UK: Dr. Clifford responds

Dr Clifford is right, there is indeed a high level of support here now for a serious reappraisal of Islam. Despite the best efforts of apologists like the BBC and the Guardian, the message is getting out, and it's not a happy one for our Muslim 'friends'.

There is World Wide support for Rev Clifford including those from other religions . It is Dr Gibson and his Leftist friends who are 'out of touch' and have never looked at the Qur'an. Hang in there, Rev!

Well said. Keep it up!

The success of the Islamic movement depends on realizing unity of Ummah

Muslim unity is not a theory or a vague, unrealistic ideal. Allah refers to the Muslims as one Ummah (Al-Qur’an 21:92) and the believers as brothers/sisters (49:10). These realities have enormous implications for the conduct of Muslim affairs, yet neither is reflected in public policy, even if most Muslims instinctively recognise fellow Muslims as brothers and sisters in faith. In practice, the Muslim world is divided along numerous fault-lines, and nationalism reigns supreme. Muslim rulers guard their turf viciously, paying scant attention to the plight of any people, their own or others. This was not always the case. Barely 80 years ago Muslims had recognised themselves as a global community led by a khilafah, even if the institution had been weakened by centuries of deviation from the norms established by the Messenger of Allah (saw) and his righteous successors (ra).

It is tempting to blame the kuffar for the disintegration of the Ummah, but the fact is that the Muslims' own weaknesses enabled others to subjugate them, and then to impose alien systems on them. The seeds of this weakness stemmed from an internal conflict that Malek Bennabi called "the first rupture in the Ummah", when Mu'awiyya rebelled against the legitimate authority of Imam Ali (ra). Even so, the essential unity of the Ummah remained largely intact because most Muslims were aware of their obligations in the deen. This explains why even such a terrible figure in Muslim history as Hajjaj bin Yusuf responded to the cries of Muslimahs on their way to Hajj, when they were attacked by pirates off the coast of present-day Pakistan. He sent an army to deal with the pirates and the local ruler sheltering them. Today the cries of Muslim women, in Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq, Bosnia and Palestine, go unanswered because Muslims are divided and our rulers are subservient to the kuffar.

For Muslims unity is not a choice; it is a necessity. The kuffar have long understood its importance; Britain clings to Uncle Sam because its rulers understand the significance of power. The US is a military as well as an economic power; Britain has long been in decline, yet it is able to play a global political role because it is part of the US system. If the kuffar can unite to impose an unjust system on the world, why are the Muslims unable to unite for a just cause? Unfortunately Muslims have accepted alien values that are at odds with the principles and ethics of the deen.

Whenever the issue of Muslim unity is discussed, the first question that arises is: under whose leadership? The overwhelming majority of rulers in the Muslim world lack political legitimacy; if they do not represent the people even in their own jurisdiction, how can they possibly claim to speak on behalf of the Ummah? Yet this has not prevented dictators like general Pervez Musharraf or the tribal rulers of ‘Saudi' Arabia from claiming to speak on behalf of the Ummah. Muslim regimes claim that the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC), which includes 57 Muslim countries, symbolises the unity of the Ummah; in fact, as Muslims everywhere recognise, it represents only the regimes themselves.

The unity of the Muslim Ummah, which at the moment manifests itself largely in popular demonstrations in support of the Palestinians, Kashmiris, Iraqis, Chechens and other Muslims under attack, can only be translated into action and achievement if there is a clear recognition that the leading edge of the Islamic movement must be accepted as the leader of the movement. At the moment that role belongs to Islamic Iran. Unfortunately the enemies of Islam – both within the Ummah and outside it – have succeeded in alienating many Muslims from the Islamic Revolution on sectarian and nationalist grounds, blinding them to the fact that the essence of the Islamic Revolution, and the model is represents, transcend its Iranian and Shi’i context and offers invaluable leadership and lessons for all Muslims.

The achievement of the goals of the Islamic movement, beginning with the development of modern conceptual tools based on Islamic sources and principles, depends on Muslims recognising the experiences and achievements of other Islamic movements, whoever and wherever they may be, instead of fighting among ourselves and looking for solutions to the ideas and models of those who have subjugated us.

[Zafar Bangash is Director of the Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought (ICIT) in Toronto, Canada.]

source: http://muslimedia.com/mainpage.htm

since islam is so thoroughly satanic,

i think it will take the personal intervention
of the Lord to stop it.

mankind appears impotent in regards to stopping it thus far.

i am afraid that it plays into end time bible scenarios perfectly:

israel, oil, western decadence, islam, etc.

thank you dr. clifford for taking a brave stand nonetheless and all posters on jihadwatch.org.

thank you also mr. spencer for providing such a vital forum.

may many turn to the light of Christ while there is still time.

the handwritting is on the wall!

One writer who had the goods on Islam was Canon W. Gairdner, who wrote in the first two decades of this century. HIs study of Muhammad, written in response to Muslims who were celebrating the life of this "role model," is a classic (see back issues of what used to be called "The Moslem World"). See also Gairdner's piece in "Islam and Mission," a collection of essays edited by Zwemer, himself an acute student of Islam.

Rev. Clifford has, in his corner, not only Canon Gairdner and Zwemer, but such great and scrupulous scholars as Henri Lammens, and Sir William Muir, and Snouck Hurgronje (see his 2 volumes on the residents of Aceh, in the Dutch East Indies), and K. S. Lal, and Mary Boyce (the great expert on what was done, under Islam, to the Zoroastrians), and Sir Jahundath Sarkar, and Koenraad Elst, and David Margoliouth, and Joseph Schacht, and Bat Ye'or, and Charles-Emmanuel Dufourcq, and Edmond Fagnan, and another hundred, two hundred, of the greatest scholars of Islam -- all of whom are no longer read because by and large, they have been overlooked and forgotten by some, and by others, the vast army of apologists for Islam, both Muslim and non-Muslim, who have seized control -- either through the clever deployment of Arab money (the University of Exeter, Georgetown's Center for Contemporary Arab Studies and Esposito-Zoll-Haddad's Arab-funded Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, that is undoubtedly, in the effect of the misinformation it has consistently offered and which has been believed by some innocent policymakers, contributed to beliefs that, in the end, must have cost the lives of Americans who, otherwise, might be alive.

Graduate students, undergraduate students in Middle Eastern and Islamic studies -- look above, and look up those authors. Consult the Index Islamicus. You can find out about Islam, you do not have to accept the lies and propaganda of your teachers who present the sanitized Sells version of the Qur'an, or who explain away the "Jihad," or who direct your attention to "colonialism" or "postcolonialism" and under no circumstances will allow you to study the Qur'an, the hadith, the sira and what those passages mean to Believers. You must do it on your own -- guerrilla learning. Do it, and then smile outwardly to your instructors, take your degrees, and when you have a chance, either in government service, or the army, or as journalists, expose their nonsense and lies as best you can. And if you stay in academic life, keep notes, lie in wait, make sure you monitor every agent of Islam, for this kind of thing cannot go on. Not forever.

And alumni should be alerted to do the same. And those university presidents who refuse to closely monitor the scandalous situation themselves, perhaps can be persuaded not only by those who will permanently withhold all contributions, but by the faculty members outside MIddle Eastern studies, who will feel the budget tightening themselves, and who for other reasons as well may wish to watch, more closely, the antics of those who, not in all but in many uniniversities, presume to tell the truth about Islam (actually, Islam as a belief-system is the very last thing they want students to study -- everything but Islam is where they want attention directed, to "colonialism," to Israel, to -- whatever diversion or distraction you care to name).

The nonsense will only stop when the jobs, the security (and tenure did not protect those in World War II who continued to spout Nazi propaganda, and it certainly did not protect those who defended Stalin and Soviet Russia later on) of such people and the university's economic wellbeing, are under assault. It will come to that. And the sop of offering "another professor of Israel Studies" will, one hopes, be contemptuously rejected, as irrelevant, insulting, and completely missing the point.

The careerist university presidents are going to have to exhibit, or pretend to exhibit, just a little bit of interest in something other than fundraising -- the crisis is now here, it involves the widespread takeover by propagandists of Islam of Departments of Middle Eastern and Islamic STudies. What are those university administrators, so well paid, so cowardly, going to do about it? Anything? Nothing?

Thanks Hugh, that's a useful reading list.

Check it out Brits:

Two British infidels knifed (one killed) by maniac just after he was seen reading the Koran:

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/129/129309_woman_dies_in_knife_frenzy.html

Must have been all that peacefulness he found in the Koran that inspired him to such a peaceful action.

And the stupid cop says, "This is an unusual event." WTF? What's unusual about it? Does this idiot read the news?

"Consistent with my love and concern for all humanity, I continue to oppose Islam. The only antidote to this evil religion and its barbaric ethos is the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ".

God bless the Revd Dr Alan C. Clifford for having the courage and insight to make the above statement.

"Consistent with my love and concern for all humanity, I continue to oppose Islam. The only antidote to this evil religion and its barbaric ethos is the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ".

God bless the Revd Dr Alan C. Clifford for having the courage and insight to make the above statement.

Sorry for the double post.

We have to support them, he isn´t alone.

Keeping in touch with Dr Clifford and offering my continued support. But the question is how do we really support him, apart from moral support?

Any suggestions.

Hugh:

Any suggestion how we need to fight this war?

Morgane:

I have given up on Bjorn. He is an idealist, and firmly believes that tolerance is infinitely stretchable.

I emailed my support and got a wonderful reply from Rev. Clifford....he is a brave man.

Whoa, Hugh. Stunning as usual. I'm gonna put this up on the Political Sc. notice board in my campus, in the stealth of the night and wait and see how long the leftists allow it to remain in public view the next morning on!