The Islamic States of America?

I have been saying this for several years now, in three books, scores of articles, and many public addresses. Now here is Daniel Pipes with more. He outlines the material in a recent Chicago Tribune article about the Muslim Brotherhood in the USA, and its goal to establish an Islamic state here, and then draws an important conclusion. From FrontPage, with thanks to EPG:

The hardest thing for Westerners to understand is not that a war with militant Islam is underway but that the nature of the enemy’s ultimate goal. That goal is to apply the Islamic law (the Shari‘a) globally. In U.S. terms, it intends to replace the Constitution with the Qur’an.

This aspiration is so remote and far-fetched to many non-Muslims, it elicits more guffaws than apprehension. Of course, that used to be the same reaction in Europe, and now it’s become widely accepted that, in Bernard Lewis’ words, “Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century.”

Because of the American skepticism about Islamist goals, I postponed publishing an article on this subject until immediately after 9/11, when I expected receptivity to the subject would be greater (it was published in November 2001 as “The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America”). I argued there that

The Muslim population in this country is not like any other group, for it includes within it a substantial body of people—many times more numerous than the agents of Osama bin Ladin—who share with the suicide hijackers a hatred of the United States and the desire, ultimately, to transform it into a nation living under the strictures of militant Islam.

The receptivity indeed was greater, but still the idea of an Islamist takeover remains unrecognized in establishment circles – the U.S. government, the old media, the universities, the mainline churches....

In suburban Rosemont, Ill., several thousand people attended MAS’ annual conference in 2002 at the village’s convention center. One speaker said, “We may all feel emotionally attached to the goal of an Islamic state” in America, but it would have to wait because of the modest Muslim population. “We mustn’t cross hurdles we can’t jump yet.”

These revelations are particularly striking, coming as they do just days after a Washington Post article titled “In Search Of Friends Among The Foes,” which reports how some U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials believe the Muslim Brotherhood’s influence “offers an opportunity for political engagement that could help isolate violent jihadists.” Graham Fuller is quoted saying that “It is the preeminent movement in the Muslim world. It’s something we can work with.” Demonizing the Brotherhood, he warns, “would be foolhardy in the extreme.” Other analysts, such as Reuel Gerecht, Edward Djerejian, and Leslie Campbell, are quoted as being in agreement with this outlook.

But it is a deeply wrong and dangerous approach. Even if the Muslim Brotherhood is not specifically associated with violence in the United States (as it has been in other countries, including Egypt and Syria), it is deeply hostile to the United States and must be treated as one vital component of the enemy’s assault force.

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Morning all! I figured Mr. Spencer would have some of what I've seen so far this morning, so I waited on this....

OT, but islam-related:

Is Cat Stevens a Terrorist?
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15219

Beslan: Turning Point in the Arab World?
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15139

Let the daily rage against the New Nazis commence!

Mr.Pipes on the ball as usual.

It's makes me shudder to think that a man as observant of militant islam as Daniel Pipes sees Europe on a one-way-ticket to muslim-misery.

The Tory party (the UKs other main rightwing along with labour) have revealed their new policy on immigration laws, and are talking of toughening up the laws, and focusing more on getting out bogus claiments, and making sure only immigrants of use to our economy are allowed in.

This a refreshing angle from our shadow government (Labour, though supposedly also rightwing seems to swing more to the left every day).
Now all my life I have been bought up , almost religiously to be pro-labour, and to hate the Tories, but I must admit now that they are looking like thesafest choice, if we are to stop the plague of Eurabia, spreading to our country (just think if the rest of Europe is islamic in 50 years time, the UK will become like a newage Israel, if we are the last ones to defy it).

The BNP party were booed off stage earlier this year, and as such are being stopped from becoming an official party (which is disgusting as it should be in the voters hands who get in, and where are the same measure against far left parties who are far more damaging to the nation)this has just made matyrs of them, and now the conservatives are picking up where they left off (hopefully they'll get in and stick to it).

A leftwing skunk phined in on The Wright Stuff (a UK morning current affairs show were the public have their say) saying that the new Tory policies are too far to the right (a great reason to vote for them) and that our immigration laws are already too tough, with idiots like this around is there any wonder the snake-pit Lib Dem party have grown.
This idiot says we are a nation that has always opened our doors to all those fleeing "oppression" and , it is the governments fault that there are not enough houses to give refuge to more immigrant (okay dick-head lets spend millions on building more houses so that a bunch of foreigners , many who hate us and would like to see us become corpses or muslim-zombies, can live in them, while real Brits and immigrants worth letting in are forced to go without as a result.I'd respect lefties more if they had an argument you could take seriously, but...well y'know).
He may well be right that Britain has always had an "open-door" policy, but the time for that to change is long gone, there is no longer any respect that comes with them, and we are being taken for pushovers and fools. We've done what we can and we've suffered for it, nows the time to start thinking about stemming the flow, and stop putting the welfare of foreigners above our own people.
If I have to join BNP or vote Tory for that to happen, then so be it.

Gary,

I posted the Nonie Darwish piece here fully ten days ago:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003182.php

As for the Cat Stevens piece, I don't think it is convincing, but I'll take another look.

Best
RS

That it is the ultimate goal of Muslims worldwide to make Islam the national religion of the USA and turn it into an Islamic state is an indisputable fact. That many Americans fail to understand their ultimate objective -- to make the world's superpower an Islamic régime -- makes me realize that they are living in a fool's paradise.

Many have told me that the Constitution would not allow that. Do they not realize that their Constitution is man-made; and what has been made can be unmade, too. Muslims would have no compunction in re-writing the Constitution. Be under no illusions!

How easy it is to deceive the liberal mind!

Along with many other authors, I, too, have warned of this outcome in my book, The Dawning of a New Dark Age. Hence, on the cover of the book, the Statue of Liberty is holding the Islamized US flag in the one hand, and the Koran in the other!

It is high time that we all woke up to what is going on under our very noses. If we do not mind the store, both the US and Europe will be turned into Islamic states. Then the West will have gone down the tubes! Our children will all be living in the 'New Dark Age' then! What a future we will have beqeathed to them!

I must not have been awake 10 days ago. Then again, I haven't exactly been Asleep the past week. You know something is wrong when your body is used to having coffee at 3 am... I'll do better next time!

Nice article Gray,

Even the Arabs are starting to realise that terrorism, fuelled by both their historic inferiority complex vis-a-vis the west and their psychopathic ideology, might be a tactical error.

They just can't shake off that looser image.

"The Islamic States of America"

Now I understand why americans build so many rockets...so they can get off this (soon to be islamist) planet. Have a proposal for you islamists... you can keep a crappy dark age part of this world for yourselves and the rest of us can go on to colonize the galaxy and we can get to throw peanuts down to you at feeding time.

Fortunately for the US I think europe has several canaries(i.e. countries) in the cage that will provide a early warning to the US and other countires if the islamizing of western countries goes bad. Europe always seems to get into these epochal problems first. History always repeats. I worry that europe will become balkanised. Yet already there are stirings of a far-right response to islamism. What are the long term consequences of these movements? Will they grow/metastasize? Will they become something of which we wouldn't approve of today? Le pen got 20 percent of the vote...what will his successor get in the future if France gets worse (and it probably will). I am still waiting for Western Liberal democracies to take the islamist threat seriously so as to take the wind from out of the sails of both totalitarian movements (eastern and the western). Arresting islamists who commit treason (in words and deads) would be a start.

I am not sure though whether the US would go freely into the dark night of islamist theofascism. It will have an early warning so as to decide what it feels it has to do to preserve its identity and freedoms. I think what is more likey is another american war of independence...just next time it will be a war of independence from pro-Islamist thought, appeasment-style behaviour and all the politically correct garbage that goes with it.

the Islamic Brotherhood doesn't seem to want to make a secret of its goals. This is from their British web-page (http://www.ummah.org.uk/ikhwan/):

" Main objectives

A huge tree of "sub-goals" branches from these main objectives which are derived from the Quran and the tradition of the prophet (pbuh) [3,4]:

1- Building the Muslim individual: brother or sister with a strong body, high manners, cultured thought, ability to earn, strong faith, correct worship, conscious of time, of benefit to others, organized, and self-struggling character [3].
2- Building the Muslim family: choosing a good wife (husband), educating children Islamicaly, and inviting other families.
3- Building the Muslim society (thru building individuals and families) and addressing the problems of the society realistically.
4- Building the Muslim state.
5- Building the Khilafa (basically a shape of unity between the Islamic states).
6- Mastering the world with Islam.
Objectives 1 to 4 are parallel and interlinked, and continuous even after reaching 4, 5 or 6 "


They couldn't make it more clear, could they?
I just wonder why we don't see any of this in the news. They just keep up the distinction between the terrorists and the "nice" Muslims, the two kinds having nothing to do with each other, the nice ones posing no threat. How long do we have to keep hearing this?

Yes, indeed, they are clear about their intentions. However, this is nothing new as history has demonstrated that this has been their intention since the very beginning. To make Islam triumphant is the main deal. However, Islamists also want to acquire resources and capital, including human capital as the engine of their caliphate, with Arabs as the first among Muslims and non-Muslims as their dhimnmis. This too, has been made abundantly clear.

Mr. Spencer

Regarding the Muslim formerly known as the recording artist Cat Stevens, Michelle Malkin's piece, posted yesterday on FrontPageMag.com, presents more details about Yusuf Islam's activities and associations that do suggest he's persona non grata in the US for good reason. What actions the UK government has taken or will take with regard to Islam's activities as a bagman for Hamas is another matter.

Instead of providing you with a link, I've pasted in an extract of the above-referenced posting:

During a visit to Jerusalem last year, he [Stevens/Islam] was highly critical of Israel's handling of the unrest in the occupied territories. It was alleged in an Israeli military court in the Gaza Strip this week that he had gone much further and given about 4,000 Pounds (pds) to the fundamentalist Islamic movement, Hamas.

Hamas is bitterly opposed to the current peace moves of Yassir Arafat, the PLO chief, and wants to replace Israel with an Islamic state.

In 1991, Yusuf Islam led protests against America and the Gulf War in Bradford, England and demanded immediate withdrawal of our troops.

According to terrorism expert Steven Emerson, who testified before Congress in 1996 about the militant group Islamic Association for Palestine:

IAP is presently headquartered in a nondescript strip shopping mall in Richardson, Texas. IAP has set up an elaborate publications and video operation to promote Hamas, in both Arabic and English. While the Arabic brazenly supports Hamas, IAP's English-language publications and videos -- clearly intended for non-Muslim Western audiences-- are relatively tame, refraining, for the most part, from advocating terrorism and hatred against Jews and Christians.

But not entirely. One IAP publication, called "America's Greatest Enemy: The Jew and an Unholy Alliance," has been routinely distributed at Islamist conventions. Another IAP brochure, authored by Yusef Islam, formerly known as the singer Cat Stevens before he converted to Islam, contains plain old anti-Semitism: "The Jews seem neither to respect God nor his creation. Their own holy books contain the curse of God brought upon them by their prophets on account of their disobedience to Him and mischief in the earth. We have seen the disrespect for religion displayed by those who consider themselves to be 'God's chosen people.' ... There will be no justice until all the land is given back to its rightful owners ... Only Islam can bring peace back to the Holy Land..." From his home in Great Britain, Islam/Stevens has also raised tens of thousands of dollars for Hamas, in cooperation with the British fundraising arm of Hamas, known as the Relief Fund for Lebanon and Palestine.


In July 2000, Stevens was kicked out of Israel. According to the AP:

The man who gained fame as pop star Cat Stevens was denied entry into Israel and deported hours after arriving, officials said Thursday -- reportedly because he gave money to a militant Islamic group during his last visit. Defense Ministry officials refused to comment on Yusuf Islam's case other than to say that the Shin Bet, Israel's internal intelligence agency, had ordered the man who wrote such songs as "Peace Train" and "Wild World" barred from the country.

Islam, 51, who changed his name after becoming a Muslim in the late 1970s, last visited Israel in 1988. The government claims that during that trip he delivered tens of thousands of dollars to Hamas, a militant Islamic group, the Maariv daily reported...

I'm not going to rest until I see United States Attorneys starting to dust off their law library stacks associated with 18 USC Chapter 115.

The Islamic states of America (ISA).

....LOL, it does kind of have a nice ring to it doesn't it , but seriously there is one thing that I don't understand.

Countless reports, emails, posts have talked about muslims being backward and still living in the 7th centuary with mini sized brains, while the West is sooooo ...sooooooo advanced.

If you know that this is a problem, you know that this is going to hurt you; then why don't you stop it, for example:

No more Visas for muslims
remove all jobs for muslims
Not allowed to purchase houses/shops etc.
Mass re-petration programs (though where you will send 2nd/3rd generation american muslims (with american citizenship) I don't know.
Buy back all the shares from Saudis.

You are the real clever ones, we just just dumb tribal folk who want to live in mud huts, c'mon tell me why! Don't talk to me about Western tolerance though, as I don't see a lot of it here.

Personally, I don't know much about the ISA concept, I prefer the USME concept. Waht is that you ask ...well it is the

*United States of the Middle East*.

Because Islamic countries have such daft & poor leaders, they don't know what is good and advantageous to them!

A unified Islamic ME will transform Islam and it's standing globally.

Instead, those good for nothing "leaders" are too busy sireing and thinking about marrying their daughters/childrens to some truly backward tribal leader (to get some guns and dates on his side).

They need to be removed and a leader with vision needs to get in there...ironically probably the person who has done more to bring this unification forward is none other than ...your George Dubiya Bush.

So thank you for removing Saddam, and when the mullahs are removed from Iran, Syria etc. (by the USA), people will talk about a USME and it will gather momentum.

So you are helping....albiet not in quite the way you think.

Thank you USA, Britain, you are the true servants to Islam.

Something that really bothered me several months ago was an article about the Oregon lawyer arrested on suspicion of being involved in the bombing in Spain. He acted affronted that anyone would suspect him because of his religious beliefs.

Well, even though he is a converted Muslim and originally from Kansas (I think), his daughter and wife are still covered with the head scarf. Worse, his younger daughter is named: Sharia. Isn't that a cute name? Kind of like Hope or Charity, only the Muslim version.

I wish we would stop accepting Muslims as immigrants. I see a Civil War in the future which could be prevented now.

Please keep beheading the civilians. Please keep posting your bloody sadistic videos of heartless religion cloaked murder. I never hated the Islamic people as a people until I saw these videos. I am sickened by the massive Islamic internet support these cowardly acts have generated. We as a free thinking people don't all support or approve of everything our countries do. We need to be provoked into hate, like these videos of you devils on earth sawing off the heads of more bound, helpless, civilians will surely do.

If you really want your so-called "holy war" I for one am now finally down with it. The fine Japanese people were once just as fanatical and just as willing to die for the cause. They also were real into raping and beheading the innocent civilians in Nan king. The only way to stop this is to resort to the hell on earth kind of war where civilian casualties must be allowed. After all, in this country or their own, these killers are all civilians by day.

I don't easily anger to this extent but the videos really worked. I wish the media would air them, and the towers falling 10 times a day. So we don't forget! Those burning ships full of teenage men on that Sunday morning sneak attack in 1941 was never allowed to be forgotten. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese civilians died in the fire bombing of Tokyo and the atom bombs as a result.
But also as a result, Japan is no longer a brutal country of brainwashed, fanatic raping murderers. It is a free thinking society with a great PEACEFULL, free thinking people, a people who don't always agree with their leadership, and are not afraid to say so.

I am ashamed of what we did there. We surely would have been tried war criminals had we lost. But war IS hell, it has to be in order to stop the brainwashed, fanatic murderers who don't kill civilians because they must, but because (like son of sam, the crusaders or the KKK)god tells them it's their most rewarding duty to murder anyone who is different no matter how helpless or innocent.

Pray to Allah for your jihad, keep sawing off heads and I'll now be praying to the same higher love that you get your big jihad, an ALL OUT no holds barred NUCLEAR JIHAD, THE SOONER THE BETTER!

The Islamic States of America!

What a truly disgusting notion. All the more reason to increase the distance between Religion and Government.

So does this mean that sometime in the future my descendants are going to be looking at a three way contest of idealogies to rule America: Islam vs. Christianity vs. Secular Humanism???

JAI

PEACE, ISLAM STYLE:
Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: “None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.” Whoever says this will save his property and his life from me.’”
Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”
Tabari VII:86 “Gabriel brought down the following verse to the Messenger: ‘If you apprehend treachery from any people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations).’ When Gabriel had finished delivering this verse, the Prophet said, ‘I fear the Banu Qaynuqa.’ It was on the basis of this verse that Muhammad advanced upon them.”
Tabari VII:158 “Judayy went to Abd Allah Ibn Ubayy to ask for support. He said, ‘I found him sitting among a number of his companions while the Prophet’s crier was calling men to arms. He said, ‘This is a clever trick of Muhammad’s.’ The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir Jews for fifteen days. In the end they made peace with him on the condition that the Prophet would not kill them and that their property and their coats of mail would be his.”
Tabari VII:159 “The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir for fifteen days until he had reduced them to a state of utter exhaustion, so that they would give him what he wanted. The terms in which the Prophet made peace with the Jews were: he would not shed their blood, he would expel them from their lands and settlements, providing for every three of them a camel and a water-skin.”
Tabari VII:159 “The Prophet fought them until he made peace with them on condition that they evacuated Yathrib. He expelled them to Syria but allowed them to keep what their camels could carry, except for their coats of mail and weapons.”
Qur’an 47:33 “Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”
Qur’an 97:5 “There is peace until the dawning of the day!”
Ishaq:515 “When the people of Fadak heard what had happened, they sent word to the Messenger, asking him to banish them and spare their lives, saying they too would leave him their property. When the people of Khaybar surrendered on these conditions, the survivors asked Muhammad to employ them on their farms for a half share of whatever they produced. They said, ‘We know more about farming [seeing that you are terrorists and all].’ So Muhammad made peace with them for a half share, provided that: ‘If we want to expel you, we may.’ He made a similar arrangement with Fadak. So Khaybar became the prey of the Muslims, while Fadak belonged exclusively to the Messenger of Allah, becoming his personal property, because the Muslims had not attacked its people with cavalry.”
Qur’an 9:3 “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”
Tabari VIII:104 “Peace to whoever follows the right guidance! To proceed; Submit yourself, and you shall be safe.’”
Qur’an 49:9 “If two parties among the Believers fall into fighting, make peace: but if one becomes aggressive, then fight against the one that transgresses until it complies.”
Tabari VIII:142 “The Messenger made peace with them on condition that the Zoroastrians should be required to pay the jizyah tax [so onerous, it’s akin to economic suicide] that one should not marry their women.”
Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?” Qur’an 9:8 “How (can there be such a treaty), seeing that they get an advantage, the upper hand over you? They do not pay you respect, or honor you or the ties of kinship or covenant. With (good words from) their mouths they entice you [out negotiate you], but their hearts are averse to you.”
Qur’an 9:12 “If they violate their oaths and break treaties, taunting you for your Religion, then fight these specimens of faithlessness.”
Tabari VIII:163 “The Prophet said, ‘I think you will see Abu Sufyan [the leading Meccan merchant] come to strengthen the pact and extend the term.’” Ishaq:543 “Abu Sufyan went to Muhammad in Medina to affirm the peace treaty, but Muhammad refused to speak to him.” Tabari VIII:164 “Sufyan went to Abu Bakr and asked him to intercede, but he refused. When Sufyan asked Umar to help [avert war], he replied, ‘No way. By Allah, if I had only ant grubs, I would fight you with them! Ali said, ‘Woe to you, Sufyan. When the Messenger has determined a thing it is useless for anyone to talk to him.’”
Tabari VIII:165 “There is nothing that you can do to make peace with him.”
Tabari VIII:165 “When Abu Sufyan reported back to the Quraysh that Muhammad had given him no reply, they said, ‘Woe to you! By Allah, he did no more than play with you.’”
Ishaq:544 “Muhammad commanded the people to prepare for the foray [raid, incursion, sortie, attack, or assault]. The Messenger informed his troops that he was going to Mecca. He ordered them to prepare themselves and ready their equipment quickly. He said, ‘O Allah, keep spies and news from the Quraysh until we take them by surprise in their land.’”
Tabari VIII:182 “Allah had enabled Muhammad to take the persons of the Quraysh by force, giving him power over them so they were his booty. Their lives were now his spoil.”
Ishaq:552 “When the populace settled down, Muhammad went to the Ka’aba and compassed it seven times on his camel, touching the Black Stone with a stick. Then he went inside the Temple. There he found a dove made of wood. He broke it in his hands and threw it away.” [The first idol Muhammad broke was the international symbol of peace.]
Tabari IX:58 “When the Messenger reached Tabuk the governor of Aylah [a seaport at the north end of the Gulf of Aqabah] came to him, made a treaty, and agreed to pay the jizyah tax. The people of Jarba and Adhruh also offered to pay him the tax.”
Ishaq:607 “The Byzantines encountered the Messenger’s cavalry which was led by Khalid. Ukaydir was seized and his brother Hassan was killed. Muhammad spared his life and made peace with him on the condition that he pay the zakat tax.”
Tabari IX:79 “In this year the zakat was made obligatory, and the Messenger dispatched his agents to collect it. The verse was revealed: ‘Take the zakat from their wealth to purify them.’”
Ishaq:316 “In peace you are wild asses—rough and coarse. And in war you are like women wearing corsets. But I care not so long as my hand can grasp my trusty blade.”
Qur’an 8:61 “But if the enemy inclines toward peace, do you (also) incline to peace, and trust in Allah. Should they intend to deceive or cheat you, verily Allah suffices: He strengthened you with His aid and with Believers.” [The small print is real important. “Should they intend to deceive or cheat” is an open invitation to invoke 8:57 to 60. The first to interpret this surah said:]
Ishaq:326 “If they ask you for peace on the basis of Islam (submission), make peace on that basis. Be of one mind by His religion.”
Tabari VIII:17 “The Muslims and polytheists stayed in their positions for twenty nights with no fighting except for the shooting of arrows and the siege. When the trial became great for the people, the Messenger sent for the leaders of the Ghatafan [Meccan comrades]. He offered them a third of the date harvest of Medina on condition that they leave. The truce between the sides progressed to the point of drawing up a written document, but there was no witnessing or firm determination to make peace; it was only a matter of maneuvering.”
Ishaq:454 “Now that Allah has conferred Islam on us, and made us famous, shall we give them our property? By Allah, we will offer them only the sword until Allah judges between us.’ ‘As you wish,’ said Allah’s Messenger.”
Tabari VIII:100 “Abu Sufyan said, ‘We were merchants but the fighting between us and Muhammad has prevented us from journeying, so our wealth is depleted. [This is the purpose of terrorism.] Even after the truce with the Muslims, we fear that we still are not safe. [Muslims, continuing to plunder Meccan caravans, violated the treaty twenty times.]’”
Qur’an 4:90 “For those who join a group between you and whom there is a treaty, or (those who become) weary of fighting you, had Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. Therefore if they withdraw and wage not war, and send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah has not given you a way (to war) against them.” [The purpose of terror is to cause people to become so “weary of fighting” they surrender.]
Qur’an 4:91 “You will find others who, while wishing to live in peace and being safe from you to gain the confidence of their people; thrown back to mischief headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and offer you peace besides restraining their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear sanction and authority.” [So if you wish to live in peace, but are perceived as being mischievous (i.e., non-Muslim), Allah has given his Jihad warriors “a clear sanction and authority to seize and kill” you.]


The Byzantines
Are the Southern Italy and became the Leaders of Spain?

I guess sence the Spanish paid for the Boats that made the quest to the new land that the mulsums think it could be theirs?

THEY ARE WRONG! LIKE THEY THINK CUTTING OFF MENS HEADS WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACKS GIVES THE PEOPLE OF THE USA FEAR?

NO FEAR HERE JUST GETTING REALLY PISSED OFF THE PEOPLE WILL SOON DEMAND IN FULL FORCE TO TAKE THE GLOVES OFF!!


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat Amen

Dream on Naseem. You think Islam is a unified force? Who's going to be in charge, the Sunnis, the Shiites the Taliban? Islam has been fighting itself and everyone else for centuries.

So you are helping....albiet not in quite the way you think.

Thank you USA, Britain, you are the true servants to Islam.

Posted by: Naseem at September 23, 2004 11:53 AM

YES LITTLE PAKI WOMAN THINK THAT?
HAS NO ONE TOLD YOU THE TRUTH THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT YOUR NUKE'S AND HOW IS IT THAT YOUR COUNTRY WHO IS SOOO INLIGHTENED HAS SOOOO MANY POOR AND STARVING?

You Know not what you think?

Americans have a Strength and a Will that has never been understood?


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat Amen

PS
Is it you who Lives in ubl house? YES YOU FOLLOW A YELLOW COWARD!! NO SEE SINCE TORA-BORA HOW LONG NOW DID HE HAVE A SEX CHANGE??
IT IS A PRETTY WHITE HOUSE WITH ROUND SIDES?

As Degenerate Artist stated above, muslims can't even get along with each other, much less with the rest of the world.

Many muslims are even ignorant of the true teachings of their cult. A few months ago, we had muslims screaming outrage when we pointed out that muhammed had sex with Aisha when she was nine years old, accusing us of "defaming" their "prophet", who was the "perfect man". I told them not to believe us, but to check with their imam. They came back DEFENDING muhammed's pedophilia.

nazi-eem the sad little wanna-be Arab whose Hindu ancesors were raped and butchered by muslim invaders. And all this deranged pakistani woman can talk about is the middle east. How well Arab imperialism has brainwashed it's asian minions. Dream on poor deluded nazi-eem, your islamic future is a bloodstained mirage forever receding into the distance.

LOVE LIFE - HATE ISLAM !!

Well guys, the erudite author of the belmont club weblog, One Mr. Wretchard has posted a rather interesting piece on his site:

" The most remarkable thing about Israel's campaign against the Intifada was not it's adoption of new warfighting concepts, like Europe's Human Security Doctrine, but its reversion to the oldest method of all: winning by fighting back.

However that may be, Totten concludes that Israel is a test case, the pathfinder to America's future in the war on terror. Israel's present may be our future. Best get used to it now.

The necessary corollary is if Israel's future is to America's then Palestine's is to the Islamic world's: a bleak landscape of impoverished, poorly educated people living on a diet of fantasy: the least necessary tragedy in history. The Jihad like the Intifada is the highroad to vacancy. "

Find it here:
http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/

Ms. Catherine,

you say "YES LITTLE PAKI WOMAN THINK THAT." Why do you SHOUT so much, why do you have so much hate (I think that is racist by the way, I'm not that little), and why do you hate spiders (they are good for keeping pests down)....in fact is there anything special about you at all, do you perhaps need skin toning...what's the matter with you?

You may laugh at my out of the box thinking, you may think it absurd today, but who knows the future! George Bush is a defender of Islam, he said so after bombing the carp out of Afganistan & Iraq.

I have little doubt that he will have plans for Iran and Sirya ...which could lead to instability in the ME...and then put back as a federal region.... a USME if you will!

And no one has answered my questions....namely if we are soooo bad ...then why is nobody doing anything about it, why aren't we being thriown out of America, or sidelined like the red Indian. I have put some starters for 10, why have you not implemented them?

And please don't give me Mr. Rikki's left overs or Ms. Catherine's sour nothings.

I want practical answers, so come on Mr. Spencer, Mr Hugh or Mr Cubed , you are the big guns on this wonderful site, after 9/11 why have we not had these draconin measures!

Okay Naseem,

I'm not a heavyweight around here, I'm not even a regular, and I know better than to feed the trolls, but things are slow in the office this afternoon.

I believe the reason Americans and Europe haven't turned against their Muslim citizens and immigrants is due to our "Civil Society". Collectively speaking, we don't generally punish a group of persons (race, creed or ethnicity) because of the anti-social behavior of a few of it's members. Not all theists are literalists, not all Muslims are Jihadists, all Christians do not bomb abortion clinics and all Atheists are not amoral.

We like to believe that most people are good at heart and worthy of dignity and respect.

Simply put, we are civilized people.

JAI

Naseem

The west won't fall to your islamist gloabal domination dreams. I am very dissapointed in you. I thought you were a moderate. But you are not. All you do now is gloat over the extermination of difference in the world (muslim hegemony) and somehow think our tolerance of you is weakness/stupidity, and that your islamist ambitions will make the world better. In what way exactly would a islamic glaobal world make the world better. If that happened the world would become a total hell on earth. DO you think the world would be a better place if it was like Pakistan (a third world dictorship), Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afganistan. There are some improvements like indonesia and turkey but they only develope becuase they have become secular, reducing their islamic influences on government. When they become more islamic their countries go backwards automatically. So how much do YOU WANT THE WORLD TO GO BACKWARDS...since when was going backwards an improvement? Your logic is non-existant.

P.S. People in the west don't want to live under islamist rule. The US won't fall to islamist rule becuase the whole country is awash with guns and automatic rifles. Too many angry westerners would stop it and the military wouldn't accept it either. SOme poor islamized countries in europe will give the US a early warning of the horrible socio-economic costs of accepting any islamist influences in society.

Hey nazi-eem. Why don't you answer my points. How does it feel knowing that your hindu ancestors were raped and butcherd in their millions by muslim invaders ? How does it feel to be asian but to dream always of being an arab ? how does it feel to know your co-religionists are the most poorly educated people on the planet ? Also George Bush has got nothing against carp - they're his favourite fish and he'd never bomb them out of Afghanistan or Iraq as you claimed. Good night sad borg..dream on of your Arab homeland that was never yours to begin with. What a shame...

Obviously, the muzzi bros aren't factoring in the inevitable civil war and guerilla warfare the 2nd amendment believers would undertake, the inevitable geographic disintegration of America (the Alaskans and Hawaiians are going to say 'so long' first), and the abject poverty what's left of America would be in if and when islam decides to make its move. America's greatest resource are its people--we really don't have very many natural resources--and once sharia law tells them they can't do squat, America won't be worth squat. I guess an islamic America would be "the tribulation."

The Islamic intrusion in the West is happening, quite literally, under our own eyes. In peaceful corners of Europe where Islam wasn't an issue a couple of years ago, you now see full burqas in the streets, their numbers growing day by day (sometimes, the bearded men are along, a couple of steps ahead). There are little children, girls of three years and even less, packed in heavy all-covering veils, their faces hardly showing. Is there anything more pervert than considering the head and hair of a 2-3-year-old girl to be too indecent, "too tempiting" to men, to be uncovered? You see children in playgrounds, in hijabs and tight long skirts, walking around like stiff clumsy dolls, not able to run and play like the other kids. Who are the people imposing such a cruel handicap on their own children? Seems the muslims are selling the freedom, dignity and wellbeing of their own (female) offspring just to make a statment that they're determined not to integrate, nor to let their kids integrate in the Western society.

The PC majority applauds this as a welcome increase in diversity. Like some others around here, I am more and more confused about the role of the Left in this process. Left liberals, with gender and sexual equality high on their agenda, are (or should be) as far from the Islamic medieval ideology as you can get, so I just can't figure out why they love the muslim fundamentalists so much. As a liberal myself, I am not happy with much of the Left-bashing on this site - but more than anyone, I'd love to see the western Left open their eyes and realize that diversity looks like New York, not like Jeddah.

Naseem~ I've been reading Catherine for a while, and I've started to notice something. I am willing to bet that, if she sat down and worked very carefully, she could write one hell of a response to you. I think she's disguising herself.

btw- can you recommend any teas that would help me get One decent night's sleep?

Naseem, I'm not a heavy hitter around here either. However, your questions don't require one. One of the many problems with Muslims is the fact that they consider themselves a race, religion, and nationality all wrapped into one screwed up package.

Bombing the (crap) out of Islamic states which harbor killers is justified. For far too long, Muslims have sat on their asses with their mouthes closed, instead of rising up against their own extremists and eliminating them.

We can't let these lizards run loose making bombs and swinging machetes, so they must be killed. Since Muslims in general refuse to clean up their own messes, we're going to do it, so we don't have anymore racist assholes run planes into our buildings.

Why haven't Muslims been expelled from the nations they've infested? You may claim to think outside of the box, but your head is up your ass if you think Muslims aren't being booted out of several countries, or denied access altogether. Ask Cat Stevens, or Tariq Ramadan.....

The Muslim caliphate agenda has been hampered because here in America, Muslim immigration has been restricted, and nations like Norway are calling for the banishment of the Qur'an and the immigration of anymore Muslims. The Brits are tired of Muslim bullshit as well. Muslims in Canada want laws changed to eliminate anything that offends them. You should know that the world is changing. This change brings about the fact that most of us don't give a shit what offends you. Who in the hell do Muslims think they are?

The cockroaches that killed 156 children in Beslan, Russia have thrown gas on a dangerous fire. One Russian child asked one of your heroes if he could have a drink of water, and the prick ran a bayonet through him.

Let us not forget about Sudan while we're at it. Face facts, Islam has declared war on the civilized world, so war it is. Stop playing this off like Muslims are the victims.

If they're victims of anything, it's their own leadership, illiteracy, and most importantly, their book of scripture, which is violent, century-impaired racism, and should be locked away forever. With this evedence presented, I suggest that you piss off.

Hello Mr. Gary,

Nice talking to you, I always try to be civilised when writing, you folks may not like what I write but that's by the by. I just get the impression that Ms. Catherine is foaming at the mouth, when some things are close to hitting home. Her capitals just turn me off, & I only skim but she could have been making some good points.

I started asking the questions about forcable restrictions on muslims because I read so much here on just how fed up, the hate, the anger there is to muslims...so then remove them.

Mr JAI gave the answer that I was hoping when he said "Collectively speaking, we don't generally punish a group of persons (race, creed or ethnicity) because of the anti-social behavior of a few of it's members. Not all theists are literalists, not all Muslims are Jihadists".

And that's the truth, not all us want or like Jihad, but most of the postees here want all of us out, and I wanted to get that point across.

They worry about their way of living...but if truth be told the American way of life would still be preserved even if (Allah(swt) forbid) there was one 9/11 every year.

You also ask "can you recommend any teas that would help me get One decent night's sleep?"

Not sure that you are being flippant with that...but if you are on the level, I wouldn't recommend tea. The last time in England I came across "Night-time Milk" from Sainsbury's I think. It has extra melanin and helps you sleep more soundly, I'm sure there is an equivalent to it ion the states.

If you can't get to sleep beacuse you too busy thinking about Islam ...then ...um ...um....umm..Night-time milk conmes to mind.

Mr Watson,

You make some good points,

Bombing the (crap) out of Islamic states which harbor killers is justified.

"I too want to see barbarians removed, however the West being in a position of power has tried to manipulate things and actually made things worse".

It was the West who supported Saddam, they supported and trained Bin Laden too. Your blind support for Israel doesn't help the situation either. Unless & until the West doesn't see both sides, I cannot see much change and believe when I say that it makes me really sad.

Things don't happen without re-percussion,you want them to wear uniforms & stand in line to be shot, but they don't fight like that.

"If they're (muslims) victims of anything, it's their own leadership, illiteracy".

I have said this many times, I agree completely.
So you are changing regimes in Iraq (with Iran and Sirya to come) ...and in the posts above I thanked you for it.

"With this evedence presented, I suggest that you piss off".

I have, I am not in the US or UK (although perhaps you could contend that you need people like me to do what little I can to move Islam along, at least I recognise that it needs moving on); I am in Lahore, Pakistan.

A pleasure that we agree on so much.

Gary it the new bride she can help you sleep?

September 24, 2004

Seams that nasseeem does not know the difference between voice and print? Wrote something about yelling? How sad! Such a STUPID WOMAN? As far as toner sounds like she better keep hers, 2 children must NEED IT as she said a small large woman? Here I might want to lose 5 lbs but I’m 5’8” size 8 green eyes honey blond hair to the small of my back and that’s no lie and Shoot Straight and True! When I was in Tunis had to hire a body guard to see the country side and still had a sweater stole for my smell so I was told? I was harassed by “hi hi bibi” and even had some camel jockey follow me back to Roma? Glad now I carry a 2nd Add everywhere! I DO NOT FELL SORRY FOR MULSUM WOMEN THEY LET THIS HAPPEN TO THEMSELVES AMERICAN WOMEN STOPPED THAT CRAP YEARS AGO AND WILL NOT LET MULSUMS BRING THAT KIND OF CRAP TO OUR SHORES? As far as caps I like to see them ! cause I know the difference between sound and PRINT!!!

Guys who have web pages get some of the video of what saddam did to his people the Bucher and all the hands cut off and all the old women crying at the mass graves that will be an effective tool this is why the LIB Media sits on these videos? How can the Mulsum world like to see what MONSTERS they support!! For every one the monster show. Show ones that mulsums do to other mulsums and there is plenty of feed!!

Yea nasseem è alcuni Grasso stupido donne che ama alcuni terrorista e è in questa guerra sullo torto fianco? Lei la donna stupida che lavoro fuori ogni mattina sembra come lei ha avuto l'inizio migliore. Perché sotto la sua legge che il suo mostro può trovare e sposa un bambino? Come malato ciò è? Come è venuto lei non parla mai del saddam di mostro che ha ucciso 300,000 Iracheno quanti persone di Iran che ha ucciso sopra un milione? L'Ovest non lo lascerà gira questo in un simile a sporco-foro lei ha fatto l'Est Medio! LEI SONO UN MALATO MATTO STUPIDO DONNA!


Per quelli che sono italiano dolente mio è la scrittura non è bene! Mio è di capire come dico che parla come un 2 anno vecchio ma capisce il biondo spiacente bene ! Fa Irene Grande ha qualunque musica nuovo
otto e mezzo Io amore e Nek!! Non a pauroso noi la volontà eleggere G.W.Bush!!

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3746350/detail.html
Watson looks like your terrorist are making it into the places you thought to be safe?

Ck your 6?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15240

Saw some cops bring down a FAT mussi last night on the news and people were laughing was a replay moment!! was in C.Ohio!!

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