Thailand: violent protest against the detention of six Muslim men

'Religion of Peace' strikes again - adding to the numbers blown apart, mutilated and killed by Muslims. Just watch them attain 20% of the population then it is all out Jihad to terrrorize or wipe out any who refuse to accept Islam.

I swear to god, every non-muslim country in the world ( or countries with a violent muslim minority) should start playing these religious zombies at their own game.
At one point in time this shit would not have been tolerated, these babaric apes would have been rounded up and torched, I pray for those times to soon return.

Good account of the fracas with many photos from the Bangkok Post. Use the login user=inging password=inging .

Ordinarily the Western press goes out of its way to ignore the examples world-wide of the Jihad, conducted both across borders, and within countries with Muslim populations. Not a single major newspaper carries, for example, the running reports on the numbers of Christians killed, and the numbers of churches destroyed, for example, in the Moluccas or elsewhere in Indonesia. But occasionally, when things get really out of hand, they pay some attention -- and especially if the religious element can be downplayed. Darfur has been given, it seems, much more attention than the 20-year genocidal campaign against Christians and animists in the southern Sudan, because in Darfur one can emphasize "ethnic" rather than religiously-inspired hatred. This, of course, shows a misunderstanding of how the Arabs regard Islam, for as was pointed out here by Robert Spencer, the Darfur campaign is certainly a Jihad. Not against non-Muslims, but against those who are regarded as second-class because non-Arab, Muslims.

As Anwar Shaikh, as Ibn Warraq, as V. S. Naipaul have all pointed out, Islam has always been a vehicle for Arab imperialism. The Qur'an was given to the Arabs, the "best of people," and in their language. Islamization was, wherever possible, followed by arabization, with the imposition of the Arabic language, the taking of Arab names, and the effacing of pre-Islamic memories to the extent possible. Some fought back, or resisted (the Berbers in North Africa--but how many of those who think they are "Arabs" in Algeria, and helped prevent those still aware of their Berberness from speaking Tamazight, are really Berbers themselves?), the Kurds (the massacre of the Kurds did not cause a syllable of protest anywhere in the Arab world); the swaggering arrogance with which "the Arabs" who came to conduct Jihad, and to support Bin Laden, in Afghanistan treated the locals is still remembered by Afghanis; in Persia, it was only the superiority of Persian culture, and such artifacts as Firdowsi's Shahnameh, that prevented Iran, too, from becoming culturally arabized -- and thank god, for Persian culture, for Omar Khayyam and Firdowsi and Indo-Persian miniatures, that it did not.

So there I was, thinking all these silly thoughts about the unstated conspiracy of the American media to prevent us, the poor benighted public, from finding out about the role of Islam in unrest and violence everywhere. Imagine then, how delighted I was to find on page A8, the very first page of international news ("The World") of The Boston Globe (owned and directed by The New York Times, which would never hide things from me, would it?), a large photograph of the very demonstration of Muslims reported in the item above.

Delight gave way to dismay, however, when I read the caption under the photograph. Here it is:

"Thailand Violence--Thai soldiers apprehended hundres after demonstrators clashed with police, leaving six protesters dead, outside the Tak Bai police station in Narathiwat Province yesterday. Nearly 1,500 protesters demanded the release of six village defense volunteeers, who were arrested and accused of giving their government-issued shotguns to militants last week."

I looked. I re-looked. I could not find the word "Muslim." Nor the word "Islam." Thus I could not make sense, nor could anyone else reading that caption, what the whole thing was about. Who were these "militants"? "Militants" about what? And where, pray tell, would "Narathiwat Province" be located -- could it be in the south? Could it have anything to do with the attacks on Buddhist monks and Buddhist villagers? Anything, maybe, to do with Islam?

Youth wants to know. Please, Boston Globe, don't confirm my worst fears.

For those of you who want to protest, Christine Chinlund is the ombudsman. The Globe seems to think she, or perhaps we, have little about which to ombud. Her knowledge of her own paper's history leaves something to be desired. In a little piece the other day explaining to readers who at The Globe decides whom the paper will endorse, she referred to the opinions that once appeared under the name "Uncle Dudley" as the gentle expression of a "collective." Nonsense. Uncle Dudley was the pen-name of Lucien Price, the most intelligent and cultivated writer The Globe ever had, and one they could not possibly have writing for them today. As Lucien Price, he wrote "The Dialogues of Alfred North Whitehead" (a book that recorded his Cambridge conversations with Whitehead when the latter arrived at Harvard in 1924).

It looks like things are going to get alot worse - 78 detainees from the protest suffocated to death while being transported to prison:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3954587.stm

indeed, hugh, the globe's characterization of the event makes it seem like a 60's protest of college radicals -- very convenient for a leftwing audience succumbing to dhimmitude without even the threat of immediate violence to hasten such decision. gives new meaning to the phrase: pen is mightier than sword

additionally, with the increased death toll, the dead protestors-to-arrested-individuals ratio is greater than 10. how will the globe, ny times, wash post, chicago trib, & la times characterize the event now? will they paint the thai government as brutal and authoritarian? thereby showing yet more dhimmi support for the jihad. it seems that left-leaning thinkers find taqiyyah quite accommodating given their penchant for revisionism

I shudder to think what they might have done had this not been the holy month of Ramadan. Oh, I see this was all done after dark. I guess that puts a whole different complexion on this incident.

No doubt the story tomorrow will have the word "Muslim" carefully underlined.

I wonder how long before similar incidents are common in the West. Belgium or France will probably be first.

No one is safe from Muslim fanaticism except equally fanatic regimes. Mao's China and Stalin's Russia come to mind, where Muslims learnt their manners.

Here's more detailed account Thailands' Restive South from BBC

The Thai government continues to insist that most of the attacks in the south of the country can be attributed to local criminal gangs.

But it seems increasingly evident that organised Islamic separatist groups are playing at least a part in the violence.

There are a number of Muslim separatist groups known to operate in southern Thailand - including Pulo (the Pattani United Liberation Organisation), BRN (the Barisan Revolusi Nasional) and GMIP (Gerakan Mujahadeen Islam Pattani).

In the past, these groups have been linked to larger Islamic organisations such as Jemaah Islamiah - blamed for terrorist attacks across South East Asia - and the Free Aceh Movement (GAM) in the troubled Indonesian province of Aceh.

No group has categorically claimed responsibility for recent attacks, and it remains difficult to be certain who - if anyone - is ultimately behind the upsurge in violence.

But one thing is certain. If police and security personnel continue to act with such heavy-handed methods, the animosity between them and the Muslim inhabitants of southern Thailand is only likely to increase in the coming months and years.

Apparently the Thais,like most of the world are afraid to "offend" their Muslims, maybe afraid of more violence.

Supposition supported by this from The Turkish Press

The relative poverty of the region compared to prosperous central Thailand fuelled a deadly Muslim insurgency which flared in the 1970s in a major challenge to the government.

A campaign to channel large amounts of development funds into the area helped turn the tide, and the election of Thailand's first Muslim politicians led to its effective demise in the early 1990s.

But armed separatism resurfaced in January with a brazen raid on an army base in which masked gunmen killed four soldiers and made off with 400 weapons.

The violence rose to a peak in April when 108 militants and five security forces were killed during a day-long uprising.

Hugh why wait I heard last night and today?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1228546.htm
Last Update: Wednesday, October 27, 2004. 5:06am (AEST)
Thailand says 78 Muslims died in army custody
Almost 80 Muslims died in military custody in southern Thailand, suffocated while being transported in trucks to an army barracks after a violent demonstration, officials said.
Only six people were previously believed to have been killed when troops and police opened fire to quell a riot outside a police station on Monday in the restive, Muslim-majority region.
The huge leap in the toll, and the manner of the deaths, are bound to add to tensions. One local Muslim scholar accused authorities of gassing the victims and called it a massacre.
Justice ministry official Manit Sutaporn said 78 people died of suffocation, making it the bloodiest day in the Buddhist kingdom since April 28, when troops and police shot dead 106 machete-wielding militants, also in the south.
"We found no wounds on their bodies," Mr Manit told a news conference in Pattani, a provincial capital 1,100 kilometres south of Bangkok, of the latest deaths.
He said the victims were among hundreds of Muslim men arrested after a 1,500-strong rally was dispersed outside a police station in Narathiwat province.
The deaths appear to have occurred while the detainees, who were stripped semi-naked after their arrest, were being taken by truck to barracks in Pattani, a journey that took five hours, Major-General Sinchai Nutsatit told the news conference.
"We have never seen this sort of torture in Thai history before. It is just like gassing them," said Ahmad Somboon Bualuang, an Islamic scholar from the Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani province.
"It is a deliberate massacre. They rounded protesters up and crammed them into closed trucks. They died from lack of air."

more to the story but unimportant cause it is the libs crying??

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Giaour: Thailand has reasons why it trying to decouple Islam and the separatist violence in its far south other than dhimmitude. It also wants to overcome a long history of discrimination and reassure those Thai Muslims who are loyal to the state that they are not seen as "the enemy". Further, much of Thailand's Muslim minority deserves such treatment.

Throughout the Mae Nam Chao Phraya valley are scattered small Muslim communities descended mostly from a Malay and Cham diaspora (leavened with Middle Eastern and South Asian immigration in times past) that have generally lived peaceably among a Buddhist majority. In the Thai portion of the Golden Triangle is another small Muslim minority, mostly of Yunnanese Chinese origin, that has also lived peaceably; and has moved from the status of impoverished hill farmers and small peddlers to professional positions in the past two generations, when Thailand's economy boomed. A Muslim diplomat also served as Thailand's foreign minister back in the 1990's; and while many Thai Muslims remain poor, others have served the country well in a number of capacities--even though Thailand is officially a Theravada Buddhist state.

Ahmad Bualuang, the Islamic Scholar mentioned in Cathrine's post above states that "we have never seen this sort of torture in Thai history before".

Well, Mr Bualuang, being an Islamic Scholar you would then be well aware that we have seen such torture and far worse in Islamic history before. In fact, we are still seeing such horrific acts being committed in Darfur, Iraq, Algeria and elsewhere by the followers of Islam even now. Have you ever condemned these attrocities to the press as well?

I think not.

I think not.

Posted by: Amicus at October 27, 2004 08:18 AM

GOT THAT RIGHT AND THE REST OF THE STORY OF THIS PEACEFUL FAITH [BS]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1228546.htm
Last Update: Wednesday, October 27, 2004. 5:06am (AEST)
Thailand says 78 Muslims died in army custody
Almost 80 Muslims died in military custody in southern Thailand, suffocated while being transported in trucks to an army barracks after a violent demonstration, officials said.
Only six people were previously believed to have been killed when troops and police opened fire to quell a riot outside a police station on Monday in the restive, Muslim-majority region.
The huge leap in the toll, and the manner of the deaths, are bound to add to tensions. One local Muslim scholar accused authorities of gassing the victims and called it a massacre.
Justice ministry official Manit Sutaporn said 78 people died of suffocation, making it the bloodiest day in the Buddhist kingdom since April 28, when troops and police shot dead 106 machete-wielding militants, also in the south.
"We found no wounds on their bodies," Mr Manit told a news conference in Pattani, a provincial capital 1,100 kilometres south of Bangkok, of the latest deaths.
He said the victims were among hundreds of Muslim men arrested after a 1,500-strong rally was dispersed outside a police station in Narathiwat province.
The deaths appear to have occurred while the detainees, who were stripped semi-naked after their arrest, were being taken by truck to barracks in Pattani, a journey that took five hours, Major-General Sinchai Nutsatit told the news conference.
"We have never seen this sort of torture in Thai history before. It is just like gassing them," said Ahmad Somboon Bualuang, an Islamic scholar from the Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani province.
"It is a deliberate massacre. They rounded protesters up and crammed them into closed trucks. They died from lack of air."
Troops and police fired live rounds, as well as water cannon and teargas, to end a six-hour stand-off with the crowd, which was demanding the release of six villagers accused of handing over government-issue shotguns to Islamic militants.
Shots were also fired from the crowd, officials said, adding that some of the protesters were under the influence of drugs or were frail because of fasting during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Six protesters died at the scene, and 20 people were injured.
"This is typical," Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said when asked about reports of scores dead. "It's about bodies made weak from fasting. Nobody hurt them."
Human rights concerns
Human rights groups said the deaths in military custody raised alarming questions in the self-styed "Land of Smiles", where campaigners say basic civil rights are under threat from an administration increasingly known for intolerance.
One of Thailand's 11 National Human Rights Commissioners appeared less concerned.
"The government did not over-react. It has done the right thing," Pradit Charoenthaitawee told Reuters.
"These people are rebels, separatists with some help from foreigners. This part of the country has belonged to Thailand since our grandparents. We can't allow separation."
One reporter said he saw troops round up the protesters after 15 minutes of gunfire, forcing men to strip to the waist and lie face down with their hands behind their backs.
The soldiers led about 20 women and children in the crowd into the police station, and roped the men outside together. The reporter said some soldiers picked out suspected ringleaders and beat them with rifles and batons.
Soon after, the commander of the troops arrived and reporters were told to leave. They left before the protesters were herded onto trucks.
Security officials justified the use of force, saying they feared the police compound would be attacked.
Police also said they recovered seven automatic rifles, a pistol, four hand grenades and some machetes either dropped by demonstrators or thrown into a nearby river.
Security outposts have been common targets in the 10-month unrest that looks increasingly like a revived Muslim separatist movement in the deep south.
Thailand's three southernmost provinces are home to the majority of the country's Muslims, who make up 10 percent of the mainly Buddhist nation's 63 million people.
At least 440 people, including Buddhists and Muslims, have been killed in the unrest, which started in January when guerrillas raided an army barracks, killed four soldiers and made off with around 300 assault rifles.
With an election looming, Mr Thaksin is under increasing pressure to resolve the trouble, which analysts fear could create a fertile breeding ground for militant networks such as South-East Asia's Al Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiah.
"It's all building up to the point where we're in serious danger of what is so far a rather serious law and order issue turning into a broader insurgency," said Steve Wilford of Singapore-based Control Risks Group.
Despite a curfew imposed in eight districts of Narathiwat province after Monday's unrest, militants set fire to a school building and burned tyres on several highways.

NOTICE THE BURNING OF SCHOOLS THESE MUSSIS JUST CAN'T LIVE AND LET LIVE??

THEY HAVE TO KILL IF YOU WILL NOT BOW TO THEIR ROCK!!

THIS IS WHY BUSH SAID THIS IS ALL OVEr THE WORLD AND HAS TO BE DEFEATED BEFORE IT GROWS ANY MORE THERE IS NO WHERE TO RUN TIME TO TAKE A STAND!!

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