Score one for Al-Arian and Palestinian Islamic Jihad

Everyone appears to be hopping on the anti-terror bandwagon......except the Judges.

well remember, Clinton appointed a Lot of judges all over the country. Could this be one of his appointments?

I know that I shouldn't be surprised since it was the lawyers & judges who gave the whole PC movement, that has gotten us into this mess, it's teeth (and voracious monetary appetite!) in the first place..........but c'mon now! Take the shackles off so that we can FIGHT & WIN this war, both inside & outside of the country. This judge & all others like him that continually provide the terrorists with cover & protection while innocent people continue to die needlessly should be removed from the bench immediately & disbarred for life.

The nexus between money and violence is not always direct or immediate. So what? Saudi Arabia has spent over $70 billion on mosques and madrasas, everywhere in the world. These mosques make it easier for Muslims within the Dar al-Harb to practice Islam, and to keep fervent and vivid their hatred of the Infidel, inculcated at the khutbas (or sermons) at Friday Prayers. At some point, and no one knows at what point, those deeply-seated beliefs, while they may seem to be under control, or even suppressed, can come to the surface.

As for the madrasas, such as those funded in Pakistan, their sole function is to turn out, or churn out, tens of thousands of people who, while they have memorized a good many of the 6,200 odd verses of the Qur'an, and not a few hadith, have no skills, and are fit only for the Jihad.

Unless this is understood, and by people more intelligent than the judge in this case -- one suspects that prosecutorial briefs will have to include a short course -- akin to the Calcutta Qur'an case -- in the real tenets of AIslam, as they pertain to Infidels. Judges who think that unless there is direct evidence of the threat of imminent violence -- the Brandenberg test for determining when the government has a right to limit freedom of expression -- there is nothing to be done, are simply not considering the effect, at times slow but steady, in the constant dinning of Islamic tenets into the heads of people.

In the case of Sami al-Arian, of course, the evidence against him is so overwhelming, that if the judge in this case proves to be irremediably stupid, and unaware of reality (and when it comes to Islam why should we assume that a judge will be different from most of our journalists, or most innocent men on the street?), and the obvious connecton between supplying money, and the support of terrorist acts, then there will have to be an appeal, all the way up until, one is convinced, a court will exhibit common sense -- clearly, an oxymoronic phrase, because it is turning out to be not common at all.

If Clinton appointed these Judges, then Bush should unappoint them. They're in the way of Justice, as they lobby from their thrones.

They can be ousted just like anyone else that holds public office. As far as the Saudi bitches spending 70 billion dollars to build their whorehouses and racist assembly halls, a few demolition companies with big, solid, American-made wrecking balls would be appropriate.

Nothing would make me more proud than watching them slam into the walls of these urine infested hellholes, flattening them to the ground.

The Mafia and drug dealers often provide services for the community which is labeled "charity work." This does not make their criminal organizations any more acceptable.

Jihadists' organizations can't be exonerated and freed from the responsibility of and repercussions for their criminal actions because they have also done some charity work.

Ot, but I find this interesting. Kerry finds what Bush did for several minutes after learning about the WTC, disturbing. Shall we hear Kerry's reaction in his own words?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml

Kerry, shut the hell up about Bush's delay in leaving that school.

As usual, I agree with Hugh on the Brandenburg test. That road's a dead end. There is however, reason to be optimistic about the legal fog that currently engulfs the domain of Article III, Sect. 3 of the U. S. Constitution (Treason) and the codified statutes under 18 U.S.C. It is probable that this domain will open up soon as the cases that have resulted from enforcement actions associated with the Patriot Act begin to progress into more mature phases.

The law in the United States progresses at a frustratingly slow pace for most of us, but when it does, it is instructive to be ever mindful of the stupendous inertia that is associated with that progression. It is the mechanism of public choice and when the choice is truly made to crush the enemies arrayed against this nation, I have no doubt that the law will allow an appropriate execution of that choice. It is apropos perhaps to remind ourselves that on this day in 1945, August 6, the public choice of the American people to reveal the Face of Shiva to the denizens of Hiroshima was indeed executed. On that day it was perfectly legal for the President of the United States to wage nuclear war. That is the power of the law in this country.

Here is a partial list of some of the Islamic terrorist groups listed by the state department that can be found all over the world and in many sovereign countries trying to force their lesser jihad fantasies on them with terrorism .

1. ABU NIDAL ORGANIZATION (ANO)

2. ABU SAYYAF GROUP (ASG)

3. ARMED ISLAMIC GROUP (GIA)

4. AL-GAMA`A AL-ISLAMIYYA (ISLAMIC GROUP,IG)

5. hAMAS (ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT)

6. HARAKAT UL-MUJAHIDIN (HUM)

7. HIZBALLAH (PARTY OF GOD)

8. ISLAMIC MOVEMENT OF UZBEKISTAN (IMU)

9. AL JIHAD OR AKA EGYPTIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD,JIHAD GROUP,ISLAMIC JIHAD

10.MUJAHEDIN-E KHALQ ORGANIZATION (MEK OR MKO

11. THE PALESTINE ISLAMIC JIHAD (PIJ)

12.PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT (PLF)

13. POPULAR FRONT FOR THE LIBERATION OF PALESTINE (PFLP)

14. POPULAR FRONT FOR THE LIBERATION OF PALESTINE-ENERAL COMMAND (PLFP-GC)

15. AL-QAIDA

16. JAISH-E-MOHAMMED (JEM) (ARMY OF MOHAMMED)

17. LASHKAR-E-TAYYIBA(LT) (ARMY OF THE RIGHTEOUS)

18. MUSLIMS AGAINST GLOBAL OPPRESSION (MAGO)

So who out there believes that the world is not at war with Islam ?

On the afternoon of September 11, 2001 President Bush flew to Offutt AFB, NB and sat for several hours in this room. Would Kerry have the courage to do that?

Browse through the rest of that website and meditate on its purpose and meditate on the fact that for the first and only time in history, the President of the United States was physically present in that room during an actual national emergency.

Yamamoto's mythical giant is not yet fully awake. As more Americans come to understand the true meaning of the presence of the president in that room on that terrible day, the more awake they become and the more will they resolve to stand as a nation to meet the challenge of the global jihad and the choice of the utter destruction of its suicidal perpetrators will be theirs to make. Only the United States has actually used nuclear weapons in war. It is always willing to do so again if that is the choice left to it by its enemies. I have no do doubt that if necessary, the entire Hijaz, Iran, Syria, Pakistan, and other vast regions would be transformed into a sea of glass. How monumentally tragic it is that our enemies interpret this vision as empty hyperbole. The enemies of the United States can dismiss as myth the horrors of the European Holocaust if they will but they are unambiguously warned to gaze into the tombs of the hundreds of thousands of burnt corpses of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and ignore that lesson of history at their true peril.

This ain't no movie folks. This is real. I see in this rise of the violent provocateurs of the Islamic ideology in our generation, the stuff of once in a millenium conflagration and as in clashes with them over the past 14 centuries, they will again be crushed.

There's the on-topic GOPers, who come here to shill and bray for the RNC: "Blame Clinton, blame Clinton, frame Kerry!"

I'd like to see at least one Bush supporter answer one question, right now.

Which would show that Bush is a great leader, that the terrorist attack us again in America, or that they don't attack us again? Please answer now, because you can't have it both ways with me.

Some of you are claiming that Bush is doing such a great job fighting terror that the terror networks are in shambles, their leaders on the run, dead, or behind bars. So we shouldn't have to worry about another terror attack, should we?

But wait, some other GOPers are claiming that a terror attack on America is pratically guaranteed, and that such an attack would "prove" that Al-qaeda favors Kerry. (As if this would prove that Kerry favors Al-qaeda. Did the Nazis want Eisenhower elected? After all, it was Roosevelt and Truman that smashed them.)

Of course, if Kerry wins and there isn't a terror attack, you will swear to God that its because Dub invaded Iraq, and if there is an attack, you will claim its Kerry's fault (the exact opposite of what you said after 911.)

Just like the economy... if Kerry wins and the economy falters, will you say that every president's economy is the result of his predecessor (like you did with Clinton and Bush)? Somehow I doubt it, because I've seen this before with the military Clinton used to get Milosevic credited to Bush and Ray-gun, and the military Dub used to glass the Taliban and invade Iraq credited to ... Bush of course.

Its kind of strange, but I am beginning to think that some people here really don't care that much about discussing the jihad, but do so merely as an afterthought to bashing lib'ruls...

Flip-flop, change your story, ad lib, fly on the seat of your pants... do whatever you have to do, jump to any ridiculous conclusion, employee the craziest non sequitors. Just do whatever you have to do to play the Monica for Bush; nothing is more important than that. Even though Bush plays Monica for the House of Saud.

Now don't answer with rational responses. Just fire back with the same, tired litany of ad hominem b.s. that you always do: I hate America, I hate liberty and freedom, I am just here to bash Bush, I am a communist, I am a Muslim (oh yeah, I looove that one!)

You may say that I cut and paste all my posts from the sayings of Kerry, Mike Moore, Al Franken, the Dixie Chicks, Bon Jovi, Willie Nelson, and others who (what else?) hate America, hate liberty and freedom, just want to bash Bush, are communists, are Muslims. (Update: add Bruce Springsteen to that list.)

And for the really mature among you, you can claim that I am a homosexual lover of Kerry or Mike Moore. (Some of you that "think about this a lot" -- strictly for debate purposes only, of course -- may envision a 3-way.) This approach is more effective if you can be as descriptive as possible. Use all those filthy sexual words you learned back in 8th grade, like "spooge" and "turd burglar" (ha-ha... you're already laughing, aren't you?) and don't worry: you're post is in no danger of being deleted.

Now, just so you can't claim that you've "forgotten" I'm going to repeat what I said at the beginning of this letter:

I'd like to see at least one Bush supporter answer one question, right now.

Which would show that Bush is a great leader, that the terrorist attack us again in America, or that they don't attack us again? Please answer now, because you can't have it both ways with me.

By the way, this is an old comment, so I am going to cut and paste this into a new comment. Respond to that one. If you dare.

Kj;

With all do respect,I for the life of me can`t make any sence out of the questions or comments in your rant along with some historically misinformation. Sorry!

I'm having trouble making sense of that question also.

For one thing, I have Yet to find a thread where someone called you a communist. Show it to me.

I have also never seen anyone call you a 'homosexual lover of MM,' can you show me a link to that? If they did, they were wrong to do so. If no one has, you LIED.

Frame Kerry for What? I have not seen one thing where they are trying to frame him. I have not even Seen the word 'frame' being used by anyone but you.

For another, After 2 years of research, the economists pushed back the date of the recession's beginning, to fall of the the election year- before Bush took office. Also, how does ones policies cause a recession Months before those policies go into effect?

'Which would show that Bush is a great leader, that the terrorist attack us again in America, or that they don't attack us again?'

If they manage to attack again, it will be because some of them slipped under the radar. Whether or not that has anything to do with the Wall Jamie Gorelich built between intelligence agencies (or, I should say, not built, but expanded beyond all reasonable hope of proper usage) will be a matter to be decided by (probably) another commission.

We are noticing, from the new articles being posted, that suddenly a Lot is happening in the way of interdiction. Can anyone tell me if this is Because the intelligence agencies got an overhaul, or because the jihadists are starting to make too many mistakes?

If they don't attack again, it will be either because they are being interdicted, are losing resources, where just trying to scare us, or all three. If it is the first two, then our intelligence agencies are being moved back in the right direction. That doesn't neccesarily make President Bush a great man. Just the guy who happend to be in charge.

Does this help, KJ?

Oh btw. Why is Kerry so hyper about 7 minutes, while he sat there stunned and 'not thinking' (In his OWN words to Larry King) for 40 minutes?

He could have made a Lot of phone calls in 40 minutes, brought a lot of people in to help. That could have been pointed to with quite a bit of pride.

7 minutes. What could have been done in 7 minutes? How long does it take to prep AF1? Not long, I imagine it is Always ready. But then again, how long would it have taken to Get him to the plane? Is 7 minutes enough to throw of some other terrorists' timing? Is 7 minutes enough time for all the various agencies to have gotten up to date on the situation and filled him in?

Oh yes, while we're at it. I never got a response from you on ANWAR. Your words at the time: '3 month supply.'

Hmmm. Even at the Minimum amount of oil ANWAR holds, that is Wrong.

If we could pump the oil to satisfy ALL of the US daily needs, the supply would last 9 months.

But we can't. The best they can do (estimated) is 1.2 million barrels per day- 6% of daily US needs. This makes the supply last 10.7 years.

Where did you get '3 months,' and what is the total oil supply estimate that supposedly accounts for that.

Oh yes. 4.7 billion is the Low-end estimate for ANWAR. Something over 7 Billion is the upper limit (been a month since I looked that up, so I don't recall the upper number correctly).

I await your response.

*reads KJs comments again* what a Pack of Lies. Show us One thread, anywhere on JW or DW, where ANY of those things have been claimed about you.

Scum like you make me sick. No wonder Jihad is winning with your side.

Ky-jelly,

I am sorry I missed your imbecilic ranting.

"Now don't answer with rational responses. Just fire back with the same, tired litany of ad hominem b.s. that you always do: I hate America, I hate liberty and freedom, I am just here to bash Bush, I am a communist, I am a Muslim (oh yeah, I looove that one!)"

PS: you forgot the butt-pumping, fudge-packing dope smoking-sodomite.

Did the Nazis want Eisenhower elected? After all, it was Roosevelt and Truman that smashed them.

Posted by KJ August 08,2004 9:21 am.

General Dwight D. Eisenhower was the Supreme Allied Commander against the Nazis` in World War II. The Nazis` where defeated in 1945 when Franklin Delano Roosevelt was President.

Therefore when Dwight D.Eisenhower ran for the Presidency in 1951 for the first time, the Nazis` had no say or opinion because they did not exist anymore. Does that help you a little KJ ?????.

You know, Mackie, you got me to thinking.

The Nazis are gone, yes. But there are neo-nazis out there.

And I am wondering, who coined the term: Neo-con?

Is that a subtle attempt to link the two? Hmmmm....

KJ,
What makes you think we are all clones who have the exact same opinions and beliefs just because we are anti-jihad. Some of us hate muslims, some of us hate politicians, some don't hate anyone they just want to rescue muslims from their death cult, some believe genocide and nuking is the answer, some believe a much tougher military response is required. Allsorts of different people, from different cultures and backgrounds come here, all with totally different worldviews, but most of us agree on one thing , islam is a disease that is a danger to us all, and action needs to be taken against it to keep us all safe, and before this planet can be peaceful, or the rest of time will be ruled with violence and terrorism. The reason we are so against you and your opinions is because you conflict directly with what we know to be true, and represent the people of our societies that will eventually , if you are allowed, and unintentionally cause it's downfall, all for your idiotic need for all cultures to be treated equally (even if one of those cultures threatens the way of life we know and love).
Just for the record I am british, I hate all polticians , they are , to me a bunch of self-serving ignoramus' and care little for the people at the bottom end of society (apart from foreigners). I also can't stand Dubya as I have often revealed, but I'd be quick to admit that ,even so, his administration is the first who seem to be finally doing something to combat terror and in that respect,is doing something about the threat of islam, and in that regard I'm behind the Republicans 100% (which is more than I can say for John Kerry who seems to be looking to impress the liberals and foreigners among the US public without 1 iota of care for national security, and danger to the US means danger to the UK whose government tends to quickly follow suit).

Rikki, good points all around and I'd like to hear from others if at all possible.

Am I Republican? Yes, even tho I voted for Clinton the 1st time (but *not* the 2nd).

Here's what I have supported as a Republican:

Was on the Powwow circuit for 9 years with a branch of the Delaware Indians in Pennsylvania.

Member of the SPLC.

I have two friends in England who are gay (good artists, too). Seems like all my friends online are in areas under islamic attack- Australia, Malaysia, England, US, Canada.

I am an environmentalist (in the Original sense of the word, a la Governor Pinchot and others).

I have worked at a wildlife rehab center:
www.riverotters.org (com? It has been a while, try both).

I hate politics also, and disagree with some of what Bush has said and done.

This is just a partial list. Who's next?

Arrgh! never mind the website. I thought it had been renewed until 2005 but it seems to be gone. *sighs*

try this instead:

http://www.deviantart.com/view/7534045/

Gary,
Some great artwork on there!!! There was a good link too to a techno and trance site , where I have discovered 2 very rare trance/violin/opera crossover CDs I've bben after for ages, so thanks a million for that buddy.

Some of you are claiming that Bush is doing such a great job fighting terror that the terror networks are in shambles, their leaders on the run, dead, or behind bars. So we shouldn't have to worry about another terror attack, should we?

Even by your standards Keithjoy this is a dumb thing to say. Even if our forces rounded up every last member of both Al qaeda and Hamas, there'd still be a terrorist threat. Ever heard the phrase "splinter-groups"? And besides there are far more islamic groups than al qaeda who want to see the west become an islamic waste-land.

Of course, if Kerry wins and there isn't a terror attack, you will swear to God that its because Dub invaded Iraq, and if there is an attack, you will claim its Kerry's fault (the exact opposite of what you said after 911.)

Look, you could sit here and do that all day, claim that everything that goes wrong is the fault of the party you despise and vice versa. You do it the Right6 wingers do it, evey one does it.

And for the really mature among you, you can claim that I am a homosexual lover of Kerry or Mike Moore. (Some of you that "think about this a lot" -- strictly for debate purposes only, of course -- may envision a 3-way.) This approach is more effective if you can be as descriptive as possible. Use all those filthy sexual words you learned back in 8th grade, like "spooge" and "turd burglar" (ha-ha... you're already laughing, aren't you?) and don't worry: you're post is in no danger of being deleted.

Okay hows this for a new-one then Keith Joy:

You and you leftist bum-chums are nothing more than the pus-filled acne and pimples on the face and ass of society.

'Respond to that one. If you dare.'

We DID, KeithJoy. And you've Yet to say anything in response. Or were our reasoned, rational responses too much for you?

If you show up in another thread and say you never got a response from us, you will be lying.

Again.