An about-face. From Expatica, with thanks to Anthony:
BERLIN - The German government - in a policy shift - said Wednesday it will seek to ban a planned Islamic conference in Berlin billed by organisers as being aimed at "American and Zionist Nazism.""The Federal Interior Ministry will do everything possible to see that this congress does not take place," said Rainer Lingenthal, chief spokesman for German Interior Minister, Otto Schily.
Lingenthal declined to say what measures were planned to prevent the meeting from taking place.
Initially the federal government said it was up to the city of Berlin to decide whether to ban the convention - but local officials declined to take action.
The "First Arab, Islamic Congress in Europe", scheduled for 1 to 3 October in the German capital, has been slammed by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, an international Jewish human rights group, which wants the meeting banned.
Islamic congress organisers declare in their manifesto that people invited to take part are those wanting to make "an intensive contribution ... to the world's resistance movement against the American and Zionist Nazism."
Unfortunate, in many ways. They should have allowed it, found some way to broadcast it as widely as possible to the general public, and invited various intelligence agencies in to watch for wanted individuals.
"The Federal Interior Ministry will do everything possible to see that this congress does not take place," said Rainer Lingenthal, chief spokesman for German Interior Minister, Otto Schily.
Lingenthal declined to say what measures were planned to prevent the meeting from taking place.
Why is it that anytime that something as obnoxious as a meeting like this in Western countries needs to be cancelled, there has to be loads of consulting?
This is where the terror laws need to be more specific. Goodness knows that anytime someone says "Islam is evil" the full weight of the law seems to be applied without any hesitation, and swifter than lion on a lame deer.
The problem is they know this weakness.
I personally would have liked it to go ahead.
No doubt that intellengence would have seen all the faces and bugged it to see what was was said. .....some good may have come from it.
I have no doubt that the people who would have been coming to the conference would have known this anyway!
All that will happen now is that meetings will now take place in secret and muslims will complain as being victimised (which in this case they have been)!
What is it at a conference that you are all so frightened of anyway?
Naseem,
If that last comment was supposed to be on the "apologist" tip then you totally screwed it up with that last 2 sentences.
I'm sure you'll be among the "poor, victimized" muslims complaining about "discrimmmination".
When you say some good may have come of it do you mean that ,had it gone ahead, a massive terror-tide would have washed across europe ( another goal scored for satans minions).
You try to convince us you're against extremists but at the same time think you can dupe us into believing every word you say, despite the fact that some of your snidey little comments point the opposite direction.
These scumbags where plotting and scheming against the west in the west (nothing new, but why the fuck should we let you do it , when we know in advance that thats what the agenda is - I know europe probably has a rep for being "stupid Kafir/infidels" but they're not that gullible/moronic ,a misconception which your lunatic-cousins continually make).
If you want to do some good why don't you go and convince the zombies over at al-muhajiroun that they'd best cut the shit or the british alliance or going to stomp their faces off, or better still become a suicide bomber, I've heard it's a Blast!!!
Naseem,
Another question:
We let you flood into our country like locusts, we give you homes (even though there are kids on the streets who are actually british) , benefits/money, jobs (well we offer you them, few are taken-well by muslims anyway),we let you build your stinking satan worshipper shrines (oh sorry- Mosks) in our cities, and you all still have the gall to make out as though you are the victims of discrimmination .
The most sickening thing about this is that you hypocritical bastards can't stand jews,christians,hindus,buddhists (or any other religion, race or culture), being in any muslim country, and the ones that are are either persecuted or annihilated, their places of worship burnt down, their rights taken away, their families killed or beaten (or in the case of Israel, you expect them to up and leave, something that would be out of the question if the british demanded the same of you from Bradford or Birmingham), you people are the most vile racist parasites on the planet, and without you maybe at long last their would be peace on earth.
So Ner Ner!!! (Thats a little finishing touch from the love of my life).
Naseem, I'm disappointed. I thought you were more intelligent than your remarks indicate. Why is it that when anyone wants the Muslim racists monitored and kept in check (since they're liars and sneaks and can't be trusted), the accusation from Muslims is that we fear Islam? Kiss our asses.
This is set to be a gathering of assholes bent on creating havoc on the civilized world. Any sane person should want this congress banned. You Muslims are a ridiculous, backwards ass band of illiterate inbreeders, not intelligent enough to get out of your own way, let alone succeed in your quest to dominate the world.
Yep, I'm sure of it. clowns, the lot of you.
You are right naseem. They should have let it go ahead to see if the fundamentalists would blow themselves up. Now we will have to wait and see if they blow up a pre-school instead.
Does anyone really expect anything better from Naseem who, a few days ago, was so gormless as to suggest that all of the Iraqis lined up to apply for positions with the police/security forces might have been spared had they been literate enough to mail in resumes/applications, and suggest,if somewhat indirectly, that the jihadist rein of terror that mascarades as opposition to the "occupation" did everyone a favour by eliminating these poor, unqualified illiterates as prospective police officers.
Naseem: loosen up the hejab. Clearly, it's cutting off the oxygen that your heart is supposed to be pumping from your lungs to your brain.
Here is a question for you naseem...
After Islam's profound ability (refering to your hinted ego), to trick and lie and confuse the West and you come to that glorious day where Islam rules the world, how will you keep it operating as it does now?
My point is, just like your barbaric tactics your ultimate goal is very short sighted. Your suicide attacks, your killing of children in the name of your god, your car bombs, they all push your cause farther and farther from legitimacy to the billions around the world who are civilized. Islam thinks it can infiltrate all the civilized, wealthy and advanced countries around the world, like Germany, and overthrow the government and take power...So after that happens, how will keep those countries advanced?
Your religion has failed to bring millions upon millions of people into the 15th century, let alone the 21st century. So have you thought how you might keep the advanced society you love to secretly enjoy, operating and advancing have they have for decades?
My answer is you, and your leaders haven't thought of that. You are to busy answering your bloodlust for war and conquest as Allah teaches you. You continue to believe you will achieve victory simply because you are willing to be more inhumane than your enemy. Americans are giving their lives in Iraq, only to prove to those who think the US is about smart bombs and won't stick out a slugfest. Well, their tactic is working because all kinds of Muslims in Iraq have a new found respect and admiration for Americans because they are meeting them and watching their work.
In other words, they are getting a glimpse of civilization and a close up look at why the US is so powerful. It is not in tanks and smart weapons, it is that their beliefs in freedom is being seen as STRONGER than your threats of death, beheading and slavery to your Islam. Nothing is achieved by killing 50 Iraqi's waiting in line to enforce the belief that they don't want Islam ruling their country. All that attack did was lengthen the lines at those recruitment centers in the future. More will see it, more will feel it and more will see that following Islam is a first class ticket on an express train to the past...
Moose
Naseem,
I'll ask you once again - maybe you didn't see my last post to you: Where are you? I want to meet with you face to face and chat with you. How can I meet with you?
yahudimrevenge:
Naseem said that she is in Lahore, Pakistan, but visits Britain frequently and grew up there.
It's a real shame that no one has the guts to tell these people face to face that they are exploiting their religion (and we recognize that) .. this religion they so ardently profess and protect from kufaar influence and, sice that is being done, such meetings will not take place on the soil of free countries. This is, after all, a war on global terrorism and these people represent terrorism under the sham of this "discussion agenda" of their proposed conference. Islamic apologists make me weary.
Nevertheless, L'Shaunah Tovah.
Naseem,
If you want to have the Congress in Europe, why not Paris or Madrid? I was going to suggest Egypt, but then it would not be the "FA,IC in Europe".
And the title: The First Arab, Islamic ... . Does this mean that African, Indian sub-continent, and Asian-Pacific Muslims aren't welcome?
(Mr.) jay
Why cancel? A better alternative is to throw the meeting open to all the terror organizers, then arrest them all and turn them over to Israel.
My first choice would be to interogate them vigorously until every scrap of information was wrung out of them, then shoot the lot.
Ah well. It's an imperfect world.
To Quote CNN
“Intelligence report: Iraq prospects bleak”
Compare the Axis powers after the Second World War and Iraq after the invasion.
Fed up with the oppressive Nazi regime, Western Germans looked to rebuild their country, kicked off the yoke of the dictatorship, embraced democracy and once again became a major political power in the world, while enjoying a first class standard of living,
Much the same for the Japanese where this industrious people created a capitalistic and democratic oasis out of the ash that was the Empire of the Sun
Even little Viet Nam embraced a capitalist-like and peaceful society and has opened its doors to the world.
But Not Iraq - No sireeee- bob - Not Iraq
Muslims there will not be quelled with peace and prosperity
• Why have peace and prosperity, when you can have almighty Jihad?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity when your 67 virgins await your death?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity when you can huddle in mud huts?
• Why have peace and prosperity, when it is so much more fun to blow up little children airplanes, churches, office buildings and cut the heads off Christians and Jews?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity, if your cult-like beliefs are not being crammed down the throats of the infidel?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity when you can allow a bunch of senile old bastards using 1400 year old hate literature to do your thinking for you?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity when you can scream about your ill treatment at the hands of the infidel?
• Why have Peace and Prosperity if others also have peace and prosperity?
The contempt that grows as the secrets of Islam are revealed is staggering.
There are no excuses for Islam - it is by its very being, evil.
Dress up a pig – it is still a pig.
The CNN head line should have read:
"Iraq Report: Bleak Prospects for Intelligence"
TORO
I think this Terror Congress in Berlin should not be banned, but rather looked on as a target of opportunity. Let these people have their fun. Come on in, folks!
Then: Lock the doors, take down ID info, send anyone found on a certain "list" on a one-way trip straight back to whatever sand heap they like. Examine the rest from top to toe, photograph them, take fingerprints, separate them from their buddies, sweat them under the naked lightbulb for a day or two, arrange for follow-up visits to their homes, and so forth...
Crisis = opportunity.
How about a few panty-hats and butt pyramids?
"naked lightbulb"?
Surley we can be more creative.
Dress these maggots up in pig costumes and make them sing the Israeli national anthem.
Would say German Govt had lots of unflattering feedback which always worries Politicians when it comes to counting votes. Better hurry up, the conference date isn't far away.
Re : Al Margarine 9/11 conference [to celebrate the deaths and injuries of victims and exult perpetrators] this got cancelled. Reason according
to 'Friends Hall', they didn't know it was notorious Al Mahajirioun group who were renting their building as Omar Bakri & Co had applied under the name of 'Birmingham Youth!!' Once they knew, refused to let hall to Al Margarinies...
OT somewhat, BUT ---
CAIR has scheduled a conference to be held Oct. 10th at the Marriot Wardman Park Hotel in Washington, D.C. (2660 Woodley Rt. NW )
Wouldn't this be a GREAT opportunity to do some protesting/activist activities??!!
Now granted, I'm a leftist liberal PC 5th column scum (fill in the blanks here...The adjectives exhaust me) but I was raised on the tradition that when you see something wrong, or you have a political point to make, you make it known. If I lived in the East, you'd bet that I would be there!!!!
OT somewhat, BUT ---
CAIR has scheduled a conference to be held Oct. 10th at the Marriot Wardman Park Hotel in Washington, D.C. (2660 Woodley Rt. NW )
Wouldn't this be a GREAT opportunity to do some protesting/activist activities??!!
Now granted, I'm a leftist liberal PC 5th column scum (fill in the blanks here...The adjectives exhaust me) but I was raised on the tradition that when you see something wrong, or you have a political point to make, you make it known. If I lived in the East, you'd bet that I would be there!!!!
I too vote for letting them hold the conference just to see what they have to say. Of course getting names and photos. What could it hurt? We've heard it all before.
Whoops!! They changed the date on me. It's now slated for October 2nd. 2660 Woodley Road, Marriot Wardman Park Hotel, NW Washington, D.C.
C'mon, anti-jihadists!!!!
If we don't have a voice, we have nothing.
Six to 10 p.m. Make your banners NOW!!! Practice what you will say to the press. And DON'T be violent!!! Remember, we don't want to drag ourselves down to their level.
If Palestinians (Arafat) did not get so much support from Europe, and then average deprived Palestinians would finally think about overthrowing Arafat & doing something positive about their situation, like stop the Jihad & resist outside Jihad groups supported by other Muslim countries. European counties, such as Germany & especially France, submit to their Islamic Overlords back home. European leaders continue to do a disservice to their citizens. Guess they don’t mind their daughters getting raped by packs of North Africans Muslims either.
Kafira:
Absolutely correct.
No point being armchair anti-jihadis, folks. When push comes to shove, we gotta get up and shove up their orifices. How many of us are there in DC? Even a token protest involving a handful of protestors is a start.
Right websites will ensure enough coverage.
As for banners - I'm actually thinking on the lines of using a wee bit of taqiyya on these dorks. How about banners like
" Rights for apostates! "
" CAIR defends child killers! "
" CAIR hand in glove with terrorists! "
" CAIR hates America "
No doubt CAIR will spew the usual rant that the
99.97 percent of the bad Muslims outside of America shouldn't be used to stereotype the
.03 percent of the "Good" Muslim within America.
Lets not blame the actions of the majority on the peaceful tolerant minority that are the "Real" Muslims and "True" followers of
a mysogynistic pedophile.
"The german government is seeking to ban the islamic congress"....seems like an odd choice of words,more like a reluctancy of taking action.
What is there to seek?!
Just ban it.Period.
As soon as the european christians will be allowed to have a congress in Saudi Arabia,the muslims can have their congress in Europe.... Or better yet,let the congress take place and arrest all the participants, send them to Guantanamo Bay for an undefinite period of time.
Maybe what we should do is invite all the islamists to a giant fundi head banging party. Then put a giant wall around them and let them get at each other. Walling of the west bank is working really well for Israel. Also we could have video cameras all over the place so we could record all the disgusting things going on inside the fence and braodcast it as a reality tv show. It would be great show...a sort of gladiator/ted bundy/charles manson/spring time for Hilter hybrid.
Hello everybody,
Nice to see that you are all on form! Right up front I would like to say that those people/ terrorists are not my people ....they are nobody's. Your continual persistence to link me with them is ...ridiculous....you can trust me!
Ms. Adel says "As soon as the european christians will be allowed to have a congress in Saudi Arabia,the muslims can have their congress in Europe"
You have loads of meeting about all manner of things...in the green zone in Iraq.
I have a "beef" with some of the things that you have said and will respond if time permits...meetings to go to...
"Oh my...some infedels will be there too..what am I going to do, whay am I going to say ...convert? ofcourse not...I'm going to talk about setting up another office for a Western company here....great fun" !
Naseem, are you coming out as an apostate? They are "not your people"? But do they not revere Allah and his prophet? Do you renounce Mohammedism? There is hope in the digital heartland! Please watch your back, we've learned what happens to apostates of Islam.
It would be best to allow the congress to meet...then they can't play the discrimination card. And besides, why not allow them all to congregate in one place? ;)