Toronto university probes threats against Muslims

Ten to one this turns out to be hoax, written by Muslims themselves. As Ali Dashti, who kindly sent me this link, asks: "Since when did Jews call Muslims 'infidels'? Sounds pretty fake." Indeed. From the Toronto Globe and Mail:

Flyers threatening Muslim students with violence and death have been discovered at Ryerson University, forcing the campus to investigate its second hate crime of the summer.

''The Islamic infidels have no belonging in Toronto and in the world at all ... we ask that whenever you spot a Muslim ... that you beat them and cause harm to them. Kill these Islamic infidels,'' reads one of the notices in broken English and signed by a group calling itself the Full Blooded Israeli Brigades.

The flyers -- typed on letter-size paper -- were found on bulletin boards at four prominent campus locations last Thursday, said Bruce Piercey, Ryerson's manager of public affairs.

"We've never seen anything like it before [on a Canadian campus]," said Detective James Hogan of the Toronto Police Hate Crimes Unit.

Another notice claimed responsibility for a June incident in which the words "Die Muslim Die" and the Star of David were found scrawled on the walls of Ryerson's multi-faith prayer room: "We would like to claim responsibility for the anti-Muslim graffiti that we put in the multifaith room on June 23, 2004. While this may be considered a hate crime or a despicable act, it is not. We are just getting back at the Muslim faggot that vandalized Jewish property and wrote anti-Semitic graffiti. We assure the Muslim students at Ryerson university that we will continue to send messages and that this incident is only the first of many. We want to let them know that no Muslim student will be safe and that security isn't going to stop us."

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Whatever, I know where that probe can be placed.

This is obviously a hoax by Muslims to get sympathy. The writer of the "threats" speaks English as a second language and no one calls Muslims "infidels".This reminds me of when Middle Easterners come here and to other forums pretending to be Americans.

No Christian or Jew would use the term "infidels" to describe anyone. This is obviously a scam perpetrated by Muslims to gain sympathy.

There item was also mentioned in a new weblog, http://canadajihadbulletin.blogspot.com/

It seems this hoax "hate letter" has been noticed more many people already.

''The Islamic infidels have no belonging in Toronto and in the world at all ... we ask that whenever you spot a Muslim ... that you beat them and cause harm to them. Kill these Islamic infidels,'' reads one of the notices in broken English and ..................

Huh. Even though this is an obvious muslim hoax, they have actually, for the very first time, written words of wisdom!!!!!
Hah! They would f@#ck up a wet dream!!!


I live in Toronto and this cheap ploy to gain sympathy is right out of the CAIR Canada "Hate-crime" publication on their website www.caircan.ca
that coaches Muslims on how to volunteer to be a victim.

The language in the letter is pretty shody,every case like this never seems to net an arrest or witness. There have been several antisemitic acts
of vandalism and even a fire-bombing of a Jewish school in Montreal. Most investigation lead to arrests and the arson case at the school was by
a middle east immigrant female who used her son to help fire-bomb the Jewish school.
The level of ignorance in the claims by Muslim students has the Islamic flare to it,only the Quran could fill some one with so much hate and twisted logic to scare people with threats of future hate-crimes.
There was a fire at a Mosque in March of this year,this was after the Jewish school fire,the
ploy to draw attention from the Muslim "Victim envy" paranoia didn't make sense.
First the fire happened at 3:00am and the Mosque custodian call 911 and just happened to be awake at the time,then there was the fact that it was a one-storey commercial unit with no overt trimmings of what it was. The next oddity was the message on a wall "Jesus rules" that somehow got
to paint without the custodian hearing the
break-in . Then there was the fact that the building was in a sparsely populated area and locals didn't remember any cars driving by because it was a two lane road with no other way to access the Mosque.
The last clue for me was that the Woman's enterance was burned and not the Mens, misogenistic arson if you ask me.
The Jesus rules tag was odd,I first thought of the spanish name HEY-Suse,it could have been a hispanic gang marking their turff.

Since the Muslims leaders like Mr.Hooper from CAIR love to jump on the soapbox and plead for calm until the proof of guilt is exposed,it's odd how Muslims instantly know that Christians or Jews are behind all the attack on Islam.

BTW,a newspaper printed a comment by a Muslim cleric that the Mosque attack was obviously by
Christian extremists and Islamophobes.
How tipical,all Muslims are innocent because the Quran forbids bad behaviour,so it must be those godless infidel pig Christians and Jews.
The noose it tightening and the Imam's are
parroting the usual tripe that we are all finding to be wearing pretty thin.


ALA SUX

It's either a sympathy ploy or an attempt to incite anti-Semitic violence. The Jews call members of other faiths GENTILES, not infidels.

In the event this does turn out to be a hoax, which it most likely will, Muslim students that did the complaining should be expelled from school, taked to the airport, and sent out of the country forever.

Let me take a virtual blue pencil to this bit of witty verbiage.

''The Infidels have no belonging in Toronto and in the world at all ... we ask that whenever you spot an Infidel ... that you beat them and cause harm to them. Kill these Infidels,'' reads one of the notices in broken English and signed by a group calling itself the Full Blooded Al Aqsa Brigades.

This is just another element in their plan to disrupt our civil societies. They will attempt to turn us against each other. While the school scurries to find the perpetrators of this supposedly vile hate crime, the Muslim authors will be out trying to buy fertilizer or Cordite in order to kill more innocents.

We all recognize the message and the style. Unfortunately there are so many in the world who do not.

What i find vile is that while the Jewish community is getting terrorised, some are even jelaous of the sympathy they may be getting. God forbid the Jews get some symphaty, they want that too. Poelpe who did this remind me of those who say, that arabs can't be anti-Semitic because they are Semite people as well. It is the same, while they are vehemently anti-Semitic, they are jelaous of the sympahy the Jews might get, and they want it too, hence they say, that they are Semites too. This is just sad.

Fumbling morons: "Kill these Islamic infidels!"
Don't mind if I do...

your comments make me so angry, how can you have the sit there and say its a hoax it hasnt been proven so why make stupid assumptions.why do they want your sympathy?and as for words of wisdom you must lead a very sad life and very ignorant, and talking of sending them out of the country just plane damn stupid.

You people seem to have failed to understand the issue here, the answer isnt sending them away or anything stupid like that. why not take the time to find out who carried out this crime and yes i agree they should be punished, but why talk of ALL muslims doing this and that, they may be of the same religion/race but havent you ever heard that not everyones the same. thats like saying ALL jews are ********! just because one carrys out a crime when they are not all the same. if a white man carrys out a crime, why punish the other white man down the road.hows it his fault? we all need to take a hard look around us and think whats actually going on because thats obviously not being done. theres to much hatered between different races+religions around the world.whats going on???

This is clearly a hoax - look at the language. It's extremely reminiscent of the integral cultural perspectives of citizens (and ex-citizens) of islamic countries:

"Full Blooded Israeli Brigades"?? Good God. Since when have Jews (or Israelis for that matter) ever defined themselves by the percentage of "Jewish blood" they have? What whack jobs, even, would use this as a talking point, other than those who already have a centrally racial perspective on Jewish people? This would suggest to me quite strongly that it's an islamofacist hoax.

"Infidels"?? OK, this clinches it. Islamofacists, by their own culture, don't really understand that no one else really calls muslims "infidels". They're not able to draw the connection that NO ONE other than themselves would use this as an insult. This has every single scent of a pathetic attempt to draw sympathy to their religion and away from recent anti-Semitic incidents at Concordia, Ryerson and York. Not to mention the homophobia thrown in for good measure - an attempt to turn public opinion against Jewish students. It makes absolutely no sense otherwise. Why would even very radical Jewish students attack muslims and THEN attempt to antagonise another minority group on campus?

Threats against Muslims by Jews? In Canada? Sure sure. I've never heard of a Jewish person beating up a Muslim one ANYWHERE in Canada, let alone the United States. This is abberant nonsense. I'm quite certain that Detective Hogan has indeed never heard of it on a university campus before - unless, of course, it be from islamofacist students.

What do I mean by this? Well, check out this website at the Canadian Jewish Congress:

http://www.middleeastfacts.com/university.htm

It's getting to the point now where anti-Jewish racism on campus is so well known that the CJC is COLLECTING STATISTICS ON IT. Look at some of the choices too for incident reporting, which should be indicative of where the problems lie:

U of T
York
Ryerson
U de M
Concordia
McGill
UBC
SFU
and U Man for crying out loud!

Well well - one might opine as to whether each of these institutions has a large and vibrant muslim student community. Not that that should be the problem, of course - after all, other than Sura 9 and about 30% of the hadiths, Islam teaches peace. We're all told so over and over, so it simply MUST be true.

Let's all keep in mind the nature of Ryerson University recently - it's a well recognized hotbed of antisemitism, a true embarassment to Canadian universities. (For Ryerson students out there reading this that don't like it - tough. It's a fact. Live with it or fix it.)

http://www.sac.ryerson.ca/involved/campaigns/noracism/

Interestingly, I notice this on the Ryerson Muslim Students' Association (RMSA) website:

"** Candlelight Walk Against
Anti-Semitism & Racism**

In light of the recent anti-Jewish hate crimes in North Toronto, and growing anti-Jewish racism across Canada, our community responds with a visible candlelight walk along Bathurst Street, united in our call for an end to hate and racism. While the notice only addresses anti-Jewish hate crimes, the march will certainly discuss and oppose the attacks on Muslim and Hindu worship spaces." Dated 2004/3/30. Now, I note this "incident" occurred after 3/30. One could suppose it's mere coincidence, but I smell a rat.
Deflect sympathy for Jewish students, collect it for yourself.

Here's some links to other comments of theirs:
http://www.ryerson-msa.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66

Here's another one on how "hypocrites" try to associate with "believers" (i.e. muslims) so as to gain advantage over them, also from the Ryerson MSA site, and which I would say makes bigoted assumptions about non-Muslims:
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/hypocrite/hypocrite1.php

Here's a link to a site that degrades Hindu and Buddist religions which I also found on the Ryerson MSA site:
http://www.islamandkarma.com/
(Please note: there's another link on the "karma" site above to a site called "darwinism-watch.com"; does the RMSA also refute evolution?)

And they have a link to the well-known "islamqa.com", which has itself some fun answers on Islam and the Sword (see Answer 5441, other fun ones are 2936, 14312, 21058, 20824 and of course the old favourite #20327...actually virtually anything in the "Punishment and Judicial Sentences" section is horrifyingly islamofacist).
Apparently the RMSA is on board with all this. It's O-K! Don't read the hardline stuff, ya big silly. You KNOW it's only written when the imam is cranky! Oh that wacky "reliable scholar who uses authentic knowledge" (RMSA site)!
(http://www.ryerson-msa.com/modules/mylinks/)

They also have an Al-Jazeera link! Yay! Now Ryerson students can learn more about the only station in Canada to call for the extermination of the Jews. And the Christians, I think, too. And maybe the Hindus? Ahmad, did we do that 'expose' of the evils of Buddism this week? Moh wants it WHEN? No no, time it to coincide with their holy festival, draw some attention off them, insh'Allah.

Finally, they have (curiously) links to the muslim student's associations at several of the problem universities I mentioned above. I'm sure it's mere coincidence, however.

Well! Islam in the university news. Who'd have thought it would be so similar to islam in the regular news. I don't dislike muslims. It's their faith that makes me uncomfortable.

Geoff

Allah and Mohammed are Bullshit

This guy Mohammed, a clever lowlife of his village, goes out into the desert and returns to the village. He tells a few of the poor uneducated villagers that he has gotten the word of god from an angel, and they believe him. He thinks to himself this could turn out to be a real good thing. His status just skyrockets, he suddenly becomes the leader. He continues with his gradually more grandiose tales. Allah is the name of a god represented by a large black meteorite, which is worshipped by the local pagan Arabs. Mohammed decides to use this as the representation of his new god.

Allah asks him and his followers to do some pretty wild and nasty things, like raid other camps and rape, pillage and behead people. Mohammed ends up with the biggest share of the loot and the best looking women. He shows no hesitation in carrying out the most ruthless acts, because even he begins to believe his own stories of Allah’s will. People really like to follow someone who is sure what he is doing is right.

Mohammed seems to have heard voices which talked to him, many people who show these symptoms have psychiatric problems, in other words are crazy. I think he was a sex-addict; he had many wives including very young girls. Many young men of that time period had sex with the animals they tended. Sheep are known to be the source of Syphilis, which over a long period of time will cause madness as the bacterium begins to eat away at the brain.

Mohammed had this weird idea to mix sex with death, and his followers today echo this thinking. Everyone has heard of the 72 virgins that are waiting the shahid. A reporter was interviewing a mother of a Palestinian suicide bomber. She said that her son would brandish his weapon and tell me: 'Mom, this is my bride.' He loved his gun so much." A fifteen year old boy mixes up his love of a weapon for his desire for a female. This in a society which is extremely sexually repressive, is like pouring gasoline on a fire, it will practically explode. John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer well known serial killers in America mixed up sex and death, so it is not unique to Islam, but Islam

takes full advantage of this crossover.

Ooops missed the last line.

To answer the poster "unique", who asked what is going on.....What's going on is that Muslims are commanded by their unholy book and drunken rapist false prophet to take over the world. To make war with all of those who are non-Islamic, and to make war until they embrace Islam.

They are permitted to bribe and to lie in order to succeed. So be angry with our comments if you wish, but please, wake up.

You can see a lot of evidence that this cult was created by a madman and is consumed with bizarre sexual practices.

On the one hand, on earth, you must not see the shape of a woman. However in heaven you are rewarded with as much sex as you like with 72 virgins. Surely heaven is a more holy place than earth?? But in islam heaven is a place of debauchery while earth is a place for piety. In fact the whole idea is that if you live religiously on earth, you can live just the opposite in heaven as a reward. Does this make sense??

Then you are allowed to rape women, and have sex with children and babies, but you cannot see a woman without her being fully covered.

These things could only have been dreamed up by a crazy person...

I just wanted to add this. If Charlie Manson and his followers were muslims, and they wrote "allah akbar" instead of "helter skelter" on the walls with their victims blood, and the murders had occured in Iran and not the USA, not only would they be free, but they would be seen as heroes doing the work of mohammed by getting rid of the infidels.

It looks like hoax allright,eventhough i hope it is for real.
It is high time for the muslims to get a taste of their own medicine.

This incident was perpetrated by the Islamo-fascists themselves for the purpose of stirring up anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish hate.

The Canadians need to expell these Muslim bastards as do the rest of Western countries.

By the time the pc liberal idiots wake up to the true agenda of the Islamists, it will be to late.

Typo: as do the rest of "the" western countries.

Jews I have met have been well educated and clued up about world events. 'INFIDEL' used like this seems mighty suspicious. Anyway if I was wandering
lost in the Middle East, I'd rather put my trust in Israelis to help me than Muslims. How could you
trust believers of a DEATH CULT who vow to kill Infidels wherever they find them and want their disgusting and barbaric Saharia to dominate the World!

Unique wrote; "...and talking of sending them out of the country just plane damn stupid."

Good pun! Lol...ummm, you did intend that as humour, right?

"''The Islamic infidels have no belonging in Toronto and in the world at all ... we ask that whenever you spot a Muslim ... that you beat them and cause harm to them. Kill these Islamic infidels,'' reads one of the notices in broken English and signed by a group calling itself the Full Blooded Israeli Brigades."

I'd like to point out the obvious here. The messages were written in broken English. No self-respecting Jew would ever write something in "broken English." They wouldn't want to be shamed by showing such a lack of erudition. ;-) (OK, all kidding aside)

Of course it is a hoax. As others so smartly said, Jews don't call people "infidels;" nor do they refer to themselves as "Full Blooded." If I might ask, "What the Hell is that?" Is it some Nazi reference?? It seems like some of the Muslims are out to garner the Victim stance so they can obtain sympathy and redirect people from their own practices of attacking the Jews in the area. Jews are notorious for not supporting people who attempt such vandalism. The only two examples of such extremeism in the past 30 to 40 years was Baruch Goldstein's attack in the cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, some of the activities of the JDL - which has gone defunct now that the people in charge have either died or been arested (all two or three members), oh and Rabbi Kahane. (Ok, so that's 3.) It is hardly the number of rabblerousers who would perpetrate such an incident on the campus of Ryerson University.

I mean, Jews for millenia have been the targets of other groups hatred and persecution. They are not out to draw more persecution by being stupid enough to provoke others through doing such a thing. They would say, "We want to live, not die." And provoking others in this sort of hate crime would be doing that exactly.

I am worried-but for a different reason.
I am of the opinion that the Islamists are going to make an attempt on the Vatican very soon-cos only that would be `sufficiently` shocking.
They already realize that those `beheadings` are not `workin`. So they are going to do it in the Vatican. And that`s close to Greece too.
What`s happening is that orcs like CAIR etc. are trying to distance themselves from the `fallout` of such an attempt.

Another reason to suspect a hoax: the broken English itself. You'd be hard pressed to find a young Israeli who speaks or writes in broken English. And while there certainly are hotheads in the broader Jewish student community, they don't communicate in broken English either.

I have emailed CAIR-Canada about this. I doubt I will get an answer but I did make the point that 'infidel' is not a Jewish term. We shall see.

GARY

Your dead on,I have yet to get an answer or retraction in bigoted Anti-Chtistian accusation
about vandalism to Mosques.
Check out www.caircan.ca webpage and look at the claims of Islamophobia that have yet to yield any arrests by the Police. The Mosque fire in Pickering was in the media and a Muslim cleric stated to a reporter that is was obviously done by a Christian Extremist group since grafitti
was left that read "jesus rules" .

CAIR Canada supported a conference at Square 1
in July that had classes for Muslim youth's to know their responsibility to the Quran and Islam to work at making Canada an Islamic state through Jihad. The Globe had a story on suicide bombers that assume they are normal and peaceful Muslims
the crazy one.

Only a Muslim with knowledge of the Quran would know that moderate followers of Islam are sinners in Allahs eyes and therefore Muslim-infidels that deserve to be killed for Allah.
I read it on an Islamic site that said moderate Muslims in Canada aren't true Muslims and will be killed during the Jihad to make Canada a Muslim Coountry.These people aren't shy on their goals to
use Canada to attack the USA after they get Shariah Law enshrined in the Canadian courts.

CAIR canada hasn't sayd a word about Christian
being killed in Iraq by Islamist during a evening service,yet the main page show outrage for a Mosque in Hamilton being hit with an egg while to-date no arrests have been made but they know it was Islamophobe non-Muslims that did it because your guilty until proven innocent.

Here's a recent post by a Islamic site dealing with the Ryerson Islamophobia.

Check out the Tag-line at the bottom

Seems the University has had attacks on Jews but I've never seen any media coverage,proof the recent attack on Muslims is a hoax to divert attention from the slaughtering in Iraq by followers of Islam and the endless beheadings by
non-Muslims yelling Allah'a Akbar after the head is hacked off.


http://www.arab2000.net/wnewsDetails.asp?id=11096&cid=48