Here is a translation, made exclusively for Jihad Watch by John Eibner, of the German Die Welt story mentioned in this earlier AFP piece. (Thanks to Andrew Bostom.)
Last June, Syrian special troops used chemical weapons against the Black African population of Darfur. This action, which resulted in the death of dozens of people, took place with the agreement of the Government of Sudan. This is the conclusion of western intelligence services. It is substantiated by eyewitnesses, whose accounts have been published in various Arabic publications.According to the documentation of western news agencies, of Die Welt is in possession, Syrian officers met with representatives of the Sudanese Army in May of this year in a suburb of Khartoum. During these talks, they discussed how to expand military cooperation. According to information from intelligence sources, the Syrian delegation offered to cooperate more closely with Sudan in the field of chemical warfare. It was proposed, the sources furthermore stated, to investigate the effect of chemical weapons on the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA). As Khartoum was engaged in peace negotiations with the Rebels [presumably the SPLA] in May, the Sudanese delegation apparently advised testing the chemical material on the Black African population [presumably in Darfur, as opposed to Southern Sudan]. The Syrian civil airline, Syrian Arab Airlines, made at least five flights from Damascus to Khartoum. On board were specialists of the Syrian military college, together with technical equipment.
It can't be established precisely when the deployment of the weapons began in Darfur. One must say, on the Arab website Ilaf on the 2nd of August Sudanese eyewitnesses reported strange events in Khartoum's Al-Fashr Hospital [Do they mean the hospital is in Khartoum, or, what is more likely, Al-Fashr, Darfur?]. In June, several dozen frozen corpses were said to have been suddenly brought to the hospital. They had strange wounds all over their bodies. After a short time, the Sudanese soldiers are said to have closed off a wing of the building. If one believes the witnesses, permission to enter the closed wing was given to to only one team of unidentified Syrian doctors. After some days, Sudanese troops had disposed of the bodies.
Military experts have been in possession of information for some time about cooperation between the Sudanese and the Syrians in the area of chemical weapon research. Furthermore there are recurring reports from Syrian opposition sources about chemical weapon tests on prisoners.
Of course there were no WMDs. Ri-ght-t!!! Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon are armed camps with plenty of desert storage space for weapons of all kinds, bunkers, missiles, and even buried jets. This isn't rocket science. The WMDs are there, somewhere under a sand dune or two!
We all know there were WMDs. Clinton said so in 1998, and Kerry supported him.
http://www.ron-siddell.com/WMD.htm
But wait! Now they all claim there never were any WMDs.
Were they lying then, or are they lying now?
And if Clinton was telling the truth, then how could Bush be lying?
Liberals lie, Sudanese die.
Sorry, didn't sleep well. Back to bed...
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL, LIBERAL US AND UK MEDIA, LIBERAL OSTRICHES ALLOVER, TALKLEFT, DAILY MIRROR (etc, etc).. I have one thing to say:
READ IT AND WEEP
Several weeks ago I strongly advocated for military intervention in the Sudan to save the Black Africans of Dafur from being slaugthered.
Now with the collaboration of the Syrian government and the Islamic butchers of Khartoum in the use of chemical weapons, this only re-enforces the above.
Interesting how KeithJoy never comments when the truth is laid out, documented. And the very people Kerry wants in on this, the UN, make the same claims Kerry does. 'No WMDs.'
Funny how the Syrians keep popping up, isn't it?
Debka.com reported months ago that Iraqi WMD had been moved to Syria (and Lebanon); their 'spook info' has not always been reliable in the Iraq war, but one thing certain in my mind: no rational person should think that Saddam spent valuable resources (and now that we know more about Iraq before the war we know that Saddam was feeling the pinch as far as resources go) secretly destroying these weapons. That is absolutely absurd. WMD exist and, hence, WMD exist somewhere, and that somewhere is almost certainly known to someone.
Arabs & related tribes must be given credit, before the Koran, they were masters at developing mathematics, science, astronomy, medicine, & commerce. The Egyptian Pyramids speak for themselves. Greeks were also the masters. Today, many secular Arabs & other tribes excel in these related professions.
The history is certainly there, but ever since 7th Century A.D., Islam & the Koran has created this problematic agenda, Muslims are trying to force their lock-down backward ideology on everyone & have become killers of civilians.
I have been wrong in my last post concerning this topic, but I may have been right.
Why is this news not making mainstream US news?
A suggestion to the webmasters:
How difficult would it be to allow posters to edit their posts aftermath?
Everybody makes typos and mistakes of thought.
Why is this news not making mainstream US news?
Posted by: Moe's Foe at September 16, 2004 07:38 PM
Mainstream media is and has been for quite sometime under the control of the politically correct left.
The lefts agenda is to weaken Washington’s position in the world, to shred the capacity of American business to operate in the global marketplace, and to deny Americans the benefits we have historically enjoyed, in large part because of the exporting of democracy and American values. They are America’s enemies and ill-wishers.
They weild considerable infulence in the media, which they predominantly control,academia the bain washing of todays youth by radical left wing professors and the judicial system, politically correct judges who frustrate the efforts of our law enforcement agencys in combating the terrorists.
The political left is a coalition of socialists, communists, multi-culturists and anarchists whose goal is to turn America into a country where government redistributes material posessions and controls basic liberties. The left also believes in amnesty for terrorists, political correctness, that Islam is a tolerable religion and that every problem in the world is America's fault.
Our Colleges and Universities are filled with fifth column socialist professors who believe that the Islamic terrorists who are being held at Guantanamo Bay should be released and that U.S. soldiers are murderers.
The Left and the Islamists have many ideological similarities, and share many goals. The main goal they chiefly share is the destruction of Western Civilization.
All of the foregoing is why the work of Robert Spencer and others is so vitally important.The information here and at Dhimmi Watch would be hard pressed to find else where.
The following is an excellent book on this subject.
Unholy Alliance : Radical Islam and the American Left by David Horowitz
There’s no doubt that Baathist Syria’s been concealing major portions of Saddam Hussein’s illicit, non-conventional arsenal for nearly two years, with accounts of key components having been further secreted by Damascus in the Beqaa Valley, in its “protectorate” of Lebanon.
Several months ago, a brief report emerged of a cargo of Syrian-made Scud missiles delivered to the Islamist, Arab-supremacist, genocidal Government of Sudan, which included a number of “extraneous warheads” that Khartoum said it “was not equipped to handle”. (This implies they were chemical agents; according to some sources, the shipment contained a portion of Saddam’s missing WMD stocks). Reputedly, the Sudanese promptly sent these back to Syria.
However, most likely, these payloads were merely a single, faulty batch - in a scheduled traffic - that had to be urgently returned PURELY FOR SAFETY’S SAKE, in light of Sudan’s poor-to-nonexistant technical infrastructure, to deal with their leaking or any mis-calibrations. It looks as though Khartoum wasn’t in the slightest bit averse to receiving the chemical arms - it simply demanded FUNCTIONING ones, which it can utilize in its GENOCIDE/JIHAD in Darfur!
As for fascist Syria itself, in this week’s exchanges in the UN Security Council, over its 30-year Occupation of its satellite, Lebanon, a Resolution, tabled by the USA and France (now striving desperately to salvage its residual influence in the Levant) and co-sponsored by Britain and Germany, called for “Lebanon’s upcoming Presidential Elections to be free and fair”. - In the event, Syria ordered the abject Lebanese “Parliament” to peremptorily extend Damascus’ puppet-President’s tenure for another three years, so nullifying the due ballot outright.
The UNSC Resolution above, additionally, decrees “the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Lebanon”. The SOLE foreign forces there nowadays are Syria’s approximately 20,000 men (- apart from roughly 1,500 Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Pasdaran, working with Hezbollah, plus thousands of “Palestinian” and other Arab, Moslem and Leftist terrorists).
In the Session, the French UN Ambassador said that “the future of Lebanon must [have] restoration of its sovereignty and not… the intensification of external interference”. Damascus’ “Information Minister” answered that instead of the Syrians pulling out of Lebanon, “there will be greater co-operation, co-ordination and congruity between the two countries”.
Syria’s defiance of the UN ought NEVER be tolerated anyhow (if the Body seeks to hang onto whatever shreds of credibility it claims to retain). But, as it’s confronted, it can constructively be linked to a further, serious, onrushing, regional and geo-strategic problem - directly caused by fascist Damascus’ chief sponsor, IRAN: the grim spectre of Tehran’s Grand Council of Islamic Guidance’s covert, accelerated, illegal development of nuclear weapons....
In the name of Allah
Let me begin by saying, i am not here to get into childish, foolish or ignorant discussions. My purpose here is to discuss topics of concern while giveing not only the main stream Islamic view point but also evidence to support it, all the while sticking firmly to the Qur'an and prophetic traditions.
I said that because i saw on another thread a muslim make a statement and then the readers/posters basically attacked him based on his beliefs as opposed to his views and comments, this is foolish as we are here to discuss issues, your views and mine and why...not me as a person or any of you as a person.
Now, this link is what i chose to discuss because i just spent the summer in Syria studying. I walked through damascus and saw their military, i encountered their special forces and i tell you first hand, anyone who says syria is a military threat to our safety and security is a liar and that is a major joke to me. Their special forces are so ill trained american street gangs could unravel their forces.
As for their working with the sudan to kill their muslim brothers, this also is rediculous as the sudan has been in a civil war against the southern sudanese rebels who have been trying to usurp the power of the muslim government for 3 decades!!!! if the sudanese government was going to secretly test anything it would be on their long time ennemies, and the same goes for the syrians...they would not go after their muslim brothers while not aiding the sudan against their enemies in the long standing civil war.
THINK!!!! Whenever i hear this type of propoganda i always go to the sources and the sudanese embassy reports that the issue of darfur is being strongly exagerate dby the western media. Not to mention that it is just another attack via propoganda against syria.
Again, i will discuss these issues but i do not respond to ignorance nor off the cuff, uninformed responces.
I thank everyone for their time
Bill
What is your opinion?
At this point in history, are Muslims are trying to slowly gain control the planet, through immigration, & building mosques around the world, & Jihad, & converting non-Muslims to Muslims,
or,
are Muslims only interested in defending, what they believe is their land, historically,
& the growing number of mosques around the world, mainly accommodate Muslim economic migrants, settled in foreign (non-Muslim) lands, & with almost no conversions of non-Muslims to Muslims?
Bill, even a miserable excuse for a military such as Syria's can be pretty formidable with a few WMD.
SFOD, I agree the gov. of Sudan is a reprehensible pack of thugs, and it would be great if someone could take the country over and turn it into three or four countries (ESPECIALLY separating off the Christian south of the country, which has been fighting a civil war to keep the slave-traders and official terrorists off their backs for decades).
However, look at a globe, and please note that Sudan is as large as the entire USA east of the Mississippi in area. a military intervention there would be a tall order.
In the name of Allah
First kepha1, are you the kepha i spoke with via email brfore my going to Syria? if so, i lost your email and would like to continue our previous discussion so please feel free to email me.
After that, as for syria haveing wmd's, I cannot claim to know but i will say that we claimed the same thing of Iraq and even went as far as saying our intellegence agents with other international intellegence agencies had evidence of this. However, it has been proven that this was a lie and based upon false documents....and iraq is much larger and richer than syria could hope to be and yet we say they have what iraq did not?
wmd's are a scare tactic used as an excuse for war! America has the most wmd's of anyone around the world! and we daily develope more modern and viciouse forms of deadly, devestating weapons of mass destruction!
one may say, but we only do justice while others are tyrants...we are starting wars after scaring the citezens into supporting them based on fears of invisable enemies!
I aoplogise but i am not one to just role over for the propoganda machines.
As for the views on the Sudan, i can school you on the historyu of this war started by the American babtist church and it's missionaries if you would like and how slavery is a thing that happens on both sides and has been a tribal occurance for centuries...it is not a result or consequence of islam or the muslims and can not be linked in anyway to it'
thank you for your time:)
In the name of Allah
sfod;
my opinion is that this propoganda is rediculous. Does one say that the chinese are trying to take over the world because there are so many of them and they immigrate to other lands and have children, building community centers and teaching their cultures? no.
As for the muslims, we are a people who are 1/5th of the worlds population, many who do convert, such as myself. 5,000,000 muslims live in the U.S., many of who are not immigrants nor foreign. To say that we are trying to take over the world is rediculous. however, it is true I and my brothers and sisters in faith would love for the world to either accept islam or establish the islamic laws...why, because we believe this is best for all mankind, muslim and non-muslim alike.
In short, my opinion based between the two choices given by you is this, "Muslims only interested in defending, what they believe is their land, historically,
& the growing number of mosques around the world, mainly accommodate Muslim economic migrants, settled in foreign (non-Muslim) lands..."
however, your statement, " with almost no conversions of non-Muslims to Muslims?" is incorrect as Islam has the highest conversion rate of any ideology around the globe and this is amongst every race, age, class and gender, and is the statistic found in every land around our planet.
funny how people claim Islam is spread by the sword while today in america where there are nothing but negative propoganda against islam it is still holds the highest conversion rate. The same in australia and europe...and still no forced conversion.