Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer on conversion and freedom on conscience in Human Events:
As the world recoils in horror at the massacres of children by Chechen jihadists in Beslan, Russia, security agencies are examining the possibility that such an attack could happen in an American school. And why couldn't it? After all, at a conference held last weekend, security was tight because of death threats from people holding the same ideology as that of the Beslan barbarians: radical Islam. The conference was held in Falls Church, Virginia.That's right: Falls Church, Virginia. Right here in America, converts from Islam to Christianity spoke publicly only under assumed names, for fear of becoming the newest victims of the global jihad. The conference was called the Muslim Background Believers Convention, an evangelical Christian gathering sponsored by groups including the Baptist General Association of Virginia. The converts from Islam, according to a Washington Times report, spoke "only under fictitious names assumed for the occasion."
The Times noted that "the convention kept the registration and entrance process under tight security to protect the participants, many of whom say they face death threats or ostracism from their families for leaving the Islamic faith."
Why did they have to take this extraordinary precaution in the land of the free? Because in traditional Islamic law, for a Muslim to convert to another faith brings a death sentence. This is not, mind you, "extremist" Islam. It is the Islamic mainstream, based on a statement of Muhammad: "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." It's also based on a statement of the Qur'an: "But whoever of you recants and dies an unbeliever, his works shall come to nothing in this world and the next, and they are the companions of the fire for ever" (Sura 2:217). This has been widely interpreted by traditional Muslim commentators as giving sanction to the death penalty for apostates -- which they derive from the verse's assertion that the apostate's work will "come to nothing in this world" as well as the next.
When converts are not killed, they are otherwise pressured. The organizer of the conference has felt the force of this firsthand: "I was called by my embassy and told I'd better repent or I could not go back home with my family." Another convert reported that she had not yet told her family that she had become a Christian. "I know they're going to disown me," she said, "if they don't kill me." In America.
These people have to live in fear because of the long-entrenched and continuing unwillingness on the part of American authorities to face up to the realities of Islam. Law enforcement officials either haven't known or haven't cared that Islam mandates the death penalty for those who leave the religion. They assumed, if they knew that this provision existed at all, that Muslims who settled in the United States would discard it and accept the parameters and principles of American secularism.
And many have. But many haven't, and it is time that fact be acknowledged. This is especially tough for Westerners, however, since the concept of apostasy is so foreign to today's secular society. As the great ex-Muslim Ibn Warraq noted in a statement read for him last year before the United Nations Commission on Human Rights (he could not appear in person because of threats on his life arising from the same Islamic principles): "The very notion of apostasy has vanished from the West … There are certainly no penal sanctions for converting from Christianity to any other religion." However, one who leaves Islam, he explains, "can be seen as someone unnatural, subverting the natural course of things whose apostasy is a wilful and obstinate act of treason against God and the one and only true creed, and a betrayal and desertion of the community." Thus his death is to be actively sought, so as to erase the stain on the community.
All this clearly violates the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948, which states: "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief…"
Although the Falls Church converts are Christians, this is not solely a Christian issue. Freedom of conscience should be a concern of everyone who professes concern for human rights. The human rights organizations should be the first to defend these people. American government and law enforcement officials should rush to their aid in the name of freedom. But neither the rights groups nor the government have yet noticed that the converts even exist.
MR SPENCER
Great Article. Your bullet of Reason [in Peaceful
Jihad] hits Apologists of Islam right between the Eyes! We're proud of you RS.
Thankyou Mr Spencer for caring enough about humanity to stand up for a human beings right to freedom of belief and religon. Why arn't there stronger laws to protect ex-muslims when fundamentalist clerics beleive the murder of an apostate is justifibale/acceptable.
I think that any muslim cleric that states in a mosque that it is religiously acceptable to kill an ex-muslim for apostacy should be charged with serious human rights violation/incitement to murder and vicarious liablility of any murders of apostates he as a result encourages. I also think that it should be a mandatory requirement for clerics if they want to preach in the west to regularly tell their flock/followers that they are entitled to freedom of religion without any threat of punishment.
Ummm any religious freak that stands up and publicly announces that is is OK to kill anyone should be hauled off to jail...if they want the right to kill people for allahs joy then they are going to have to move where killing is accepted...here it is against the law to kill ANYONE (other than in self defence) and if I am not mistaking it is illegal to utter a death threat...I could not go downtown, set up a stage and preach that it would be OK to kill all muslims because of 9-11, I would be arrested, why are they being afforded rights that the rest of us do not have(or have any need for)..this is just one more example of how many muslims dont feel it necessary to follow the laws of the land that took them in.
Let's all conver to Islam for one minute, then revert back to our original faith. Let's all become Apostates of Islam!
Of course law enforcement is ignorant of these issues (especially at the local level). While the likes of CAIR are out peddling sensitivity and victimization seminars, there is no education programs out there to discuss things like apostasy and other human rights problems associated with Islamic doctrine. Apparently, these topics are either overlooked out of ignorance, or overlooked out of the PC mind-set that violent Islamic doctrines are taboo topics of discussion.
Mike H, though I appreciate the well meaning intent behind your words:
"Let's all conver to Islam for one minute, then revert back to our original faith."
Do not forget that converting to Islam even for that one minute implies accepting that Allah is the only God and Mohd. is his only prophet.
And I find this prospect distasteful. A false god and a paedophile prophet shall not command authority over my morals, beliefs and loyalties for even one instant!
Might as well convert to Satanism.
Silence imposed by the fear of the threat of death even in America is one important reason why the scourge of these vile jihadists must be removed from the earth.
What brought this up? Did somebody die? I would like to know how many ex-Muslims we have in America and over the years how many have been killed because of thier law? I mean is it an epidemic? Are the numbers worse than the number of cheating husbands or wives killed by spouses?
Yeah, too bad you have to worry that someone's out to getch ya......but... welcome to the club.
To Bonzi
Even if people aren't being killed for apostacy the fact reamins that lot of muslim clerics are engaging in extreme terrorising criminal hate speech and encouraging through their words atrocities ...whether it is calling for the destruction of the west/JIHAD anD hostage taking or the duty to conduct fatwas against people...and many are getting away from it. Isn't it important to realise that many muslims and ex-muslims feel so afraid of these psychotic fatwa/ atrocity loving mullahs IN THEIR COMMUNITIES that they feel unable to be open about their new muslim non-faith. People shouldn't have to live in fear Bozi...Hell, if my local cleric was calling for the death of the west and he/she had alot of die-hard followers I would be afriad of him too...BUT WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO TOLERATE THAT FEAR? OFTEN WORDS ARE ALL A PERSON NEEDS TO SAY TO TERRORISE PEOPLE...even if they don't commit terrorist atrocities they are still terrorising.
obl r us
You shouldn't have to tolerate it and niether should I. And like I said.....WELCOME TO THE CLUB!