Al-Azm: No clash of civilizations

Not rot.
NOT.

I couldn`t have said it better myself.
The obvious thing to do though,for the civilized world,is to amputate the "rot",excise it with surgical precision and proceed to focus all its energy,power and creativity towards defeating the infamous enemy:ISLAM.

I feel like we're ancient Rome being overun by the barbarians.

I feel like we're ancient Rome being overun by the barbarians.

Overrun by barbarians - exactamundo! They will do to us what the barbarians did to the Romans if we don't take action.

A few dozen of their eggs managed to smash two of our largest cement stones three years ago.

Islam may not be able to build planes but they can do what we can not do
Hijack and fly them into buildings and kill thousands.
Islam may not be able to build cars
but they know how to load them with explosives and kill innocents.
Islam my not be able to build trains but.....
They know how to steal our stones and use them against us.

Now we have Islamic nuclear bommbs to add to the list.

Does anyone think that they would not use them against us without the slighest provacation ?

But what instead of a hen's egg, we substitute the egg of a parasite, say a worm that feeds on its host until the host dies? The host with all his advantages as a rational being, is replaced by thousands of worms.

ISLAM weapons.Demographics,high birth rate,immigration,using the west laws and civil liberties against us and they think that god is on there side.

What an idiotic argument.

A bacterium is a tiny weak little blob. Easily crushed by an egg. And yet, get a few of those blobs in the lining of your heart and let them multiply and you are a goner.

I remember watching a program about ancient Rome. It stated that prior to Constantine becoming emperor the Roman tactic for managing the barbarians on the western frontier acroos the Rhine river was to engage in periodic raids/ethnic cleansing so as to devastate barbarian communities so their power and population was held in check. This had been the ruthless pagan way of dealing with Romes enemies...totally ruthless but it worked. The Romans then had vast economic, technological and military superiority over the barbarians on their western frontier.

Then when Constantine became the first christian emperor he changed Roman policy towards the barbarians radically. Keeping the barbarians in check by engaging in regular ethnic cleansing/genocide against them was seen as too unchristian/cruel.

Henceforth he decreed that the raids against barbarians would stop and instead they would be paid money/gold in exchange for pledging not to attack Rome. The barbarians were therefore allowed for the first time to settle in the lands across the Rhine and live in peace with Rome.

As a result they prospered and their population greatly increased requiring ever increasing sums of Roman gold to placate them. Eventually the sums of money need to buy off the barbarians became so great that it drained the Roman treasury of money needed to maintain the Roman army and hold the empire together. It reached a point where the barbarians became so numerous and powerful and the Roman army became so underfunded and weak that the barbarians effectively held Rome to ranson at will. The barbarians now demanded more...they demanded they be allowed for the first time to settle in Roman lands. However they didn't assimilate and eventually demanded kingdoms of their own carved out from Roman lands. The new barbarian immigrants/mercenaries became so numerous in the army that one day a senior barbarian general disbanded the Roman senate and took over. The Roman empire then ended in the West. Ironically the Roman army was 600 000 strong but the Romans had lost the will to resist the barbarians by then.

Sounds familiar? The message Rome gives us is that if a much more advanced and powerful society tolerates another much less advanced and powerful culture that won't assimilate (and is agressive, expansionist and intolerant), then that culture could eventually bleed the host dry of resources and destroy it.

I am not advocating cruelty agianst anyone like the Romans did to solve military problems but we should atleast be aware that the Roman tragedy could befall us if our tolerance (political correctness) leads us to tolerate in-tolerance at all costs.

Infinite appeasement kills civilisations!!!

Al Azm fails to note that the smashed egg on the rock can attract bugs whose feces and urine may ultimately accelerate the erosion of the rock.

Also, the stink of the rotting of the broken egg can prompt someone to kick the rock into the nearest river.

OBl - so true great post!
I came to the conclusion that christianity was a major factor in the downfall of the Roman Empire some time ago, and don't worry, we are in august company on this subject.

John Quincy Adams in fact nailed it when he refered to the Christian exaltation of the "good side of human Nature" and stated that Islam exhalts both the Dark and Good sides.
All our morals such as tolerance, respect, kindness and charity are wonderful when we live in a world not surrounded by Barbarians, or where there are none in our midst.
We Banish our dark side to the realms of Satan and are unable to understand it when it rears its ugly head and often respond with shock and surprise.
Because we bury it so deep, we are in effect unable to make use of it in our defence when we need to use it.
When our evil surfaces, we feel guilt and yearn to atone.
Does an Islamic beheader of innocents feel guilt at his butchery?
I doubt it. Why ?
Because his religion does not banish the dark side of human nature to Hades, but exonerates it and promotes it.
So we are, because of our morality, always fighting an uneven war. One in which we constantly feel guilt for our evil actions and the other sided feels pride for them.
This is the point at which our noble Christian morality breaks down.
The point at which we are threatened by an army that is not impeded by the guilt of their own evil actions.
So we have to conclude that if we are to survive and not simply hold hands and be put to the sword without a whimper of protest like so many of the early Roman christians- then we have to learn how to address,use and control, the "evil" side of our nature.
Of Course the more "civilised" a civilisation gets, the more difficult it is to do this.
Cosseted students or graduates of universities who aspire to the higher goals of the human soul and have never come face to face with such "barbarians" are the least likely
to come out of their denial. Yet they are the ones who tell us how we should think and lead our lives.
When we do go to war it is the farmer's sons , or the rough and ready men who fight so we can sleep at night.
Yes we are in complete denial of the evil within us so obssessed are we to promote the good side of our democratic civilisation, that every time a serial killer strikes or an abomination is commited we cannot accept that this too is part of our nature, so we euphemise and our doctors invent new medical terms to prevent such actions from being seen as belonging to Human nature.

"Yes, the Western world appears powerful, but such power is miniscule compared with that of Allah!"

When logic fails, there is always fanatacism, and that seems to be as plentiful as sand and oil in the Middle East. If one side is convinced that the playing field tilts towards them, despite all evidence otherwise, they'll play.

Please read the article all the way through.

It has alot of great points.

//www.insiderreport.net/clash_1-2_print.html

THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND
THE GREAT CALIPHATE
By
Larry Abraham

I urge all of my readers to make copies of this report and send them to your friends and relatives. The information is too critical to be overlooked in the madness of this election year.

Part I of this essay was written in January before the Democrat Party primaries settled anything and before the occupation of Iraq took a turn for the worse. However, it is now more obvious that what I wrote about the nature of the Third Great Jihad is all too true. The political picture has deteriorated in Europe and the U.S .to a great degree since then so Part II takes these developments into consideration. Again, I urge all of you to distribute this essay as far and wide as possible without any concern for copyright violation. Our fellow citizens need to know the true nature of what we all face. LHA

As we watch and listen to all the Democrat Party candidates running for the nomination of their party, it is tantamount to enduring the Chinese water torture. The blah, blah, blah goes on and nothing of value comes out except the pain of listening to the same nothingness over and over again. I won’t take the time or space to repeat what you have heard so many, mind numbing times over the past months but what you have not heard is crucial.

I must also fault President Bush and the administration spokesmen for not telling the American people what they really need to know about this “war”. If they don’t do that sometime between now and November it may cost them the election.

It Did Not Start on 9/11

The war we are now facing did not begin on September 11, 2001, nor will it end with the peaceful transition to civilian authorities in Iraq, whenever that may be. In fact, Iraq is but a footnote in the bigger context of this encounter, but an important one none the less.

This war is what the Jihadists themselves are calling the “ Third Great Jihad” and are doing so within the framework of a time line which reaches back to the very creation of Islam in the Seventh century and their attempts to recreate the dynamics which gave rise to the religion in the first two hundred years of its existence.

No religion in history grew as fast, in its infancy, than did Islam and the reasons for this growth are not hard to explain when you understand what the world was like at the time of Muhammad’s death in 632 AD. The Western Roman Empire was in ruins and the Eastern Empire was based in Constantinople and trying desperately to keep the power of its early grandeur while transitioning to Christianity as a de facto state religion. The costs to the average person were unbearable as he was being required to meet the constantly rising taxes levied from the state along with the tithes coerced by the Church. What Islam offered was the “carrot or the sword”.

If you became a convert, your taxes were immediately eliminated, as was your tithe. If you didn’t, you faced death. The choice was not hard for most to make, unless you were a very devoted martyr in the making. At the beginning, even the theology was not too hard for most to swallow, considering that both Jewry and Christianity were given their due by the Prophet. There is but one God-Allah, and Muhammad is His Prophet, as was Jesus, and the pre-Christian Jewish prophets of the Torah (old testament). Both were called “children of the book”, the book being the Koran, which replaced both the Old and New testaments for Christians and Jews.

With this practical approach to spreading the “word” Islam grew like wild fire, reaching out from the Saudi Arabian Peninsula in all directions. This early growth is what the Muslims call the “first” great Jihad and it met with little resistance until Charles Martel of France, the father of Charlemagne, stopped them in the battle of Tours in France, after they had firmly established the religion on the Iberian peninsula. This first onslaught against the West continued in various forms and at various times until Islam was finally driven out of Spain in 1492 at the battle of Granada.

The “second great jihad” came with the Ottoman Turks. This empire succeeded in bringing about the downfall of Constantinople as a Christian stronghold and an end to Roman hegemony in all of its forms. The Ottoman Empire was Islam’s most successful expansion of territory even though the religion itself had fractured into warring sects and bitter rivalries with each claiming the ultimate truths in “the ways of the Prophet”. By 1683 the Ottomans had suffered a series of defeats on both land and sea and the final and failed attempt to capture Vienna set the stage for the collapse of any further territorial ambitions and Islam shrunk into various sheikhdoms, emir dominated principalities, and roving tribes of nomads. However, by this time a growing anti-western sentiment, blaming its internal failures on anyone but themselves, was taking hold and setting the stage for a new revival know has Wahhabism which came into full bloom under the House of Saud on the Arabian peninsula shortly before the onset of WWI. It is this Wahhabi version of Islam which has infected the religion itself, now finding adherents in almost all branches and sects, especially the Shiites. What this sect calls for is the complete and total rejection of anything and everything which is not based in the original teachings of The Prophet and it finds its most glaring practice in the policies of the Afgani Taliban or the Shiite practices of the late Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. Its Ali Pasha (Field Marshall) is now known as Osama bin Laden, the leader of the “third Jihad”.

Jimmy Carter sets the stage

The strategy for this “holy war” did not begin with the planning of the destruction of the World Trade Center. It began with the plans for toppling the Shah of Iran back in the early 1970’s and culminated with his exile in 1979. With his plans and programs to “westernize” his country, along with his close ties to the U.S. and subdued acceptance of the State of Israel, the Shah was the soft target.

Thanks, in large part to the hypocritical and disastrous policies of the Jimmy Carter State Department the revolution was set into motion, the Shah was deposed, his arm forces scattered or murdered and stage one was complete. The Third Jihad now had a base of operations and the oil wealth to support its grand design or what they call the “Great Caliphate”.

The Great Caliphate

What this design calls for is the replacement of all secular leadership in any country with Muslim majorities. This would include, Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia, all the Emirates, Sudan, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and finally what they call the “occupied territory” Israel.

As a part of this strategy, forces of the jihad will infiltrate governments and the military as a prelude to taking control, once the secular leadership is ousted or assassinated. Such was the case in Lebanon leading to the Syrian occupation and what was attempted in Egypt with the murder of Anwar Sadat, along with the multiple attempts on the lives of Hussein in Jordan, Mubarak of Egypt and Musharraf in Pakistan. Pakistan is a particular prize because of its nuclear weapons.

The long-range strategy of the Third Jihad counts on three strategic goals. 1. The U.S. withdrawing from the region just as it did in Southeast Asia, following Vietnam. 2. Taking control of the oil wealth in the Muslim countries, which would be upwards to 75% of known reserves, and 3. Using nuclear weapons or other WMDs to annihilate Israel. A further outcome of successfully achieving these objectives would be to place the United Nations as the sole arbiter in East/West negotiations.
Evidence of the Bush Administration awareness of this plan is found in the facts that immediately following the 9/11 attack, their first move was to shore up Pakistan and Egypt, believing that these two would be the next targets for al Qaeda while Americans focused on the disaster in New York. The administration also knew that the most important objective was to send a loud and clear message that the U.S. was in the region to stay, not only to shore up our allies but to send a message to the Jihadists. The attack on Afghanistan was necessary to break-up a secure al Qaeda base of operations and put their leadership on the run or in prison.

Why Iraq?

The war on Iraq also met a very strategic necessity in that no one knew how much collaboration existed between Saddam Hussein and the master planners of the Third Jihad or his willingness to hand off WMDs to terrorist groups including the PLO in Israel. What was known, were serious indications of on-going collaboration, as Saddam funneled money to families of suicide bombers attacking the Israelis and others in Kuwait.

What the U.S. needed to establish was a significant base of operations smack dab in the middle of the Islamic world, in a location which effectively cut it in half. Iraq was the ideal target for this and a host of other strategic reasons.

Leadership of various anti-American groups both here and abroad understood the vital nature of the Bush initiative and thus launched their demonstrations, world-wide, to “Stop The War”. Failing this, they also laid plans to build a political campaign inside the country, with the War in Iraq as a plebiscite, using a little know politician as the thrust point; Howard Dean. This helps to explain how quickly the Radical Left moved into the Dean campaign with both people and money, creating what the clueless media called the “Dean Phenomenon”.

By building on the left-wing base in the Democrat party and the “Hate Bush” liberals, the campaign has already resulted in a consensus among the aspirants, minus Joe Lieberman, to withdraw the U.S. from Iraq and turn the operation over to the U.N. And, if past is prologue, i.e. Vietnam, once the U.S. leaves it will not go back under any circumstances, possibly even the destruction of Israel.

Should George W. Bush be defeated in November and a new administration come to power we could expect to see the dominoes start to fall in the secular Islamic countries and The Clash of Civilizations would then become a life changing event in all of our lives.

What surprised the Jihadists following the 9/11 attack was how American sentiment mobilized around the president and a profound sense of patriotism spread across the country They were not expecting this reaction, based on what had happened in the past, nor were they expecting the determined resolve of the President himself. I believe that this is one of the reasons we have not had any further attacks within our borders. They are content to wait, just as one of their tactical mentors, V.I. Lenin admonished…”two steps forward, one step back”.

A couple of additional events serve as valuable footnotes to the current circumstances we face: the destruction of the human assets factor of the CIA during the Carter presidency, presided over by the late Senator Frank Church and Carter’s CIA Director, Admiral Stansfield Turner. This fact has plagued our intelligence agencies right up to this very day with consequences which are now obvious. Jimmy Carter is the one man who must bear the bulk of the responsibility for setting the stage of the Third Jihad. Americans should find little comfort in how the Democrat contenders constantly seek the “advice and counsel” of this despicable little hypocrite who now prances around with his Nobel Prize, while attacking President Bush with almost as much venom as his fellow Nobel Laureate, Yassir Arafat.

Lastly, we should not expect to see any meaningful cooperation from Western Europe, especially the French.
Since failing to protect their own interests in Algeria by turning the country over to the first of the Arab terrorists, Amid Ben Bella, the country itself is now occupied by Islamic immigrants totally twenty percent of the population.

We are in the battle of our lives which will go on for many years possibly even generations. If we fail to understand what we are facing or falter in the challenge of “knowing our enemy” the results will be catastrophic.

PART II (May 1, 2004)

Since writing the above, we have witnessed some frightening evidence in support of our hypothesis both internally and in other parts of the world.

The al Qaeda bombing in Madrid has emboldened our enemy into believing it can use terror as an instrument for democratic regime change. Based on what happened there, they may be right.

Kerry and bin Laden on the same page

John Kerry and other leaders of his party constantly refer to the United States as “acting unilaterally.” They give no credit whatsoever to countries like Great Britain, Poland, Italy, Australia or even tiny Honduras for putting their limited armed forces in harm’s way to support the U.S. led coalition in Iraq. It is little wonder that some are considering doing what Spain has done—pulling out. The leaders in these countries have spent considerable political capital in this effort, and have little to show for it as it relates to fostering good will with the American public. Couple that fact with Osama bin Ladin’s latest offer of withholding attacks on those who “quit” the coalition and you have all the elements for a Democrat party fostered “self-fulfilling prophecy” where the U.S. will be totally alone in the pacification of Iraq. John Kerry and the Bush critics persist in the “lie” of the U.S. going it “alone” in Iraq but Osama bin Laden knows differently and will use the Kerry rhetoric to help isolate the U.S. The terrorists now see themselves as political “king-makers”. They may be right.

Another aspect of the “anti-Bush” political axis is how both his political enemies and the main stream media take ghoulish delight in “the body count,” just as they did in the later days of Vietnam. Oh sure, they pay incidental homage to the memory of the young Americans who gave their lives in the greatest threat this country has ever faced, but they do so with all the sincerity of Madonna making a vow of chastity. As the body bags grow in number, they believe, so grows their political prospects. They may be right.

If the Bush administration is further weakened in the months leading up to the November elections, we will witness a heightened al Qaeda offensive in all parts of the world, including our own country, and especially in Iraq and nations surrounding it ,i.e., Pakistan, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Events within the past few days in Jordan not only make this argument but also point to the possibility of “what happened to the WMDs.”
Iran and Syria are daily growing more overt and bold in their support of insurgents within Iraq, believing that Bush has been so hurt by internal politics that he is powerless to act against them in any meaningful way. They may be right.

The Leftwing initiative, Political Correctness and Our Will to Win

Within our own country we are witnessing and almost insane application of “political correctness.” As the barbarism of radical Islam grows more apparent in the streets of the Middle East from Gaza to Basra, we see a cultural suicide taking place within our own schools and communities.

Our children are being taught from the Koran, our professors are preaching intifadah in their class rooms, and Muslim “call to prayer” loud speakers are blaring out from city halls. The more precarious our very existence becomes, the more our liberal brethren embrace their enemies. It is a Stockholm Syndrome which can only lead to the recruitment of young Muslims who will be willing to duplicate in the West what their co-religionists are doing in the streets of Israel and the market places of Baghdad. The liberal P.C. crowd say nothing about the silence of the Muslim religious leadership as it relates to the carnage of innocents but couldn’t speak out fast enough against the inspiration supplied to tens of millions of Christians by Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ. They were put off by the movie’s “violence” and its alleged “fostering of anti-Semitism”. Movies must represent their “reality” as the real thing moves them not at all. Among liberal Jews in America, hatred of George W. Bush is only surpassed by their contempt for Ariel Sharon…Let them explain it, I am at a total loss to do so. Maybe they just miss seeing Bill Clinton smooching Yassir Arafat in the White House Rose Garden.

The “Reverend” Jesse Jackson is now calling the U.S. “guilty of crimes against humanity” as he sets out to mobilize the non-Islamic Left. None of the Democrat leadership says a word in opposition to Jackson’s treason or Hillary’s attacks on the President and U.S. policy in an Arabic newspaper, while in London. You can bet that al Jezeera didn’t miss a beat in their reporting of both events.

The campaign takes its toll

The campaign is seriously hurting Mr. Bush’s leadership role in the War on Terror. While ducking every new book critical of his initiative or trying to counter the partisan nitpicking of the 9/11 Commission, he has persisted in the misbegotten insistence of “installing democracy” in Iraq. Our purpose for being in that beleaguered country should be restricted to one purpose and one purpose only, to stop the expansion of The Third Jihad and provide a base for doing same in the neighboring areas. This can be done by sealing the borders, attacking anything that moves in violation of same and by making it clear to Syria and Iran that any participation on their part will be considered an “act of war”. Let the country be governed by the local tribes, Shiite in the south, Sunni in the central and Kurds in the north with a U.S. pro consul overseeing the military. Oil revenues could be spilt by population allocation. How about installing a Republic…it worked pretty well here with diverse populations.

The very idea that we should spend our sons and daughters blood or our tax dollars on trying to building a “democracy” in the region which has neither a history nor a desire for such, is sheer nonsense. The very essence of Islamic teaching speaks directly against this principle. Continuing on the current path can only result in fostering greater hatred for the “Great Satan”. Force is the only thing which is respected in that part of the world and this force need not be tied to “reform”. I suggest Mr. Rumsfled acquaint himself with a copy of Julius Caesar’s Gallic Wars and Sun Tsu’s Art of War. All the tactics and strategies necessary to subdue the Iraqi insurgents can be found in those two military gems.

Please not the UN

Bringing the U.N. to the party will only compound the problem without adding any accountability. The U.N. has been accused of many things over the years, but being a “democratic” institution has never been one of them. Just the latest scandal of the “Oil for Food” program should provide any thinking person with all the evidence they need to keep the U.N. at bay. But this doesn’t seem to bother the likes of the John Kerry’s of the world who prattle on as if the scam doesn’t even exist.

Just one example will make my case; the UN mandate in Israel, which has been in place since 1948. One more salient point needs to be made on this subject. There is no such thing as “The International Community.” There are only individual countries, each with its own agenda which is always self serving. The myth of a higher level of “moral authority” coming out of the UN as been one of the greater lies of the past half century, but it is a lie which persists in spite of a bloody record of hypocrisy, graft, genocide and “perpetual war for perpetual peace.” I have a suggestion for the 9/11 Commission:.Why don’t they look into what the UN was doing before the attack on the World Trade Center? If they do, they will find that exactly one week before, the UN was holding a Conference on Racism in Durbin, South Africa where the delegates voted overwhelmingly to condemn Israel, as “racist and terrorist.” The U.S., Canadian and Israeli delegates walked out in disgust. Nary a word was uttered about Saddam Hussein, al Qaeda, or the Taliban, to say nothing of what was happening in Rwanda while they crunched caviar on toast and washed it down with vintage Champaign. Genocide does not qualify as “racism” according to the UN “morality.” Neither we nor the world needs the UN to muck up what is already a very delicate situation. If given proper leadership every Middle Eastern country named above will throw in with the Coalition, for if they don’t they will be the next targets of the Third Great Jihad and the Great Caliphate. Pakistan is already showing the leadership which others will follow. What do you think moved Kadahaffi to cozy up to the U.S. and Great Britain? He fears the Jihadist more than he hates us.

Evil Does Exist

Our current crises, in meeting the threat of the Third Jihad, is one more example of how most Americans simply refuse to believe there is evil in this world and are willing to grant moral equivalence on any human action. Unless the crime is personalized such as in the case of Lacy Peterson, we lose interest quickly and become bored or at least not involved.

To try and understand what we are facing, look into the eyes of your son or grandson and try to fathom a mind which would take pride in strapping a bomb to his body and sending him out to kill himself and countless innocent people. Or in the case of your daughter or grand daughter, try to imagine a religion which commands you to mutilate her vagina to destroy her sex drive or demands you to stone her to death if she has sexual relations with a man other than of your choosing.

If you can comprehend these facts both intellectually and emotionally, then you will start to understand what we are facing in the months and years ahead, both at home and abroad.

The radicals of Islam will stop at nothing to destroy us and all we stand for. They see this war as their “entry to paradise” and a release from the miserable existence they have built for themselves within the confines of an evil and perverse religion. The Jihadist are NOT like us, nor most of their fellow Muslims. But, like terrorists everywhere they have silenced any criticisms from fellow Muslims through threat and intimidation and have, with the help of the ‘useful idiots” in the West, “created the appearance of popular support”.

If we are incapable of understanding these realities and acting accordingly, within the life time of everyone who reads these words, we will see our cherished way of like cease to exist and chaos become our lot. The Clash of Civilizations is now reaching out and touching all of us. May God grant us the wisdom and the courage to meet the challenge.

I respectfully dedicate the above to the memory of Pat Tillman and his 872 comrades who by their courage and willing sacrifice set an example for every American. May we be worthy of their “greatest love…”

George is right. We're really at a great disadvantage. They don't play by the same rules. They target western civilians, even Christian Arabs to make a point. For some reason, the world unreasonably expects us to take it because we're more powerful. It's like allowing a child to assault his parents without being disciplined. Likewise, Israel is being criticized everyday for its "brutality" against the Palestinians by the whole world minus the Unites States. Nowadays, we're regarded as bullies. I think it's rediculous, yet sadly some American politicians subscribe to such a mentality.

This is an interesting letter posted on MYWAR
from a British commander to a US soldier/blogger

Tuesday, September 28, 2004

In The Service Of The Queen
Here is an e-mail I recieved from my B.C.:
CBFTW,

Yours is a voice that many have heard. We have not simply heard what you have said; we have, and continue to, listen to what you are saying. Far too often we simply carry on an inner dialogue when someone else speaks to rehearse what we will say when they finish. This war on terrorism will be with us for some time, so I offer an open letter to the generation I will pass this burden on to.
I believe that we are making progress in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Despite the ravings of pundits and uninformed ambulance chasers, this fight doesn't' hinge on oil or payback. It isn't about religion or race. And it damn sure is not about any innate desire to rule the world. These people will succeed or fail on their own merits. The task is daunting. You can release a person from bondage. You can remove a tyrant from power. You can create the conditions for liberty. But, you cannot simply grant or proclaim freedom. Freedom without honest action is a whisper in a storm just as change without vision and purpose is the illusion of progress. For ages these people were literally beaten to the point of submission by oppression, censure, murder, torture, and rape - regardless of age or gender. I have asked myself why they let it happen. The only answer I can fathom is that evil flourished because good people refused to pay the price required to oppose it. Sure, it's easy now to pontificate and blame the poor and down trodden for their collective indifference, but forgive my sarcasm - I think we owe them more than a couple of days to realize that their hopes and dreams have a chance to grow and one day flourish. No amount of rhetoric and no pressing agenda will change the fact that time is required to help heal these people and that ancient grievances require redress. Make no mistake: I'm no crusader -I do what I do because I am a professional soldier. For me it's been simple: protect the innocent, punish the deserving, accomplish my mission and bring my men home, period. As Sting said "Poets, Priests, and Politicians have words to thank for their positions." For a soldier it is black and white: deeds not words. If you need words to better illustrate, the Latin mottos of two Infantry Regiments I have served in will suffice: "Sua Sponte" and "NeDesit Virtus": Of their own accord and Let Valor not fail. Or in true cowboy fashion: Saddle your own horse, cull your own herd, and bury yourown dead.
The threat we face is like nothing we've seen before. I've been in the streets with this enemy, fought him face to face, and have been lucky enough to kill him and come out alive. I have seen what he is capable of doing and the zeal with which he will do it. This threat won't fit neatly into "the box" or be governed by any paradigm. It is a cancer within our collective body as the human race. We are all threatened by this evil, and evil it is. This enemy has twisted and distorted things both sacred and profane to guide as well as justify its means and its stated end. Nothing is beyond the realm of the possible when it comes to the depths to which it will sink, the horror it is willing to commit, or the suffering it is willing to inflict. This enemy has no concept of mercy nor does it recognize combatants. Innocence is not a factor. You need only look at the headlines of the day to confirm that children, teachers, and doctors are murdered everyday by these villains. What makes them evil? I submit that it is not the act that earns them the epithet of evil - it is the intent to commit and the pride they draw from the act. These animals revel in the post act announcements that they are responsible. They feel vindicated by the proclamations that they perpetrated these horrors in the name of God and that having committed these acts some how elevates them. Make no mistake, this enemy is formidable but by no means invincible. To defeat this cancer requires the one thing that civilized people all over the world possess in absolute abundance - The will. The will to be free can only be surrendered by the person that has it - it cannot be murdered, raped, tortured, or stolen. It's not about being a martyr or a saint, it's about being a decent human being. And, the unvarnished truth is that the killing and the horror will continue until those with the will to endure prevail.
I am a simple soldier, proud to serve, but my days in the service of the Queen are drawing to a close. Soon all of the cold war junkies will also be gone and you my friends and your band of X generation anti-heroes will have the reigns. Like it or not, you are now the fulcrum upon which the balance beam rests. I will tell you that the outlook is damn good. I am absolutely humbled every day to have the rare privilege to march among the young men and women who chose to give soldiering a try. None finer have ever served under the colors.
Beware the onslaught of false prophets who preach the one size fits all solution. Look beneath the facade of their self proclaimed patriotism, peelback the shield of their dogma, and you are likely to find a charlatan malcontent who was passed over for some accolade he feels he richly deservedor a flim-flam artist who knows a chance to make a buck when he sees it. They don't have the will to endure. The will to be free comes at a heavy price. For some it is more than they can bear. Divorce, estrangement, financial burdens, health problems, depression, and even suicide are very real costs. Sacrifice is rarely recognized for what it truly is because the price of recognition is guilt. Parades, giving medals, issuing promotions,and rousing speeches are simply the thin veneer that masks the desperate need of those who are kept free by our endeavors for absolution from this guilt. Adam Duritz wrote in the song Mrs. Potter's Lullaby that "the price of a memory is the memory of the sorrow it brings."
I submit that it is our love of freedom, the embrace of our wives or sweethearts, the love of our children or family, and the earned respect of our brothers in arms that cast the walls that make the will to endure a fortress that can never be taken. I will be proud to stand the watch until my time is at an end, but soon you will mount the ramparts and stand the watch alone. In closing, I leave you with the words of Marcus Aurelius "Think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life. Now, take what's left and live it properly. What doesn't transmit light creates its own darkness."
Respectfully,
"Knute Lombatton

At the moment we are relying on our superior technology made possible by our scientists to delay facing up to the inevitable.
A technology we have inherited and given willy nilly to the islamists who want our destruction. Soon as they pilfer or buy from our corrupt politicians and arms dealers, that advantage will no longer be there. By that time it may be too late to wake up.
And of course there is the wealth of disinformation and rewrinting of history to brainwash our young students into believing that islam, the religion of peace, must be welcomed under the guise of multiculturism.
Why oh why did we have to wait for 911 to realise that we have been under attack since the the 6th century ?
Who falsified our schoolroom history books and erased the history of islam from them to raise generations of ignorants?

Liberalism and PC as well as the islamic virus they allow into the west, are the enemy within. It is a cancerous disease.
The lack of insight from liberals, and gullible joe public stems from, a compulsory guilt (from the left) of attrocities commited by whites/christians throughout history, a utopian fantasy (that wouldn't work),fear and denial of the truth, media bias and lies, Political correctness for numerous reasons, politicians who will not expose the truth or actually don't or won't exept it (eg- Bush and Blair still calling Islam a religion of peace, in the same sentence they preach of the sickening attrocities commited by muslim terrorists,and the many unbelievable thing they get away with on our on shores),and of course taqiyya/kitman,da'wa and all the other islamic tools of deception aimed at swaying the views of infidels.

We are the answer to this, we are the ones who must turn the tide, and do what all the technology and advanced weaponary in the world cannot.

Mr George said “because of our morality, we are always fighting an uneven war. One in which we constantly feel guilt for our evil actions and the other sided feels pride for them. This is the point at which our noble Christian morality breaks down”.

This is an astonishing statement to make. God is all powerful and nothing can defeat that power…it is boundless, not a leaf in the wind has the authority to move without his permission. Even after converting all the sea water to ink and using it to write about the exaltations of Allah (swt) is enough….nothing I repeat nothing is enough…Allah (swt) is all powerful and all forgiving. This is why while we have nothing ….paradoxically we have everything….learn (and convert) if you want real meaning to your lives.

….Look at you giving up so easily..…you will surely lose the war (whatever it is) even if you win every battle. Oh ye of so little faith…you have surely defeated yourself ….not Islam.

The huge difference between Communist and Islamic totalitarianisms is that the refugees from the Communist countries did not take Communism along when coming to the West. They assimilated and became better guardians of the Western values than born Westerners themselves. The immigrants from Islamic societies take Islam along, stick to it and spread it from inside to destroy the West.

Why is the ideology of Islam more appealing to those who live under it? Is it that the Communists failed too long to fulfill their promise of a coming better world, so that even those who believed in the ideology in the first place, got tired of waiting? Islam's great future is in the other world, so they have no burden of proof in this world about their ideology's rightness...?

Nassem

You would be wrong to think the west can be so easily beaten. We do eventually get it right...it is just that the west tends to do everything at the very last moment before the potential calamity. That is the real reason westerners get frustrated about Islamism. I don't know anyone here that is just going to lie down and let Islamism destroy the civilised world. Most human beings love humanity too much to let that happen.

For me a god that doesn’t love humanity above him/herself isn't a deity worth anything at all. Such a god is ethically worthless and inhumane. Being a good and ethical human being should be enough for an infinitely kind and loving god. Atheists and religious people who are fundamentally good people are equally deserving of kindness and blessings from god...IF god exists. It is the goodness that matters. I feel absolutely no reason therefore to convert to anything. Why should anyone? Islamism is aggressive and barbaric so I don't think it should be craved for by anyone. I guess some people must make their own choices in life but I will never choose tyranny.

Naseem,
Take your occultist gibberish to one of the jihadist sites where you and your insane ilk can rant and rave, and plot to destroy the world amongst yourselves.

You worship nothing, because allah is nothing, your religion is nothing and it's followers have nothing.
If your "god" is so powerful, how come every islamic country, apart from the ones that have loosened it's cancerous grip such as Turkey, is more or less a third world pit of hell, and their inhabitants, a bunch of towel-headed apes, with zero brain-power, who run around blowing themselves up based on something a drugged up child-rapist concocted while intoxicated centuries ago.

You, and filth like you serve only the devil, for only one so evil as he could deceive the scum and fools of the earth that he is the true god.

We will wipe islam from the face of the planet before we will submit to it - and we HAVE the will and the means to do it.

And God will allow it. Know why? Because "allah" is not God, he is a lowly imaginary demon pretending to be great and powerful. You need only look to his rhetoric and his methods. "allah" may make a few gains here and there, but islam will not prevail; as cubed says, "Reality always wins in the end."

This is a classic clash of Good versus Evil.

Mr. CGW, Mr. Rikki

So you want to wipe Islam off the face of the earth….a classic rant and rave …paradoxically what you keep accusing me of.

On what basis do you (rant) say this, let me guess:

Mr. Bush….nah! He loves Islam, he is a defender of the faith…he said so, immediately after 9/11, a time when he could have shouted against it.

Mr. Kerry….nah! He is pre-occupied with OBL, frozen in his headlights, inexperienced but probably good for Islam and the West in the long run.

Israel….probably the best chance , but they are simply too pre-occupied by their wall, which ultimately the UN will force down….not today , not tomorrow but eventually.
Think I’m crazy…what were the chances of breaking down the Berlin wall when 1st built….none.

There has to another way than war, because I can see that in the long haul, i.e. 1s, 10s, 100s 1000s of years, all “allies” will abandon you, you will stand alone bent , broken and bankrupt andI don’t to see that. Islam of course will still be there…..it is ordained by Allah (swt), as history has shown superior weapons are no match to ideology particularly when you are alone.

Mr. Kerry is our best hope, because he will see things beyond war, like Spain, a new strategy is required…an accommodation is required if you will, because we live on this earth too.

The weakness of our Judeo Christian morality now translated into secular "human rights laws and morality") is simply that we feel intense guilt when we slaughter Muslims.
however when Muslims slaughter us they feel pride and jihadic success.
Because we naively believe that humans are born "good" and only resort to evil when victimised or oppressed, we strive to excuse the bloody slaughters of islamists in every which way,eventually blaming ourselves for their outrages!
The reasom we believe this is due to our own "indoctrination" by religion and education.
Ever seen a school playground and noticed the violence?
this is what happens before our mums, religion and education intervene!
This eventually results in a "civilised world in which we "know" the difference between right and wrong .
So why do muslims rejoice at 911, bali , madrid , beslan ? and why do we find this rejoicing so horrific ?
1) they are not restricted by their faith to only doing good and therefore are proud of their acts of genocide and feel no guilt.
2) we are unable to comprehend and admit that both good and evil are preached by the Koran. thus discharching its believers from the guilt that judeo christians would feel if they were to commit these actions.

Quite simply: our morality ties our hands behind our backs

Naseem:

Israel….probably the best chance , but they are simply too pre-occupied by their wall, which ultimately the UN will force down….not today , not tomorrow but eventually.

The UN has never forced anyone to do anything in its entire sorry existence, and there's no reason to believe that it ever will.

Think I’m crazy…what were the chances of breaking down the Berlin wall when 1st built….none.

The fall of the Berlin Wall, and the subsequent collapse of Communism, had nothing whatsoever to do with any actions taken by the UN.

Mr. Kerry is our best hope, because he will see things beyond war, like Spain, a new strategy is required…an accommodation is required if you will, because we live on this earth too.

If by "our" you refer to the lunatics bent on the creation of a global caliphate, then you're probably right. Kerry is your best hope of advancing that goal.

There can be no "accomadation" with the Islamists, however. Islamism is truly a cancer on humanity, and it must be treated as such.

Wiping Islam from the face of the Earth is too grand a goal to be practical, though. Expelling the Muslim colonists who have taken up residence in the west would be a good start, followed by a total quarantine of the Islamic world.

….paradoxically we have everything….learn (and convert) if you want real meaning to your lives.

….Look at you giving up so easily..…you will surely lose the war (whatever it is) even if you win every battle. Oh ye of so little faith…you have surely defeated yourself ….not Islam.

Posted by: Naseem at October 19, 2004 07:47 AM

So let me get this streight naseem the woman is telling us we have to convert to what bowing to a rock?

that we are weak because we are big but they are stronger and this war is really about all of Islam against us?

well I remember the woman nasseem telling us that their pop was in the # 1.2 billion and if I look at the pop of the USA it is less than 300,million so who are the giants?

I remember a story about a boy named David and how he used his brain to over come the giant?

So my numbers have them the giants and us the Davids!!

WE ARE WINNING DO NOT LOSE HEART!!

This war is big and my fear is that they don't stay in the open as they are now this makes the fight easy for the American People to see and keep in their paryers Remember President Bush said sometimes we will see the battles and some we will never Know but the war will be won and it will be long!!

We fought the commis for what 50 years and now look it is once again who is with us but Russia and Israel!

WE WILL WIN REMEMBER THIS!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory [FREEDOM]to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

PS
Nathan sounds like you have been listen-ing to Dan Rather to much!!

Naseem,
Islam will be the death of itself eventually (with a little help from us).

The world, that islam has made an enemy of, is waking up.

The most important thing the entire non-Islamic world can do -- for it must never be forgotten that this is not a "war of civilizations" in Huntington's formulation, with a Sinic, and a Hindu, and an Orthodox, and two or three other "civilizations" all jockeying for position with the "Christian West." It is, rather, simply the classic Jihad of Islam against all others, all who either are adherents of Christianity, or Judaism, or Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Sikhism, or of no religion at all -- adhereents of anything, that is, that is not Islam.

The Jihad never fell into desuetude. It was merely overlooked, and when Muslims lacked the ability to conduct it successfully, it was easy to misread the situation. Arab oil money, acquired through an accident of geology, not through industry or entrepreneurial flair, gave the Muslims the wherewithal to pay for madrasas and mosques and armaments, to bribe diplomats and businessmen and journalists -- in short, to conduct Jihad in a much more systematic and sustained way. That is the only change; it began, roughly, with the 1973 oil price rise, and has continued ever since. And since Muslims define all of their woes -- political, economic, and social -- in terms which allow them always to identify the enemy as "infidel" -- thus the corrupt rulers of Saudi Arabia sre not merely "corrupt" as we would call them in the West, but of necessity must, because they are corrupt, be called insufficiently Muslim, or even "Infidels." That is the essential distinction.

The war is simply the Jihad, supported to one degree or another by all Believing Muslims, and objected to, and more and more actively defended against (one hopes) by all Infidels, and not merely the Americans.

The most effective agent of undermining the Infidel lands from within is migration by Muslims to those lands. All such migration must come to a halt, and it should be reversed first by wholesale expulsion of all Muslim non-citizens, and then by expulsion of those whom, it would not be difficult to prove, owe their allegiance not to their fellow Infidel citizens and the Infidel nation-state, but only to their fellow Muslims and to Islam.

The most effective course of action would be to have as little to do with Muslim states and peoples as possible. Work toward diminishing their oil revenues and not toward a foolish goal of "energy independence" (as long as Saudi Arabia can make hundreds of billions of dollars, it is irrelevant if it sells much or no oil to the United States). Work toward cutting off their ability to rely on the West for medical care, or higher education -- or make them pay an enormous premium for such access, a premium pegged so high that it will effectively deny such access. Limit all sales of military equipment to rifles, jeeps, and the occasional tank -- no planes, no missiles, no advanced weapons systems whatsoever, for there is a good chance that these weapons, like the Stinger missiles entrusted to the Afghani mujahideen to be used, ostensibly, only against Soviet forces, will be used eventually against one or another group of Infidels.

Cease to worry about what Muslims think, wherever they live. They are a classic fifth column, for what else can they be, given what Islam teaches them to believe? It is foolish they could be anything else but -- unless of course an individual is a Muslim in name only, and effectively rejects all of its main tenets, and identifies fully and freely (and not in a spirit of taqiyya) with his Infidel nation-state and neighbors.

before we can even consider defence, we must recognise the attack.
And here all kinds of economic subterfuges and political hidden barriers have been raised to prevent us from doing so.
perhaps the greatest subterfuge is the mistruth that Islam is JUST a religion.
Another is that islam like Christianity endorse the 'GOOD" side if the Human spirit, whereas it endorses BOTH the good and EVIL.
THis is of course a huge advantage during warfare as it exonorates the perpetrators from responsobility or guilt for genocidal actions on the enemy (infidels).
Does a man who saws of the head of a live victim feel guilt or remorse for his actions ?
Yes, if he is not an Islamic jihadist.
How do we come to terms with such lack of guilt?
We have in the end to resort to excuses or to lay the blame on ourselves for "vile deeds" done in the past thus painting the perpetrator as a victim. This eases the pain of realisation as to the nature of humans.
OUr western morality imposes this line of reasoning since we cannot accept that such behaviour is part of the Human spirit.
We have to accept that it is sometimes imperative to commit evil to fight it.
it is a tough lesson to learn for anyone who has been brought up in a western liberal democracy far from the lessons of Islamic jihad.