Walid Phares has the goods. From World Magazine, with thanks to JWW:
Walid Phares thumbed a sheaf of documents, all in Arabic and nearly all bearing the spherical slogan of Iraq's intelligence service, or Mukhabarat. The Middle East scholar, a Lebanese-American Christian who speaks four languages and is a recognized expert on Islamic militants and terrorism, has interrupted a sick day (prior engagement with a root canal) in order to evaluate 42 just-leaked intelligence documents confiscated by U.S. forces in Iraq.Moistening his finger and translating out loud, Mr. Phares read from the pages in his third-floor office in downtown Washington, where he is taking a year off from teaching at Florida Atlantic University to serve as senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. He didn't notice as his narrating voice rose with incredulity. Finishing, he rapped the papers with his fingers and concluded: "This is a watershed. This is big."
Mr. Phares is one of at least four eminent Middle East experts to agree that the documents—published for the first time last week—demonstrate that Saddam Hussein collaborated with and supported Islamic terrorist groups, including the current terror nemesis in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
The papers, obtained by Cybercast News Service (CNS) and released Oct. 4, "establish irreversible evidence that there were strategic relations between the Baathist regime and Islamist groups that became al-Qaeda," Mr. Phares said after reviewing them at WORLD's request on Oct. 6. In addition, the documents link al-Zarqawi-associated groups throughout the Middle East, including al-Qaeda, on Saddam's payroll and acting under his direct authority.
Evidence and the word of experts, however, is having little effect on the John Kerry campaign, which has staked its bid for the White House on what it calls a flawed rationale for war in Iraq. Only hours after the CNS website absorbed so many hits over the revelations that its server crashed, vice-presidential candidate John Edwards blasted the president's war strategy in a televised debate with Vice President Dick Cheney. "There is no connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th—period," Mr. Edwards said. "In fact, any connection with al-Qaeda is tenuous at best."
Sen. John Kerry, too, insists on the stump that the president's "two main rationales—weapons of mass destruction and the al-Qaeda/Sept. 11 connection—have been proved false."
But the documents suggest otherwise. They include an 11-page memo, dated Jan. 25, 1993, listing "parties related to our system . . . expert in executing the required missions." The memo cites Palestinian, Sudanese, and Asian terror groups, and shows a developing relationship with groups affiliated with al-Qaeda, including Mr. al-Zarqawi, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar—figures who are now on the U.S. most-wanted list for ongoing assaults in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Jan. 25, 1993, memo also describes an intelligence service meeting with a splinter group led by Mohammed Omar Abdel-Rahman. Mr. Abdel-Rahman is a son of the blind Egyptian, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, accused of inspiring the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and arrested in 1994 for targeting New York landmarks. Pakistani officials caught the younger Abdel-Rahman last year, and say he helped lead authorities to Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, one of the 9/11 attack planners.
A separate memo, dated March 18, 1993, asks intelligence officers to provide "details of Arab martyrs who got trained" in conjunction with post–Gulf War "committees of martyrs act." In reply another office supplied 92 names with nationalities, all "trained inside the ‘martyr act camp' that belonged to our directorate." In all, 40 are linked to Palestinian groups, 21 are Sudanese, and others range from Eritrea, Tunisia, Morocco, Lebanon, and Egypt. Most of the trainees completed a government-sponsored course on Nov. 24, 1990, and were sent on missions throughout the Arabian Peninsula.
Accompanying the memos are separate notations signed by Saddam Hussein's secretary, suggesting the president himself had reviewed and endorsed each action.
"Saddam was personally overseeing the details" of training terrorists and assigning their missions, Mr. Phares said. "From 1993 on, Saddam Hussein connected with Sunni fundamentalists in the Arab world. He was in touch with the founding members of al-Qaeda."
I really hate to be the devil's advocate, but is Bush-hatred the only reason mainstream news is ignoring such a fantastic scoop?
What is the general reputation of CNS news?
What is the Bush administration doing about it?
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Bush Sanctions China - Espionage From Beijing
Charles R. Smith
Thursday, Sept. 30, 2004
The Bush administration has announced a new series of sanctions against China. The sanctions lodged against Chinese Army owned companies were imposed because of illegal arms technology transfers to Iran.
The list of Chinese Army companies now under sanction includes several familiar names from the Clinton years such as China Great Wall Industry, China North Industries (Norinco) and the China New Era Group. Both China Great Wall and China North Industries received advanced U.S. space technology through presidential waivers signed by President Clinton.
AGAIN WHAT WERE THE 2 CHINESE DOING TESTING A MISSILE NEXT TO THE BORDER WHERE THE TERRORIST TRYING TO BUY ONE OR WHAT? AND LOOK AT THE TWIST AND TURNS!!!
LET’S LOOK AT PACKI’S AND THE CHINESE WRITING ON NUKE STUFF?? THE SCREW TURNS?
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
One Reporter's Opinion - Illegal Alien Problem Mainstream at Last!
By George Putnam
Saturday, Oct. 2, 2004
It is this reporter's opinion the masquerade is over... and to a great extent, we can thank two brilliant journalists: Donald Barlett and James Steele and their brilliant exposure in Time Magazine of the illegal alien invasion. Barlett and Steele pulled no punches in their cover story, "Who Left the Door Open?" - a penetrating, powerful message of a nation-destroying dilemma not known since the Roman Empire fell before the marauding vandals.
Tragically, neither candidate for President will face the issue. Amazingly, it took a Mexican official to lay it on the line. The newly appointed Arturo Gonzalez Cruz, a Tijuana businessman, admits his government is working toward an open border with no checkpoints.
REMEMBER THE VERONA PAPERS?? WHY IS IT THAT WE DON’T TRUST OUR OWN BUT THE MONSTERS WHO WANT TO KILL US HAVE WEIGHT?? I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE DEMOCRATS THE PROOF HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE LIKE THE HOLE IN NYC BUT THE KEEP TELLING US WE CAN’T TRUST OURSELVES BUT MUST TRUST MONSTERS AND OUR ENEMYS??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat Amen
PS
Mr. Phares is one of at least four eminent Middle East experts to agree that the documents—published for the first time last week—demonstrate that Saddam Hussein collaborated with and supported Islamic terrorist groups, including the current terror nemesis in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
The papers, obtained by Cybercast News Service (CNS) and released Oct. 4, "establish irreversible evidence that there were strategic relations between the Baathist regime and Islamist groups that became al-Qaeda," Mr. Phares said after reviewing them at WORLD's request on Oct. 6. In addition, the documents link al-Zarqawi-associated groups throughout the Middle East, including al-Qaeda, on Saddam's payroll and acting under his direct authority.
IS THIS WHY THE STATE DEPARTMENT DID NOT WANT THE SADDAM TIRAL UNTILL AFTER OUR ELECTION??
SHAME SHAME SHAME !!!
Evidence and the word of experts, however, is having little effect on the John Kerry campaign, which has staked its bid for the White House on what it calls a flawed rationale for war in Iraq. Only hours after the CNS website absorbed so many hits over the revelations that its server crashed, vice-presidential candidate John Edwards blasted the president's war strategy in a televised debate with Vice President Dick Cheney. "There is no connection between Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th—period," Mr. Edwards said. "In fact, any connection with al-Qaeda is tenuous at best."
THERE ARE MANY WOLFS AT THE DOOR AFTER YOUR CHILDREN!!
Posted by: Rublev at October 14, 2004 05:20 PM
WHAT A FOOL YOU ARE THE PRIMISTER OF IRAQ CAME TO THE USA AND TOLD YOU THIS BUT YOU DIN'T HEAR BECAUSE YOU WERE LISTENING TO DAN RATHER AND SANDY BERGER[STUFFS PANTS WITH PAPERS] THERE IS A HOLE IN NYC DID YOU ONLY HAVE DAN RATHERS WORRD??
OF COURS KERRY SAID THAT THE IRAQI WAS STUPID AND THIS IS WHAT DAN RATHER SAID GUESS YOU HEARD THAT??
AND THEN THERE ARE THE FAKE DOC.S FROM DAN RATHER AND ALL THE LIBS SAYING NO FOUL WELL WE CAN SMELL THAT PIG SHIT ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
PS
DID DAN TELL YOU HOW PROUD THE AFGHANS ARE ABOUT VOTING BUT THE UN WONT COUNT THE VOTES UNTILL AFTER OUR ELECTION SO BUSH DOESN'T LOOK GOOD??
Rublev:
What is the general reputation of CNS news?
About on a par with Newsmax. It's affiliated with the Media Research Center.
Rublev asks:
"I really hate to be the devil's advocate, but is Bush-hatred the only reason mainstream news is ignoring such a fantastic scoop?'
For the mainstream media to admit this now would be viewed as a certain betrayed of the Kerry and Edwards campaign. Yes, they hate Bush this much and want Kerry in office even more and at any cost.
What did Kerry really thnk about Saddam Hussein?
Kerry's words
Mega's post:
"Israel is not my problem. I sympathize with their plight, but I think the US has enough to deal with all by itself."
Based on your attitude towards Israel I can see why you are voting for Kerry.
Before 9/11, I thought the same way. I even blamed much of the terrorism in Israel on the non-stop construction of Jewish settlements. My first reaction following 9/11 was anger against Israel and anger against our government for not being "even-handed" in the Olso "peace process."
Then I read the Koran.
That turned upside-down the PC paradigm of "all religions being good/bad in their own way." It exposed the lie I had been believing, and more research I did with books and websites made me understand exactly what the people of Israel are up against.
If you love civilization, human decency, freedom, and life, Israel is your problem.
Those who understand the global context of jihad also understand that Israel has been on the front line of this jihad for more than 50 years.
America's alliance with the Jewish state has saved America from the relentless Arabization faced by Europe.
If Israel goes, the Islamofascists will see this as a much bigger victory than the withdrawl of the Soviets from Afghanistan.
They will not be satiated. They will be emboldened.
I sudder to imagine their next move.
If Israel goes, so goes the world...
God bless America, the leader of the free world,
and God bless Israel, the keeper of the flame.
Posted by: Rublev at October 13, 2004 11:26 PM
Those are some real pretty words and now I see your funny above so disregaurd my rant!!
Better take that I don't take it back very often!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Eyes of the World to their Threat Amen
I still stand by my opinion that the U.N. and Saddam created the conditions that forced a disarming or face invasion.
The endless "Resolutions" that allowed Saddam to murder about 5000 people per month had to come to a end,the U.N. insisted they couldn't confirm the near 7000 missing Missiles or warheads had been dismantled or destroyed.
In Canada you can go to jail for having an illegal satellite dish and the Police can enter your home and take the equipment,they DON'T allow you to agree to dosmantle the dish and never do it again. Why should having bombs in Iraq be OK to the U.N. but jailing Canadians for unpaid collection of satellite signals isn't a human-rights issue.
Hell,even if you do have DTH payTV services we still can't get Foxnews but may be getting the Arabic AL-Jazeera news channel.
Forget the terrorism link,it's the U.N. link that scares me more,they react after a crisis and then state something should be done.
Documents, shmocuments! Who needs documents to prove links? They're all linked, via the Koran. All of them. They hate the West, want to destroy us, they're loyal to their own (fellow Muslims), will aid and abet each other whenever possible, and lie about it all the way. I don't need to see any documents.
Who is it that finances Terrorism? The Saudis.
Where are these terrorists harbored and succorred?
Saudi Arabia.
Who is the major source of financing for Islamism, especially of the Wahhabi version in the US and the World? Saudi Arabia.
Which prominent Arabs have proven links to terrorists and funding? The Saudi's, especially Prince Turki, Prince Nayef and Prince Bandar.
And who is business partners with the Saudis, even calls Bandar Bandar Bush (just google images bandar for some nice chummy pictures).
Also check out the Carlyle Group and the Bush Saudi connections and ownership.
Now tell me about why you think Bush is a defense against the Islamists... not.
I am not voting because I refuse to be complicit in my own destruction and enslavement.
But truthfully, with facts on the table, Bush is the worst of them all, not only butt buddies with the Saudis, but inimical to our economic health and civil liberties.
I really think he is malevolent and actually hates America, as much as the Islamics.
A vote for Bush is a vote for the Saudis, the Wahhabi's, the terrorists
Recommended Reading: House of Bush, House of Saud, Paul Unger.
Secrets and Lies, by Dilip Hiro
Sleeping with the Devil by Robert Baer
The Battle for Saudi Arabia by As'ad Abukhalil (a true Saudi hater, and Islamophobe Arab).
Giaour, I couldn't agree with you more about Bush. I just don't understand why so many people here are pro-Bush. Don't know much about Kerry, but at least he's not in league with the Saudi's.
Leaked Iraqi Intell documents....
Gasp!! gasp!! gasp!!... [trying to catch my breath]....Well pilgrim...[in my best john wayne drawl] ya couda knocked me over with a feather when I read that. Ya don't mean ta tell me that that nice ol' fella was really mixed up with them bunch of bad hombres? Why all them fellas orr yonder on the left been a yappin all along bout that saddam fella not knowin any of them thar fellas. Now im a blevin them thar lefty fellas been a liein bout a bunch of other things. Im a thinkin that come election day us fellas over here on the right outta go out an kick them lefty fellas butts.
Does this revelation come as a surprise to any one with so much as an ounce of common sense? The EMPTY SUIT will claim that this information is cooked up by the Repubs in order to give Bush a boost in the polls. Lets hope this will get a lot of traction.
Re: voltaire to Giaour...
Voltaire although you didn't address your comment to me I'm going to toss my two cents in anyway,and I think many others would agree with me. First, G.W. bush is an honest man of firm convictions and he understands the danger we here in the states face, and he's determined to do something about it. Second, Mr. Kerry is a man without honesty or convictions. He will and does say anything, tell any lie or do anything if it serves his purpose to acheive his goal.That is enough to make him disliked by conservatives. But I personally feel disdain for the man because I think he's a traitor to his country and should have been tried for treason for aiding and abetting an enemy in time of war.
Posted by: Giaour
I am not voting
Then shut up....
What kind of relationship did slick willy have with the house of Saudi ??
No Islam Know Peace
Posted by: Giaour
I am not voting
Then shut up....
What kind of relationship did slick willy have with the house of Saudi ??
No Islam Know Peace
Don't worry folks this ones going to the Sun, it'll be on the front pages tommorow....
Candidate Kerry takes a narrow view indeed, believing that capturing or terminating “Sheikh” Osama bin-Laden will shut down the “War on Terror”. This (if the “Cold War”’d been WWIII) is World War IV: the Islamo-fascist/Jihadi enemy isn’t made up of the leader and inner circle of el-Qaeda ALONE, but of millions of ditto-minded, Moslem fanatics, covertly linked in a loose confederacy, structured in a web of insulated, maxi-autonomous cells, across the dar el-Islam.
On the heels of the US-led Coalition’s Iraq intervention in 2003, bin-Laden delivered a “fatwa” “authorizing” the intimate collaboration of Islamist militants with “socialists”, i.e. “secularists”: fascist Arab nationalists and fascist pan-Arab and “Arab Socialist” totalitarians & their gunmen.
He’d spotted the advantages of such smooth co-operation, in practice in “Palestine”’s “el-Aqsa Intefada”. The “Palestinians”’ terror-strikes are supervised by the “National & Islamic Fighters’ Front”, which merges the assorted gangs of the PLO with the “holy warriors” of Hamas, Jihad Islami, el-Qaeda surrogates and with Hezbollah, all murdering together. Such combined actions depend upon them working tightly on a MULTI-LEVEL BASIS, daily, in the fields of personnel, intelligence, training, logistics, planning, co-ordination, munitions, money, communications, etc)
Up to a point, in theory, the “Sheikh”’s call for Islamic unanimity in the “Holy War” embraces even the heretical Shi’a, as well as his own Sunnites. Despite the bloody exceptions to Sunni-Shi’ite collusion persisting in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iraq, it’s reliably reported that Iran and el-Qaeda have long connived in secret, continuing to do so today. Nevertheless, in effect, every faction of the various Islamo-fascist/Jihadi groups ARE ALL FINGERS OF THE ONE HAND.
Isn’t coffin-faced Mr Kerry aware that el-Qaeda’s MORE THAN a band of killers? Nowadays, it’s the FOUNTAINHEAD of a planetary “Movement”. It wages World War against the dar el-harb, striving to adhere ALL the strands of Islamo-fascism/Jihadism, to enlist every Moslem. It bids to vanquish the “infidels” - whom it blames for the nasty plethora of serious problems with which the Arab & Moslem sphere’s stubbornly afflicted itself, for hundreds of years. They’re totally convinced that the “qufrs”’ doom’ll usher in their eternal Paradise, under Sharia rule.
The Jihadis burn to realize their pan-continental Grand Qalifa, to expunge all of the “infidels”’ civilizations forever, slaying or converting & enslaving their peoples en masse, rolling the clock back - as soon as possible - to the mid-7th Century, seeing to it that human life’s reduced to a primal, brutal, bitter struggle for wretched subsistence in a howling desert. It’s of the highest probability that the great bulk of these nihilistic zealots - delighted to sacrifice their generations to the Moloch of this gathering battle - won’t cease till they’re ON TOP… or else destroyed.
In the end, if the “War on Terror”’s left to drag on (possibly for decades), the USA, the West & its associates, ground down by years of agonizing attrition, can then choose either, cravenly, to surrender to the bloody barbarians or to fully OBLIGE them, in their desires for a violent demise.
Luckily - at least up to now - the West’s managed to keep a monopoly of atomic weapons, versus this particular, mortal enemy. These devices could constitute the optimal means to grant the Islamo-fascists/Jihadis their Death-wish. At the right time (but sooner could be better than later), the TRUE “Shock & Awe” of applying the sanitizing white-heat of mini-nukes to the fanatics’ nuclear & strategic sites (not combating them in their reeking casbahs) is the most direct route to Western Victory, which is THE SINE-QUA-NON for hopes of any positive future.
However, John Kerry thinks that the “War on Terror”’s merely a big international police-hunt for Osama & his crew - definitely not WWIV, in all its enormity & horrors. He’d return to Clinton’s approach - which did NOTHING to counter Islamo-fascist/Jihadi terrorism; accordingly, it could well become the most immense conflagration, featuring routine use of bio-chem & radiological WMDs, before he wakes up - if he ever does. Grievously deficient, he views Terrorism as “a Nuisance”, to be DIMINISHED, unquestionably - but somehow not requiring UTTER DEFEAT.
Alas, he can’t bring himself to face the facts: tragically - but with the coldest objectivity here - there exists NO, nice, neat, “win-win” potential in this dire confrontation; there’s merely the “zero-sum” game, win or lose, or the “negative-sum”, lose-lose. Available to the US, though - unfortunately, temporarily - is THE KEY to virtually curtailing this conflict totally, roundly short-circuiting it; but the answer’s Ultra-Radical. It’s probably more than Kerry - if he’s ever President - could handle (and so, sadly, the opportunity, to prevail all at once, will be LOST)....
If these docs prove to be legit, then everything changes, everything! I'm skeptical to be honest because it sounds too good to be true. Why isn't this being reported in the mainstream media? Why isn't the Bush Campaign trumpeting this?
Have there been any updates on efforts to validate these docs?
On a seperate note, Catherine, and forgive me if you've already explained this before, but can you tell me what the "The American Tribe, Spider Killer, Squirrel Hunter" thing is all about? I've been wondering about this for months.
Voltaire and Giaour;
Get real! This administration has done more to displease the Saudi government than any other by far. It has rocked their boat by invading Iraq, and brought the terrorism problem they were exporting to their doorstep.
Furthermore, this nonesense about the Bush letting the Bin Laden's relatives out of the country following 9/11 had nothing to do with Bush; It was authorized by Richard Clark (not a friend of Bush). You can read this in the Hill News (a non-partisan journal about what happens in capital hill). I will post the link later but you can always look it up. BTW: Clarke said he would do it again because they followed standard procedure. Remember, Osama was DISOWNED by his family.
Here is the link, and the corresponding headline;
http://www.hillnews.com/news/052604/Clarke.aspx
"Clarke claims responsibility
Ex-counterterrorism czar approved post-9-11 flights for bin Laden family"
By Alexander Bolton
I would also like to point out that George W. Bush's support for Israel's right to defend itself goes WAY BEYOND what the Muslim-friendly Clinton administration accomplished (with the disastrous Oslo "Peace" Accords). Whereas the Clinton adminstration brought that snake Arafat back from exile in Tunisia, the Bush administration has decided to isolation him. This is, and MANY OTHER EXAMPLES are hardly characteristic of a polititian who is inordinately "beholden" to the Saudis.
Instead of nit-picking about Bush family business ties with Saudis, look at the record of this administration.
I agree that our government (including the Bush adminstration) should be tougher with Saudi Arabia, but the state department's obsequious relationship with the Saudi government has been going on since Roosevelt.
Can you show me ONE SHRED of HARD EVIDENCE that this administration is any worse in this regard?
Giaour:
Craig Unger's book is so riddled with errors and innuendo that his prospective British publishers decided it wasn't worth the litigation it was bound to attract. One of the more notorious misreps -- the one Michael Moore has revelled in -- is the one about the bin Laden family flying out of the country when all air travel was banned. They didn't leave US airspace until the ban was lifted and they were cleared by another Moore hero, Richard Clarke.
Just because it's in a book published in the US, where the libel laws are laughable, it doesn't mean it's true.
Gregoryscott
"Spider Killer" -- I suspect, but could be wrong, that Catherine is alluding to the one who was hiding in one until he was dragged out into the light of day back last December (Saddam's hidey-hole was described as a spider hole).
and an addenda to Giaour (and Voltaire):
Plenty has also been written, largely in response to Michael Moore's F9/11 about the Saudi-Carlylse-Bush connection. George Sorlos, one of the Democratic Party's biggest donors,and a big mover-and-shaker in the "defeat Bush" camp had/has an investment in Carlysle that vastly, vastly outstrips any investment the Bushes and their friends may have had in Carlysle total.
Bush has attracted support, not only from traditional Republican types, but from people on the centre/left (e.g. Christopher Hitchens, and Paul Berman who wrote Terrorism and Liberalism, a book that's actually worth reading, unlike Craig Unger's piece of crap ) because in invading Iraq and putting pressure on the Saudis to clean up their act, he recognized the very real threat of Islamofascism and has intervened on behalf of democracy.
It took a long time to get the momentum going against other fascist totalitarian movements and this time, because it's about a whole civilization and not just a few allied nations, it's been even more difficult to pursue.
Thought this would interest you and the members.
Iraq: Theater of Horrors
Kriknak Says that Bush is an honest man.
LMFAO, the man is a sociopath, a psychopath.
Yeh, he is honest, the reason is because he
actually believes his own lies.
The Lies of Bush are well documented, he can't open his mouth without lying. He lies about everything, from WMD's, to Saddams links to al Qaeda, to caring about Americans.
But he believes his own lies, so that makes him honest.
My take is that he actually hates America. He is first and foremost loyal to his family, Mom and Dad, and Americans rejected his Dad's bid for a second term.
He is also deranged because like the Muslim terrorist, he believes that he is on a mission from god.
He so much as said so a number of times, and even in the final debate.
Giaour,
All you do is make unsupported assertions about Bush. You still haven't answered my question:
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS FAVORING THE SAUDIS MORE SO THAN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS?
Why do Saudi-supported organizations like CAIR and the MPAC overwlemingly endorse Kerry?
Why does the government of Iran endorse Kerry?
Do you really believe that there is NO MORAL DIFFERENCE between a Christian leader who believes he is doing God's work, and a Muslim leader who makes the same assertions?
Are you ready to provide evidence for this ludicrous assertion?
1) Krkrjak,
You said, ". . .he (Bush) understands the danger we here in the states face. . ."
I think he's come quite a distance since 9/11, but he still has a long way to go. Certainly, he's way ahead of Kerry.
I'm getting worried, folks. Have any of you a) seen the polls, and 2) heard some of Hannity's "Man in the Street" interviews? We are in such deep doo-doo in this country. If Kerry wins, we are ALL in deep doo-doo.
2) Ala-sux,
Way back in the beginning of the satellite dish era, there was a grouchy old guy up in Maine who had a dish and was using it without paying the company. He was sued, but won his case when he commented, "If you don't want me using your microwaves, don't put 'em in my back yard!"
Of course, that was a long time ago, but I thought you might enjoy the story.
3) For a while there, my state was a "swing-state," but now it appears that Kerry is a decided front runner. I am seriously depressed. However, if it looks as if Bush will have no chance of winning, I will get some minor pleasure out of writing in Robert's name, and then fantasizing about Hugh as head of State, and finding some really great place for Walid Phares. CIA, maybe? DC, you still game for Supreme Court? Or maybe Defense?
Sigh.
Whew!!!
Giaour, WOW, you are sure one misguided puppy. But I'll tell you something that you aren't going to be LYFHO about. Your EMPTY SUIT you think is a hero is going to flush right down the toilet where the traitor s.o.b belongs. When the Swift Boat documentry hits the air your EMPTY SUIT is going to collapse like a house of cards in a hurricane.He's already starting to unravel like a cheap shirt with that crack he made about Cheney's daughter. And that little memo that's being talked about all over the country, you know, the one put out by your 'HONEST" party. The one that the DEMOCRATIC party has sent out telling their goon squads to make up lies about the Repubs trying to keep democrates from registering. Yes Giaour, I can feel your pain. Maybe next time around you lefties might want to consider someone with even just a little bit of integrity.
Did everyone read about Saddam getting a hyernia opperation,seems he and his Lawyer tried to lift the file that had the names of all the people he murdered.
Back to Bush and Kerry,I had to laugh at the fact that the election is about 2 "Filthy Rich White Guys" that want to help the MiddleClass.
Kerry talked about the Schools for the "Haves" and "Have-not's" while he and Bush attended "Yale" and didn't complain then about Social imbalance on wealth. Kerry loved to point out the Iraq invasion as wrong and unfounded,but this is while his very own testimony about Vietnam showed that he witnessed War-Crimes and atrocities and then kept quiet until it became usefull to further his cause( sure hope my Sister doesn't depend on him to rescue her during an attack,he'll wait for a trial and then come forward as a witness).
Don't be fooled on Kerry's health care package,people in Canada pay about 5000.00 per year through income tax to pay for the "Free-Healthcare" system that's slowly de-listing some coverage while 30 percent of costs Nation wide are from Private Coverage.
I'm not keen on either one,but Kerry fails to mention that his accountants keep him in the 12 percent Tax Bracket and his plan to tax the "Rich"
won't affect him very much.I heard a Kerry supporter on a Canadian TV show defend Kerry's stand on the Gulf War,seems Kerry did vote against the war but was also in favour of the coalition method of defending Kuwait.
As for the claim that Bush allowed Arabs and Muslim to leave America on 9/13/01,did FRNHT/911
try to point out that all Arabs and Muslims should have been detained or put in Camps until they prove their innocent.
They weren't "ALLOWED" to leave,the Constitution protected their Right to travel and be assumed "Innocent until proven guilty" or perceived as "Not-Guilty" by association through a relative.
I guess Moore would be OK with the idea that if some Banks were robbed by a 50 year-old Obese bearded slob with a ballcap,that Airlines would refuse to allow him to leave the Country and call the Police so he can prove he didn't rob those Banks.
Don't worry though,I saw the movie as a Mock-u-mentary and judging by the cheering and laughing in the cinema,it was no suprise when the lights came on and the vast majority were either the Angry-Student type wanting free education,or the 50 and over males that still wear blue jeans and a beard while blaming others for their lot in life even though they were the ones to do little on self-improvement to get better jobs.
Michael Moore now joins the "Rich White Guy"
club and will still make movies showing how he hates them because of the uneven spread of wealth
in America. Thank God for the 500,000 dead soldiers America left on the European Battlefields so one day a 50 year-old man could
be free to make a movie about how bad the Country is that inturn allowed him to become a Millionaire like the people he abhors.
Michael Moore = food blister
posted by: Giaour
The Lies of Bush are well documented, he can't open his mouth without lying. He lies about everything, from WMD's, to Saddams links to al Qaeda
This my hurt a little Giaour, so grab an aspirin and a seat.
If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton
Address to Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon staff
February 17, 1998
"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina)
During an interview on CNN's "Late Edition"
February 24, 2002
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002
"We have evidence of meetings between Iraqi officials and leaders of al Qaeda, and testimony that Iraqi agents helped train al Qaeda operatives to use chemical and biological weapons. We also know that al Qaeda leaders have been, and are now, harbored in Iraq.
Senator Joseph Lieberman (Democrat, Connecticut)
In a Wall Street Journal editorial Lieberman authored titled:
"Why Democrats Should Support the President on Iraq"
October 7, 2002
See all you Democrats are pandering flip floppers!! I will leave you alone now to lick your wounds..
No Islam, Know Peace
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Thank you Bar, that was terrific.