These kinds of stories -- he is a sweet, gentle guy, he would never have anything to do with terrorism -- would be far more convincing if they weren't issued every time a Muslim is arrested on terror-related charges in America. From AP, with thanks to Teri, who points out the curious statement at the end of the story: "'I tell you something about our society: Whoever promotes violence, we don't invite him,' said Khalid Lamada, who runs the society's outreach programs. 'We deal with the community at large, so we can't afford that.'" We can't afford that? Hardly a ringing condemnation of violence.
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. -- To federal authorities, Mazen Mokhtar is a technologically savvy Internet whiz who operated a Web site soliciting funds and recruiting fighters for the Taliban and other Muslim warrior groups.They searched his North Brunswick home, hauling away several bags of items, but have not charged him with a crime.
Mokhtar is listed in Internet directories as the registrant and administrative and technical contact for the Web site www.minna.com, which authorities said is an exact duplicate of one run by Babar Ahmad, who was arrested last week in London and charged with aiding terrorists.
But Mokhtar's friends and acquaintances paint a far different picture of a devout, peaceful Muslim who taught classes on Islam and sometimes led Friday prayer services.
Isn't it possible that he, like so many jihadists around the world, could have been devout and not peaceful? Every day we see statements from jihadists praising Allah for murder and mayhem. But this doesn't seem to occur to the AP writer.
"It doesn't seem like he was involved with anything like that," said Asim Uzmani, a board member of the New Brunswick Islamic Center, where Mokhtar volunteered to lead prayers at the small storefront mosque about twice a month.Uzmani said he spoke to Mokhtar a few days ago.
"He said he used to run a hosting service four or five years ago that used to resell Web hosting services to people. He said he didn't know those guys (mentioned in court papers) and he is not involved in anything like that."...
The affidavit said Ahmad operated a Web site, www.azzam.com, through a Connecticut-based Internet service provider, OLM. Neither Web site could be accessed Tuesday without a password.
The document claims Ahmad ran a group of fund-raising and recruitment Web sites under the name Azzam Publications. Regarding the operator of the www.minna.com site, the affidavit stated, "a search of this person's residence in New Jersey resulted in contact numbers for Azzam Publications in hardcopy and electronic form."
"Therefore," the affidavit continued, "it is evident that Ahmad worked in concert with this individual to maintain the continued operation of the Azzam sites, through the use of mirror sites, when the administrators of Azzam sites shut the Azzam.com site down after 9/11."
The affidavit said the Azzam sites published, among other information, Osama Bin Laden's "Declaration of War Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places," calling for the violent ouster of U.S. military forces from the Middle East. The sites also provided instructions on raising and delivering money to the Taliban, including advice to use hawala system of transferring money without records.
Those who know Mokhtar said the allegations don't fit.
Abdul Basit, a prayer leader at the New Brunswick Islamic Center, said Mokhtar "is well-regarded."
"He never spoke anything bad in front of us," Basit said. "In the community, he is a good person. We never heard anything bad" from him or about him, Basit added.
Sharif Muhammad, a custodian at the center, has known Mokhtar for three years, and called his sermons moderate and peaceful.
"I never witnessed any radical or irrational behavior from him," Muhammad said. "I can honestly say I've never heard anything radical come from his lips involving terrorism - never."
Mokhtar also spoke occasionally at conferences hosted by the New York chapter of the Muslim American Society in Brooklyn.
"I tell you something about our society: Whoever promotes violence, we don't invite him," said Khalid Lamada, who runs the society's outreach programs. "We deal with the community at large, so we can't afford that."
Islam: Religion or political ideology?
Debate between Robert Spengler of the Asia Times, and Iranian ex-Muslim Ali Sina:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FH10Aa01.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40811.htm
Earlier in a post I mentioned about charities that mislead American's on their benevolent nature.One example I gave was Muslim groups that support Palestinian suicide bombers
through a "Orphan" sponsor facade,well below is a link I found that is very subtle on what a Orphan is and is also vague on their Mission statement and spending percentages.
Check it out and read the drop-down menu items
for a deeper look at what the support,oh,don't be fooled by the cute kid on the home page,they might be a future homocide bomber for Allah.
http://www.kinderusa.org/
August 11, 2004
China? Earthquake in mulsum area?
Iraqi people are pointing out the Terrorist they want to help the USA take back their country from these evil terrorist who are working for Iran! and china?
The Iraqi people will be Free with the Help of the USA and Friends!!!
Remember that pack. just had military ex. with china?
Wow reza what do you say about the earthquake in china in a mulsum area?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory [FREEDOM] Amen
Fifth column. Quisling. Intern. Deport.
peaceful Muslim who taught classes on Islam and sometimes led Friday prayer services.......
Sorry, this argument just doesn't wash - some of the most rabid anti-infidels teach classes on islam & lead prayer services! clerics/mullahs/imams????!!! In their classes & prayers they teach the idiots to aspire to kill infidels & achieve martyrdom.
Abdul Basit, a prayer leader at the New Brunswick Islamic Center, said Mokhtar "is well-regarded."
bin-laden is well regarded by these scum also.
a good person. We never heard anything bad" from him or about him, Basit added.
What is their definition of "bad"? They don't consider bin-laden & his pronouncements bad, they don't think the taliban are bad, they don't think that killing innocent non-muslims is bad, they don't think that terrorism is bad!
"I never witnessed any radical or irrational behavior from him," Muhammad said. "I can honestly say I've never heard anything radical come from his lips involving terrorism - never."
Could this be because they do NOT consider terrorism to be radical or irrational? For the muslims, it is a way of life - & death!
Shoot him.
Gen. Tommy Frank's worst fears may come true?
And I don't think these lib judges will like what will happen?
Part of the American Tribe
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen
Up against the pockmarked wall.
Can't beleive anything you hear from these lying, murdering lowlifes.
America needs to get street wise and dump political correctness, or we'll all be exterminated by the Islamists at the gates and their allies within. that would be the so-called peaceful Muslims living here, the pandering leftist politicos and their left wingnut friends in the alphabet media.
How many times have we heard the same shock and denial in cases involving serial killers, cannibals, etc.? No suprise to hear this regarding jihadist psychopaths - I trust we'll be hearing ALOT more of this in the future.
Okie Dokie,
"Abdul Basit, a prayer leader at the New Brunswick Islamic Center, said Mokhtar "is well-regarded."
"He never spoke anything bad in front of us," Basit said. "In the community, he is a good person. We never heard anything bad" from him or about him, Basit added.
"I never witnessed any radical or irrational behavior from him," Muhammad said. "I can honestly say I've never heard anything radical come from his lips involving terrorism - never."
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What does "well-regarded", "spoke anything bad", "good person", "radical", and "terrorism" mean? In common conversation, they are all subjective terms based on the outlook of the speaker.
Now what would someone mean when using those terms if at the same time their organization recommended educating yourself by reading Chomsky, Zinn, Finkelstein, Said, Moore (F911 fame), and Indymedia?
Well-regarded indeed. Knowing this, these character references should, rightly, fall on deaf ears here. Peruse NBIC:
http://www.nbic.org/resources.html
I meet my neighbor every day, and we speek from time to time. I've known him for a while, but i don't know what he is involved in, and i don't know if he is violent or not or what he really supports. And there is no way those people know what Mazen Mokhtar is involved in, or if he supports jihad just because they meet him from time to time, unles they are very talented psyhological profilers.
"I never witnessed any radical or irrational behavior from him," Muhammad said. "I can honestly say I've never heard anything radical come from his lips involving terrorism - never."
Terrorists don't go around shouting loud that they are terrorists, or they support violent jihad.
Few muslims would ever volunteer damaging info about another muslim. Not only is it against their goal of world domination, but its strongly forbidden/discouraged in their cult, I mean religion.
Some interesting quotes from this site.
http://www.scholarofthehouse.org/islamicsexlaws.html
"Illicit sexual relations must be condemned. At the same time, people should mind their own business, and spying or slandering cannot be tolerated."
"At the same time, an accusatory culture in which people spy and slander is reprehensible, and that will be punished as well."
This is just about adultery, so you can imagine how they feel when it comes to jihad...
A quote from CNN on the Olympics:
“Several groups have held protests in recent months against what they say is an invasion of their privacy, and some demonstrators have spray-painted street cameras, seeking to blind them.
"The Olympic Games are accompanied with extended security measures that are unprecedented for Greece," six human rights groups said in a protest letter to Greek Parliament in July.
"Although the state's right to take all necessary measures that it deems necessary is recognized, there is fear that these measures will have a negative impact on basic human rights."
Such PC Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The negative impact comes from the bloody Muslim Terrorists that force everyone to live this way.
God save us from this bullshit.
Toro
Come on, folks. This nonsense is standard, whether you're talking about Jihadis or ordinary serial killers.
There's always an idiot neighbor to say, "He was such a quiet, polite guy. I just can't believe this is happening in my neighborhood."
It's the quiet ones you have to watch out for!
John Wayne Gacy would have loved these guys
living around him,Gacy was a nice person and never spoke about terrorism of murder.
I guess all those bodies inder his house were put there by the CIA and FBI,how could a quiet reserved man that supports local churches and donates time as a clown to entertain kids be guilty of those charges.
I bought my computer upgrades at a store
run by a very nice man that was also a Muslim,he
let me test out hardware and return it for a better performance item. The only problem I had was one evening when his wife met him at work to
go somewhere with their kids after closing time at 8:00pm,after dropping about 4000.00 dollars
in the store his wife enters with their kids and walks right to the back into the repair area.
No hello,no eye contact,no introduction to his wife,and no sign of them leaving the back room. I wasn't hurt because it's a place of business but really surprised that Muslims call us unfriendly and Islamophobes. This was the summer of 2001 and even after the attack in September I bought a few
USB items and never brought up the subject since he didn't do it. I think the danger in Islam is the distance Muslims put between non-Muslims by a perceived fear of punishment by Allah since Muhammed put it in the Quran. The Nazis distanced soldiers from transferance and after reducing the status of some people to non-human,it was easier to be emotionally detacthed when kill them.
I see people as children of the same God I
want to be sired by,killing one of them in a just war to protect our childrens future is a survival drive and not a hate motivation.
But Imam's seem to speak in the "Third" person as if there're removed from even the Muslims in the Mosque,listen to their defense of Islam and even some Muslims are seen as moderates that offend Allah like women not wearing the Hijab. How safe are we if Mosques are willing to condemn Muslims that don't meet their standards.
I watched a TV debate on a faith based network and the Muslim blamed most things on uncaring non-Muslims that reject Islam,the camera still ran during the closing credits and I saw the Muslims refuse to shake the hand of the Christian and that opened my eyes about Islam.
I can find people that will say that Satan is a good guy, got a bumm wrap, was set up, is miss understood, does good, believes is God, knows the Bible inside and out, and was framed.
Should I then allow him in my house, society or around my family.
The people that would say these things about Satan are of a religion and are of the Church of Satan. They are a religion, so they cannot be descriminated against. They have the same rights as muslims.
Does that put Satan in a good light, so that you think he was a good guy? I did'nt think so....
The Christian Race Rules.
It is always the quiet ones. You never hear the neighbor saying, "I KNEW IT !! There was something about that guy that was fishy. This doesn't surprise me at all."
i cant belive that some people out there still belive that this religion is anything near a peacefull, law-abiding religion. and how stupid is this newspaper reporter listening to 10 muslims tell him another muslim would never do that. HELLO!!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA.
i love this site because it puts the word out there about this low-life so called religion. but its getting harder and harder to read it because after i read it each time i want to get my guns and go out and start blowing aways muslims. they killed my very close sister in the world trade center and they left 2 young kids to grow up without a mother. (well.... many more than 2 but 2 in my family) and i worked at ground zero for 5 months digging thru the rubble of the world trade center. and i have seen with my own eyes what this so-called peacefull religion did.i wish every american can see the horror i have seen. i wish every american can have the nightmares i have. i wish every american can get the flashbacks i get. then i doubt they would be so PC.
and today i read about the A.C.L.U. is going to supply every muslim who get questioned by the F.B.I. with a lawyer. what is this country coming to. does everybody know what the A stands for...
well...... its supposed to stand for america.
WHY IS THIS COUNTRY ALMOST MAKING ME ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN?...in world war 2 all the traders would have been shot. why not now?
Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian, who hated blood sports. Also a decorated war-veteran and liked music by Bach and Wagner. These facts didnt make him any less of an evil megolmaniac.
Similarly all these protestations (true or not) about how nice arrested Moslims are doesnt make them any less guilty.
Mo-ham-head Atta and the rest of his bunch could have been kindergarten teachers 5 years ago but that wouldnt have changed the fact that they committed the most evil acts on 9/11.
Allah and Mohammed are Bullshit
This guy Mohammed, a clever lowlife of his village, goes out into the desert and returns to the village. He tells a few of the poor uneducated villagers that he has gotten the word of god from an angel, and they believe him. He thinks to himself this could turn out to be a real good thing. His status just skyrockets, he suddenly becomes the leader. He continues with his gradually more grandiose tales. Allah is the name of a god represented by a large black meteorite, which is worshipped by the local pagan Arabs. Mohammed decides to use this as the representation of his new god.
Allah asks him and his followers to do some pretty wild and nasty things, like raid other camps and rape, pillage and behead people. Mohammed ends up with the biggest share of the loot and the best looking women. He shows no hesitation in carrying out the most ruthless acts, because even he begins to believe his own stories of Allah’s will. People really like to follow someone who is sure what he is doing is right.
Mohammed seems to have heard voices which talked to him, many people who show these symptoms have psychiatric problems, in other words are crazy. I think he was a sex-addict; he had many wives including very young girls. Many young men of that time period had sex with the animals they tended. Sheep are known to be the source of Syphilis, which over a long period of time will cause madness as the bacterium begins to eat away at the brain.
Mohammed had this weird idea to mix sex with death, and his followers today echo this thinking. Everyone has heard of the 72 virgins that are waiting the shahid. A reporter was interviewing a mother of a Palestinian suicide bomber. She said that her son would brandish his weapon and tell me: 'Mom, this is my bride.' He loved his gun so much." A fifteen year old boy mixes up his love of a weapon for his desire for a female. This in a society which is extremely sexually repressive, is like pouring gasoline on a fire, it will practically explode. John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer well known serial killers in America mixed up sex and death, so it is not unique to Islam, but Islam
takes full advantage of this crossover.
Ooops missed the last line!
Joe...not to get personal but hugs! I am so sorry what happened in your family. For me that day is carved in my heart and mind--especially the people jumping to their deaths...given the choice by the "peaceful" cult of death Islam to either burn to death or fall 100 stories into concrete. Although I did not lose family like you or dig in ground zero, my heart was with you all every day since that horrible day. I feel the same way that you do about Islam and about that ACLU and how they are assisting Muslims institute their cult into our country. I am aghast that immigration continues unabated, that our borders are not closed and secure and that we haven't spent the last 3 years repatriating non-citizen Muslims back to their home countries. I have called and written to congressmen...it is like talking to a wall. I do not want any people from that cult in our country any more for any reason and our stupid government lets "tourism" and immigration continue. I guess it will take another worse catastrophic attack to get everyone on board. I hope that as time goes on the true God will provide good people in the lives of those 2 children who will be like a mother to them. I am so sorry! I completely agree with what you are saying, and I look forward to the day when the true God brings all these people to justice in the way only He can. The only thing Islam brings to the earth is mind control, death, rape, destruction, suicide, mutilations, kidnappings, slavery, child abuse and rape, wife mutilation and death, and every excuse to murder.
so they let another one run free-what a bunch of horseshit--"he has no ties"-not yet- the same thing with the videotaper-they let him run free as well-man if the police forces keep this up-we are doomed-go to your local gunshop and stock up my friends-because it looks like theyre will be war in the streets and we cannot depend on these police forces to help us
These people are only at peace when they are at war....so this explains why this gent was such a "nice peacefull peson"
Hey guys...been away for a while. Terrorists?Where? It's gonna take another one I'm afraid.Sad.My father's generation(He fought in N.Africa and Italy,as well as China -Burma -India) would have nipped this in the bud already,but here we are.He told me that these people dug up our dead,stole their wedding rings and watches,clothes. Nothing was off limits to these people.He also told me that they never messed with us after we shot a few of 'em. I served in the U.S. Army from 85-93,I was trained at Ft. Benning,Georgia. I am proud to have the blue cord of the infantry.My generation was ready to kick some commi ass,but I fear the further years of indocrination of our precious youth has left many of them helpless. They are dependent.As they have been programmed to be.God help us all.All the rest of us can do is fight the good fight...I fear something is afoot.Be on your guard.I saw many things in my life that I wish I had'nt between 85-93,but it left me with this impression.There are VERY EVIL people in the world who would kill a human being faster than you can say,"profiling".The missing tanker trucks from Texas and N.J. The missing ammonium nitrate(like a 2,000 pds. or more).It will all add up.I hope we are not kicking ourselves in the ass in a month or so.(Even after my vacation-REZA you are still a chumpsucker.Vile,ignorant,and selfish.There is still time to turn to the Christ....but it is running out!)
Ala-sux,
It's a real shame that John Wayne Gacy didn't live in their neighbourhood, there'd be a hell of a lot less jihad to worry about.
Rikki,
The Islamo-fascists invaded Plano, Texas USA.
Better foward this information to Catherine!
"Darul Uloom Azizia
Islamic Academy has opened a Darul Uloom (Islamic School) first of its kind in USA".
Here are some fatwas from their website.
Check out the one about trimming nails,these people are bloody nutz!
How to trim nails Islamic way?
(Darul Uloom Amjadia, India, Printed in Monthly Kanzul Iman-India)
Q: What is the Masnoon (Sunnat) way to trim nails and on which days nails should not be trimmed?
A: The Masnoon (Sunnat) way of trimming nails is to start trimming nails from the index finger (Shahadat) of the right hand and work your way down to pinkie finger. Then proceed to the left hand starting from pinkie finger and finishing up at thumb. Finally the thumb of right hand should be trimmed. There is no sequence has been mentioned for feet nail trimming though it is better to use the same sequence used to do Khalal of feet (Start from the pinkie of right foot and finish it up at the thumb, then start from the thumb of left foot towards pinkie). Same is mentioned in Bahare Shariat (part 16, page 196) and Fatawae Alamgeri (part 5, page 358), *1. There is no prohibition regarding the days to avoid trimming nails. Whichever day the nails are trimmed on is Masnoon because there is no proven Hadis about prescribed days. But in some Zaeef (weak) Ahadees Wednesday is prohibited for trimming nails. Therefore if Wednesday is the day of Wajoob (Wajib to perform nail trimming). For example if a person has not trimmed nails for 39 days and 40th day is on Wednesday and if he/she does not trim nails on Wednesday than 40 days would be completed. Then it will be Wajib on him/her to trim nails on Wednesday because it is prohibited and Makrooh-e-Tehreemi to exceed 40 days without trimming nails.
Allah Tala Knows The Best.
"Then it will be Wajib on him/her to trim nails on Wednesday because it is prohibited and Makrooh-e-Tehreemi to exceed 40 days without trimming nails".
Allah Tala Knows The Best.
What the fuck is"Wajib"?
Sonny,
I don't know.
More to the point though, who the fuck is allah ("Allah, who the fuck is allah"?.... as the song goes)????