Feisal Abdul Rauf, Eric Ormsby, and the realities of Islam

Feisal Abdul Rauf has been getting a lot of good publicity for his new book What's Right with Islam, but predictably, it leaves out a good deal of what is wrong that would clarify and contextualize what is right. Scholar Eric Ormsby took a crack at it at the Wall Street Journal, but as Andrew Bostom shows in FrontPage, he doesn't get it either.

Ormsby’s review displays the two overlapping tiers of apologetics which pervade contemporary print media presentations of Islam, distorting or fully concealing basic historical realities. The treacly apologism of Feisal Abdul Rauf and his ilk persuades only those who are devoid of any understanding of Islamic theology and history; however, the faint-hearted “critique” of Abdul Rauf provided by Professor Ormsby, is more damaging, because in the end, it serves only to further obfuscate the truth. I will support this contention by elaborating on four specific points Ormsby addresses in his review.

First, Professor Ormsby maintains, in relation to suicide bombing:

Mr. Abdul Rauf notes, rightly, that both suicide and the taking of innocent lives are expressly and unequivocally forbidden in Islamic teaching.

This statement conflates and distorts Islamic theology, and Muslim history, past and present. Professor Franz Rosenthal, the great American scholar of Islam, who, 50 years ago, translated Ibn Khaldoun's classic Introduction To History, also wrote a seminal essay entitled “On Suicide in Islam” in1946, in which he observed:

While the Qur’anic attitude toward suicide remains uncertain, the great authorities of the hadith leave no doubt as to the official attitude of Islam. In their opinion suicide is an unlawful act....On the other hand, death as the result of “suicidal” missions and of the desire of martyrdom occurs not infrequently, since death is considered highly commendable according to Muslim religious concepts. However, such cases are no[t] suicides in the proper sense of the term.1 (Emphasis added.)

That is why even clerics such as the popular Al-Jazeera personality Yusuf Al Qaradawi openly sanction murderous Palestinian homicide bomber “martyrdom” operations against innocent Israeli citizens (all of whom are considered “combatants” who obstruct the “call to Islam”) during fatwa councils convened in the heart of Europe.2 The sad reality, which both Abdul Rauf and Professor Ormsby choose to deny or ignore, is that such hideous pronouncements are in fact on firm theological footing.

| 6 Comments
Print | Email this entry | Digg this | del.icio.us |

6 Comments

>>That is why even clerics such as the popular Al-Jazeera personality Yusuf Al Qaradawi openly sanction murderous Palestinian homicide bomber “martyrdom” operations against innocent Israeli citizens (all of whom are considered “combatants” who obstruct the “call to Islam”) during fatwa councils convened in the heart of Europe.2 The sad reality, which both Abdul Rauf and Professor Ormsby choose to deny or ignore, is that such hideous pronouncements are in fact on firm theological footing.
==========================================
00000000ooooooooooooo0000000

I have difficulty with the motivation of this so called moderate cleric, is it reasonable to assume from his pronouncements that he is actually endorsing the killing of muslims, including child stone throwers in Palestine, by making the statement validating the death of innocent civilian Jews, because Israel is a 'Military State'; it seems so to me, because these children are living in a 'Military sub State' and are being mentally abused to believe there is only one way that they can have any worth!

These Clerics are quick to endorse anything which might ennoble Islam even if it has to rewrite its basic teaching.

Jesus distinctly stated that he would not tolerate anyone who deliberately caused a child to 'stumble'


Matthew 18:6
But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 18 In context: Matthew 18:5-7)


Mark 9:42
"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 9 In context: Mark 9:41-43)


Luke 17:2
It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 17 In context: Luke 17:1-3)

This is also very worrying in the fact that it is parental child sacrifice, which was only done in ancient history by Kings who had promised to give 'My only Son' on the completion of a succesful military campaign to a cultic deity, as a sacrifice.

The God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob never asked for child sacrifice; Jesus' offering of his life was a completely different concept of offering, and no-one else was killed. His offering was justified in God's eyes, suicide and murder are reprehensible in God's eyes as it is his property being destroyed; whether the victim is Palestinian or Jewish or not.

God owns everything, man and beast earth, seas, and stars,

Muslims are religiously obligated to lie. What else is new? If you don't know the terms taqiyyah and kitman, you had better learn:

http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp

Also, here are some examples of Shariah law and a link to complete legal clauses and references:

1. Offensive, military jihad against non-Muslims is a communal, religious obligation;
2. A person who is ignorant about Islamic legal opinion must follow the legal opinion of a scholar;
3. The penalty for a Muslim apostate (someone who no longer believes in or no longer follows the tenets of Islam) is death;
4. When slaughtering animals for food, a knife must be used to cut the windpipe and gullet;
5. A woman is only eligible to receive half the inheritance of a man;
6. Marriage may be forced on virgins by their father or father’s father;
7. A non-Arab man may not marry an Arab woman;
8. A woman must seek permission from her husband to leave the house;
9. A Muslim man cannot marry a woman who is a Zoroastrian, an idol worshipper, an apostate from Islam or a woman with one parent who is Jewish or Christian, with the other being Zoroastrian; a Muslim woman cannot marry anyone but a Muslim;
10. A free Muslim man may marry up to four women;
11. Retaliation is obligatory in most cases when someone is deliberately murdered except when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim, a Jew or a Christian kills a Muslim apostate or a father or mother kill their offspring;
12. Non-Muslim subjects (Ahl al-Dhimma) of a Muslim state are subject to a series of discriminatory laws – “dhimmitude”;
13. The penalty for fornication or sodomy is being stoned to death;
14. The penalty for an initial theft is amputation of the right hand. Subsequent thefts are penalized by further amputations of feet and hand;
15. A non-Muslim cannot testify against a Muslim in court; a person who is “without respectability” cannot give legal testimony; a woman’s legal testimony is only given half the legal weight of a man’s (and is only acceptable in cases involving property); to legally prove fornication or sodomy requires 4 male witnesses who actually saw the act;
16. The establishment and continuation of the Islamic Caliphate (by force, if necessary) is a communal obligation;
17. Sodomites and Lesbians must be killed;
18. Laughing too much is forbidden;
19. Musical instruments are unlawful;
20. Creating pictures of animate life is forbidden;
21. Female circumcision, which includes the excision of the clitoris, is obligatory;
22. Slavery is permitted;
23. People may be bribed to convert to Islam;
24. Beating a rebellious wife is permissible; and,
25. Lying is permissible in a time of war (or jihad).

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display_any/21475

Sina writes: "Islam is not a religion. Considering Islam a religion is a foolish mistake that could cost millions of lives. Islam is a political movement set to conquer the world. It is the Borg of the non-fictional world. Islam has one goal and one goal alone: to assimilate or to destroy."
IS EUROPE ACTUALLY COMMITING SUICIDE?

Spengler writes
Demographics is destiny. Never in recorded history have prosperous and peaceful nations chosen to disappear from the face of the earth. Yet that is what the Europeans have chosen to do.
In 200 years, French and German will be spoken exclusively in hell. What has brought about this collective suicide, which mocks all we thought we knew about the instinct for self-preservation? The chattering classes have nothing to say about the most unique and significant change in our times. Yet the great political and economic shifts of modern times are demographic in origin

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/ED08Aa01.html

Well I won't be buying Rauf's Rant.Typical Muslim
'It's their fault:Islam is such a wonderful religion of peace and tolerance!' Who is he trying to kid? Reckon we should stop this guilt trip and neither apologise or explain for what happened in the 15th Century or any other time[As far as I know none of us were around then - period!]Truth is Rauf and all the other Muzzies are jealous as hell of the West's success. They cannot bear we are richer, have more choices and enjoy life more than they do. That is why they feel they must destroy us, ruin our economies,
stop people having sex, having fun, even laughing..We must be brought down to their level and made as miserable as they are. Envy is the true serpent gnawing at the black rock of Islam - what it cannot have, it will destroy.

The aztecs were a peaceful people.....that is until you were chosen to offer your child up for sacrificing.

What ever positives are found in this pestilence called Islam.....are more than negated in its reality.

Its these so called positives that seem to hypnotize gullible people..........this cult is vampiric in nature.