Canadian Muslim leader espouses jihad
Posted by Robert on October 22, 2004 7:25 AM
And why is a terror attack from Canada "inevitable"? Because Canada is host to people like this. From  CP, with thanks to Louise:
VANCOUVER (CP) - The leader of a Vancouver mosque attended regularly by a local man reported killed in Chechnya has preached the virtues of jihad and called Jews "the brothers of monkeys and swine."
In a lecture posted on the mosque's website, Sheik Younus Kathrada tells an audience all real Muslims want to be martyred. "It is inconceivable that a true believer will not desire martyrdom," Kathrada says.
"When we hear of our fellow Muslims in Palestine and what they're going through to try and defend that great land for us, the Muslims, that individual should wish that he was there."
In a recording of another lecture obtained by The Canadian Press, Kathrada lashes out at Israelis for killing Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin late last March.
"We know what happened over the last week and how the brothers of the monkeys and the swine assassinated and murdered one of the heroes of Islam, the Salah al-Din of this day and age, Ahmed Yassin."
Kathrada tells his audience the Qur'an and its accompanying writings view Jews as treacherous people with whom Muslims will engage in an apocalyptic battle.
"The prophet . . . said the final hour will not be established until such time as the Muslims will battle and will fight against the Jews," Kathrada says.
"Then what will happen? Listen to the good news after that. The prophet . . . says that the stone and the tree will say 'oh Muslim, oh slave of Allah, that verily behind me is a Jew. Then come and kill him.' "
Kathrada, who works out of the Dar al-Madinah Islamic Society mosque in east Vancouver, said Thursday he could not remember when he gave these talks.
"If it's on there and my name is on it then I must have. I don't recall the date," he said.
Kathrada refused to explain the meaning behind the tirade against Jews.
"I guess if you heard the lecture then it should be clear to you," he said.
But he defended his characterization of Jews as treacherous monkeys and pigs.
"I guess no rougher than what is used against us," Kathrada said. "It's in our Qur'an."
At least he admits it. On a radio show a couple of years ago with the ADC's Hussein Ibish, I mentioned its presence in the Qur'an, and Ibish breezily replied: "That's not in the Qur'an." It was a clever gambit, really, since most listeners would not have been familiar with the Qur'an, and would not have suspected the brazenness of the deception. But I was ready with chapter and verse, whereupon Ibish started talking about Nazis.
Other members of the Muslim community say Kathrada, a Sunni Muslim, was active in the Vancouver area's interfaith movement.
"I'm told that he's quite open," said Aziz Khaki of the Committee for Racial Justice, who met him at the opening of a new mosque in suburban Port Coquitlam last year.
"He did speak there and he spoke in very good terms to say we should build bridges with the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism and Christianity and we should be open to dialogue and something like that."
Well, sure. He was no doubt tailoring his remarks to his audience. There's nothing Westerners want to hear more from a Muslim spokesmen than the twaddle about the unity of Abrahamic faiths. Unfortunately, as this story demonstrates, it has no real substance.
In his lecture on jihad, Kathrada says the term refers to physical fighting and includes the idea of offensive jihad.
"When the Muslims have a leader, when the Muslims have the strength and the ability to take on an enemy, then absolutely they call the other nations towards Islam," he says.
"Should they reject the message then they will declare war upon them. That is what we know as the offensive jihad.
"There is a good reason for that. It is in order to establish security on this Earth. It is so that the word of Allah will be the superior word."
Aziz said Kathrada is on the fringe when he espouses offensive jihad.
"He has not read the history," he said. "The whole concept of Islam spread by sword is absolutely a myth."
Common sleight of hand here. Even Kathrada didn't say that offensive jihad was in order to force people to accept Islam. Sayyid Qutb, Syed Abul Ala Maududi, and other prominent radical theorists hotly deny that offensive jihad is meant to force Islam on people: it is, they say, to establish the hegemony of Islamic law, and to make dhimmis of non-Muslims.
Kathrada's view of Jewish treachery is apparently rooted in a seventh-century doublecross of Mohammed by Jewish residents of Medina.
But Aziz said it has no relevance to historic relations between Muslims and Jews, who lived peacefully in Moorish-controlled Spain and in Ottoman Turkey.
Aziz has studied the taqiyya playbook carefully. The historical record shows that Jews did indeed live peacefully in Al-Andalus and Ottoman Turkey -- as second-class dhimmis. Most decidedly not as equal citizens with Muslims.
"God may forgive him (Kathrada)," he said.
"Where Muslims ruled for 700 years, Jews and Muslims worked together."
The Vancouver area's Muslim community numbers more than 60,000 and Aziz said such militant views don't go deep.
"I don't even waste time on such characters," he said....
And that's the problem. Because as I have shown in my books and here many times, Kathrada's arguments below can all easily be defended from the Qur'an and Islamic tradition. Aziz most likely is well aware of this. If he is not guilty of conscious deception, his unwillingness to deign to provide adequate Islamic refutations of Kathrada's arguments means that he is leaving the field open for Kathrada to convince more and more young Muslims to turn radical. Of course, one principal reason why he does not supply such refutations from Islamic theology and law is because they do not exist: Kathrada is faithfully representing Islamic teachings on these matters.
Excerpts from recorded lectures give by Sheik Younus Kathrada, leader of the Dar al-Madinah Islamic Society of Vancouver:
On Jews after Israel assassinated Hamas leader Sheik Ahmed Yassin last March
"We know what happened over the last week and how the brothers of the monkeys and the swine assassinated and murdered one of the heroes of Islam, the Salah al-Din of this day and age, Ahmed Yassin.
"Once again they've shown their treachery; once again they've shown that they are cowards and that they cannot be trusted."
On enmity between Jews and Muslims:
"Allah informs us in the Qur'an that you will never find people having such animosity towards the believers or such strong animosity towards the believers like the Jews and the mushrikeen (polytheists).
"All of these words we seem to have forgotten and the reason we like to remind ourselves of them is because today we hear from amongst those who claim to be Muslims, we hear them telling us that we must have love and we must live in peace with these Jews.
"And the reality is, like I said, there is never going to be peace with them."
On the battle between Muslims and Jews:
"The prophet . . . said the final hour will not be established until such time as the Muslims will battle and will fight against the Jews.
"Then what will happen? Listen to the good news after that. The prophet . . . says that the stone and the tree will say 'oh Muslim, oh slave of Allah, that verily behind me is a Jew. Then come and kill him.' . . . It is not meant to be understood metaphorically but rather literally.
"Unfortunately we hear too many people saying we must build bridges with them. No. They understand one language. It is the language of the sword and it is the only language they understand."
On offensive jihad:
"When the Muslims have a leader, when the Muslims have the strength and the ability to take on an enemy, then absolutely they call the other nations towards Islam. Should they reject the message then they will declare war upon them.
"That is what we know as the offensive jihad. There is a good reason for that. It is in order to establish security on this earth. It is so that the word of Allah will be the superior word."
On kuffar or unbelievers:
"I have no problem with calling the Christians and the Jews and those who are not Muslims kuffar. They are kuffar and if they die in that state they will abide in the hellfire forever. I don't care what anyone else says."
Comparing jihad to U.S. policies:
"When we hear the kuffar today and they start attacking the Muslims . . . you think immediately of their double standard.
"When the United States, for example, sees a land that poses a threat to them, what do they do? Don't they attack that land? And what is their justification? That they want to establish peace on Earth . . .
"I ask you by Allah, will peace and security ever be established if Islam is not the religion that is practised? It will never be established."
"I mentioned to you a while ago that it should be all of our intentions that one day we be martyred. If it is not I say revise yourself. Look deep into your heart because there is some hypocrisy in it.
"It is inconceivable that a true believer will not desire martyrdom."
Invocation ending the jihad lecture:
"That he (Allah) place us amongst those who will, God willing, be martyred."
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