Despite attacks, Saudis still feed jihad

The Saudis continue their double game. From Middle East Newsline:

HERZLIYA, Israel [MENL] -- Saudi Arabia, despite a vigorous military campaign against Islamic insurgents, was said to have continued financing the Al Qaida-inspired war against the West.

Several leading analysts and former officials echoed this assertion during a conference last week by the International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism in Herzliya, Israel. The analysts said Saudi Arabia has maintained funding to ensure the spread of Al Qaida-inspired ideology abroad even as authorities fight the movement within the kingdom.

"The Saudis have been jolted by the Al Qaida threat," Dore Gold, a senior Israeli government consultant and president of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, said. "At the same time, they are ideologically committed to supporting jihad externally."

Gold, a former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, presented documents that told of Saudi support to the Palestinian movement, Hamas, as late as May 2003. The payment was made through the kingdom-sponsored charity, International Islamic Relief Organization.

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Like we expected something else by the Israeli's. I would like to see a non-independent institution to confirm this.

I meant 'independent'. Excuses.

Saudis still feed jihad

From reading between the lines, would it not be a good idea to investigate all Muslim activities - more important the mosques to determine who finances them and for what purpose they are used?
Could it be these mosques work to present “religion” far superior than any other religion from the front door while pursuing all manner of hate and devious activities to slowly take over other countries?
Is it true the best weapon to establish the Muslim doctrine in the US is to use all the rights and freedoms of the US to convert those rights and freedoms over to the Muslims?
To what extent is these activities financed by the Saudi’s?

bugmenot

Could it be the Israeli’s have answered these questions and more? To single out one country or institution to confirm this when many countries are subjected to the results of this destructive doctrine is a sure sign of blindness.

What I am going to say may seem nutty but I read in the American Scientist magazine that a company is making oil from organic waste products. Maybe CWT's process won't be able to compete in price with oil pumped from the gound BUT they have proven oil can be made in significant quantities energy efficiently from organic waste.

Exert from CWT website

"Changing World Technologies, a company devoted to developing emerging technologies that address specific energy needs, has been named by Scientific American magazine as one of the top 50 contributors to the advancement of technology in the realms of science, engineering, commerce and public policy.

In the December 2003 issue, Scientific American designates CWT the top company in the energy category, for devising a method for turning solid waste into oil."


IF it works it will give the the US, europe and all countries with large agricultural/organic waste production their oil self-sufficiency. The company directors think they can produce light crude for 10 dollars a barrel once mass production is acheived. I read that the US produces about just enough organic waste to right now to produce 95 percent of its oil needs if CWT techology works. They are producing oil from turkey offal right now at a pilot plant.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find the original article about all this at the American Scientists website though. Am very sorry about this. :(

IF it works it will destroy much of Saudi Arabia's and the middle east's control over the west's economy and politics. Middle eastern states funding to Islamists world-wide will greatly reduce becuase they will be broke.

Here is a link to CWT'S web page. Read about it for yourself.

http://www.changingworldtech.com/home.html

This is nothing new. Saudi Arabs are fully committed to jihad, no matter what they tell us and the rest of the world. The strife between the ruling princelings and their enemies has nothing to do with the jihad against the non-Islamic world. Note that the "terrorists" in Saudi only kill Christians and other non-Moslems.

obl r us,

An alternative source of energy to replace petroleum is the solution to the jihad problem. Without the oil income, Saudis would no longer have an endless source of income to finance most of the world's jihadist activities.

Iran also sponsors and finances jihad; its economy dependes on income from oil exports.

Instead of a military solution, which the still-anti-jihadist part of the West is too squeamish to employ, the economic solution would be more acceptable.

We know, however, that there is and will be opposition by government and industry (petroleum, automobile, etc.) to non-dependence on oil.

The most important news related to the Jihad, which of course the Saudis support, and always will support, as long as it does not threaten their own rule, is that the Russian oil company Yukos has raised its confirmed reserves from 19 billion to 98 billion barrels. If those reserves are real, this means that one Russian oil company now has reserves equal to 2/5 of the Saudi total. This is good news, as is any news that diminishes the importance of Saudi energy resources.

On the other hand, it has gone unnoticed that a few months ago the Saudis signed contracts for natural gas exploration with a French company,Total, to be conducted in or near the Rub al-Khali. In that area, were natural gas to be discovered, it would most naturally have to be pumped through pipelines going through Oman, and no doubt Sultan Qaboos is even now wondering if the Saudi bullying of his country, which was last observed with the covert support for the Dhofar Rebellion, will be renewed -- he might well be thinking that he is both glad there are still British military advisers and trainers, and wondering if he might invite the Americans to establish a base, should they choose to leave Saudi Arabia). As the Saudi lobby in Washington seems to have fallen on hard times, those who might consider Oman -- and in protecting Oman from Saudi bullying -- may be in the ascendant.

But if one has to choose a base, the southern Sudan -- the non-Muslim southern Sudan -- would be far better than any Muslim site. The ill-fated CENTO "alliance" with Iraq, Turkey, and Pakistan (not one of them a real ally to count on), the loss of Wheelus Air Base in LIbya when King Idris was deposed while out of the country, by Khaddafy the inability to use the bases in Turkey for operations against Muslim powers, the disgusting treatment meted out to Ameridan airmen by the Saudis, with their contemptous sneers of cold command (treating American servicemen like hired servants has not been forgotten, nor has it gone down well), all militate against Oman, no matter how accomodating and charming Sultan Qaboos may be.

The rule should be: no more bases, of any kind, in any Muslim country. They are too dangerous, the population potentially hostile because of Islam itself, and not worth the effort. Nor can facilities be built and then left for the use of a Muslim power (if the Americans leave their Saudi bases, they must either completely destroy them, or to keep the ability to easily sabotage them should the need arise -- and it probably will).

There is no shortage of oil or natural gas. Where do you think the oceans of liquid hydrocarbons on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn came from? The truth is that most hydrocarbons are produced abiogenically deep inside the Earth. This has been well known for at least 50 years. What it means is that very deep wells will yield oil virtually anywhere on Earth. Hundreds of such wells have been drilled and are producing right now in Russia and Vietnam (drilled by Russia).

Just Google abiogenic hydrocarbons. Here's a "popular" article on the subject that unfortunately contains some politically offensive material, but the technical information is correct.

You might also enjoy Googling "methane hydrate" and "methane clathrates". There are thousands of years worth of proven reserves of natural gas there for the taking.

I, too, support the idea of attacking the Jihad in the Sudan to defend the hundreds of thousands, who face the imminent threat of mass murder, and for strategic reasons.

Here and here are two politics-free links about abiogenic petroleum and natural gas. The first one is short and pretty convincing. You can Google up hundreds more references. The "bottom line" is that We do not need Mideastern (or Mexican, South American, or Canadian) oil. Furthermore, the US has enough coal to last hundreds of years, and coal is easily gassified - the process was used extensively in the 19th century, particularly in England. Also, synthetic petroleum can be derived from coal - Germany did it on a very large scale in WWII. Finally, the Athabascan Tar Sands and other deposits in Canada, not to mention the oil shales in Wyoming and elsewhere in the Western US, contain more oil than all of the conventially known reserves in the Middle East.

And don't forget to Google methane clathrates.

So, does anybody want to take a shot at explaining what's really going on in the world?

Saudis and Arabs will always feed jihad because Islam is an Arab religion and Arabs believe themselves to be the first among Muslims, the most important people of earth. They have convinced the conquered and Arabized populations of the coming triumph of Islam over all others. At that time, Arabs, the most deserving, would control the earth's resources and human capital. Jihad is the method of gaining and maintaining control.

Is there a behind-the-scenes movement afoot to consolidate power and the world's wealth into a few hands after all is said and done at the expense or in concert with Arabs is an intriguing thought although it does smack of conspiracy theories. World politics, the art of the possible on a grand scale. Hmmmmmmmm

YahudimRevenge, just read your comment on the Bashir article from Saturday 18th:
Rikki and RW,

Comments like "bring in the exterminators" and "lock and load" without the actual action are simply lip service and only help us to FEEL better. No end is accomplished by words alone.


My friend.Words are the smallest weapon in my arsenal, I regularly go on leftist websites and try to open their eyes to Satans Great Plague(islam), besides this me and my friends expose it's true evil motives to "the sleepers" on a daily basis, so by that notion, a lot is being acheived by words.
But as I've told you before, I'm doing a hell of a lot more than using words (I come on JihadWatch most days to see whats what, and express my pissedoffness, and what I think should be done to all muslims (personally I think death is too merciful for many of them), but on the outside world a lot is more is being acheived, so don't assume that I'm just another anonimous internet loudmouth.
I'd be foolish to reveal anymore on such a public site (I'm still getting spam emails from when my email address was accessable on here, which proves the resilience of the silent enemies who come here to spy), but think of a combo of the British Alliance and BNP and then try and imagine something a little more illegal and rebelious than that, you're nearly there.
And trust me if ever there is an attempted takeover or islamic coupe, or whatever, in the UK, there will be enemies of the satan worshippers pooring out of the wood work top counter it, and three or four times their possible number, none shall be spared.

Slightly off topic I know butt....

One of the favourite American sayings is “ride ‘em cowboy”. Given what has happened this weekend is there no way to change it to “Ryder ‘on them thar golf club cowboy”.

After the 18.5 to 9.5 mauling in the Ryder cup to those Europeans (that show no team work in anything else), what I want to know is “How are you gonna blame the Islamists for this calamitous defeat”?

Was it perhaps that the American players drove cars powered by Saudi Fuel or perhaps Phil Mikelson’s new clubs had extracts of Middle East iron ore!

So, C’mon let me see you blame the Islamists for this?

Naseem.....

Butt....is the behind of a cattle......which seems to be the place that most apologists talk from...."Butt" anyway.......

Rather than trying to be humorous....I would suggest you seriously look into the aspects of your religion that conflict with the basic human principles of decency and morality....and then dencounce them.......

Mr Rikki says "but think of a combo of the British Alliance and BNP and then try and imagine something a little more illegal and rebelious than that, you're nearly there".

So you now show your true (red, blue & white is it ) colours, what do you do?

Go in cahoots with the bovver boys...Smash propery, burn some, defame, beat up poor defencless women & children...murder/kidnap the men.....what a pathetic way to behave!!!

How does this make you any different from the people you wish to destroy...have you brought them down to your level or is it the other way round?

It is precicely this sort of thing that starts up the violence cycle (which I abhor), Mr. Rikki let's hope that if you get caught then it's by the British Police, bacause you certainly wouldn't want Sharia law privately enacted on you, (and that is not a threat by me, I'm a law abiding Citizen where ever I am ). I am just wishing that you would use due political process to air and enact your grievences.

Naseem,
I'd like to meet you, where do you live???

Bring as many of your stinking friends, family with you as you want and lets get something arranged.

Mr. Rikki,

If it really hslps you, I live in Allama Iqbal Town, Lahore. Lots of pleasant gardens, mosques, and of course muslim people.

Mr. Rikki,

Let me know when you want to come, I arrange for some tea and buscuits!

What the Ryder has to do with the lying, back biting Saudi drunks is out of my reach.

The fact is the Saudi bastards have financed terror cells for the last 40 years. Not an opinion, just a fact of life.

They are nothing but a defenseless oil vendor, and should be placed under the thumb of the U.S. for all days. They cannot be trusted, which follows the exact description of Muslims in general. They lie to achieve their goals.

Low down rotten scoudrels, all.

Naseem,
If I could afford to, I'd travel right over to the cockroach nest that is Pakistan, with a sniper rifle and cap off as many genetic mistakes as possible.
What I'm saying is the same as YahudimRevenge: When are you next comming to the UK, and how can I find you?

Further to this article:

I can't help wishing that the coalition forces had've carried out their campaign in the House of Saud, far more scum to kill there.

You idiot children and you pathetic rants... Rikki, if you are so goddam tough and good with a rifle, WHY are the Jihadis in London STILL praising the 9-11 hijackers? Why don't you go "have a talk" with them? You just talk like a tough guy. Please stop, you're embarassing yourself and can't even see. And you have a girl's name. Sissy.

Someone said, "..what's going on in the world?" I can tell you. Sure there is PLENTY of oil everywhere. The major expense comes in the refining operations. It just so happens that the oil under Saudi is pretty clean and needs litte refinement.

We in the US could produce all our own oil, but gas would probably wind up costing about 10 dollars a gallon. I -- and I would like to hope, everybody here -- would gladly pay that if it meant that Saudi would dry up and blow away, taking its evil cult with it.

But it's probably already too late. Like a virus, the Wahhabis and Salafists of Mohamed's hellhole have infected every major investment in the world: banks, gold, cattle, timber, real estate, everything. They own our government. They hold 8% of our economy, just in cash, not including what they own in stocks, gold, real estate, etc.

Remember that when its time to vote.

Rikki pretends to wonder: ...I can't help wishing that the coalition forces had've carried out their campaign in the House of Saud, far more scum to kill there.

Rikki, don't you remember the LAST time somebody threatened the House of Saud? Bush Sr. sent 500,000 US troops to protect them. It only cost us 100 Billion dollars and 10,000 ordinary lives, plus Bush had an "R" after his name, so who cares? As long as he didn't lie about sex, that's all that matters.

Keith is absolutely correct!

We should have allowed Saddam Hussein to keep Kuwait, and take over Saudi Arabia. Imagine how cheaply we'd be getting our oil now...

Everyone who agrees, raise your hands!

*distant sound of crickets chirping*

Joy Keith (I suspect you reversed your fore and surname for your unimaginative on-screen nickname)
Thats much more masculine now isn't it?
Hands up how many people know a girl called Rikki/Ricky/Ricci (which is short for another really ladylike name: Richard, surprisingly enough Joy)apart from Ricki lake I can't think of many others.Now Joy thats a different story,one of my friends had a prison"bitch" called Joy, and now to "honour"you I'm thinking of naming the next slug I srape off the garden wall "keith" before I pop it in the microwave.

You know fuck-all about me, and never will, exept the lies I whispered in your mothers last night ( and will you tell her next time I'm not paying her the full $5, shes not worth it,the bag I put over her head cost $1).

Oooops Typo:
In your mothers ear

Nasseem:

It is intersting that you use the example of the Ryder Cup in your recent post. I would point out that from your perspective, both sides are infidels, so I'm uncertani about your basic point. As you may know, golf is a game invented by civilized peole and played by civilzed people. The compeition this past weekend showed how civilized people behave both as competitors and fans. Perhaps you can answer me this, "Where is the Muslim Tiger Woods, or Darren Clarke for that matter??" The answer, of course, is that there isn't one since golf is a game played by civilized people, and it has been demonstrated that muslims are anything but civilized. In fact, golf is probably one of the things that you would outlaw in the unlikely event that you foist your odious religion on the rest of us. "Allah says, No More Sunday tee times!" I'll submit to Allah when (to paraphrase Charlton Heston) "you claw my 8 iron from my cold dead hand!"

Way to go Buck!

Rikki, take it easy! Of course I realize KJ will never accept the aid of anyone further right of him than Dan Rather, but Man! You are being a tad over the top today.

btw, I just noticed one of my wife's godparent's relatives came online. They are in Bath, where are you?

My Dear Rikki,

Words are the smallest weapon in my arsenal...

I meant to cast no aspersions upon YOU. My post was directed to the 'world' in general, the same world that sits by and moans and whines but takes no retaliatory or punitive action when muslims turn an elementary school or a pizza parlor or a bus in Israel into a killing field.

I am well aware that words CAN be very effective weapons, but never forget that we are dealing with MUSLIMS now, a sect of people that can make YOU think the word YELLOW means pink and that the word allah means God. You DO know that words have NO meaning or effect or concern or importance to these muslims, don't you?

What I am saying is this: the NEXT time any Jihadist action is taken against 'my' community, there will be retaliation - actions will take place to remove muslims. After 9/11, a Sikh (wearing a turban) in Arizona in the USA was murdered by a man that was considered to be a 'nutcase.' He THOUGHT the man he was killing was a muslim. He was SO angry he felt he HAD to do SOMETHING. Would he have been considered less of a nut if he had actually killed a muslim? I think NOT. Next time WILL be different. Mosques WILL be destroyed, and unfortunately, I'm sure many 'innocent' muslims will be hurt or worse (caveat: is ANY muslim 'innocent?' THEY say all infidels and ALL Americans are legitimate targets for death.)

My directive is different. I don't feel that muslims should be dragged out of their homes and killed. I don't think mosques should be burned. I DO, however, feel that individuals that incite ANY people to commit acts of inhumanity in the name of islam should be methodically hunted down and eliminated. Not martyred, just DISAPPEAR. The bastard in London, the bastards at the organization in the USA that claims to be a civil rights organization but is not, these types of people need to vanish. These bastards need to be living under the knowledge that IF YOU INCITE KILLING IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, you WILL be a target. They have an absolute free pass right now, they can say ANYTHING and nothing will happen to them. Is that because we're a civilized society and won't assasinate them? Israel is a civilized society, but Mossad has done what needed to be done, and more than once. It's past time that the rest of the civilized world do the same - hold a conference and call for the killing of Jews or the killing of infidels and you are from then on a MARKED MAN. Go into hiding, because your 'disappearance' will be imminent.

That's a good post Yahudimrevenge.....Amen.....they need to disappear. Mafia style.......put them in the car, and take them for their final ride......This would certainly set an example for the less bold Muslim asswipes among us.

And, if there is another attack on our soil, it will certainly spell the end of the term "American Muslims"

DCW
there is a Alagtor loose in the south and is real hungery?

John Kerry is a saint
John Kerry was scheduled to visit the Catholic National Cathedral outside Washington as part of his campaign. Kerry's campaign manager made a visit to the Cardinal and said to him, "We've been getting a lot of bad publicity among Catholics because of Kerry's position on abortion and the like. We'd gladly make a contribution to the church of $100,000 if during your sermon you'd say John Kerry is a saint."

The Cardinal thinks it over for a few moments and finally says, "The Church is in desperate need of funds and I will agree to do it."

Kerry pompously shows up looking especially smug today and as the Mass progresses the Cardinal begins his homily.

"John Kerry is petty, a self absorbed, hypocrite and a nitwit. He is a liar, a cheat, and a low intelligence weasel. He wrote a book and portrayed himself in the best light when he was a traitor to his fellow servicemen. He has lied about his military record and had the gall to put himself in for a medal. He married for money and is using it to lie to the American people. He is the worst example of a Catholic I've ever personally known. But compared to Ted Kennedy, John Kerry is a saint."


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and All who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to Kill the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to the Threat Amen

PS
Posted by: yahudimrevenge at September 20, 2004 02:15 PM

Does cutting off Armstrongs head with a dull knief count?

Gary,
I'm was in a lousy mood when I read KJ's comments and he was in the wrong place at the wrong tome.

I've been getting so frustrated lately at the lefts unwillingness to recognise a threat more obvious than a cobra spitting venom.
As you know I have my over the top days, but if KJ provokes me ; whatever mood I'm in , he's getting it back.

YahudimRevenge,
I'm right on your wavelength man!!!
Please realise though that I am not a racist person, I have Indian relatives myself (hindus and christian) and many black and jewish friends.

Islam is the only religion I have any kind of contempt for, believe it!!!

I believe this world would be a better place without it.The muslim children can be saved (by education and conversion), most adults though are too far gone in the islamic brain-washing process .

Catherine:

I LOVED that joke ! ! !