A first-class case of projection. From AP, with thanks to Nicolei:
Muslims worldwide fear Christians are waging a "war against Islam," Malaysia's leader said on Tuesday, blaming the campaign against terror for increased tensions between the religions.In an emotional speech to the World Council of Churches, Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said the events that followed the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, including the U.S.-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, "have all taken religious undertones."
"In the eyes of many Muslims, events in the last three years seem to lend credence to the view that the Christian West is, once again, at war with the Muslim world," Abdullah told representatives from Protestant, Orthodox and Anglican churches.
It was the first time that a prime minister in this moderate, predominantly Muslim country -- which chairs the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference -- was addressing an exclusively Christian audience, Malaysian officials said.
Abdullah begged Christians and Muslims to "work together for the sake of peace and justice."
"We cannot stand before a compassionate God while there is so much we have left undone because we are disunited," he said, wiping away tears as his voice began to crack.
Gee, I'm getting a little choked up myself. But saying all this to the WCC is just preaching to the choir. Let him go to Jemaah Islamiyah or any other radical Muslim group and say it, and we may start to make some progress.
"In the eyes of many Muslims, events in the last three years seem to lend credence to the view that the Christian West is, once again, at war with the Muslim world," Abdullah told representatives from Protestant, Orthodox and Anglican churches.
9/11/01, 9/11/01, 9/11/01......Muslim pricks senselessly murdered 3000 people on this date. Personally, war was waged on this date. So, war it is, Islamic bitches.
You wanted it, now you have it. We're here, and hell came with us.
'Religous undertones'?
What were OBL's words again, in his declaration of war against the West and the US in particular?
btw, it Was a declaration of war, and the war was begun by a muslim. Altho he had to make it several times before Clinton even began to notice.
Well, maybe they should stop running around screaming, "Jihad" and performing those ritualistic beheadings. Religion of peace my ars.
To quote Saffron Monsoon "Pretty accurate assessment so far, I'd say."
Them or us.
Them or us.
Hmmm. Actually not a hard decision. Don't have to flip a coin to figure this one out.
US.
As Americans, we have traditionally had no particular beef with any specific religion.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a nation on this planet that has a better tradition of religious and ethnic tolerance. We don't always suceed, but we sure try harder than anyone else to be sensitive to the needs of the various social, ethnic and religous groups in this world.
Keeping that tolerance got much harder over the last few years. Muslim "extremists" declared war upon America and attacked us numerous times, until in the wake of the most violent attacks on September 11, 2001, we decided to strike back.
It is only after we struck back and severely damaged the cause of Jihad that Muslims start calling for peace. Funny, I didn't here you calling for peace when Osama was killing our people. Forgive me if I don't feel like listening to you right now.
"As you sow, so shall you reap."
Islam started this war against the West. The West will finish it.
Amen.
Could this possibly seem this way to muslims because they have begun to wage war against Christians? And Jews, and Hindus, and Budhists, and atheists...
Religious undertones? Is that what muslims mean when they shout 'allah akbar' and cite jihad duty as justification for their actions?
Islam truly stunts higher brain activity.
I think Ahmad Badawi needs to get Islamic leaders to support a fatwa against the umma that defines in the stongest terms how the terrorists are leading their flock astra.
To many fundamentalists follow tha hadiths rather than the Quran which leads to their folley in a modern and civilzed world.
Maybe the establishment of a caliphate that adheres more to the 114 suras is better than the reckless interpretation of the some 24,000 hadiths that get misused and abused by the radicals.
Wonder where Reza is with his comments?
This must really gall Reza. This sniveling Muslim fool crying foul when the true intent of his "religion" is made clear to the world. Instead of proudly proclaiming the Muslims ownership of the planet and their right to attack all that reject Islam, this jerk is pleading with Christians to make nice?
Oh Well Reza, I guess Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is just one more Muslim Infidel to add to your "To Kill" list?
Mackie,
Since the koran also contains exhortations towards jihad, and those passages abrogate earlier, peaceful passages, how is it going to help to have the mohammedans adhere to a book that advocates "slaying the infidels"? With or without the hadith, the belief system these people cling to is still going to advocate the same thing, isn't it?
Walker Colt:
Granted without question, I chose to think out of the box on this. It is estimated there where over 60,000 hadiths (traditions of Mohammed)at one time that the umma followed and over the years they have been reduced to some 24,000.
If muslims adhered more strongly to the suras rather than the hadiths, than there could be some reconciling of of those suras` that defile the people of the book.
The Tahrif should be reformed by Islamic leaders for its doctrine is what teaches muslims that the Bible, and the Torah are corrupted scriptures even though the Quran was clearly copied from the bible by followers of Mohammed.
"Abdullah begged Christians and Muslims to "work together for the sake of peace and justice."
What is this crap about begging Christians to work with Muslims for peace.
It's the Islamo-fascists who are the purportraters, and they know nothing of peace but they sure as hell will understand the word "justice."
This Abdullah Ahmad Badawi fellow who is calling for Christians and muslims to all get along..
Two things:
He either doesn't mean it and is only saying this as part of the big-lie that muslims are peaceful and that Christians are the aggressors. In which case, his rhetoric should be completely ignored..
Or.. He does mean it and honestly wants Christians and muslims to get along. In which case, since he is outwardly contradicting the teachings of the islamic deathcult's so-called holy book, his body is almost assuredly going to turn up behind the local mosque without his head..
Islam has not reformed it's self in the 14 bloody centuries that this scourge has been in the world, and it's not about to happen now.
The only way to improve the Qu'an is to burn the whole dam thing, in fire of Hell!
Mahadi,
Correct you are.
Badawi has just labeled himself an apostate by contradicting the Qu'an and asking for peace.
I'm sure he'll be a headless apostate soon enough.
OT, but here is another bit of the war against the West:
http://www.local6.com/money/3614199/detail.html
Lord help us.
"Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." Qur'an 8:39
"O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding." Qur’an 8:65
"When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam." Qur’an 47:4
And it's the Christians who are waging a war against Islam???
Muzzies started this war and the "Infidel" army will finish it!
"Muslims fear Christians waging war against Islam'
"In the eyes of many Muslims, events in the last three years seem to lend credence to the view that the Christian West is, once again, at war with the Muslim world,"
So let me get this straight.…..
The bastard OBL declares that it is an Islamic imperative as defined in the komic book Koran, to kill westerners.
He funds and brainwashes over 20,000 soulless idiots to follow him.
He kills 3,000 innocent US citizens by roasting or crushing them and subsequently laughs at the carnage.
He bombs embassies, the U.S.S. Cole and countless other innocents.
His brainless minions, multipy and sow death and destruction around the world while 'moderate' Muslims support his efforts financially without a word of revulsion.
Fear a war by the Christians?!!!
Your god damn right that these bastards fear Christians will wage a war against Islam.
These cockroaches need to do their evil in the dark hiding in their excrement while sheltered from the light by the West’s proclivity to being PC.
These maggots want to wage war without being at war. They know it is easier for them to be the assassin than the soldier.
A declared war would only bring light and their ultimate destruction.
In this battle, the West may well have no choice but to let lose the dogs of war and illuminate these insects.
Toro
Mackie,
With regard to reforming mohammedanism, Infidel's post just above this one just enforces the point I made. Like you, I would love it if a reformed, non-violent islam was possible, but I don't see that happening. By way of example, reformation within Christianity was removing influences on the text of the New Testament, and adhereing closer to what the book said. islam doing the same is what the Wahabbi has asvocated. in islam, Reform Requires Rewrite.
Even with that being said, it IS a nice thing to hope for - however, if people like Reza are any indication, there's not much hope to go around.
Muslims around the globe....In the tents, in the huts, in the caves, in the genie lamps, and soaring on their flying carpets, ye be warned: the "Infidel Infantry" is here, there, and everywhere.....The Infidel Infantry is at war with you. Not by choice, but by choice to live.
Ready or not........Here we come.
Its very simple people, islam CANNOT be reformed, else it is not true islam.
Islam says mohammed (spit), was Gods messenger. And Gods messenger says kill the infidels unless they accept islam, the true word of God. The koran (spit), is supposedly the perfect word of God, and it is full of edicts about killing infidels (non-muslims).
Therefore a muslim can never change anything about this religion as its supposedly sacred and it was commanded by allah (spit).
That is something we have to accept and deal with appropriately. Its like trying to argue with the nazis or any other fascists. Its either accept their way of life, or die, thats why they are fascists.
Colt,
Hope, the only thing to hope for is that we send these bastards straight to "Allah" before the next 9/11 happens.
And the Islamo-bastards that are here, most of them sympathize with the terrorist-scum ,as such they need to be rounded up and deported,preferably on an old leaky boat.
Moses,
You are 100% correct.
Plain and simple, Islam is an ideology of evil just as Nazism and Fascism was,as such there is no dialogue with these bastards.
There is only one way of dealing with evil and that is to totally destroy it.
Seems like this is part of the marketing plan of the "peaceful religion" wing of the Islamist global caliphate agenda. Heck, if (uninformed) Americans can beleive Michael Moore's rampant, bold, sickening lies, why not believe this crap?
The more you repeat a lie, the more you believe it? What about those Muslims telling the world the Jews flew planes into the WTC? I could go on...
The more I learn about this growing problem, the more I see that the world is composed of two types: those folk who want the light shined, & see truth, and others "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" or even more alarming, in their vision of the world, there is no such thing as "evil", which usually results in the the "victim is blamed" scenario.
Case in point: USA is the great satan. How many self-hating American believe that? Scary, aye?
SonofMoses,
Exactly my point, more diplomatically worded. When all is said and done,I don't think mohamedanism is reformable. It requires a rewrite, so it won't be islam, or palatable to those who hold fast to the "pure, true, faith" - reform would only give them another target to shoot at when the inevitable schism happens.
Son of Infidel,
"send 'em all to hell" (where Allah lives) isn't a good method of changing the minds of the "less determined" (blinders on!), but yeah, that's probably what's going to happen before all this plays out.
Daughter of Patriots, (sure are a lotta offspring in here ;-P)
I like your phrase "the more I learn about..." That's what will eventually win the battle here, is information to the people who want to believe in their multicultural fantasy of world peace. Just keep on talking to people and educate them.
Muslims believe that we are at war with Islam because we refuse to roll over and take it. We refuse to be silent and we insist upon resisting.
"Chritianity" has nothing to do with "War" on Muslims.
It's "Muslims" who are waging war on the world.
How dare this ass try claim otherwise. Does he think we "christians" buddists, Hindu's athiests etc not know what:
Ishaq:208 “When Allah gave permission to his Apostle to fight, the second Aqaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of submission. Now we bound themselves to war against all mankind for Allah and His Apostle. He promised us a reward in Paradise for faithful service. We pledged ourselves to war in complete obedience to Muhammad no matter how evil the circumstances.”
and:
Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”
and:
Ishaq:204 “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”
For this "Person" (Islamic rock worshiper) to suck up now, knowing that the real, non- Islamic world is much stronger than they think, is a sign of cowardness.
He contradicts the koran as well, and according to Muhammad, should be put to death.
Ismam is about death and destruction untill all is Islam, nothing else.
People like girly boy Reza point this out repeatedly. Their reward is death.
This is NOT a Christian VS Islam war, it's an Islam VS world war. Lets grant Islam it's death wish once and for all.
With muslims like Reza, and Malmoud ranting out vitriolic comments in condemnation of all religions, save Islam. It is difficult to show tolerance in this never ending debate. Though the modern teachings of Christianity call for tolerance and forgiveness. (Forgive us our transgessors who transgress against us).
For those who wrote the Quran and the Hadiths based on the words spoken by Mohammed through the Arch Angel Gabriel,it appears to have been still steeped in the paganism of the past and even after Mohammeds revelations.
The hardened militancy of Islam made its break from the teachings of Mohammed from the city of Karbula in Iraq some 20 years after the death of Mohammed and they called themselves the Kharajites. It is this militancy of the Kharajites that took hold in Islam .
The Wahhabists fundamental Islamic Ideology follows in the tracks of this Islamic militancy that raged across the middleast,Europe and North Africa for 500 years in the establishment of the Ottoman Empire. But over the last 400 years Islam has imploded because of militancy and tribalism.
Wahhabism was founded more than two hundred years ago in Saudia Arabia and it is this radical fundamentalism that has hijacked Mecca and even threatens the House of Saud, though how corrupt they are.
There have been attempts to preach and restore Islam to a more peaceful movement such as the Jadidism movement that was destroyed by the emergence of the Soviet Union in 1923. That effort was to bring Islams religious Ideology to where it comported with a more modern and civilized world.
Today that kind of muslim is referred to as a moderate and in more radical Islam he is of course thought of as an apostate.
Much of Islam in the middle east is deeply jealous of the west and its strength and great wealth. Their religious Ideology has suppressed their ability to become great and prosperous societies partly because they have dismissed half of their population (women).
The civilized worlds battle and trouble with Islam is that it has always been a movement with its own laws (sharia)and government. It has always left itself wide open and vulnerable to dictators,demogogues, and despots. It needs to get rid of the radicals in Islam and draw closer to a democratic form of government if it wants to survive in this modern world, and many Islamic intellectuals realize this but they are probably drowned out by the radicals and defined as apostates.
Of the more than 190 countries in the world ,more than 60 percent of these countries now have some form of democratic government and they are prospering because of it.
Fundamental Islam will be left behind if it continues to represent itself as the bad seed to the rest of the world.
Quite true -- the coming war will not put the West without allies. I have confidence the Hindu, Orthodox and Japanese and Africans will side with the West against Islam.
China will be the power to watch in the coming years. If China sides with the Islamist states against the rest of the world, things could get uglier very quickly. I would hope that the Chinese would not choose so unwisely.
Foehammer,
Good point.
We certianly do need to monitor the Chinese closley.
I don't trust those communist red bastards.
I bet (lack of)truth in the 'Taliban' thread trusts the Chinese. They are his kind, after all. Red, and bastards.
Anybody ever made cole-slaw before? I think I got it right...
I expect the Chinese will sit it out.
As for being red bastards; I think communism is slowly on the way out there. I think eventually Taiwan and (no longer Red) China will then reunite peacefully and democratically. As long as we defend Taiwan until that day comes.
The Chinese are an exquisite people.
It would be a grievous error to forget Taiwan thru distraction by the Islamic problem. They've really come along in democracy in a natural way.
Wish they were in the UN....we should bring them into NATO.
TOO DAMN RIGHT WE ARE AT WAR! A Global Jihad forced upon us by MUSLIMS. Take no notice of crocodile tears and wringing of hands etc, all part of Smokescreen. As for China, this country has been efficiently getting RID of Jihadists. After some torture, Muslims warriors are dispatched to Allah. Note, there is NO call by Osama B to urge more Jihad in Chinese terrority...
Muzzies know what awaits them before they get to Paradise and 72 Virgins. These Global Cowards prefer soft targets in the West and kid gloves PC
treatment when they are caught.
Afrafaste,
I was referring to the Red Chinese government, not the Chinese people or there culture.
"I think communism is slowly on the way out there. I think eventually Taiwan and (no longer Red) China will then reunite peacefully and democratically. As long as we defend Taiwan until that day comes".
I am sorry but your above statement is in error.
The communist Chinese government has not softened it's hardline and repressive posture one bit.
Reguarding Taiwan,
http://www.blogsofwar.com/archives/2004/07/29/china-threatens-taiwan-attack-by-2008/
"On july 17th I posted that Jiang Zemin Vows to Attack Taiwan by 2020. Well it looks like their plans have accelerated a bit":
"China may attack Taiwan if the island’s President Chen Shui-bian pushes ahead with a plan for a new constitution by 2008, the China Daily on Friday quoted a top Taiwan affairs official as saying".
"The remarks by Vice Minister of the Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi were the latest tough words by Beijing toward the democratically ruled island, which it regards as a breakaway province that must be reclaimed by force if necessary".
Morgane,
Thats for sure there won't be any Halal meat or any mosques going up anytime soon.
One thing about those red Chinese they don't tolorate any of that "Allah" crap.
And when was the last time you saw a "burkha" in Bejing.
The only thing those communist bastards did right.
"We cannot stand before a compassionate God while there is so much we have left undone because we are disunited," he said, wiping away tears as his voice began to crack. "
Hell-o-ohhh Christians stand before a compassionate God, Muslims stand before allah.
Slight difference.
Son of Infidel;
I beg to differ there friend,
something else the Chinese are doing right.
Son of an Infidel:
*nod* I didn't think you were condemning the people as a whole.
I'm very aware of the recent bluster by the Red Chinese government regarding Taiwan but I think it's just that as long as we hold true to Taiwan. But PRC will periodically test our resolve on that score. They did it back in 1996; and we held true.
My optimism is based on my impression of changing attitudes on the part of the people I come in contact with being in the sciences in academia. When the Red Chinese first started coming here around 1980, they were as red as red can be. But more recently, they are into building ambitious lives materialism and well....enjoying life. Also, many more Chinese are coming here to study....(Thomas Friedman recently wrote a pretty humorous column about a bulletin board in which Chinese students were advising each on other how to handle certain US officials at the embassy to get approval to come here. The officials would grant approcal to someone with a far-out reason for wanting to come to the US....and the next day, hundreds would be using the same reason!)
Back in 1980(and I've heard the numbers aren't much different now) only about 5% of college age Chinese go to college and only about 3% of those go to grad school and only a small fraction of those go abroad for grad school, so if someone accuses me of seeing a very small select sampling of the red population; I can't deny it.
However, I see a lot of Chinese in the markets here, in real estate, etc. and they strike me as being such an entrepreneurial people that I really think my long range optimism is justified. (Of course these are the ones who LEFT China, but there may be more who want to but can't afford to).
The same way the USSR fell peacefully; so will communism fall, I think, in China (and without nearly as much fragmentation that the USSR experienced).
Son of an Infidel:
Many Chinese have also told me how capitalism is on the rise on the cities in China.
Check out this link from Price-Waterhouse:
http://www.pwcglobal.com/extweb/newcolth.nsf/docid/3D15C57A6D220BB985256CF6007B9607
It starts:
Hidden Dragon: Unleashing China's Private Sector
by Allan Zhang
China's private sector is booming. Today, it is one of the fastest-growing economic engines in the world economy. This growth received an official "seal of approval" in the speech by Jiang Zemin, China's former President and party general secretary at the 16th Communist Party Congress held late last year, in which he stressed the importance of the private sector (including foreign company investors) to China's economic development. Jiang also promised vigorous legal protection of private property and vowed to overhaul regulations that discriminate against foreign companies.
This welcoming attitude contrasts sharply with the "party line" of the 1970s, when private businesses were viewed as "capitalist tails that must be cut off" and entrepreneurs were condemned. Why has the Communist Party suddenly embraced capitalism? The reasons are complex. Clearly the decision will have far-reaching implications: it promises to further open the vast, long-elusive Chinese market to the West and to provide China's own resilient, but undeveloped, private sector with the support it needs to thrive and compete on the world stage. In this article, PwC economist Allan Zhang describes the impact of these momentous changes for both China and the global economy.
Kc,
Thanks for the link.
The communist government in China has been waging a brutal war aganist Christians for many years.
The following organization keeps track of and documents this.
The Voice of the Martyrs is a non-profit, interdenominational organization with
a vision for aiding Christians around the world who are being persecuted for their beliefs.
VOM was founded by the Reverand Richard Wurmbrand, who spent 14 years in Romanian prisons.He wrote a book called Tortured for Christ as well as others.
http://www.persecution.com/
It is not Christianity that will wage the war that is coming, but newest, shiniest and most powerful religion in the world, the creed of Freedom. This religion is the broadest of Churches, and welcomes all religions or no religion, within its fold. It is the most benign and tolerant of all ideologies and allows everyone to have any opinion they want.
However there is a dark side of this religion. If this religion feels itself threatened, it is the most intolerant and ruthless in the entire history of mankind. It has no divine, moral or ethical compunctions whatever, and will unhesitatingly use WMD's if it feels necessary, for its survival. It was quite willing to destroy the world several times over, just to protect itself.
Muslims have no idea who and what they are messing with.
What WMD's does it use? Big meteors every 70 million years or so.
Deinonychusly yours,
DP111,
Could you explain this "theory" of yours in more detail.
Furthermore, what kind of drugs are you smoking?
So here we go again with the Girly-men Muslims using Islamic paranoia to justify slaughtering Christians because they might
be a threat in the future.
During the peak of the Femi-nazi's anti-male bashing decade of the 80's,I came across a news report buried in the back of a local Paper,the report studied spousal abuse and police reports of forced arrests of alledged male partner
assaults. Well guess what,almost 70% of the documented claims by female spouses, admitted they missled the Police on their unprovoked assault claim.
Paranoia seemed to control most survival modes
to justify physical attacks on men since they believed he was going to assault them sometime in the future.
Sound familiar,Islamic leaders will endorse arresting or banning Christians from practising
there faith because they might attack Muslims sometime in the future.Are these the same people condemning "Profiling" because it goes against Islamic values of justice.
Ya,right,slaughtering Christians today is a backlash from the crusdaes,killing them tomorrow
is to prevent future crusades.Sounds to me like Islam is the common denominator in most of this
Murdering for Allah,in fact I found a statement from MuhamMAD that Blacks were enslaved but "Whites" and Islam freed the slaves to live
under Islamic rules for slavery which protected
their right to justice and fair treatment.
The rise in migration of Muslims to NorthAmerica
is now looking like a finacially supported long
term plan by Islamic States to build up a Mujahadin force that will be ready to slaughter the oppresive infidels in the USA and Canada.
We're being profiled as future "Crusaders" of a war on Islam,so they better kill us now to stop future violence that would offend the peaceful teachings of Islam and MuhamMAD.
Speaking about China, do you want if the sell to weapons to The taliban regime was true? and the second question, someone knows if the conflict in China in the turkish and muslim region continue, because I heard that there was several terrorist acts?, greetings
>>"We cannot stand before a compassionate God while there is so much we have left undone because we are disunited," he said, wiping away tears as his voice began to crack. The worst evil anyone can do to themselves is to make their neighbours fear them, for this barrier excludes them from having a relationship which can be built upon, how can they ever gain the trust of their neighbours and how can they dialog with them, was this the intention of Osama B Laden in the first place ?
"We cannot stand before a compassionate God while there is so much we have left undone because we are disunited," he said, wiping away tears as his voice began to crack.
The God of the Muslims is not the same God as the Father Of Our Lord Jesus Christ, nor can he be the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, because Islam counts those outside of Islam as the enemies of God, that means the Muslim God is LIMITED.
The worst evil anyone can do to themselves is to make their neighbours fear them, for this barrier excludes them from having a relationship which can be built upon, how can they ever gain the trust of their neighbours and how can they dialog with them, was this the intention of Osama B Laden in the first place ?
Second post replaces partial first post
The religion of Christianity is not a war with the religion of Islam. The civilization of Christendom however, is at war with the ideology of Islam, just as it has been for 14 centuries. George Bush will been seen as just another in the long line of Christendom leaders like Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski who have for centuries flushed the "divine" plans of jihadists down the toilet of failed ideologies. This is not the first generation to be faced with the scourge of jihad and it will not be the last to once again shake the handle.
This is just another part of the Islamic/middle eastern psychological fantasy...and more evidence to show that they have a mental disease...
We don't have to get along with Muslims....
Muslims are going to have to learn to get along with us. That, or continue wasting away as they are now.
I refuse to change the way I conduct my life for anyone with that narrow a vision, and that petite an intellect.
If any Muslim would like to try to cut through this 22 inch neck, they should let me know..
It is not Christianity that will wage the war that is coming, but newest, shiniest and most powerful religion in the world, the creed of Freedom. .....
....Muslims have no idea who and what they are messing with....
Posted by: DP111 at August 4, 2004 05:54 PM
DP111,
muslims are somewhat like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.
They all pushed a doctrine which called for death.
Christianity does not do that.
Only uninformed, uneducated people would say Christianity is in any remote way... evil.
Mullah Boobie,
"Christianity does not do that.
Only uninformed, uneducated people would say Christianity is in any remote way... evil."
Or someone who has suffered brain damage from smoking to much dope...
"In the eyes of many Muslims, events in the last three years seem to lend credence to the view that the Christian West is, once again, at war with the Muslim world,"
In the eyes of muslims everything carries some kind of religious BS or another. The fact that we are hammering the seven circles of hell out of them could be due to the fact that they consistantly bomb and plot to bomb (and take over) "the christian west".
By the way I live in the "christian west" but am an atheist, because we are given that choice , unlike those idiots who would call me "pagan" or some shit like that.
Personally I think all religion is stupid, especially in the face of modern science.
Son of Infidel;
Thanks for that link.
Just to clarify, contrary to 'Afrafastes' incorrect observation I did realise you weren't tarring the whole of the 1 billion+ Chinese population with the same brush. '*nod*'
I recently went to a conference were one of the Chinese Christian leaders was speaking, He said that the actual number of missionaries they're sending out in to the Muslim nations is more in the region of 250,000.
He also said they are expecting 75% of those to be martyred.
(That would be martyred in the true sense of the word - "Dying for refusing to deny ones faith," as opposed to the Muslim understanding of that word - "Commiting suicide and murdering as many other people as possible in the process.)
Regards,