Bigley caged and chained in new video

May all forgiving Allah (swt) have mercy on Mr. Bigley. Here is hope against hope that he is freed.

I understand Mr. Blair’s position, he cannot be seen to give in, but you know that the scum will try & milk this position to it’s fullest & then be-head him.

Perhaps it is time for all westerners to leave…for their own sakes.

Perhaps it is time for Amber Alert locator chips
to be embedded in the love handles or scalps of these victimized contractors in order for SF to be able to go in and slaughter these kidnappers where they hide.
I for one would rather catch a bullet in the FACE in a rescue attempt, than to have my head sawed off by some screaming maniac.

Although ....knowing the SF ...chances are pretty good that I would get to see my kidnappers wasted with extreme prejudice, AND come out of the situation alive.

Stockholm syndrome at work. If his captors don't want to kill him, why don't they free him? Of course, it's safer to blame Blair. As to what to do about it, the answer is simple.

We need to out-terrorize the terrorists. To begin with, we can make an example out of Fallujah. Treat it as Dresden and Monte Cassino were treated.

Perhaps it is time for Muslims like Naseem to engage their co-religionists who perpetrate such barbaric acts in an exegesis of the Koranic texts which are used to justify the taking of hostages and the decapitation of "unbelievers".

Perhaps it is time for Muslims like Naseem to invoke a fatwa against those same hostage takers and mutilators...in the NAME OF ALLAH..., and if such a fatwa is not proclaimed, to explain why not.

As far as westerners leaving Iraq is concerned, I'm all for it. But one good gesture calls for another. So, OK, all westerners get out of Iraq, so long as all Muslims get out of, for example, France..."for their own sakes"...

Imagine if a picture of a muslim prisoner appeared like this...caged and chained like an animal...the muslims would be screaming and bitching...yet I hear nothing about an infidel being treated this way...do you think that if caught the kidnappers will face trial like lynndie and co are right now....I dont.

Poor Naseem,these are the same thugs that were outraged at the alleged prisoner abuse by a few U.S. soldier that appeared in about 8 documented
photo's.
The Hijab issue in France was the latest whine by Muslims,now it's the occupation tripe that works so well for Muslims in Palestine.The Islamists would love to have full control of thought and morale in Iraq,maybe your answer is to run away if that's what Muhammed would do,but most Christians I know value protecting the weak far more than a selfish opulant lifestyle.

It's really sad that Naseem doesn't feel the Iraqi's are human enough to give your life for their freedom and liberty that the Arab mindset took away. The Abu Ghirab case is befor the courts and people who were alledged to have acted outside their authority and code of conducts are afforded the same assumtion of innocence as Richard Reed and John Walker.
The assumtion of guilt followed by instance punishment may be the norm in Islamic Countries,but even CAIR USA has Mr.Hooper seeing Islamophobes under every bed and appears to ascribe to non-Muslims being guilty befor proven innocent. CAIR is a infidelophobic organization
that is bend on establishing an Islamic ruled NorthAmerica and they're starting in Canada by demanding "Shariah" Law for Muslims since the Quran dictates how Muslims live and what Laws they are under.
I would have thought that CAIR would set up a booth at all American Airports and warned all Muslim immigrants to get back on the planes and flee for their lives since America is such a evil oppresive un-Islamic Governed Nation that treats Muslims so badly the U.N. is based there to protect human rights.

NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE

Naseem, Again I must ask you, are you schitzophrenic, one minute your calling these guys scum the next you're up their arseholes, or is it just the apostate in you, just dying to come out???

BTW Naseem,
The only thing allah will do for "Mr.Bigley" is call for his death.

It would be instructive to show this video on American networks.

I hope the pictures are used to identify the style of brick and consruction material to locate
the where abouts of Bigley.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if foreigners had heat sensitive chips inplanted
under the skin with a transponder,a signal would locate me and the chip would confirm my death
by prolonged low body temperature.
Once confirmed dead, the crosshairs lock in on me and ram a missile up Ahmeds (sorry for the capital letter on ahmed,it's proper English and not endorsing a proper Muslim) arse to speed up
his desire to meet Allah.
Since I'll only be found headless on the roadside
somewhere,might as well take some Islamists with me so I can look down at their souls sliding down to greet Satan in the bowls of the Earth.

Now THAT I'd pay to see,the looks on their faces when Allah appears with Horns,vipercated tail,cloven hoofs,goatee,eyes of fire,praising them for doing his bidding.

AAAH...priceless.

Perhaps it is time for all westerners to leave…for their own sakes.

Posted by: Naseem at September 29, 2004 10:59 AM

That is what the mussis wil do run and Hide like saddam found in a SPIDER HOLE!!and WHERE OH WHER IS UBL YELLOW COWARD WHO HAS NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE TORA-BORA IN CASE YOU FORGOT THAT IS 2001 DEC.

No nasseem we don't run and hide we are not COWARDS Like your Friends We Stand and Fight Like the Heros that We ARE!!

These Videos have shown the MONSTERS that you are and you support!!

NO the WEST does not RUN and Mr. Bigley Knows this! So Keep showing the Videos so ALL can SEE the Monsters that you are!

I agree any one who goes in needs a GPS inplant then we will know where to drop the BOMBS!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat and give them courage to stand and Fight Amen

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Are people taken in by the Muslim council of Britain little charade ?
I am not british, I am from mainland europe
, English is my second language, yet, I sense that those people are making fun of the situation.
I would like to hear from british people what is being said on the streets.
THE MCB was so quick at organising marches against the war on Iraq but seem unable to monopolise the followers of Mohamed to march against terror WHY ?

PS. I hope my letter makes sense.

Kristian.

PS. I hope my letter makes sense.

Kristian.

Posted by: Kristian hovborg at September 29, 2004 03:24 PM

Some one posted yesterday that they are having a march in England in Oct. BUT the mulsums are not going to be apart this time?

what mulsms belive!!

MURDER:

Tabari IX:69 “Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.”
Tabari VIII:141 “The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night was: ‘Kill! Kill! Kill!’”
Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive.”
Ishaq:489 “Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing.”
Qur’an 2:191 “And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter.”
Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”
Bukhari:V4B52N270 “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.’ Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?’ The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.’ Maslama said, ‘Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.’ Muhammad said, ‘You may do so.’”
Ishaq:368 “Ka’b’s body was left prostrate [humbled in submission]. After his fall, all of the Nadir Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad’s order we were sent secretly by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his death with guile [cunning or deviousness]. Traveling by night, bold as lions, we went into his home. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet.”
Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 “We carried Ka’b’s head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah’s enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’”
Tabari VII:97 “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.’”
Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”
Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”
Ishaq: 676 “‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
Bukhari:V1B11N626 “The Prophet said, ‘No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr. If they knew the reward they would come to (the mosque) even if they had to crawl. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.’”
Tabari VIII:178/Ishaq:550 “Muhammad ordered that certain men should be assassinated even if they were found behind the curtains of the Ka’aba. Among them was Abdallah bin Sa’d [the Qur’an’s one and only scribe]. The reason that Allah’s Messenger ordered that he should be slain was because he had become a Muslim and used to write down Qur’an Revelation. Then he apostatized [rejected Islam].”
Tabari VIII:179 “Abdallah bin Sa’d fled to Uthman, his brother, who after hiding him, finally surrendered him to the Prophet. Uthman asked for clemency. Muhammad did not respond, remaining silent for a long time. Muhammad explained, ‘By Allah, I kept silent so that one of you might go up to him and cut off his head!’ One of the Ansar said, ‘Why didn’t you give me a sign?’ Allah’s Apostle replied, ‘A prophet does not kill by pointing.’”
Tabari VIII:179/Ishaq:550 “Among those who Muhammad ordered killed was Abdallah bin Khatal. The Messenger ordered him to be slain because while he was a Muslim, Muhammad had sent him to collect the zakat tax with an Ansar and a slave of his.... His girls used to sing a satire about Muhammad so the Prophet ordered that they should be killed along with Abdullah. He was killed by Sa’id and Abu Barzah. The two shared in his blood. One of the singing girls was killed quickly but the other fled. So Umar caused his horse to trample the one who fled, killing her.”
Ishaq:551 “Another victim was Huwayrith. He used to insult Muhammad in Mecca. Huwayrith was put to death by Ali. The Messenger ordered Miqyas’ assassination only because he had killed an Ansar who had killed his brother by mistake and then became a renegade by rejecting Islam.”
Tabari VIII:180 “Also among those eliminated were Ikrimah bin Abu Jahl and Sarah, a slave of one of Abd Muttalib’s sons. She taunted Muhammad while he was in Mecca.”
Tabari VIII:181 “The Messenger ordered six men and four women to be assassinated. One of these women was Hind, who swore allegiance and became a Muslim.”
Bukhari:V4B52N281 “They took Khubaib to Mecca after the battle of Badr. He had killed Harith, a Meccan nobleman. The Quraysh gathered to kill him in retribution.… Khubaib wanted to offer two Rakat (prayers). They allowed this and he said, ‘O Allah, kill them all with no exception.’ He then recited the poetic verse: ‘I’m being martyred as a Muslim. I do not mind how I am killed in Allah’s Cause. For my killing is for Allah’s Sake. If Allah wishes, He will bless the amputated parts of my torn body.’ Then the son of Harith [the man Khubaib had murdered] killed him.”
Ishaq:597 “When the Apostle returned to Medina after his raid on Ta’if, word spread that he had killed some of the men who had satirized and insulted him. The poets who were left spread in all directions.”
Tabari IX:76 “Malik has reported to me that you were the first from Himyar to embrace Islam and that you have killed infidels, so rejoice at your good fortune.”
Tabari IX:121 “When it was feasible for me, I struck him with my sword and killed him. Then I departed, leaving his women to throw themselves at him. When I returned to the Prophet, he asked, ‘Is your mission accomplished?’ ‘Yes. I have killed him.’”
Ishaq:308/Tabari VII:65 “When the Apostle was in Safra, Nadr was assassinated. When Muhammad reached Irq al-Zabyah he killed Uqbah. When the Prophet ordered him to be killed, Uqbah said, ‘Who will look after my children, Muhammad?’ “Hellfire,’ the Apostle replied, and he was killed.”
Tabari VII:85 “Muhammad killed many Quraysh polytheists at Badr.”
Tabari VII:99 “In this year, the killing of Abu Rafi the Jew took place. The Messenger sent some Ansar under the command of Abd Allah and Abd Allah against the Jew. Abu Rafi used to injure and wrong the Prophet.... Abd Allah said to the others, ‘Stay where you are, and I will go and ingratiate myself with the doorkeeper to gain entrance.’”
Tabari VII:100 “Every time I opened a door, I shut it behind me from the inside, saying to myself, ‘If they become aware, they will not have time to stop me from killing him.’ When I reached Rafi, he was in a dark room with his family. As I did not know where he was in the room, I said, ‘O Abu Rafi.’ When he replied, I proceeded toward the voice and gave him a blow with my sword. He shouted and I came back, pretending to be a helper. I said, ‘O Abu,’ changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, ‘I don’t know who came to strike me with his sword.’ Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. I hit him again and covered him with wounds, but I could not kill him, so I thrust the point of my sword into his stomach until it came out through his back. At that, I knew that I had killed him [in front of his wife and children]. I came out, filled with puzzlement, and went towards a ladder in order to get down but I fell into a moonlit night and sprained my foot. I bound it with my turban and moved on. I came to my companions and said, ‘By Allah, I will not leave till I hear the wailing of their women.’ So, I did not move till I heard them crying for the Jewish merchant. I said, ‘Deliverance! Allah has killed Abu Rafi.’ I got up, feeling no ailment, and proceeded till we came upon the Prophet and informed him.”
Tabari VII:101 “The Khazraj asked the Prophet for permission to kill Sallam Huqayq, who was in Khaybar. He granted this.” Ishaq:482 “One of the favors which Allah conferred upon his Prophet was that these two tribes of the Ansar, the Aws and the Khazraj, used to vie with one another like stallions to carry out the will of Muhammad. The Aws did not do anything which benefited him without the Khazraj saying, ‘By Allah they will not gain superiority over us in Islam in the eyes of the Messenger by doing this.’ And they would not cease until they had done something similar. Thus when the Aws killed Ka’b Ashraf on account of his hostility to Muhammad, the Khazraj conferred to find a man comparable to Ka’b in hostility and called to mind Sallam Huqayq in Khaybar. They asked the Prophet for permission to kill him, and it was granted.”
Tabari VII:101/Ishaq:483 “Sallam’s wife came out and we told her that we were Arabs in search of supplies. When we entered, we bolted the door on her so she gave a shout to warn him of our presence. We rushed upon him with our swords as he lay in his bed. He took his pillow and tried to fend us off. Abd Allah thrust his sword into his stomach and transfixed him while he was shouting, ‘Enough! Enough!’ At once we went out but Abd Allah had bad eyesight, and he fell off the stairway, bruising his leg or arm. ‘How shall we know that the enemy of Allah is dead?’ one of us asked. ‘I will go and look,’ one replied. He set off and mingled with the people. He said, ‘I found him with the men of the Jews, and with his wife, who had a lamp in her hand, peering into his face. She said, ‘By the God of the Jews, he is dead.’ I never heard any more pleasing words than these. We went to the Messenger of Allah and told him that we had killed the enemy of Allah. We disagreed in his presence about the killing of Sallam, each of us claiming to have done it. The Prophet said, ‘Bring me your swords.’ We did and he looked at them. He said, ‘This sword of Abd Allah killed him. I can see the marks left by bones on it.’”
Ishaq:483 “Allah, what a fine band you have, one willing to kill Sallam and Ashraf! We went with sharp swords, like fighting lions. We came upon their homes and made them drink death with our swift-slaying swords. Looking for the victory of our Prophet’s religion, we ignored every risk.”
Tabari VII:112/Ishaq:372 “When a blind Jew became aware of the presence of the Messenger and the Muslims he rose and threw dust in their faces, saying, ‘Even if you are a prophet, I will not allow you into my garden!’ I was told that he took a handful of dirt and said, ‘If only I knew that I would not hit anyone else, Muhammad, I would throw it in your face.’ Sa’d rushed in and hit him on the head with his bow and split the Jew’s head open.”
Ishaq:403 “Allah killed twenty-two polytheists at Uhud.”
Tabari VII:147 “Amr was sent by Muhammad to kill Abu Sufyan [the Quraysh leader and merchant]. The Prophet said, ‘Go to Abu Sufyan and kill him.’ …When I entered Mecca I had a dagger ready to slay anybody who laid hold of me. My Ansar companion asked, ‘Should we start by circumambulating the Ka’aba seven times and praying two rak’ahs?’ I said, ‘I know the Meccans better than you do.’ But he kept pestering me until in the end we went to the Ka’aba, circumambulated it seven times, and prayed.” Tabari VII:148 “One of the Meccans recognized me and shouted, ‘That is Amr!’ They rushed after us, saying, ‘By Allah, Amr has not come here for any good purpose! He has come for some evil reason.’ Amr had been a cutthroat and a desperado before accepting Islam.”
Tabari VII:148 “Amr said, ‘Let’s wait here until the cry has died down. They are sure to hunt for us tonight and tomorrow. I was still in the cave when Uthman bin Malik came riding proudly on his horse. He reached the entrance to our cave and I said to my Ansar companion, ‘If he sees us, he will tell everyone in Mecca.’ So I went out and stabbed him with my dagger. He gave a shout and the Meccans came to him while I went back to my hiding place. Finding him at the point of death, they said, ‘By Allah we knew that Amr came for no good purpose.’ The death of their companion impeded their search for us, for they carried him away.”
Tabari VII:149 “I went into a cave with my bow and arrows. While I was in it, a one-eyed man from the Banu Bakr came in driving some sheep. He said, ‘Who’s there?’ I said [lied], ‘I’m a Banu Bakr.’ ‘So am I.’ Then he laid down next to me, and raised his voice in song: ‘I will not believe in the faith of the Muslims.’ I said, ‘You will soon see!’ Before long the Bedouin went to sleep and started snoring. So I killed him in the most dreadful way that anybody has ever killed. I leant over him, struck the end of my bow into his good eye, and thrust it down until it came out the back of his neck. After that I rushed out like a wild beast and took flight. I came to the village of Naqi and recognized two Meccan spies. I called for them to surrender. They said no so I shot and arrow and killed one, and then I tied the other up and took him to Muhammad.” Tabari VII:150 “I had tied my prisoner’s thumbs together with my bowstring. The Messenger of Allah looked at him and laughed so that his back teeth could be seen. Then he questioned me and I told him what had happened. ‘Well done!’ he said, and prayed for me to be blessed.”
Ishaq:434 “Amr and an Ansari waited until they were asleep. Then Amr killed them, thinking that he had taken vengeance for the Muslims who had been slain. When he came to the Messenger, he told him what had happened. The Prophet said, ‘You have killed men for whom I shall have to pay blood-money.’”
Tabari VIII:22 “Hassan was with the women and children. A Jew passed by and began to walk around his settlement. There was no one to protect them while the Apostle and his Companions were at the Meccans’ throats. So I said: ‘Hassan, this Jew is walking around. I fear he will point out our weakness while the Muslims are too busy to attend to us. So go down to him and kill him.”
Tabari VIII:22/Ishaq:458 “‘Allah forgive you, daughter of Abd al-Muttalib,’ Hassan said. ‘You know that I am not the man to do it.’ When he said that to me I saw that nothing could be expected from him. I girded myself, took a club, and, having gone down from the fortress to the man, I struck him with the club until I killed him. When I had finished with him, I returned to the fortress and said, ‘Hassan, go down to him and strip him—only his being a man kept me from taking his clothes.’ Hassan replied, ‘I have no need for his spoils.’”
Ishaq:464 “The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.” Tabari VIII:40 “The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence.”
Tabari VIII:38 “The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.”
Tabari VIII:90 “Abu Basir went out with his companions. When they stopped to rest he asked one of them, ‘Is this sword of yours sharp?’ ‘Yes,’ he replied. ‘May I look at it?’ Basir asked. ‘If you wish.’ Basir unsheathed the sword, attacked the man, and killed him. The other Muslim ran back to the Messenger, saying, ‘Your Companion has killed my friend.’ While the man was still there, Abu Basir appeared girded with the sword. He halted before Muhammad and said, ‘Messenger, your obligation has been discharged.’”

LET THEIR BOOK DO THE TALKING!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM AND COURSE TO DEFEAT THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE EYES OF THE WORLD TO THEIR THREAT AMEN

RAZE FALLUJAH.

Naseem: "Perhaps it is time for all westerners to leave…for their own sakes."

And maybe we could have all muslims leave the UK or the US for their own sake.

Catherine,

Can you please stop posting massive entries please?
We all love your opinions and value your responses, but they are very long and difficult for some people to read. Maybe you could link your l o n g comments to an alternative site or something?

God bless you!
Hope you catch some squirrels!

Oh, by the way, they are Muslims, not Mulsims.

Oh, by the way, they are Muslims, not Mulsims.

Posted by: RW at September 29, 2004 05:12 PM

You Brits may sp it that way but us rednecks spell it muslum! the way you sp it sounds like they are all slim?

I will try but Just trying to get the word out you see the people have not been informed what is in their book they have been told that they are only about peace?

Not about killing and lieing robing and raping I think to let their book do the talking is the best way!!

I am sure all you Brits already Know but we Americans are alittle slow?

It is soon dove season and then Big Game here!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to DEFEAT the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them and Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat Amen

I like Catherines' quotes from the qu'ran etc., and have copied some so i can quote to those who do not understand the poison islam feeds its pidgeons.

mo slaughtered, ordered slaughter, encouraged slaughter, legislated slaughter, of innocents.

mo " is islam ".

islam is not an Abrahamic religion. islam is not a religion; it is an ideology of hate - what else could it be, based on the life of mo.

Christians ask " what would Christ have done ", and the answer will lead them to good.

muslims will say the same re. mo, and will be led to evil.

mo is dead. Thank God.

islam will die, must die; it is unworthy of arabs, it is unworthy of the human race.

I like Catherines' quotes from the qu'ran etc., and have copied some so i can quote to those who do not understand the poison islam feeds its pidgeons.

mo slaughtered, ordered slaughter, encouraged slaughter, legislated slaughter, of innocents.

mo " is islam ".

islam is not an Abrahamic religion. islam is not a religion; it is an ideology of hate - what else could it be, based on the life of mo.

Christians ask " what would Christ have done ", and the answer will lead them to good.

muslims will say the same re. mo, and will be led to evil.

mo is dead. Thank God.

islam will die, must die; it is unworthy of arabs, it is unworthy of the human race.

I have been reading islamic blogs this evening, and one poster caught my eye. This person used the example of the stars to represent islam. He/she said that you can't really see the stars (islam) because of all the light pollution in the cities (the light is of course, our education, religion,etc.) the poster said that we should leave the cities and the light and go into the darkness then you could see the stars. This person did not realize that they were telling the truth more than they will ever understand.

that's right Carolyn2-
Islam is a light only to those who have been kept in the dark for so long, their pupils have dilated so big that they are blinded by any light more intense than a star a million light years away! Star light is so cold.

"Bigley caged and chained in new video"

WOW..the islamists are treating him like an animal...that is an improvement!!!

OT............
Catherine,

Please contact me at susan_b356@yahoo.com

Gary sent the pictures and asked me to forward them to you/ they are beautiful.

Susan

I personally feel sorry for Mr. Bigley and I hope the he’ll be released soon, but nobody should blame Tony Blair, nor the British government for his capture, not even him or his family ( Mr Bigley’s family was outraged that Tony Blair attended the opening ceremony for Virgin Train, while Mr Bigley was in captivity in danger of beheading). After all the British Foreign Office advised against non-essential travel to Iraq at lest six months ago. They said that they couldn’t guarantee the safety of British nationals in Iraq. Mr Bigley decided to go anyway. That was his own decision against the advice of the British Foreign Office, and while I feel very bad for him, I also think that if he would have followed his government’s advice he wouldn’t be in this situation. Why don’t they blame the kidnappers? Maybe it would be just too logical.

Hey, what is with blasting Naseem? Many of you have called for moderate Muslims to condemn the kidnappings, but when Naseem did so, you all threw down on him. How is that going to encourage any kind of meanignful dialogue with moderate Muslims?

I strongly believe that leaving Iraq is not the right answer- but isn't there anyone else here who has at least wondered about that from time to time? I think I know how I'd feel if Bigley were my husband- I believe that I would still want Blair to remain firm - but since I've never had to face such an ordeal, I can't really say for sure what my response would be.

I hope that more people like Naseem post here. WE need a groundswell of antifundamentalist thought and protest, and it may as well start here.

An economic point of view.

A global market is being created for hostages. The Islamic terrorists "create/manufacture" hostages and governments buy these hostages with ransoms and/or concessions. This sends the message that there is a demand for hostages and that producing hostages is "good business." And so the market expands.

The proceeds from this market then go into providing more goods and services for the Islamic terrorists jihad.

When will governments and others understand this basic principle: You create more of what you pay for.

Gloria,
I too feel soory for Mr.Bigley, but the begging and pleading videos are putting untold stress on our government, especially Blair; WHO IN NO WAY CAN BE SEEN TO NEGOTIATE WITH THESER LOW-LIFES HOLDING HIM
In the video Bigley says:
" I know you don't care about me , but I am one man , I am innocent, (and this is the bit where I laughed) as are the muslim women who the government are holding"

Innocent??? Would that be Saddams two chemical/bio weapons experts you're refering to??? Innocent my ass, if they were released, they could cause thousands of deaths, and I'm sorry, but the life of an old man in the balance of things just ain't worth it!!! Maybe we should release Saddam too while we're at it!!!
If I was in Mr.Bigleys shoes they'd have had to have killed me by now because I would not stop trying to kill them, until my last breath had past, even in chains I'd headbutt, spit, and bite, and I wouldn,t give the unholy bastards the pleasure of begging , pleading, grovelling or screaming/crying.
I'd insult them , call their mothers pigs, they'd be desperate to kill me first, and if I did get chance to speak to Tony Blair on video I'd say:

"Don't give these scum-bags the steam off of your piss, kill the whores they want released, I'd die rather than help these cowardly fuckwits. LOOK EVERYONE, THEY'RE WEARING MASKS, THEY'RE SCARED OF YOU SEEING WHO THEY ARE!!! I'M IN FALLUJA, LEVEL THE PLACE, THERE ARE NO DESCENT PEOPLE HERE!!!"

Naseem,
Why don't you offer to be exchanged for "Mr.Bigley" if you're so concerned for his safety???

Is it not ironic that after more than thirty years of silence in the western media regarding the beheadings of hundreds of NON WHITE christians and hindus in India and the philipines et al, we are suddenly 'awakened' to these attrocities .
And even now we have not yet been able to describe them as islamic ritual beheadings but by a host of confusing euphemisms to absolve Islam from involvement.
Yet as we know, on this website and now on many others too, such beheadings of infidels have the primary function of internal recruitment into Islamic Jihad.
An enforcement of the strict religious aspects of Islam, turning the executioners into pure religious "holy warriors" in the eyes of the new recruits.
The gruesome videos will indeed serve the purpose of adding more volunteers to the already swollen ranks of the murderous islamic fanatics.
The second purpose is of course external and aimed at the west. the perpetrators,knowing full well that such acts are eventually laid in the shoulders of our own western leaders by the masses of deluded and demented western liberals and their university intellectuals and press lackeys. Such acts become powerful tools in the destabilisation of our governments.
And a plethora of false moral equivalence between our own treatment of prisoners and the gruesome horrors are made daily by the degenerate liberals and western hating marxists.
In other words, the more they slaughter our innocents, the more we will blame ourselves and look for the "root causes" within ourselves. They know this so well and they keep working it.
sadly,they also love Islam a thousand times more than we cherish our own freedom and democracy.
There is little doubt that ISLAM harnesses and exploits the dark side of human nature like no other ideology has ever managed to achieve.