More on the notorious Abu Hamza from WND, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
In a tape seized by authorities, radical Islamic cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri is heard urging Muslim women to breed children for the purpose of creating suicide bombers....The recording, one of dozens handed over to authorities, was reported by British investigative journalist Neil Doyle in his new book "Terror Tracker," which chronicles his efforts to penetrate the internal workings of the al-Qaida terrorist network.
Hamza has been indicted by the U.S. on 11 terrorism charges. Authorities are studying the tape to build a case for the cleric's extradiction to the U.S, Doyle said....
In the lecture reported by Doyle, Hamza refers to a suicide bombing in Israel and says: "Last week we seen a mother ... she put happiness in the hearts of every Muslim on earth and for years to come.
"She took her son, she took him herself, and she filmed a video with him for him to go and do a martyrdom operation against the Zionists.
"She's encouraging him. She's left a message for the Ummah [Islamic nation] – "this is my son, I'm giving him for you, for the Ummah of Mohammad to wake up, for the mothers to follow!
"And he wrote a will and said how much his mother she was encouraging him. And she was waiting all night and after that he went for his mission. Waiting all night, not for the news that her son had passed his A-level [British school exam] or he has got his degree, or he has married the most beautiful woman in the club, but he was shaheed [martyred] and he inflict a lot of suffering and terror in the hearts of Zionists!
"... this happened right now in the front of us, in the television [sic], we have seen the tape, you've seen the video – if you haven't seen it, go and ask for it!
"Everywhere, these are the women of mass destruction to the kuffar [unbelievers], and these are the action [sic] that put terror in their hearts.
"This kind of women, when they miss their killed children, they don't go and look for their graves ... they look for their position in paradise, so they become more happy, more anxious to go and see them, they want to sacrifice more and more."
These islamist clerics never EVER volunteer themselves for suicide bombing missions. They never get their own family members to blow themselves up either. They are first class hypocrits.
This Hamza cretin is quite happy to get brainwash someone elses mother so they will get their sons and daugters to explode themselves. How delightful he thinks. I can get all the power I want, enjoy the perks, satisfy my meglomaniac power lust and no-one I like has to die. Perfect!!! Some poor stupid idiot that I don't give a damn for gets to do the dying bit for me.
These psychopaths are playing the power game and any dirty trick will do.
One wonders why Hook Hamza is not volunteering his own children for the 'sacrifice ' - he has at least 7 brats and a second wife living on Welfare in Britain?? The attitude to encourage women to give birth to children so they can be manipulated and exploded later for unholy Islamic Clerics such as this vicious psychopath is a shocker.
Hope Hamza has a 'heart attack' in jail and SOON.
Better still help him on his way BY THRUSTING THE BIGGEST PORK CHOP YOU CAN FIND INTO HIS UGLY GOB!!
Oil and human capital are Islam's only resources at the moment. Sooner or later the oil will run out and the Islamic breeding machines will keep pumping out their means of making Islam triumphant over the earth -- billions brainwashed in a fanaticism of ignorance and intolerance.
Unfortunately the only solution is abhorrent and inhumane. It's wishful thinking to believe that Islam can be modified or that the Mullahs and fundamentalists will voluntarily give up their dream of the triumphalism of the supra-Islamic state. They will never give up the dream which was put on hold and will always be kept on hold to threaten again rather than to be abandoned.
This is the perfect example of how Islam is so abhorrent, so disgusting, so vile. Feeling proud, are we Muslims? Pumped up? Victorious?
Yeah, okay, women will just "breed", like a rabbit or rat or cockroach. No problem. Just like that. No emotional attachment. No maternal instinct. We're just "breeders". Semen-catchers, sperm-incubators. That's what women are to Islam. How do the lefties out there justify this? Why do you protect and defend such a vile belief system? Where's the equal rights? The feminism?
Abu Hamza - give up your litter for your nefarious purposes. Give them all up, one by one, before you encourage some dumb immigrant cow from some backward Islamic shithole to sacrifice her baby. Hypocrite. Disgusting, putrid, Islamic hypocrite. Oh, what a wonderful religion! So peaceful, so ethical, so spiritual. Pffft! Load of crap.
It's amazing that the British keep Abu Hamza and so many of his ilk in the country.
Incitement is supposed to be a hate crime here, but obviously these laws don't apply if you're a Muslim!
Ah yes the breeding and raising of suicide bombers; What I am going to tell you about I have not seen in contex ever but you had better believe it is the truth.
Moslems have to be brainwashed from the very beginning IE: womans rights, media exposure,schools,basic living quarters,etc. They know not freedom so they are just led by misgivings to do dirty work; Now take the US and her all VOLUNTARY Military as well as her Leaders and ask any one of them if they would VOLUNTEER for an incursion that might lead to their death(suicide mission),When I served in the US NAVY WE AFFIRMED that we Swore to uphold the greatest NATION in the history of the WORLD and that we would be put into harms way at any given moment and that we may be asked to make the ultimate sacrifice for the good of the NATION,twenty years later these feelings still hold true for me as well as most of my VETERAN BROTHERS,ask us if we would go back to again affirm our FREEDOM, ask non veterans and civilians to see what they give to preserve FREEDOM for their children and grandchildren.How long does it take to brainwash a fanatic? FREEDOM IS NOT FREE and we know IT.
YKWH AKBAR
This makes my arse lauagh!!! If Captain Hook is so sure the gullible zombies he's been recruiting will go to paradise right after they blow themselves apart among "zionists", why didn't the hooking bastard do it himself (you can imagine him exploding , blood,guts and flab flying in every direction; then the smoke clears to reveal his hook lying cartoon-esque in the centre of a smouldering crater, with a jewish spy, posing as a muslim, stood just behind laughing with a remote detonator in his hand.....)
I've heard in a newspaper that the slobbish hook-handed pirate is converting convicts in Broadmoor to islam, no doubt telling them that it's a religion of peace before asking them if they feel like blowing up some buildings, killing innocent people, raping/killing children, or decapitating bound hostages.
Prison, looking at things logically is the perfect place for a giant pig such as Ham-za, to find recruits : A criminal religion requires criminal followers.
How does this thugish monster command any respect, why wasn't he arrested as soon as he entered the UK, or better still shot.... where are the BNP when you need them.
When you look at this perfect example of the evil face of islam it makes you wonder how anyone can defend it, or why the haven't yet clicked onto the huge threat it/they pose. I just wish some neo-nazi gang would batter the living excretae out of him , put him in his place, then slice his throat, or is he getting special treatment (another discusting fact: Muslims are given special priveleges, such as extra meals, longer association for prayer, during ramadan)
They should hurry up and extradite his fat-ass to the states where he'll get the treatment and sentence he deserves : DEATH......
Incessant breeding -- how often does one read in dispatches from Iraq about so-and-so, with 12 children, or someone else, with 10 children, or someone else, with a small family of 8 children -- is a problem for Infidels, because within the Infidel lands the percentage of Muslims steadily rises, and within the Muslim lands, overpopulation causes more and more people to travel, legally or clandestinely (the end result is the same) to the Bilad al-Kufr. If, in the Infidel lands, such people left their belief-system at the door or douane -- if that is they had some dawing realization that what makes their own countries so intolerable is, in fact, that very belief-system, and its effects on political acceptance of despotism and the ready recourse to, and submission to, violence, on economics (the fatalism of "inshallah" which affects so many, combined with the pressures to conform in every way to a belief-system that not only does not foster individual achievement, but actively suppresses it, in favor of the "umma" --the Bigger Umma of Believers, and the Lesser Umma of family or tribe or locale.
There is no need for a Muslim woman to "produce" a suicide-bomber. Those will come, naturally, and in any case, the mere fact of Muslim overbreeding is thought to swell Muslim power and, if nothing is done to limit immigration, nor to expel all Muslim non-citizens and make life a bit less Muslim-friendly in the Infidel world (instead of every Western government doing the opposite, and ostentatiously demonstrating just how well-disposed it is to the religion that "only a few extremists have tried to hijack."
One plaintive appeal: before any government official makes these kind of remarks, will he or she please study Qur'an and hadith (the sayings and acts and even silences of Muhammad) and sira (Muhammad's biography, important because Muhammad was the most perfect of men, and should be imitated in all ways). And by study I do not mean study with a Muslim apologist or with the likes of John Esposito. I mean real study, includng the works of historians of Islam and of dhimmitude -- K. S. Lal, Bat Ye'or, Mary Boyce, Vahakh Dadrian, and others. Is that too taxing? Is that too much to task?
Their sick religious sermons don't call for introspection or good deeds. They call for the killing of Zionists, pigs and apes( that's us).
They urge their children not to love their brother as themselves but to cause them to suffer. They discuss such nobel, altrustic matters like, is it proper to cut off the head of an infidel swiftly, or would sawing it off cause more suffering?! Why haven't they shipped this ghoul packing? Because of liberal European pandering.
This is why we can't afford to have a liberal administration in office here in America. All of you Kerryites have to ask yourself, why do Muslims resent George W Bush? Why are the majority of American Muslims voting for Kerry? Why? Because they hate Israel and because of the Bush doctrine of preemptive war -- taking it to these bastards first! Kerry says he will wait for them to 'hit us first, then he will attack (after kissing the ass of the UN and getting a permission slip)We will end up like Spain and France with the most liberal Senator in America as President. The thought of it makes me tremble...
Europe, and especially Britain, is a hot bed of these Jihadists "clerics".
The disgrace is that Tony Blair won't call them by their name, nor clamp down on them.
I'm in daily communication with a Brit, via another forum, who complains that the effete salesman Blair
coddles and protects the Muslims, because he wants their vote (sound familiiar? Spell Bush here).
Some comments from him:
"Here in the UK the Pakistani Muslims are getting arrested for building biological bomb factories in London, Abu Hamza and his Elite Squad have been preaching openly in the London streets about 'cutting out the eyes of unbelievers,for they use them not to see' since 1996 ............
.......and yet, last week an American Professor of Vivisection (now no longer works with animals) and anatomy with about twelve MD's to his name, was banned from coming to the UK to speak at a Animal Rights conference on his speciality subject "Why Vivisection Does Not Help Humans" specifically relating to the 12 million people who have died globally from medicines that were tested on animals and then turned out to be toxic for humans,and the difference of human/animal immune systems. Basically, monkeys and dogs and cats, wired up to brain-electrodes for months of agony then death, to produce pharmacueticals that are actually deadly to humans. The Home Secretary, David "Blind" Blunkett (sponsored by Pharmacom PLC) , banned the proffessor from entering the UK, because of his "extreme views", and the Professor had to address the 10,000 conference via a video-link!
Meanwhile,they are in no hurry to ban Jihadists from speaking in the UK,and they take almost 2 years to deport Abu Hamza to the U.S. where hopefully he will get life in prison and become the 'wife' of an 800-pound crackhead called Leroy".
"Tony Blair was born to be a petty tyrant. He's the classic advertising man, trying to sell crap nobody wants, with a nasty suit and a colgate smile. Trying to sell people things ,when you deep down know that these people hate you & wish you'd stop trying to sell them things, can do weird and unhealthy things to a mind. Most ad agencies have at least one coke-snorting, artery-busting Petty Tyrant, permanently ready to explode.
The fact that Blair is now prime-minister does not change this. If he had been behind the counter in Blockbusters renting videos to people, he would still have been a petty tyrant.........its his nature."
"Funny-as-hell watching the slithering worm Blair talking about "our Turkish friends" in the same sentence as "that evil-man-Saddam".
Thats the kind of hypocrisy that can actually be seen from space. "
Here's what he said about Blair and Bush
"They are both spineless International Playboys who don't give a flying f**k what happens to their home countries. They are more concerned about their golf handicap & their private tropical retirement island than the Islamic bio-bomb factories blossoming all over London, Bradford, Birmingham(UK)."
I watch BBC America and DW-TV (German TV) daily, and they bend over backwards to avoid the "M" word, or to connect it with terrorism, even the Belsan massacre.
Must be a lot of Muslim money in England and Europe (there is, thanks to our relationship and dependence on the Saudi's, not to mention George Bush being butt buddies with the Saudi "Royals", even calls Prince Bandar, Bandar Bush.
Here's how depraved Blairs Britain is.
First UK Islamic Bank Opens Doors
"The savings account will not offer interest on savers' funds; instead the bank will trade in Sharia compliant investments and share the profits with savers."
[Giaour says : "Sharia compliant investments = bio-bombs"]
Note the part about
Quote: The bank plans on setting up other branches around the country, in Birmingham and Leicester in November 2004, with a further eight branches planned in 2005.
My UK Friend continues:
"Thats at least *ten* more Islamic Banks built in the UK,in the next 12 months. One a month.
This is so the Clean& Chosen islamosauruses don't have to stand in line with the filthy unclean Infidel pig-dogs, when they come to deposit their oil-money and their Social-security frauds,and their paedophilic white-child-sex-slave-network profits.
As far as I'm aware no other country in Europe apart from Turkey has Islamic banks. Now the UK has got one, with another 10 (minimum) to be built over the next year.
I'm f**king outraged. "
This is what I find so disturbing and one day will give me an ulcer:
You and I know what is in store for our children and grandchildren if this is allowed to continue. But the people who govern this country are unable to grasp the reality? Why is the truth such a rare commodity? Why are we governed by spineless, politically correct cowards who will sell out our children's and grandchildrens inheritance for a bloody vote?
The majority of politicians except for a handful continue to cling to the canard that those Muslims who support terrorism and a future "Islamic States of America" are the exception to the rule. Do you believe that?
Who will fight for us? I'll tell you who will, we the ordinary citizens will. Because if we can't count on our elected officials to fight for our future there may one day be another civil war in our country.
Thank goodness, John Howard is back in and lets hope he is strong enough to deal with the hamzas of this world
Kemaste:
I agree about having a civil war in this country. With the Democrat-led voter fraud, the anti-American academics teaching in the colleges, the brainwashing of elementary school children, and the anti-American bias of the news media, the normal people of this country are just going to be driven to take up arms against those who want to destroy this country. It will probably happen after an election in which it is obvious that the Dhimmicratic candidate has cheated to gain office. I don't know if nuclear weapons would be used in the civil war, or if the country would just be divided. There may be two countries after this. Canada would be annexed by both countries to make up for the shortfall in territory and to get rid of the Islamic menace to the north.
I can't see having the same kind of country after this, at least not right away, since it will then have to deal with the existential threat of the Islamofascist dictatorship. The US may evolve into a fascist dictatorship which will join with the fascist dictatorships in Russia and China to wipe the Islamo-fascist cancer off the earth. All three of these countries have demographic problems with respect to the Islamo-fascists. India will have to be ethnically cleansed and this may be the end of World War IV when China, Russia, the US, and India stand up for the dhimmis against the Islamic hordes. Europe will be ethnically cleansed by the Anti-Islamic alliance. Islam will be recognized as a totalitarian, expansionist, ideology in the guise of a religion. Believers or advocates will be killed.
Politicians are figureheads and don't really think that ideas mean much. They are accustomed to compromising to get things done which is part of their job. There's no principle which will not be compromised.
No one really cares about the future beyond the next election cycle. You can see that many people in the West don't care much about the future. Look at the low birthrates, buying on credit and how the older people only really care about their benefits and prescription drugs. They'd sell some other people's kids down the river just to get into a better nursing home! I'm sure that the boomers would. They're a spoiled-rotten generation.
Metal muncher and kemaste:
Civil war seems almost inevitable to me. The later it happens the less the chances of the free world emerging victorious. We're all at a loss of how this will pan out probably because this kinda demographic/psycho-illogical and audacious invasion as islam's on the west has no historical parallel...
But as the aussies showed in their election, common sense and survival instinct will trump PC and monbatism. When the west is faced with an existential crisis of undeniable proportions, then will the real fiighting begin.
First of all, I'm glad that Abu Hamza tells the truth about islam. If he were not there, the project of takeover by demographic change, would continue in stealth. Abu Hamza, Bskri etal, are on our side, and I wish that they continue to inform all, what islam is about. Sadly, despite 9/11 and everything else after, the vast majotity of people still believe that islam is like any other religion.
feralee:
Sadly one of the women he was married to is English. Yes, she gave up her birthright of freedom to marry into islam. It is inexplicable why so many women in the West do the same.
Obl r us :
XLNT point,I too wonder why it is that if life for Palestinians has been so bad,then why aren't there older suicide bombers that have suffered far more than the young men.
These poor fools,they blindly follow the lies of men that have the grey beards few young men will ever see become of their own,now the cowards want someone elses child to die for their freedom by turning Female Muslims into
baby-factories for Allah's cause to slaughter Gods children.
BTW,watched a A&E show on Muhammad last night,seems he created a religion and found people to follow him to establish a communistic
society and rule it by a Political system based on Islam and the voices he heard in his head.
The paranoia of a psychopath is amazing,he fears Allah's will is under attack so he arms his Jihadists to slaughter non-Muslims that didn't pose a threat. Isn't this exactly why Muslims are angry at Bush and the USA,Bush is only doing what Muhammad did and striking a perceived enemy to protect the Peace.
DP111:
I think that women entering into marriages with Muslim men are just naiive, guilt-ridden, weak-minded dingbats who just want to be told what to do and to get their non-racist credentials established.
It comes with the self-loathing of the modern PC era, especially if you are of northern European ancestry, and the loss of confidence in the intellectual and moral superiority of Western culture which started before WWI. After WWI, the Western world lost its optimism and self-confidence and gave rise to two loathesome regimes. The Nazi attrocities only caused a further erosion in cultural confidence in the West.
The rise of the new Leftists and the post-communist leftists are only accelerating the trend toward cultural suicide. The Left's agenda now is destruction of the present, or "Death to America."
Horowitz wrote an excellent book on the ideological similarities between the post-commie left and the Islamofascists. It just came out. Essentially, the only thing animating the Left is nihilism. The Left really showed their true face after 9/11. In my mind, they are more evil than the Islamofascists, since at least the Islamofascists think that they are following their god's plan.
If Allah is so powerful, why does he need any terrestrial help from superstitious savages? It's sort of like that line in Star Trek movie (4 or 6) which was, "Why does God need a Starship?"
I was born quite a few years after WW II, so can't claim to recall, but it's as though too much of the world is in a state of denial that parallels the one in which people chose to disbelieve early reports of what Herr Hitler was up to. The refrain back then was, "but the Germans are educated people."
I have only recently become a computer user, had never touched a keyboard, therefore did not know how to type. My proficiency and skills leave a lot to be desired and typing is laborious,hence I have to keep my comments short. I'm not among the intellectual or scholarly elite, have written no books or subject theses. I do however have a brain with the common sense to see things for what they are. I, like many of my fellow countrymen see one hell of a lot of things going wrong in our country. We wonder why our country is being given away to foreign invaders pouring across our borders in the millions annually while our leaders turn a blind eye. We wonder why the multi culture crowd has gained the upper hand in our political process. We wonder why being a christian is something to be scorned. We wonder why our traditions are slowly being erroded. We wonder why those in the radical left wing democratic party cannot see the truth in the events going on around the globe. We wonder why so many of our countrymen already seem to have forgotten the tragedy of 9-11 as though it was some distant circumstance that really had no effect on them. Yes we wonder about these things and much,much, more. We wonder and we wait,..and wait. What is it going to take for the citizens of this country to come together as one, galvanized in the common cause for the good of the country? Our political process is presently divided as I have never seen it in my lifetime. The democratic party is becoming ever more radical and militant. The barbarians are at our gate and half the country can't see them. If 9-11 was not the wake up call what will be? I'm fearful that we in the USA are going to have to pay a very terribly high price before the country is truly united in the common effort to win the war. As tragic as 9-11 was, I believe as far as our enemy is concerned that was just for openers.
feralee: "Essentially, the only thing animating the Left is nihilism"
The nihilism of the Left is precisely that. The Left's guts were knocked out by the demise of the Soviet Union and the collapse of communism worldwide. The worst was that even Marxism, the ideology, was laid to rest, surviving only in academia and among student activists. All that is left of the Left are pretentions, and an abiding sense of injury.
Look at some of the Australian Lefty papers as they seethe and whine. John Howard won with an increased majority. How could that be asks the Left - after all the pontifications of Lefty academics, celebrities and trendy stars, had told the unwashed how to vote. This anger is going to get worse if GWB beats Kerry. When I read some of the stuff on Lefty blogs, it is clear that quite a few are near to apoplexy. If Bush wins, I fear that it wont take much for the Left to physically join with the jihadis. Civil war!
What a strange time we live in. I was born after WWII, but I get the feeling that a similar confusion must have reigned at the time.
PS: A nice post BTW.
Metal Muncher:
Demographics will eventually lead to Islamic separatist movements in Europe. Bradfordistan etc will be the talk of the News media in the coming decades. There is no doubt of this eventuality. It is predictable, as it is mandated in the koran.
What you write of a global war against Islam, extending from muslim nations to within our own societies, is too nightmarish a forecast. Not so much for me, as it is unlikely I will be alive to see the day, but for my children and their children. Such a war would involve everyone, right down to the street level in the West, quite unlike WWI and WWII. Oh no, the very thought is too frightening. I for one would much rather we cease all muslim immigration and assist those muslims who find the civilised life inimical to them, to find a home in dar al islam. Far better we live apart then this global war that permeates down to the street level. The casualties in such a war will be unimaginable, and it wont be one-sided either.
It is instructive to examine India. After 1000 years of civil strife between Hindus and Muslims, India eventually lost territories to Muslims in the form of Pakistan and Bangladesh. Very few Hindus are now left in either of these two countries, while 40 million muslims in India at the time partition, has grown to 140 million now. Civil strife in the form of burning of Hindus in trains, bombs in Bombay, and the insurgency in Kashmir, still continue, despite the setting up of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Take note. This is also our future. The Jihad is not just about capturing infidel land but to capture his places of intellectual and social life, and to ceaselessly harry the infidel so that he never rests in peace. In the last, the Jihad has succeeded admirably. Our peace of mind has been shattered for good. We cannot travel by plane, coach or train without fear of the suicide muslim bomber. We cannot go to a mall or theatre without worrying the same. Is this to be our life for the foreseeable future? Isn’t the price high enough? How far are we willing to pay?
Metalmuncher, et al:
I see that you have bought into the false dichotomy of Republican v Democrat, left v right etc.
Face it both political parties (and all major media) are owned by corporations, which themselves are owned and controlled by about 800 families.
You are vehemently anti Democrat, yet it is your George W. Bush and indeed the powers behind the Republican party that are in bed with the Wahhabi's, the Saudis. To the extent that they all own shares in the likes of The Caryle Group. The Saudis even bailed out a Jew (Eisner) by investing $300 million in his Eurodisney.
It's all a con game.
It was Muslim votes in Florida especially, that George Bush courted,and which that funder of Terrorism al Arian provided (to the tune of 50,000) that put him in the Whitehouse.
It's all a con game, but in case you passed over it in other posts I repeat: Osama Bin Laden is betting on Bush.
This is what Imad Khadduri,( a former Iraqi nuclear scientist with the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission from 1968-1998. He is author of the book Iraq's Nuclear Mirage} said October 7th on Democracy Now
Source:Interview with Imad Khadduri
This Dem v Pub, left v right, liberal v conservative is a shell game. The Powers that be control all sides of the arugment.
This has to be one of the most racist websites I have ever come across. Not the subject headings, but the people that populate it. You all make me ashamed to be American. Educate yourselves, please. The comments I've read here make my heart heavy. I can't believe the generalizations I am reading. I think I'm going to be sick.
Which race is Islam again, what? I've seen Muslims who are black, brown, white and in between. So how is this site "racist"? We are talking about a belief system like Communism, Nazism. We're talking about Islam. It makes our heart heavy too, to hear the TRUTH about it. Not the PeeCee "Islam is Peace" BS we've been hearing for years. But the unadulterated, unsanitized, unfiltered TRUTH that many people wish to hide from the world. We have educated ourselves. We learned about Islam. Its origins, its founder, its intentions, its practises. And sorry, after doing that, we can't sit here and say wonderful things about such an awful, dangerous belief system. We don't hate Muslims. We hate Islam. Most of us feel sorry for most Muslims, for they too, are kept in the dark about Islam. Fed lies and whitewashed stories about what its really about. Few of them are given choice or freedom to think for themselves or leave. They are trapped. By evil.
So what's your opinion of the subject of this particular thread? What do you think of this Abu Hamza person telling women to BREED kids for the purpose of committing mass murder? How come that doesn't shock you as much as we do? How come those of us who damn and rail against this horrid man are labelled awful racists while you're silent about this horrid man? I'm a mother of two beautiful kids. How do you think I feel to read the words of such a puke, praising women to raise their kids to be mass murderers, to sacrifice them, to never see them grow and mature into productive, creative adults, to bury them? How do you think I should react?
I apolagize for using the word "racist," as I couldn't think of another word to describe all of you guys' hatred of this religion. My thoughts on this fellow and people like him? They are not representative of the religion. These are mentally unstable people in the position of social influence. It has nothing to do with the religion. If I used the way you guys did to critisize a religion, I could base my thoughts on Christianity around the fact that some have murdered abortion doctors and many priests have molested young boys. This would lead me to believe that Christianity is a religion of underage homosexuality and murder. But you know what? I don't think that, because I know that there are good and bad people in the world. And just because the bad people get more publicity in this world, it doesn't they're representative of their respective religion. I suggest, before you pass judgements on a religion, to go spend some time with a local muslim family. Or, ask if you can visit their mosque. You will see the true Islam. I've known many muslims in my life, and they never fail to impress me with their purity and kindness. It seems like many of you are extemely paranoid and scared of something you do not understand. I know these words will fall upon blind eyes, but I don't expect anyone to receive me kindly here since I appear to be sympathetic to religion you claim is sinister and vile. I just couldn't pass by without saying something to defend it. Good day.
It doesn't take much for losers like "what" to be ashamed of being American does it ? I guess even a ring tone on a phone would make our PC friend ashamed. I wonder if "what" has lived in saudi Arabia or Iran and seen "pure" islam at work. No probably not - "what" is one of those armchair "liberals" who think everyone in the world (except "evil racist whites of course) just want to live in peace and harmony. Sorry some of us offended your PC sensibilities "what". But if you're so bothered about being American why don't you offer to swap places with a non-muslim in Sudan, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Saudi, Eygpt, Pakistan ? Wake up "what" - we're at war ! Just as we were with Nazi Germany and like the Nazis islam will lose. Of course, liberals like you will want nothing to do with "fighting the war" but it won't stop you enjoying all the benefits and freedoms our way of life has to offer will it ?
i just read "what"'s second post MUSLIM TROLL ALERT ! Notice the comment about Catholics and homosexulaity (classic muslim defence of islam - point finger at another religion), the comment about meeting "many pure & kind muslims" (didn't they ever meet pure, kind Christians, Jews, Aethists ?) and the dead giveaway - "go visit a mosque". Nice try "what" but your muslim propaganda doesn't wash here. You can just see "what" living in Nazi Germany can't you - "I've met many nice, friendly Nazis " or "You should visit Herr Himmler at home, spend time with his family -they're all wondeful people. so you see there's nothing wrong with the Nazis. We're just misunderstood." bye, bye troll....
Re: "whats" position that the murdering scum we're at war with has nothing to do with religion just confirms my convictions that the so called "moderate Moslims" are part and parcel to the overall Islamic problem. Their refusal to denounce what is going on with their religion further convinces me they are condoning by proxy the actions of their "brothers". "What" may or may not be Muslim, I don't know and don't care.But this much I do know, the psychopathic cut throat of Baghad wasn't reading from the bible just before he butchered innocent terrified men while bound hand and foot. I'm afraid "What" is just another of the ignorant apologists who cannot see the forest for the trees.
Beware Americans,the moslem sons of satan are among us.It is too bad United States law protects these inhuman butchers untile they actualy attempt
to butcher good people.They will not stop untile America is under their power.If the American people don't wake up this will come to be.
Onewhowalkstall
American of the Mohawk Nation
Son of Albion:
Good muslim troll-spotting.You get the credit for calling it first. Good work - note the telltale linguistic signs for the future.
What:
"The comments I've read here make my heart heavy."
Which comments?
"I can't believe the generalizations I am reading. I think I'm going to be sick."
Then go read some Muslim website dealing with Israel and Jews...
"I could base my thoughts on Christianity around the fact that some have murdered abortion doctors and many priests have molested young boys."
Small problem - people who murder abortion doctors or priests who molest young boys do not DIRECTLY use scriptures to attempt to justify their actions - unlike our man Hamza and other Muslim clerics...
"I suggest, before you pass judgements on a religion, to go spend some time with a local muslim family. Or, ask if you can visit their mosque. You will see the true Islam. I've known many muslims in my life, and they never fail to impress me with their purity and kindness. "
Taqiyya??