They think Egypt is going to be attacked by America. But more than that, they want to topple Mubarak and establish a Sharia state under a caliph. From Khilafah.com, a website of the radical organization Hizb-ut-Tahrir.
Oh Muslim youth.Oh Muslims from the land of the Arabs.
Oh descendents of the Mujahideen and Scholars
Oh youth from the banks of the Nile.
What is happening cannot have failed to attract your attention. You have seen the changes, month-by-month and year-by-year as the Muslims are under almost continuous attack.
The Americans seek to crush anyone who wishes to raise the banner of Islam once again. They will never leave the Islamic world until they control all of the people, every resource and destroy any threat to their dominance.
We all know this. We know that Iraq has now been captured and they intend to continue to the rest of the Islamic world. If they send troops to Sudan after the pressure that they are putting on that government then they will be on the doorstep of Egypt. When will it be Egypt’s turn? ...
Indeed, this Ummah is one Ummah. By attacking Afghanistan and Iraq, the enemy has already started their material attack against the Muslims. How can the Muslims of Egypt consider themselves to be separated from this?
Why is it that you can criticise anyone in Egypt except Mubarak and his family? Why is it that the youth are encouraged to listen to music, smoke hashish, and free mix with the opposite sex instead of building the land towards strength and prosperity? Why is it that the economy is in ruins and nobody really cares? Why is it that every young person wants to leave Egypt to work, even though they love their home? How can Egypt be the mother of the world when it cannot even feed itself? Why is it that everyone knows that something is going to happen and yet nobody wants to make something happen?
More and more people from every generation are going to lessons in the Masajid [mosques] and improving their personalities and increasing their knowledge. Islam is in every single household and yet Mubarak is comfortable and secure. Did he forget that Allah (Subhana wa Ta’ala) said;
وَأَنِ احْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ اللّهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَاءهُمْ وَاحْذَرْهُمْ أَن يَفْتِنُوكَ عَن بَعْضِ مَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ إِلَيْكَ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْاْ فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللّهُ أَن يُصِيبَهُم بِبَعْضِ ذُنُوبِهِمْ وَإِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ النَّاسِ لَفَاسِقُونَ
And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile you from any of that which Allah has sent down to you. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious. Surat al Maidah 49
What has happened to you? Where is the dignity you once had? The Muslims in Egypt have always been believers who did not stand for shirk and oppression. When the Mongols invaded Bagdhad and Damascus and the whole world was afraid of them, it was the Muslims from Egypt and Palestine who fought them and defeated them and returned Islam to the world. They fought with Salah El Din to liberate Al Quds from the barbarian Crusaders. What more powerful fortress could exist than Salah El Din’s Citadel (Al Kalla) overlooking Cairo. The Muslims from Egypt won al- Hijaz back from the Saud-Wahabi alliance when they sought to divide the Khilafah and so restored the unity of the Khilafah and of the Muslims.
Now it is time to take the leadership role. Now it is time for the Muslims of Egypt to lead the world back to Islam by re-establishing the Khilafah and seeking to unite the Muslims under one banner. Everyone knows that the Muslims should be united. Everyone knows that the shari’ah must be implemented. Everyone knows that Jihad should be fought, that Palestine and Iraq should be liberated. Everyone knows that the kuffar seek to dominate the resources. Everyone knows that the Arab and non-Arab rulers in the Islamic world care about their own positions more than any other matter. Everyone knows that things cannot continue as they are.
Now is the time for bravery and steadfastness upon the deen of Allah (Subhana wa Ta’ala). If you act now you will become the leaders of the world and those remembered by Allah (Subhana wa Ta’ala) in the best of company as you risked yourselves and your wealth to establish Islam in the land.
Fifth column. Quislings. Intern. Deport.
Lots of Bragging but no mention of when they tried to take Israel and Failed even with the help of other mulsum nations?
Well this shows that they are working with Iran the Iranis are pumping their chests showing off their new missle today?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her Give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
Chilibi is back in Iraq? Sayes he has more people who support him ? Does this mean that he is bring the 10,000 from Iran watch the borders don't let them in for holiday untill things are well and all terrorist are killed!!!
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
What has happened to you? Where is the dignity you once had?.................
What happened to them was - they became muslim!!!! The ancient Egyptians created a tremendous society, astounding feats of engineering & science, beautiful works of art. Then they had their brains & their souls ripped out by islam & have never made another contribution to the world.
Why is it that the economy is in ruins and nobody really cares? Why is it that every young person wants to leave Egypt to work, even though they love their home? How can Egypt be the mother of the world when it cannot even feed itself?
Answer: Islam.
They are right about one thing: the Americans want to crush anyone who wants to raise the banner of Islam (codespeak for Jihad) again. Let me at them!!
"The Americans seek to crush anyone who wishes to raise the banner of Islam once again".
Ans:-- America chose to crush the banner of the despot and tyrant Saddam Hussein so that muslims, be it Suni or Shia could practice their religion peacefully.
"We all know this. We know that Iraq has now been captured and they intend to continue to the rest of the Islamic world. If they send troops to Sudan after the pressure that they are putting on that government then they will be on the doorstep of Egypt. When will it be Egypt’s turn? ".
Ans:-- America does not want to be the policeman of the world but no one will stop the genocide being perpetrated in the Sudan and the Darfur region by muslims. If Egypt will stop this evil genocide than America will gladly stay out."
"Everyone knows that Jihad should be fought, that Palestine and Iraq should be liberated. Everyone knows that the kuffar seek to dominate the resources.
Ans:-- Well you are right here,to use your term --everyone knows that Palestine should be liberated from the clutches of demogogues like Yassar Arafat. Everyone knows that Iraq is better of having been liberated from the evil clutches of the tyrannical despot Saddam Hussein.
"Everyone knows that the Arab and non-Arab rulers in the Islamic world care about their own positions more than any other matter. Everyone knows that things cannot continue as they are."
Ans:-- Gee Right again, This is exactly why the Islamic Arab world has so many problems .
All your countries, with the exception of Turkey are run by despots and dictators of the worst order and this is why you cannot keep up with the countries that have embraced a form of democracy and they are prospering because of it.
Wake up and smell the roses for it is your allowing this to happen that has led to the deteriation of your Arab countries. And it is not the United States fault that this has happened.
As long as you make yourself vulnerable to corrupt leaders and not make an effort to embrace a democratic secular form of government,than you shall flounder and stay weak in your third world countries while the
rest of the world passes you by.
More than 60 percent of the worlds 190 plus countries now have some form of democratic government and they are prospering greatly because of it. Thus they export commerce through out the world instead of exporting hate and terrorism.
Time to wake up my friend for no one wants to take your religion from you or your country from you as long as you live in peace.
MAY ALLAH OR GOD BLESS THE PEACE MAKERS OF THE WORLD !! 1
Well put, Mackie. Bravo.
The West has not yet learned that history matters to these guys. What happened 1000 years ago is as fresh to them as what happened yesterday. They never stopped fighting the Crusaders and they don't see one iota of difference in the identity of the modern Western civiliation with that of medieval Christendom. So if that's the game they want to play, we can play too. If they want to live in the 7th century where all the world is "perfect", then all they have to do is press a few more buttons. There is a limit however to the modern crusader patience. Cross the line and he might just remind the jihadists what the Face of Shiva looks like, as he did to the hapless denizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If every islamic country on the face of the planet has to be erased to ensure a peaceful future, then that's what will happen.
I'm just curious as to why Prof. Spencer puts up posts from radical Islamist sites and attempts to pass them off as indicative of Islam and all Muslims. After all, I don't think it would be fair to link to the following:
http://www.resist.com
and say that it is indicative of white Americans as a whole.
There are enough damning quotes, articles, manifesto's etc. in the mainstream press that can fulfill the stated goals of Jihad Watch. Linking to Islamists' lunatic ravings does little to advance the debate.
The Truth:
Robert Spencer has made it abundantly clear numerouse times on his website,in his articles,speeches, and media discussions that he does not lump in all muslims as part of radical Islam.
He does put the focus on radical and fundamental Islam that is supportive of terrorist activities in an effort to Identify what is wrong with Islam that needs to be addressed.
Though as disgusting as the Aryan Nation is, it is not the venue of this website. Hopfully other websites are confronting that particular menace in America.
"Robert Spencer has made it abundantly clear numerouse times on his website,in his articles,speeches, and media discussions that he does not lump in all muslims as part of radical Islam."
Fair enough. I'll take your word for that.
'Aryans' are not a race, either. Another total fabrication, like the Protocols of the Elder of Zion.
I don't see why they are so upset about us being anywhere near Egypt. These are the same mentality as those who destroyed the ancient statues in Afghanistan- except they want to destroy the Pyramids!
Oh this and oh that and oh the other thing.
Oh go blow it out the nether hole, you poison dwarf.
You remind me of my grandfather...FRAP!!
Hard to tell which end is there nether hole, Cato. It smells the same coming out either end...
That's beautiful Cato the Elder - I don't think I could've put it more concisely myself, unless I resort to acronyms:
STFU!!!!
The Truth said:
He does put the focus on radical and fundamental Islam that is supportive of terrorist activities in an effort to Identify what is wrong with Islam that needs to be addressed.
You must be naive friend, or you must think we are naive. Violence is part of MAINSTREAM islamic societies. Its the minority who is of a secular non-violent mindset. Just read this to see what happens in islamic countries. These are not the actions of a few, but of the majority who either support it, or willing accept it.
Some quotes for you from this site which is not an extremist site.
http://www.secularislam.org/humanrights/silent.htm
Essentially, Islam is a set of beliefs and rules that militate against human prosperity, happiness, welfare, freedom, equality and knowledge. Islam and a full human life are contradictory concepts, opposed to each other. Islam under any kind of interpretation is and always has been a strong force against secularism, modernism, egalitarianism and women's rights. Political Islam, however, is a political movement that has come to the fore against secular and progressive movements for liberation, and against cultural and intellectual advances. Violence and disregard for human dignity are inherent in the manifestos of political Islamic groups.
“The very statement that an Islamic republic exists somewhere means that brutal violence exists within it.”
I'd feed them to my large Germannic dogs if they didn't consider Jihadists unclean animals. I bet they taste like they fight - like chickens!
I believe there was a post on this blog recently where it stated 51% of all Muslims support Osama bin Laden (i.e. violent jihad).
That hardly constitutes a small minority.
Mr "Truth", here is some more for you to read from that site. Don't come here and insult the intelligence of us Infidels with your claims that violence under islam is an aberration.
I, along with thousands of political prisoners, was tortured by order of the representative of Allah and Sharia; tortured, while the verses of the Koran about nonbelievers were played in the torture chambers. The voice reading the Koran was mixed with our cries of pain from lashes and other brutal forms of torture. They raped women political prisoners for the sake of Allah and in expectation of his reward. They prayed before raping them. Thousands were shot to death by execution squads while Koranic verses were recited. Prisoners were awakened every day at dawn to the sound of gunshots aimed at their friends and cellmates. From the numbers of shots you could work out how many had been murdered that day. The killing machine did not stop for a minute. The fathers and mothers, husbands and wives who received the bloody clothes of their loved ones had to pay for the bullets. They created an Islamic Auschwitz. Many of the best, the most passionate and progressive people were massacred. The dimensions of the horror are beyond imagining.
I am not one to defend Islam (or any other religion, for that matter). I do know that there are Islamists who wish to murder innocents. I do know that the vast vast majority of Muslims, like the vast vast majority of all people, are simple, God-fearing folks trying to eke out an existence.
Do they have sympathy for the Islamists. Probably. But, last I heard, sympathy is not a crime, for if it were, the majority of Americans who supported the murderous IRA would also be guilty.
Incidentally, I take it people on this thread are not tolerant of views contrary to the "All Muslims are scoundrels/kill them all" school. To you I say this:
You know, I've spent time in the Khyber Pass region while in school (God's own country, by the way). I made friends there who I still remain in contact with. For all those gung-ho to eliminate the Jihadis, we can organize a party to hunt down UBL ourselves. I provide the contacts and logistical support, you provide funds and guns. Let me know, people, put your money and life where your loud, internet anonymous mouths are.
Truth said:
I do know that the vast vast majority of Muslims, like the vast vast majority of all people, are simple, God-fearing folks trying to eke out an existence.
Amazing, you know billions of people and have spoken to each and every one of them to know their thoughts. I commend you on this accomplishment :)
But, last I heard, sympathy is not a crime, for if it were, the majority of Americans who supported the murderous IRA would also be guilty.
Again another claim invented by you. This time you know what the majority of Americans think about the IRA. The majority of Americans do not support the IRA or any terrorists
For all those gung-ho to eliminate the Jihadis, we can organize a party to hunt down UBL ourselves. I provide the contacts and logistical support, you provide funds and guns. Let me know, people, put your money and life where your loud, internet anonymous mouths are.
Let me get this straight.... You want us to pay your groups to hunt jihadis when the majority of muslims supposedly are against them and you personally feel they give you a bad name. Why dont you hunt them down??
FYI... we already ARE hunting down jihadis, just read the many articles on this site. Every day more and more get arrested. Why dont YOU and your friends get together and take them down in your own countries like we do in ours?
Don't answer, you already did.. "Do they have sympathy for the Islamists. Probably."
Its not a crime to symphathize with terrorists, but it sure does expose the mindset of those who do...
Truth offered "For all those gung-ho to eliminate the Jihadis, we can organize a party to hunt down UBL ourselves. I provide the contacts and logistical support, you provide funds and guns. Let me know, people, put your money and life where your loud, internet anonymous mouths are."
Whatever pittance we could come up with could hardly match the bounty on UBL's head, which must be around 50 million bucks. If that sum isn't incentive enough for you to track him down and take him out if it's so easy given your familiarity with the Khyber Pass, nothing we do or say could motivate you to make good on your claim.
Should Jihadis ever come to control Egypt, they'd be well advised to consider that they'd be in possession of one of the most tempting nuclear targets on Earth: the Aswan High Dam.
A brace of the old-fashioned A-bombs, with maximal radio-active residue, would breach the Dam and send the waters of the immense Lake Nasser cascading the full length of the Nile Valley, through the Delta to the Mediterranean, in the "Mother of all Nile-floods", seeding the banks of the River with deadly, isotopic particles, kissing goodbye to millennia of agriculture there - habitation there - for at least the next 22,000 years.
However, to Jihadis, such things are of NO consequence whatever - they'll have deemed that they've done splendidly indeed, if they've produced a circumstance yielding multi-millions of fatalities, "Moslem martyrs" to populate their "Paradise"!
Therefore, if, finally, Islamo-fascists are NOT DETERRABLE, even by nukes, that doesn't mean for a second that nukes are useless against them.
It DOES mean that, in the course of this misnamed "War on Terror", they ought to be applied initially as a DEMONSTRATION (in Najaf, in Faluja), to endeavour to deter the rabid Arabs and Moslems.
But if this doesn't work, then they should be utilized to enforce the vital, humane message: "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - SURRENDER UNCONDITIONALLY", wherever the Jihadis surface.
"The Americans seek to crush anyone who wishes to raise the banner of Islam once again. They will never leave the Islamic world until they control all of the people, every resource and destroy any threat to their dominance.
We all know this. We know that Iraq has now been captured and they intend to continue to the rest of the Islamic world."
Sounds like a simple case of projection to me. The Muslims seek to dominate the rest of the world through Islam and Sharia law, so obviously that must be our goal as well. Yeah, right. It is amazing what a bunch of tripe these people will believe.
You know, I've spent time in the Khyber Pass region while in school (God's own country, by the way). I made friends there who I still remain in contact with. For all those gung-ho to eliminate the Jihadis, we can organize a party to hunt down UBL ourselves. I provide the contacts and logistical support, you provide funds and guns. Let me know, people, put your money and life where your loud, internet anonymous mouths are.
Posted by: The Truth at August 11, 2004 04:59 PM
Truth,
My old son, now your talking on my wave lenght but I doubt you have a 100th of the will to take on the jihadis as me and my circle of friends have ,and like you we're short on funding.I've got my own little master-plan cooking(just to let your anoymous ears and swelling anonymous head know I'm not all talk and no action)but I'd also like to get a little something like your proposition cooking.So if you've got even half the balls you profess to have email me at:
Borgdestroyer@yahoo.com
...and lets talk business and we'll see "geared up" you really are!!!
Route to OBL, interogate Al Jazeera staff.Simple.
The Egyptians have taken a serious nose-dive in history, weren't they once responsible for one of histories most advnced civilizations and some of it's greatest acheivements.... and then the arabs invaded, the fatal sting of islam strikes again.
The evidence is here though , that most of the population are bored to tears with life as a devout muslim following the sharia word for word. Many are leaving to work abroad, many are shagging around , and getting high,and at the same time angering (okay I'll try not to laugh) most merciful and generous allah(...its no...pwa-ha-ha ha..good...lol... I can't do it- ha ha ha)... Allah: the fictional demon who doesn't want his servile followers to have any kind of an enjoyable, or interesting life,or make any kind of technological or scietific breakthroughs to contribute to mankinds acheivements.
Great religion folks.