The courageous ex-Muslim Walid Shoebat has sent in this commentary on his recent encounter with the putative Muslim reformer Khaleel Mohammed. Walid is, of course, the former PLO member who is now a Christian. My own run-in with Mohammed is here.
Quotes by “peaceful” Muslim reformer Khaleel Mohammed:“Peace ceased when the crusades were launched, and which have not yet ended.”
Khaleel’s mission is simple: to punch America (the crusader) back for the war on Iraq. His other mission is to fight anyone who critques Islam:
“what is wrong with fighting against tyranny and oppression, whether it be intellectual or otherwise? Is this not what the US forces are supposedly in Iraq to do? What makes it right for these predominantly
"Christian" soldiers to do that and not for Muslims to have a similar philosophy?”For the full article, to see what caused Khaleel’s ‘Jihad’ against oppression, see:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14639Jihad, according to Khaleel, is not war:
“word for war, as Mr. Shoebat ought to know, is Harb, and NOT Jihad.”
His first 'Islamic reformation' speech stated that Jihad is “self-struggle.”
Khaleel knows Jihad very well, not the “self struggle” type:
"I see no reason for Muslims to apologize for Jihad"
To denounce that, will bring Khaleel under Jihad.
Khaleel will NEVER denounce Khaibar massacre of Jews. No apology for Muhammad killing the Jews of Arabia. Khaleel, the Apologist who was educated on Islam in Saudi Arabia, knows well his mission:
“I am a Muslim, and for me to remain quiet in the face of some of the statements made would be to forego my duty of fighting against oppression--especially when it is in the form of intellectual tyranny.”
Yet, Khaleel supports fighting for Islam in America; according to him it's ok to allow Muslim missionaries in America and stop westerners to bring their idiologies to any Muslim country:
“For any Muslim with a brain, the concept of God having a son is the most odious of heresies, and so, it would be retrogressive for Muslim theocracies to open their doors to Christian missionaries, and subject the masses to deviation from the true Abrahamic concept of monotheism (i.e. Judeo-Islamic)..”
According to Khaleel, the Quran supersedes the Judeo-Christian books:
“Qur'an, a document that came AFTER the Christian testament and therefore emended what needed to be emended.”
This is why, according to Khaleel:
“Why did Egypt, Persia etc become Muslim? The answer is simple; the intellectuality of Islam was way above and beyond what they had.”
In other words, Islam supersedes the religions of these countries, as well as what we have in the United States. It is no wonder why Khaleel religiously protects the Islamic world from western ideologies.
According to Khaleel, a major obstacle that stops the reformation of Islam is:
“the status forced on Muslims by non-Muslim powers so that Muslims, instead of trying to genuinely reform their religion, are instead forced to defend against horrendous lies.”
In other words, Khaleel must be busy fighting us, the 'Islamophobes,' instead.
Khaleel writes: "I see two of the most destructive forces on earth as Muslim and Christian missionaries"
The difference, Mr. Khaleel, is that Christian missionaries these days might give you a headache; Muslim missionaries in Muslim countries, however, might just whack your head right off.
Big difference. Don't you think?
Even “dhimmitude,” according to Khaleel, under which Jews and Christians suffered for centuries, is a creation by an Islamophobe. According to Khaleel, dhimmitude is:
“a term coined by one Islamophobe I know”
Dhimmitude is defined by Khaleel as:
"the status in which non-Muslims within an Islamic state must live.”
In summary, Khaleel is right: “Jihad” does mean “self-struggle”, but so does Mein Kampf.
Mr. Khaleel Mohammed is also right that like Mafiatude, Dhimmitude is a “payment for protection,” under which Christians and Jews "must" live.
So much for this great reformer.
Islam is a FAKE:
`GURU NANAK AT MECCA:
He disguised himself in the blue dress of a Mohammadan pilgrim, took a faqir's staff in his hand and a collection of his hymns called 'Pothi' under his arm. He also carried with him like a Muslim devotee, a cup for his ablutions and a rug whereon to pray. Like a pilgrim he went inside the great mosque where the pilgrims were engaged in their devotions. When he lay down to sleep at night, he turned his feet towards the Kaaba. A priest, Jiwan kicked him and said,"Who is this infidel sleeping with his feet towards the House of God?" The Guru replied,"Turn my feet in the direction in which God is not." Upon this Jiwan seized the Guru's feet and dragged them in the opposite direction. Whereupon, it is said, the Kaaba (temple) turned around, and followed the revolution of Guru's body.
GURU AT BAGDAD:
According to the Mohammadans there are seven skies above the earth and seven nethers including earth itself. The Guru began to recite the Japji. When he repeated the twenty-second pauri (stanza) of Japji, the Pir got wonder-stuck hearing something contrary to the authority of the holy Quran, that there were hundreds of thousands of nethers and upper regions, and that at last men grew weary of searching for them. The Pir then called upon the Guru to give a manifestation of what he said. Upon this it is said, the Guru laid his hand on the priest's son and showed him upper and lower regions described in Japji- pauri 22. To prove whether the boy actually saw those regions, he brought Parshad (sacred food) from one of those regions and gave it to his father. Both the Pir and Bahlol bowed before the Guru and asked for his blessings.http://www.allaboutsikhs.com/gurus/gurunanak7.htm#9
Speaking of the intellectuality of Islam:
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=49721&d=12&m=8&y=2004&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
The title of the article is "Mobile Phone Being Used for Sorcery".
jay
“Why did Egypt, Persia etc become Muslim? The answer is simple; the intellectuality of Islam was way above and beyond what they had.”
Easy!Because thousands of arabs rampaged across their lands pillaging evryone they came across, massacring all who sought to defend themselves and their families or dared to refuse conversion to islam.
Under those kind of conditions it's hardly surprising those countries became islamic.
They dared not become muslim is the short answer.
What amount of lies together, it´s pathetic.
Reading stuff like this symposium frustrates the hell out of me. I have visions of being there and pounding the skull of that Khaleel moron with a blunt object. Not very nice, I know, but in cases of terminal stupidity, my patience evaporates.
Intellectuality of Islam???!!!???!!! That would be funny if it weren't so scary. These idiots actually believe this because this oxymoron is drilled into their brains from day one. What's worse is that this moron teaches at a university. Just goes to show that a degree or being in academia doesn't mean all that much. He must have got his degree out of the bottom of a box of Corn Flakes. How many minds is he polluting, I wonder? Scary.
Rikki is correct. When a religion gives you the explicit duty and a god given right to murder, enslave, and steal without either worldly or devine consequences what other outcome could be expected. Muhammed devised these tenets knowing his followers would shirk both the moral and civilized behavior that put constraints on his quest for power. Muhammed needed his brainwashed minions to be agressive and ruthless so he gave them a pass on murder and rewarded them with slaves and theft, not surprisingly he forbid such behavior toward other muslims. He had to give his followers some guidelines to allow them the defense of civilized behavior, even if it was just limited to other muslims. Besides he couldn't allow his religion to dive into complete anarchy, that wouldn't be at all helpful in achieving his goals. This ain't rocket science it's pyscholgy called behavior modification. Almost no one would by themselves behave morally and justly if told by their religious leaders that they have both cultural permission and a religious duty not to do so. And what does it say about people who embrace Islam and begin practicing these tenets without hesitation? Sounds like a pretty good gig for those already suffering from a shortage of morality and conscience, Islam just makes it legal as long as you prey on non-muslims and your conscience need never be bothered. Plus the method of Islam forcing itself upon anyone unfortunate enough to come into contact with it of 'convert or die' (used in conjunction with the 'leave and die' rule) is maybe the most successful pyramid scheme devised in all of history guarnteeing that Islam will never a lack new adherents to its tenets. Is it any wonder that most of Islam is staggeringly poor?
“Peace ceased when the crusades were launched, and which have not yet ended.”
I wonder, Arabic has one major difficulty in that the verb tenses are not clearly defined. As a result, they don't have a clear indication as to present, past and future. Everything is in the eternal now, with events that happened over a thousand years ago, which they feel are still present and relevant. We moved beyond them because they are clearly in our past. The Muslims have not because there is not conceptualization of the past - it does not exist in their language.
So, here's my proposal... What if a linguist - a particularly skilled one - were to take the Arabic language and create distinct verbal forms which have a clear present, future and past tense. Would this be enough to dislodge them from their "stuck in the past" place? Maybe it could give them a sense of history. It probably wouldn't go down easily, but if done correctly it could revolutionize the Arab cultures. They could become free of the murk that does not allow them to escape the 7th century.