Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer has a new article at FrontPage this morning about Spain's new plan to pay off mosques:
The Spanish government, true to the principle of appeasement that it rode to power on after the 3/11 bombings, is considering paying money to mosques. The stated purpose is to make the mosques less dependent upon foreign money — particularly, of course, terror financing from Saudi Wahhabis or others.That money is pouring in. The March 11 terrorist bombers were active members of mosques that betrayed strong Wahhabi influence. According to Antonio Camacho, the Interior Ministry’s secretary of state security, the new payment scheme is “about keeping them from having to look outside for financing because the state does not, in a way, support their activities.”
So are we to believe that because the state hasn’t supported Spanish mosques, they turned to the Wahhabis out of desperation? And so money will make the Wahhabis disappear? This is the sort of harebrained scheme that only true sons of Aethelred the Unready could dream up, or perhaps more precisely true sons of Marx and Engels, so besotted with socialism and materialism that they can’t fathom the possibility that anyone could be motivated by anything other than the desire for material gain. The jihad? Pah. They just want money. Give them some and they’ll quiet down.
Their misapprehension is elephantine. Consider the probability that many Spanish radical Muslims are familiar with the ideas espoused by Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966), the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood theorist whose writings are still widely available all over the world (including the United States today), and which are revered by radical Muslims as a comprehensive exposition of their program. In his exhaustive, thirty-volume exposition of the Muslim holy book, Fi Zilal al-Qur’an (In the Shade of the Qur’an), Qutb wrote: “As the only religion of truth that exists on earth today, Islam takes appropriate action to remove all physical and material obstacles that try to impede its efforts to liberate mankind from submission to anyone other than God. … The practical way to ensure the removal of those physical obstacles while not forcing anyone to adopt Islam is to smash the power of those authorities based on false beliefs until they declare their submission and demonstrate this by paying the submission tax.”
Likewise, a high school textbook entitled Islamic Culture, produced by the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Education: “Islam is Allah’s religion for all human beings. It should be proclaimed and invite [people] to join it wisely and through appropriate preaching and friendly discussions. However, such methods may encounter resistance and the preachers may be prevented from accomplishing their duty… then, Jihad and the use of physical force against the enemies become inevitable…”
Do these statements sound to you as if they were made by people who will be turned from their goal by a few euros?
Lenin once prophesied that “the capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them.” Wrong again, Vladimir Ilych, but it wasn’t for want of trying. Lest we forget, throughout the years of détente the Soviets were treated to grain deals, technology transfers and all manner of other goodies designed to prove our good will and even gain leverage over Soviet policies by creating an economic relationship. It took Soviet tanks rolling into Kabul to show that the influence gained by such maneuvers was slight at best.
Yet now Europe has embarked on this path again. The historian Bat Ye’or details in her upcoming book, Eurabia, how not just Spain, but the European Union as a whole has pursued a short-sighted and self-destructive policy of accommodation toward the Islamic world for decades now, freely adopting the posture of subservient dhimmis, as non-Muslims are termed in Islamic law, toward their Muslim masters. They have encouraged Islamic immigration without assimilation or any assurance that the immigrants would not be attached to the principles of Islamic law, including violent jihad. They have adopted the foreign policy stances of the Islamic world — becoming in effect the willing accomplices of their own destruction. “The spirit of dhimmitude which today blinds Europe,” said Bat Ye’or at a seminar at the French Senate in June, “springs not from a situation imposed from without, but from a choice made freely, and systematically carried out, in its political dimensions, over the course of the last 30 years.”
Spain reaped the fruit of these suicidal policies last March. Now they think that the damage they have done can be undone by a little cash. It is much more likely that Spain’s nightmare is just beginning.
Sometimes before I asked you to consider invading Alaska becuase of its valuable resources. Then I tried to intorduce Cuba and Mexico to you, in the hope to keep you away from middle east and the misery your tyranny machine brings for Muslims. But on and on you still insist to show your disrespect and humilation for Muslim Brother and sisters and continue to practice mass murder. Now it's very clear that you are The Enemy of Almighty Allah (swt) and are fighting Holy Islam delibrately, otherwise you would choose one of the several other options presented to you.
Stop your malicious aggression against innocent Muslim Brother and Sisters and consider digging in for another kind of resources somewhere else in this planet, or in Mars.
The Regime of King Goerge Bush is over and Almighty Allah (swt) will prevail ultimately.
What utter irresponsible foolishness! Do they honestly believe that the Islamists won't just use the extra cash on top of what they keep receiving from their Muslim sources?
I firmly believe that this is a product of Leftist thinking -- they seem so intent on hedonism that they do not understand that human beings can be motivated by something other than instant gratification.
Once again, Robert, you do a terrific job of putting things into perspective. We need you in Washington.
Mahmoud:
Oh, the poor, poor murderous Islamists once again trying to paint themselves as the victims. For 1300 years you have spread your cult across the globe to get us to this point, where zealotry possesses WMDs and can not wait to strike out at unbelievers again and again until the world bleeds and is engulfed in your holy war.
Do not act so surprised that your madmen have finally gotten the war they were looking for, or did you honestly think you could usurp the peoples of the world by polygamy, concubines, lies, rape and violent proselytizing forever?
The Koran will be rewritten or Islam will be wiped of the earth.
Hopefully they will Not get Spain back, Mahmoud. In any case, the Basque's have prior claim to it, every bit as legit as yours. I mean, they were on the Iberian Peninsula long before muslims- they needed somewhere to go after their own country Sank.
(Think about it, guys... read again until you get it).
(and No offense to the Basque people. I'm making a subtle point here)
It is not just appeasement. When I lived in Spain, so many Spaniards spoke wistfully about the glory that was Spains when the "Moors" ruled. On some level they equate their days of glory with Islam. How to fight that?
Twinkie, are you taking your spelling lessons from Abraham Bushwhacker, our resident Masters Degree braggard?
Bush isn't a King. He is an elected official. And did I see that you mentioned our way of life bringing misery and tyranny to Muslims? Yes, you're right, I'm sure Muslims love having acid baths, and having their hands chopped off.
You're an idiot.
Mahmoud, you stupid git, we already own Alaska.
Just because paint chips are low carb, it doesn't make them healthy.
The Senate meeting yesterday, aired last night on C-Span gave great insight as to the idea of freedom being taught, voluntarily or involuntarily to Muslims, even in Muslim countries. They said alot about Muslims and Islamism, especially Islamist Terror....Man I love saying that, because it pisses off the Muslim Special Treatment Expectancy Groups.
Muslims are going to live by the law of the land, our land, or they're going to pay dearly. It's finally started, political correctness taking a back seat to National Security, that is.
Muslims deserve no special treatment. The gloves are on the ice.......Go back to the sandy ghetto if you're so happy with the sharia......it won't be implemented here, jerks.
As far as I can see the Spanish deserve the Muslims and the Muslims deserve the Spaniards...
Let them live together happily ever after until, that is, they or any of their citizens are proven to have committed or conspired to commit acts of terror against the US and then let them fall fast and HARD! Until then not allowing visas to the US should help wake them up.
Sheesh! Are Afghanistan and Iraq not example enough?
Dude! Where's my Mosque?
We already know Moore panders to the islamofascists. Does anyone know if he donates to their 'causes'?
It appears that most of Europe have gone suicidal. Oh, well. In the end, they'll get what they deserve.
Does anyone know if the leftmedia has picked up on this story?
LMAO! Noo mound, you did it again. Your intelect shines brightly.
Alaska in a USA state, dumbass. Thy bought it from the russians. Other parts of the aslaska coast were bought from Canada.
They never "invaded" anything.
The only "invaders" on the planet are Muslims.
If they weren't, the only "muslims" in the world would live in Mecca. We can't include Medina because Muhammad took that JEWISH community by FORCE.
Read your own ROCK CULT history, Moo-mound.
NO SPAINGELD FOR MUSLIM INVADERS! DOWN WITH DHIMMI
ZAPATERO! SET FIRE TO MOSQUES AND ARM CIVILIANS.
What a pity to speak about this, it´s very hard the things that we have to see here, but the people is very idiotised and is very complicated to speak the truth, they say racist or xenofobical but they don´t want to know the truth, but I would like that the people don´t generalise, we are many people against this, yes I know, we aren´t the majority, we are like the resistence in Nazi times, few people but with the truth, that is very important.
If you want news about this, I would like to say, that there a ex-communist that now is a very radical muslim Mansur Escudero, Mansur is the name of Al-Mansur a muslim that robe, kill and destroy many towns of spain in the reconquista when the caliphate of Cordoba was important and strong, he profanated the Saint James Cathedral and it was his final because he died a few later, well, this man, wants the Sharia but he said in very beautiful words, the propaganda is very great about this things.
Greetings
re:
"The Koran will be rewritten or Islam will be wiped off the earth."
--Posted by: Foehammer
Preferably the latter. You really couldn't do much with the former. What distinguishes the koran from the texts from which it lifted parts, aside from its lack of cohesion, are the passages calling for the maiming and death of all those who refuse to believe in the unseen idol that mohammed (mhrih) dubbed "allah."
You take out the anti-unbeliever verses and you are left with the rest of the gibberish--the bits and pieces heard by its progenitor from Jews and Christians plus the camel-piss, defecation-orientation and rules for other unsanitary practices.
To get the virgins in paradise you have to be "martyred" while carrying out violent acts against unbelievers. If you take out the part about attacking unbelievers, the road to paradise would have to be through devotion and good deeds, neither of which are as attractive as killing.
Anyway, who would want to try and rewrite that night soil vomited out through the slack jaws of an unhinged mind? Not I.
If the Spaniards had any spine, they'd take that money, hire a hundred or so demolition companies, and slam wrecking balls into the piss ridden Mosks....
There are many proud Christian Spaniards. I hope they find their way to America....
let's look at Spain realisticly. They have become hopelesly socialist, and appeasing to Islam.
Perhaps they will remember history and fight, who knows.
But remember, even Hitler didn't give Spain much value. He considered, as Churchhill did, Spain as a people unwilling to fight. Strange how history repeats in such a short time.
I have hope for Spain to fight however.
In what way is this different than paying a jizya? Why not just ban foreign funding?
Franze,
If what I am preceiving about you (That you are in Spain or are a Spaniard) is correct, then I do apologize for the generalizations about Spaniards deserving Muslims and visa versa...
That said, get busy MAN! Get to your friends and neighbors while you still hold any resemblence to a free country and get them to VOTE this socialists government they voted IN...OUT!
America does not desert friends or allies...A fact some posters from the UK and Europe seem to forget! Get back on track, toss the islamists out with the morning trash and you will have all the support we can offer to help you remain a free country.
Or, sit home and whine until the Muslim enforcers show up at your door...At which point you will have a very clear cloice to make...Worship Allah or die.
Susanc typed "America does not desert friends or allies..."
Cough *Remember Serbia* cough. An ally during both World Wars, neutral during the Cold War, abandoned in the 1990s. Why the US Government decided it would authorise Iranians and other Mujahideen to fly into the Balkans during the conflicts I dont think I'll ever know.
All the Serbs wanted to do was rid their land from the cancer that is Islam...
Oh well as as Milosevic once said, "And then when they [Moslems] start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about...". With the sad news of the poor guy from San Francisco it seems that day has come.
I could also type a few lines about how the American government has refused to acknowledge that the Turks [Moslems] committed genocide against the Armenians [Christians] after WWI but that is by the by.
I read today that the US Government granted asylum to a Chechen Islamic Terrorist wanted by Russia. Not exactly a great move to build coalitions against terrorism. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3542560.stm). Its also interesting that the article on this site mentions Soviet Tanks in Kabul, perhaps if the Soviets had been left to turn Afghanistan into a car park and their tanks were still there this whole islamic mess wouldnt be as bad as it is now. Still hindsight's a wonderful thing.
But I take your point that by and large America doesnt abandon allies... its just a shame more people in the civilised world dont seem to agree with our stance on the need to eliminate these Moslem bastards.
Tranmere rover,
I guess I should get used to America being blamed for every war or conflict on this vast planet regardless of whether we had anything to do with them??
American is NOT responsible for Serbian internal politics or Milosevic. When are you America Haters going to get it though your heads? America is NOT the KEEPER of the WORLD...
I suppose you think that we are responsible for the atrocities in the Middle East or the Sudan also? and Possibly we are somehow to blame for the Monsoons?
America is also NOT respoisible for Spains knuckleing under to Islamic Terror and voting out the Governemnt that offered some resistance to it. But I will say again, If the Spainards come to their senses and reject the socialists running the country, America will Rally to their side against Islamic terror intent on bringing world domination to Islam!
I for one think that the NATIONS that border nations that needs help or threatens its neighbors are RESPONSIBLE for supplying the help or stopping the threat! North Korea is a perfect example…Let China and Japan worry about that NUT building Nukes…and let the Nations that border Serbia worry about its internal strife!
Tranmere...America is the YOUNGEST Government on this Planet...We are also what is referred to as The Great Experiment being the FIRST and ONLY Government EVER Formed that declares itself to be #1 Under GOD and #2 OF BY AND FOR IT OWN PEOPLE. Does this make us responsible for every war that erupts on this planet? NO!
This Form of Government brought to us great wealth and as a result great power and for that I DO NOT APOLOGIZE, But this Power and Wealth are NOT freebies. WE Earned them... and WE can use them as we see fit... and so far we have seen fit to be the largest supplier of Food/Medicines/ and technical and Financial help to ALL underdeveloped nations on behalf of THE PEOPLE of these nations...NOT the thugs that run them.
Find another scapegoat, I for one AS an American am tired of the old blame America game! We enjoy Peace within our borders. We do not need international intervention to stop genocide. We do not harbor thugs and we do not train or export religious terror! America is not perfect, but by damn we are working harder than any other nation on earth to be JUST, Even when this trait works against us in the form of political correctness!