Bahraini Muslim scholar on Russian school siege: "I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis"

It was bound to be said by someone sooner or later: the Russian school terror was all the work of the Jews. But not all the news is bad, although as I show here, Tantawi's reaction was not all it seemed to be. Abdulrahman al-Rashed says something below that I've seen many people get called "Islamophobic" for saying in America. From AP, with thanks to Nicolei:

Muslims worldwide are the main perpetrators of terrorism, a humiliating and painful truth that must be acknowledged, a prominent Arab writer and television executive wrote Saturday, as Middle East media and officials expressed horror at the bloody rebel siege of a Russian school.

Unusually forthright self-criticism followed the end of the hostage crisis, along with warnings that such actions inflict more damage to the image of Islam than all its enemies could hope. Arab leaders and Muslim clerics denounced the school seizure as unjustifiable and expressed their sympathy.

Russian commandos stormed the school Friday in Beslan, Russia; it had been taken over by rebels demanding independence for Chechnya. Russian officials said Saturday that the death toll was in the hundreds - many of them children.

Images of terrified young survivors being carried from the scene aired repeatedly on Arab TV stations. Pictures of dead and wounded children ran on front pages of Arab newspapers Saturday.

"Holy warriors" from the Middle East long have supported fellow Muslims fighting in Chechnya, and Russian officials said nine or 10 Arabs were among militants killed.

"Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture," Abdulrahman al-Rashed, general manager of Al-Arabiya television wrote in his daily column published in the pan-Arab Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper. It ran under the headline, "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!"

Al-Rashed ran through a list of recent attacks by Islamic extremist groups - in Russia, Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen - many of which are influenced by the ideology of Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of the al-Qaida terror network.

"Most perpetrators of suicide operations in buses, schools and residential buildings around the world for the past 10 years have been Muslims," he wrote. Muslims will be unable to cleanse their image unless "we admit the scandalous facts," rather than offer condemnations or justifications.

"The picture is humiliating, painful and harsh for all of us," al-Rashed wrote.

Contributors to Islamic Web sites known for their extremist content had mixed reactions on the hostage crisis, with some praising the separatists. Others wrote that people should wait until the militants had been identified before implicating Arabs in the drama.

Ahmed Bahgat, an Egyptian Islamist, wrote in his column in Egypt's leading pro-government newspaper, Al-Ahram, that hostage-takers in Russia as well as in Iraq are only harming Islam.

"If all the enemies of Islam united together and decided to harm it ... they wouldn't have ruined and harmed its image as much as the sons of Islam have done by their stupidity, miscalculations, and misunderstanding of the nature of this age," Bahgat wrote.

The horrifying images of the dead and wounded Russian students "showed Muslims as monsters who are fed by the blood of children and the pain of their families."

Mohammed Mahdi Akef, leader of Egypt's largest Islamic group, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, said in general, kidnappings may be justified, but killings are not. He said the school siege did not fit the Islamic concept of jihad, or holy war.

"What happened yesterday is not jihad because our Islam obligates us to respect the souls of human beings; it is not about taking them away," Akef told The Associated Press.

A bit disingenuous, eh, Akef, in light of Qur'an 9:5, 9:29, etc.?

Ali Abdullah, a Bahraini scholar who follows the ultraconservative Salafi stream of Islam, condemned the school attack as "un-Islamic," but insisted Muslims weren't behind it.

"I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.

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In formal logic a contradiction implies anything...

In Islamic logic anything really bad implies a Zionist plot...

Did anybody take me up on my bet? Forget the 6 month part. I need the money.

This is exactly what I've been talking about as recently as yesterday. Just like Omar Bakr, this bastard Ali Abdullah needs to disappear and NOW.
How can WE facilitate this NOW?!?!

ALL of these PUBLIC muslim bastards that spew lies and incite muslims to kill must be ELIMINATED. Call it whatever you want, but the end result must be their anonymous DEATH.

How ridiculous to blame Israel!! About as credible
as the tale of 'Allah's Giant Spiders' in Iraq.
Certainly there were NO Jewish Hostage Takers in
Beslan but THERE WERE AT LEAST TEN ARABS. Muslim liars take after their F****** Prophet...

There is hope the more they lose it the better off we are People are waking up all over the world!!


Part of the American Tribe
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her Open their Eyes to the ISLAMIC TERRORIST give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory Amen


PS
Remember a gun in hand is better than 2 cops on the phone!!

God Bless the Country's who have Hero's !! Pitty the countrys who need them!!

I am outraged that Muslims all over the world are not pouring out into the streets and denouncing the depravity of the Russian hostage taking and slaughter of innocents!

I have lost all respect for Islam for it's lack of protest over the horrible violence that is carried out in its name!

"The horrifying images of the dead and wounded Russian students 'showed Muslims as monsters who are fed by the blood of children and the pain of their families.'"

You mean they're not?

As a Muslim blogger from Bahrain, I just wanted to say that I agree with you all 100% with regards to the "Bahraini scholar". Not ALL of us Muslims hold sympathies for fools like him. I incidentally just posted about this article on my own blog here.

-Chan'ad

Jews are responsible? For such a small group of people, they sure get around.

Watching those images of children on tv, dead and wounded made me sick to my stomach. I am not sure how these islamos thought this act would help their cause.

ps. I have been thinking of buying a copy of the koran to further my study of Islam (know thy enemy), can any one recommend a good translation. I don’t want one that sugar coats what Mohamed’s demon really said. I would need a copy of the Hadith too, any recommends?

You have an interesting blog. I think I'll follow it henceforth.

We are not dumb like their people so those lies wont work..... To think we are that stupid makes me wonder how smart any muslim is. Doh!

And a war even jihad how is that a war when you get shot in the back every 5 years... That is not a war, holy or not, do they even know how to fight or just lie... Nuke them!

These comments by various Muslims fail to express any moral qualms. Every single one of them is about "harm to the image of Islam." Not one expresses horror at this event; not one bothers to remember another attack on a school, that at Ma'alot in Israel 30 years ago, in which 21 young children were murdered in cold blood, and their killers -- oh, their killers were hailed as great heroes by Yasser Arafat and every Arab around. Anyone remember Ma'alot, or care to look it up, and remind others about it?

As for these comments, just look at them closely. Ahmed Bahgat, for example, expresses his dismay only at the "stupidity, miscalculations, and misunderstanding of the nature of this age." You see, in this age, the Infidels are too strong. In this age, one cannot do what was done, unhindered, and virtually unseen, through 1350 years of history. One cannot massacre 60-70 million Hindus, the way one could a few centuries ago. One cannot simply destroy churches and synagogues, or massacre dhimmis whenever some concocted excuse could be found (so much for the slippery concept of the ahl al-dhimma, those "protected people"). No, it is important for Muslims to be careful and not to show "misunderstanding of the nature of this age." Better the Tariq Ramadan approach than that of Bin Laden -- it works so much more effectively.

No one should lose sight, for one minute, that all of these comments are directed at the harm they do to the ultimate goal of Muslims: to spread Islam until it covers the globe, to ensure that there are no remaining obstacles to Islam which, of course, requires the subjugation (if not the killing, or conversioni) of all non-Muslims, reduced to the status of dhimmis, which means a status of humiliation, degradation, and permanent insecurity. This is in the canonical texts; this, and this alone -- not the pious nonsense presented taqiyya-fashion either by cunning Muslims or non-cunning non-Muslims of the Armstrong/Esposito/Diane Eck/Michael Sells variety, peopel who should be either mocked or locked up (I prefer the former, but then I have an incurably kind disposition).

Whether clinically or criminally insane do not need a reply. But they have to have their weapons taken away, gently if possible, violently if necessary. And weapons include, of course, all the instruments of Jihad -- not only qital (combat), but money, and the ability to conduct propaganda (heard those Saudi ads on the radio yet? And those back-up singers, the Wahabettes, with Eugene Bird, Andrew Gilgore, Raymond Close, James Akins, and the whole Grand Ole Arab Opry -- not to be missed), and the right to continue a demographic invasion that must be first stopped, and then reversed, so that the Bilad al-kufr is no longer a welcoming place for those whose belief-system renders them, and their descendants, a permanent threat that make life more expensive, unpleasant, and dangerous, for the indigenous Infidels. Western civilization, and those whose true legacy it is, even if they are often unworthy of it, have no obligation to commit suicide. More than that, if we can do at least one thing to have deserved that civilization, even if we do not measure up to the intelligent past, the very least we can do is attempt to keep its save from its most malevolent enemies, the enemies of free inquiry, of artistic creation, of intellecutal liberty which, of course, is the only kind that matters.

Sheik Canuck-

Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can give you pointers here. I've heard that there are several whitewashed editions out there which, unfortunately, many Muslims read.

As for me, I have an old copy of Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall's translation from the 1950s. It suits me well, and I have seen suras in it which are definitely not whitewashed. However, it may be out of print.

Mr. Spencer, any suggestions?

It was the Jews??? Whew and here I thought those pesky amish were at it again. Cowardly muslims cant even take credit for their own evil.

Thanks Hugh for reminding us about Ma'alot.

Curiously I find no web sites devoted to Ma'alot alone. Here is one with a description of what happened along with some other stuff. If anyone knows of a better site please put it up:

Ma'alot terrorist attack

The paralels with Beslan are chilling.

Sorry to behave like a shadow, or more like an outline of one, but above Hugh just listed a series of rather concrete 'objectives' for policy makers in any real 'declared war' against Jihad (and we have already discussed the conceptual and political strengths and liabilities of that one). It deserves a list, like a college textbook, a list of 'deprivations'.

Here it is:

1) Deprive immigration.
2) Deprive weapons.
3) Deprive money.
4) Deprive the ability to conduct propaganda.

There you go.

So its the Jew's again.

So tell me did Israel fight itself in their 1948 War of Independence or did they kick allahs butt?

Did Israel fight itself in the 1956 Sinai Campaign or did they beat allah again?

Did Israel fight itself in the 1967 Six-Day War
or did allah lose again? is he weak or what!

Did Israel fight itself in the 1973 Yom Kippur War or did allah lose yet again?

Did Israel fight itself in the 1982 Operation Peace for Galilee or has allah just continued his losing ways?

Dont follow a loser.

CHAN'AD
Congratulations on your Blog and thoughtful, well
written articles. Shall be visiting...

Yeah, half the Mo-bots (like Reza) say that the Muslims are sick and tired of being sooooo oppressed and are gloriously fighting back. The other half says it was all a set up.

Bahraini Muslim scholar on Russian school siege: "I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis"

Well that happens every time a muslim does anything wrong. They blame it on the Jews, the Israelis, and the Zionists. But likewise, every time a muslim does something wrong, certain people here in America say: "I have no doubt in my mind that this is the fault of the Liberals"

Sound familiar, Gary, Catharine, DC, Son, Spencer?

In fact, if you dare to check, I think that you will find that if you take a typical mullah speech, substitute the word "Liberal" for "Infidel", "Democrat" for "Jew", "bible" for "Koran" (and a few other obvious key words) you'll have something that sounds a lot like Mike Savage, Neil Boortz, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and the rest of the "left wing media".

But nevermind. Some people use scapegoat politics for the same reason that some people use terror: it works.

Hopefully this tragedy in Russia will be a turning point in the "War On Terror." I was thinking that if I was religious, and people in my religion did this terrible thing, I'd leave that religion. And probably, if the Chechens were any other religion but Islam, millions of people would leave that religion too. But you can't leave Islam.

I'm reading the book "The God of Small Things" by dhimmi extraordinaire Arundhati Roy of India. I hear her all the time on Pacifica whining and mewling about the "Occupation of Palestine" and the evil Hindus of India with their "Occupation of Kashmir." Give me a break lady. If not for the "evil Hindus of India" YOUR people, Syrian Christians, would have disapppeared under the heavy boot of Islam (like they have in Syria.)

India is also the last refuge for the Zoroastrians (Persians), Tibetan Buddhists, and Sikhs. Where in Islam or in the history of Islam has any group of outsiders been allowed refuge under Muslim rule?

Anyway, the book is actually pretty good. Like Maureen Dowd, she seems to hate everybody: Hindus, Christians, Muslims (at least in the book), Commies (the book in set in Kerala, the first place in the world where Communism was voted in.) Well I think I have gotten off topic, so see you at another comment section, unless this hurrican gets me.

KJ

Hey guys:

Reza just got banned from LGF. She tried re-registering and posting as "Joe H." but Charles banned her again. Troll or not, her comments defending the Beslan massacre (just as she did here - word for word, in fact) were so offensive that she's no longer allowed to play with the big boys.

BTW, she's posting from an ISP in Chicago.

The devil in our very midst . . .

From the article: "I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.

I know I'm working against the Muslims. Hell, everyone should be. After this bullshit in Russia, they should all be penned up, and shipped off to their war-torn, sandstormed, shari'a plagued beloved hell hole in the middle of the desert.

Muslims are bad. I've tried to avoid typing that, but nothing good has come from them, exept those who are no longer among the living. They contribute lies, deception, diversion, racism, and violence to our communities, and should be eradicated at once.

Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims?

What an asshole!.......How much worse can their image possibly be? They're a virus. They're a toxin. They're the illiterate poster children for birth control, and should be expelled from every free nation on earth.

Shooting children in the back, and hitting them with the butts of their guns. Killing children and women........I await my chance to blow a hollow pointed hole in one or more of them.......Damn these bastards make me sick. Mr. Putin, do what you have to do.......

"I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.

This is a matter-of-fact statement for these people, since, for them, the idea that the Jews are behind all the evil in the world is an article of faith.

Shhh . . . the Jews were in Dallas on November 22, 1963 . . . and they've been, SOMEHOW, responsible for the terrible storms in Florida this year. Hell . . . I hear they were in Japan today causing those earthquakes !

OT, Folks--but it's good news!

Sheik Canuck,

Glad to see your posts again! You are JUST IN TIME--my first grandchild, a boy, was born just 40 minutes ago, and he is in SERIOUS need of a "Your grandchild will be. . ." prediction! Can you do us that favor? Eh?

Talk to you all tomorrow!

OT, Folks--but it's good news!
Sheik Canuck,
Glad to see your posts again! You are JUST IN TIME--my first grandchild, a boy, was born just 40 minutes ago, and he is in SERIOUS need of a "Your grandchild will be. . ." prediction! Can you do us that favor? Eh?
Talk to you all tomorrow!
Posted by: cubed


Cubed

Congrats on the Grandson!! :-)

A prediction eh? ah… well… let me think.

“Your Grandchild will be happy, prosperous, healthy and blessed with many friends and long lived Grandparents.”

Its nice to see good news on here.

Canuck

Seems like the Pickthall translation of the Koran is available at:

http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam/quran/pickthall/







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