They say they didn't carry out the Beslan atrocities, but they did down the airliners, and they are promising more. From Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, with thanks to Nicolei:
The murky group calling itself the Islambouli Brigades issued a call on 9 September to "all our cells in every region of Russia to launch a destructive war." The text of the message as reproduced in English on the globalterroralert.com website reads:"The war is coming, if Allah wills it...we in the Islambouli Brigades call on all our cells in every region of Russia to launch a destructive war in the face of the infidels in Russia, and to target every place the same way that the evil Putin has declared that he has targeted every Muslim in the world and the Islamic land of Chechnya. O' Putin, everyone who lives in Russia will hear the sound of our response, and your nation will taste the hellfire as long as you thirst for the blood of Muslims and the Muslims in Chechnya...and until you withdraw from your cemetery that lies in the Islamic land of Chechnya.
"We in the Islambouli Brigades have put our words into action previously on the ground in Moscow and in the sky over Russia, and we declare that this infidel country will be a target for us in the coming endless wave of operations, if Allah wills it."
The group has denied responsibility for the recent attack on the school in Beslan, North Ossetia, but, in statements on the Internet, it has reiterated that it was responsible for the attacks that downed two Russian airliners on 24 August and the 31 August suicide bombing outside a subway station in Moscow that killed nine people.
This war consists of suicidal martyr complex Jihadis killing Infidels by the hundreds; men, women and even children, while we can only take action against the few Jihadis who may have survived. This is the reality of asymmetric warfare. Such a war cannot go on indefinitely. It will lead to disaster for us.
The reality is, that all wars are wars are fought by opposing ideas, held by national or other groups. Our soldiers or the enemy's Jihadis are merely the pointy bit. That is why the Jihadis hit our main strategic centre, the civilians. And it is for this reason we were not averse to bomb Germany and Japan.
No opponent will consider himself defeated unless he has felt pain. So far in this war we (Infidel civilians), have been feeling the pain, while the ummah has been getting away free.
We stood shoulder to shoulder with the Russians in WW2, we will do it again.
The muslims should remember that the Nazis' of WW2, when it came to their defeat, ran to the Americans because they knew the Russians would not treat with any humanity.
From the "Eagle" to the "Bear".......Lets roll!
Rave on Islambouli Brigades.The great Russian Bear is awake and will crush many of you to death in his embrace. We will finish off the rest!
Send the Chechnians the bill for the infrastructure Russia built for them during the Soviet era, the cost of the independence movement, and the cost of the Russians' lives lost in the conflict. Mine the border between Russia and Chechnya and then give them their independence. Send the bill for the mines, too.
saudi thugs ?
Beslan Siege Was Work of al Qaeda Cell from… Kabardino-Balkaria
http://debka.com/article.php?aid=903
Don't make a mistake and get hung up on which country they come from, which sect they represent, which immam they follow, etc., as regardless of what they call themselves, they all bat for the same team, with the objective of world domination. The only true loyalty is the umma.
I have to admit that I have always thought Putin to be an interloping loper with a desire of total power.
After hearing the news today of Putin wanting to appoint governors of his own choosing, my suspicions seem founded.
Is the Beslan tragedy a pretext for another aspiring dictator?
My apologies, folks. Taking a slight diversion here:
Seems Pkaistan was poised to actually use a nuke against India in 1999 (talk about jihadi restraint). Its Prime minister, one Nawaz Sharif, rushed to Washington DC, (uninvited btw), and begged Clinton for any concessions he could make to his military so that the nuke crisis could be averted. This reads like a fairytale. Truly, sometimes truth can be stranger than fiction....
Read it all here:
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=4506
Whatever one thinks of Putin, or for that matter whatever one thinks of the regime in Beijing were it faced with a revolt by Muslim Uighurs in Xinjiang, one at this point has to side with those who are attempting to contain the most potent and dangerous enemy of the West, of our own wellbeing. Even those who most hated Stalin, the Russian emigres who were in the line of old-fashioned liberals (Constitutional Democrats), had no trouble wishing for Stalin's forces to be supported to the hilt; it was only the fascists in the Russian emigration, the Krasnovtsy, or followers of General Krasnov, who supported and aided the Germans. Nowadays, there is no choice: one has to side with all those who, whatever the seemingly local grievances, are in fact under attack by Jihadis worldwide. That Jihad may be violent, as in Kashmir, Israel, Chechnya, the southern Sudan, the Moluccas, or it may take other forms (the successful infiltration, by pro-Muslim forces, of both the U.N. and the E.U. bureacracy, and of the major media in much of Western Europe), including the steady rise in Muslim migrants to lands whose way of life, whose society, whose politics, whose manners and moeurs, they deplore and would eliminate altogether if they had a chance -- and they hope to get that chance.
The real question is: will those who have no faith at all to stiffen their opposition to the imposition of Islam, nonetheless find some faith in what may be called free inquiry, or artistic creation, or whatever it is whose sum is Western civilization and which would not last for one minute under Islam, and could never have been created under Islam. Will those people at least show some gratitude to those who created and left as a legacy what can still be discerned, between the ads for Access Hollywood and the checkout counter magazines announcing O. J. Simpson's encounter of a third kind with Paris Hilton, as something worth preserving.
Warning to link cruisers:
Others have mentioned:
Do not open ‘any’ links left by Muslims, they have viruses,
The viruses are not detectable by average software.
These folks are trying to disrupt our way of life.
Warning to Muslims:
The war on terror is a warm-up, next is the war on Islam,
Muslims will be assumed guilty until proven innocent.
This is not the first time the rules had to be reversed for some of us.
Hugh states:
"...one at this point has to side with those who are attempting to contain the most potent and dangerous enemy of the West, of our own wellbeing."
You will not find myself disagreeing on this point, but I still find Russia and recently, the Soviet Union to have not been kindly to the West - vis a vis - the United States.
I also find Putin's attempt, as you are totally aware, at "absolute power" to be quite disturbing - almost mafioso in its criminality.
The Russian stance of helping the Iranian mullah-f*ckers in their goal of attaining a nuclear prowess in the region is indicative of a "stab in the back" politician who not only "foresees" his own glory, but lacks a vision (or a care) for his own people.
THIS is not only a threat to US, but to the Middle East and the world.
My question: Will the Russian populus give him this power?
I believe it to be a major concern and threat to all of our existence.
The Russians are still angry with our bombing of Belgrade which made no sense to them because Milosovic was really the first to fight Osma who had been in and out of Albania.
This might explain their willingness to do business with Iran -- to keep the US in check.
Beslan has change things. This is a very dangerous turn of events and Putin must deal with the situation and fast.
Lets hope Putin crushes them, but I do believe he has his plate full for the time being.
HUGH
You are so right! We might feel a trifle uneasy at
Purin's methods at times [or China's for that matter] but we can't afford PC Niceness. In reality it is these methods Muslims FEAR whilst they regard America and the West as A SOFT TOUCH... Putin is already speaking about bringing back the Death Penalty - so should rest of the world be doing the same. This global war - AND WAR IT IS WILL NOT BE WON BY DEMOCRATIC ASPIRATIONS OR PC CORRECTNESS. If Eurabia is half lost already, we will be glad of Putin's stance.
As soon as a dirty bomb is used, we won't care,everyone will realise the survival of our civilization depends on whether we fight Islam or allow ourselved to become enslaved and defeated by enemies who care nothing about PC correctness or how many Infidels they kill...
It is interesting that in all times in history the west when threatned with totalitarian threats only ever intervened to stop these movements at the last possible moment. I often hear about how people lamented that Hitler was not killed in 1933 to stop world war 2...most people beleived appeasement of Hitler would work. Instead appeasement just ensured a much grander disaster 6 years later.
I fear what will happen is that the west will only shake off its pathological dysfunctional political correctness at literally the eve of total war as it did in the 1930's. I fear the possibility that europe will become completely balkanised in a few decades if muslims living in europe continue to grow in numbers, and too many of them become increasinly islamist and refuse to integrate with all the other europeans (white and non-white).
I forsee many people in european countries may feel that politically correct democracy/parties have failed them and so as a result they may be seduced/tempted out of complete despair to give martail law to military leaders to save them from Islamism. In the 1930's people in Germany elected a dictator to free them from a (FALSE/non-existant) perceived threat...that of perceived world jewish domination. However now many muslims/islamists are CLEARLY AND LOUDLY open about their (REAL) totalitarian threats to europe. Unlike the jews of the 1930's the islamists in europe ARE saying to the west like Kruschev "We will burry you". I fear europeans will vote in future Milosevics. I fear europeans will vote for the devil if at the end of the day the devil is the only one promising to save them. I hope this doesn't happen...I don't want it too..but I am afraid it might. I beleive that europe could become a total war ridden basketcase like it has been numerous times before.
History always seems to repeat itself. Only those without wisdom say that it doesn't...and there are alot of unwise people (Islamist appologists/appeasers) in the west today.
P.S. the link below leads to an EXCELLENT article in the Spectator magazine on how politically correct europe and the west is refusing (and failing) to face up to the Islamist threat.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php?table=old§ion=current&issue=2004-09-11&id=4987
The US,Europe,Russia,Israel,India,China, and Japan must all unite together to crush this evil army of hateful savages, and cleanse the earth of it for good. The more I think about it ,the more I see articles such as this daily , and the anti-western bull that comes infuriatingly from the lips of liberal do-gooders, the more I realise the only solution is total eradication of every last trace of this vile cult.
Mr Rikki of the UK says "I realise the only solution is total eradication of every last trace of this vile cult".
Now come on, surely that is a touch extreme. Look at me, do you think that people like me would carry out terrorist ops...surely not ...you can trust me....I may have a different opinion and outlook to you but why so extreme.
You know when christianity was being reformed, that took time and lots of unfortunate beings dying.
The same will happen for Islam, when muslim countries stop getting invaded, when the Palestanin children stop being needlessly killed, this will happen.
Muslims are not blind or deaf (or immune to death)they see what goes on. That is not say that all is perfect in the muslim world, we have some pretty crappy leaders who are more interested in themseles rather than their people, but given time this will change. There are far fewer dictators today than a centuary back and this trend will continue.
In the mean time we need more people like Blair and Bush who are defenders of Islam (ironically better defenders of Islam than say... Saddam).
What we don't need is the publicity of Mr. Rikki's type of extreme language...so please stop it...say something nice about us ...for a change.
Naseem,
It has got to the point now were I fear for the safety of my family and kids because we have far too many extreme muslims in close proximity (ie-in the UK).
Am I saying that all the UKs muslims are terrorists? NO!
But the "minority" of muslims that hold the extreme views , who despise westerners (British, american or otherwise) are among the rest of the muslims who I might add, tend to agree with what the extremists are doing and saying, or refuse to take any kind of action to counter them whether that be out of fear or the fact that they secretly condone it, and despise westerners themselves.
At the end of the day Naseem, when the right opportunity comes for islamic jihadists to take control of the UK (which by my reckoning will be in about 50 to 100 years time when muslims represent a significant portion if not a majority population of the UK) the so called "moderates" among them will happily go along with this. And don't try and bullshit me by saying this is unrealistic or that even if this did happen you'd be against it, because I long agao stopped believing such apologist nonsense.
As I've said many times before Naseem, I dislike muslims for a very good reason, I can see right through you all and I don't trust any of you.
Naseem
Trust you!!!???---Who the hell are you?
That son of a burkha wearing bitch, Mohammed Atta told the people on his plane to just sit back and be quiet and you’ll be ok. Trusting him cost those souls their lives
I am sorry, Muslims have used up all of the trust and good will the West ever gave them.
Trusting Islam has only got the world into a hell of a mess.
There will be no trust for Islam until it is on its knees begging for mercy
God bless you Rikki
Toro
Naseem, as for your last comment:
What we don't need is the publicity of Mr. Rikki's type of extreme language...so please stop it...say something nice about us ...for a change.
You've come to , totally, the wrong place if you're looking for praise.
Here we expose the evil plans of the death cult, and the extreme practitioners of it, and our eyes are wide open to taqiyya and other such deceitful islamic tactics.
Perhaps for a more unimformed and gullible take on islam you should visit one of the more ignorant leftist sites such as Amnesty International.
They'll have the red carpet rolled out for you, but not here sweetheart.
Naseem,
One more point, as I've just said it is a common belief that not all muslims condone what the extremists do.
However I am still standing my ground that the only safe option for the future of the UK (or any other western country that have allowed these ungodly parasites asylum) is deportation of every last muslim.
Only then can we be thoroughly certain that all of the islamic extremists are gone with them.You may think this extreme or racist (again islam ain't no race), whatever, I couldn't give 2 shits, for the safety of my children, family, people and country I'd say it's a small price too pay.
Whenever was it said that Britain has to take on the problems (self inflicted at best) of the middle east and Pakistan, by allowing their people to pile into our land in uncontrolled numbers? True; the PC societies of the west are probably the only ones soft enough but that doesn't mean that we have to sit and watch our own countries self-destruct.
Can I ask once more Naseem, why you are so adament that the US coalition "occupiers" leave Iraq, and Israelis leave their own country becauser arab muslims don't want infidels and zionists on "their holy land", yet it is wrong for me to declare my belief that the UKs muslims are occupiers and I want them gone???
It's the same principal Naseem.
Mr Toro, your bullish comments don't really help!
"who are you?", well I am a muslim woman brought up in the UK and now living in Lahore, Pakistan, I do come and go to the UK.
Mr. Rikki, a lot can happen in 50-100 years. As the muslim population live and settle in the UK they will reform somewhat (already the british muslims are different to Pakistani muslims, a lot of them don't want to marry muslims from Pakistan anymore, it seems to be a values thing)!!!
It is true that our current crop of muslim leaders have made mistakes, they have reared snakes that they cannot control, but one day they will have to or be devoured themselves. I too hate terrorism (but not Islam) and so do my friends.
You can rest assured that even if we have a muslim prime minister in the UK in the future , he/she could not get elected if the muslims felt fear in the UK. All will be safe.
As for your final point about wanting Israel out of Palestanin land or Iraq, yes as occupiers they should go, but I have never advocated Israel to be pushed into the sea....they are part of our history and heritage. I do ask for the Pals to have thier land back because we can then see a way forward in that part of the world.
And as for us being in the UK, there is a difference...we were invited...by the government of the day to do the work you didn't want to...and now we have settled..we contribute to society ( I think the mayor of Bradford is a muslim)...so there....upwards and onwards.
Naseem
So you are a woman in Pakistan…I could care less!
The point is, why on earth should the West TRUST anything that Islam has to say. Trust is something that has to be earned not granted as a right.
Your damn right my comments are bullish, the unrelenting terror in the world, the killing of little children, the bombing of planes, the WTC, Spain, Indonesia the more than 8,000 incidents of terrorism perpetrated by Muslims in the last twenty some odd years together with the deafening quiet from the great Muslim silent majority (if it exists at all) is enough for me to loath the so call “Peaceful Religion of Islam”.
To earn respect, Muslims will have to learn to love their children more than they hate the West and perhaps for the first time join the human race.
Do not hide behind a skirt Naseem. Black Widows blew up planes in Russia and your gender tells me nothing. It certainly won’t allow me to “Trust” you.
And don’t presume that Toro is not a woman.
As for Palestinians, who the hell said the land was theirs – Certainly NOT history. Seems to me your true colors are just below the surface.
Toro
No Islam Know Peace
Since you're a Pakistani-Brit, lemme ask you one question:
Run a cursory compare across migrant south asian (Hindus and Sikhs from India, Buddhists from Sri lanka and Moslems from Pak and B'desh) communities for
[1] income
[2]education
[3]family size
[4]tax contributions to society
[5]crime statistics etc
and voila!
It turns out that the Hindus and Sikhs from colonial India have done so well that they match or beat the national average in all these indicators (low family size & low crime stats being positive indicators here). How come its ONLY the moslems from pak and Bangladesh who're ill-educated, unemployed, parasites on welfare, violent and criminally oriented...
Surely, I'd be surprised if islam has nothing to with it. Don't shift the blame to 'bad leaders' etc, they're merely symptoms of the underlying disease - islam.
Call it human nature, but it seems like people have a natural gravitation towards backing the winning horse. And the so-called moderate moslems right now still believe that jihad is the stronger horse in its insidious, underhanded, asymmetrical war against western governments and now, even societies.
Like Putin said, "The weak get trampled upon" and the jihadis understand only the language of force. Naseem, and people like you are feeding upon the weaknesses of western civility. But not for long.... The clock is ticking and you've done well to hedge your bets by moving to Lahore part of the time.
Naseem,
Your comment:
already the british muslims are different to Pakistani muslims, a lot of them don't want to marry muslims from Pakistan anymore, it seems to be a values thing... expresses just ONE of the evils that intelligent people have come to understand: since you muslims love to kill even other muslims that aren't "your kind" of muslims, why would we want any longer to assimilate you into our PEACEFUL communities?
Unlike Rikki, Toro or any other contributor here in Jihad Watch, I'll tell you like it is: many want you DEAD, you and all the other muslim liars like you who THINK you can fool ALL of the people ALL of the time.
Guess again, Naseem. If some could find you, some would love nothing more than to slice your muslim head off and post the video on the internet. The day WILL come, Naseem. Keep looking over your shoulder. The time WILL come, and maybe in YOUR lifetime.
Yahudimrevenge:
Your frustation shows through clearly in your last post. But we also need to retain our humanity (what's the point in replacing one set of animals with another if we too were to becoe like them?)
Besides which, outright calls for explicit murder is not only uncivil (when uttered by non jihadis), it also invites the 'hatemonger' tag onto this wonderful site.
Let's preserve what we have and strengthen it.
voletti,
I'm not frustrated. Just angry. Angry I couldn't stop hitler when I a chance to. Angry that, as several posters here have mentioned, these bastards are TELLING us they want to kill us, say they WILL kill or subject us, ala mein kampf, but they still live and breath. Unlike hitler, if these bastards are eliminated NOW, as soon as they speak up and incite rabid muslims to be even more villianous, who KNOWS what the world will be spared.
I DO call for outright killings of these types of arrogant inciters. Hate has nothing to do with it (although I do hate them) -- reality and the world's survival are at stake. I do agree with you regarding replacing one set of animals with another but this is a job that needs to be done. I'll tell you that I would have gladly DIED killing hitler if I had the opportunity. I wouldn't want to die today killing a Mohammad Smith or Ali Jones or Saad Johnson. But I would peacefully die while eliminating OBL or Sami Al-Arian or Ayman al-Zawahiri or Omar Bakri.
Thank God for people who are willing to destroy their own lives for the betterment of the world - there are more than quite a few whose stories you'll never know.