelled by the USA. In fact Israel is the face of the USA in the Middle East.

More lies and false propoganda from a brainwashed muslim who thinks Neil Armstrong heard the islamic calls to prayer while on the moon and converted to islam.

FYI... It was the ARABS who REPEATEDLY declared war on the Jews and Israel with the stated goal of driving the Jews into the sea.

Jews have offered to make peace with the palestinians but not under the terms they offer which would result in the extermination of the Jews.

Every other nation has learned, too late, that muslims seek to dominate and destroy other cultures. This is not some Zionist propaganda, this is the declared goal in the koran and was done by your so called prophet.

Israelis lived with arabs for many years, and they know how deceitful and cunning they are. Thats why they dont agree to their terms of peace which would ultimately result in their annihilation.

As you have proven to us before, you muslims lie, and even when caught in your lies, you continue to lie. To lie to an infidel is to be a good muslim. Lies and blood lust are the two most important characteristics for muslims to posses. Without these they could not further their goal of converting the masses to islam. No person knowing the truth about islam would willingly convert to be a member of this evil cult.

When you muslims convert people to islam do you inform them that if they later change their mind and want to revert back to being a Christian they will be killed and have thus effectively signed their own death warrant by becoming a muslim?

I bet not........

When 9/11/01 happened I was a member of the wwwac listserv, and the conversation born that day, following those eye-opening attacks evolved into the wwwac politics listserv. I began an intensive study into Islam and wanted to know why those 19 men flew planes into our buildings.

I shared what I discovered to those on the list. The response? From the left, put downs, name calling. From the muslim woman on the list? Same, but more, I began to get late night phone calls, at home and on my cell. (Naively, had my contact info. in my signature tag), but hey this is a free country and we can agree to disagree, or so I thought.

Later I learned that this too is part of Jihad. Intimidate critics. Naseem, name calling (Ms. Dope?) tells me you have no argument. I will not return your insult, I will seek & share truth with all. Don't tread on me.

Later I learned that this too is part of Jihad. Intimidate critics. Naseem, name calling (Ms. Dope?) tells me you have no argument. I will not return your insult, I will seek & share truth with all. Don't tread on me.

Posted by: daughter of patriots at August 18, 2004 08:54 PM

They can't win if the bullying does not work look they always pick on the weak? and they do not do their home work? it is always easy to sucker punch someone?

I am proud of you keep it up and stay locked loaded and steady!!

I never go any where with out Mr.Ruger

Part of the American Tribe

God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen

Christian Catherine & Ms. Dope...I see your ranting, going around with a gun (is it loaded) so that you are not dickless, you are paranoid...get a grip.

Your fellow citizens in HamTrackt (sp?) have the right idea. They get to hear the call for prayer loud & clear 5 times a day, it is still not too late...convert and be saved.

Ms. Faralee says “copies of their war manual, ah, oops, Koran, to read to while away the hours in their cells.”

Ouch, that below the belt hurt but it shows the stereotyping that readers here have come to accept…a very sad fact.
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No, what's sad is how utterly braindead & dumb most Muslims are for not realizing and understanding what is in their despicable war manual. What is sad that Muslims go around obliviously thinking their "prophet" was wonderful and saintly, and somebody to follow and emulate, when he was nothing but a vile psychopathic, thieving, murderer & a sexual deviant. He dreamt up this "religion" to steal land and riches from others. This is what you are following. How sad.

Hence the embarrassingly pathetic and disgusting state of Islamic nations - full of hatred, intolerance, misery, poverty, backwardness and death. They can only be kept from completely falling apart by being run by psycopathic dictators, like your "prophet" was. People who torture, slaughter, and steal, and live like kings in palaces while stomping on the necks of his people. How sad you can't see this. But then you've been trained to not use your brain, so you can't help it. Just mindlessly accept everything, wipe your ass how your "prophet" instructed, subjugate yourself, don't think, don't question. Jesus, why do you bother living at all? What's the point? What do you get in paradise, Naseem? Do you get to watch your husband bonk virgins all day and night? How sad. How sick.

We know what's in your war manual. Thanks to the Internet, that info is readily available. And thanks to our non-Muslim upbringing, where we're allowed to actually use our brains and think for ourselves, we don't accept the airbrushed version that you're obviously forcefed. We're not mindless drones.

Low blow? No, just the plain unadulterated truth. The facts.

Oh, and btw: GO ISRAEL!!! If the Jews left Israel, "Palestine" would just turn into another pathetic Islamic toilet anyway. Can't be anything else, since that's what Islam creates - garbage.

Naseem you slave-whore,
Catherine and DOP are worth a billion of a servile tramp like you.

Ms. Farlee says "Jesus, why do you bother living at all? What's the point? What do you get in paradise, Naseem? Do you get to watch your husband bonk virgins all day and night? How sad. How sick."

Yes, you are right...how bloody sick you are. Luckily it's not up to who lives and who dies. Trying to take higher the moral ground...and that's all you tried to do...but your sick rantings show that you are NO better than us ... your judgement has been completely clouded by your emotion...makes you feel sexy that does it...grow up and get a life...take the shahada.

Mr. Rikki says "Naseem you slave-whore,
Catherine and DOP are worth a billion of a servile tramp like you."

You are only emotional because that's your only weapon at hand. We on the other hand have Allah (SWT) to turn to in extreme provocation....you too can be saved ...freed from your emotional trip to nowhere...try it...take the Shahada, you will be free.

Allahu Akbar!!!!

Naseem-

Do you really think Catherine would ever take the Shahada?? I can sooner imagine Muhammed returning to Earth and advocating bacon and the joys of celibacy.

YO, PEOPLE! Re: This whole "phobia" deal.

a "phobia" is an IRRATIONAL FEAR, a fear NOT BASED IN REALITY.

Now raise your hand if you think that "Islamophobia" is irrational.

Anybody? What, no hands?