I wonder what would have happened if Mohamed Elmasry had been a Jew or Christian saying something comparable about Muslims. From CP, with thanks to Twostellas:
A University of Waterloo professor who is also the president of the Canadian Islamic Congress won't be disciplined for controversial comments he made about Israelis, the university announced Wednesday....The university released a statement Wednesday announcing the results of its investigation into Elmasry's comments.
"Although the statements made are indeed abhorrent and unacceptable, I have taken into account the contents of the apology and retraction and your long years of distinguished service as a faculty member at this university as well as your assurance that there will be no repetition of any such statements in the future," dean of science George Dixon said.
If a man like Elmassry is the President of the Canadian Islamic Congress this strongly suggests that his views reflect mainstream Islam not those of the oft-repeated 'tiny minority of extremists'.
Also in the UK, one of the key figures in Al-Muhajiroun, Amjem Choudrey (I'm not sure about those spellings) is/was the head of the Muslim Lawyers Association, unless I'm very much mistaken.
As usual the liberal elite have one rule for the muslims, another law for everyone else. The only encouraging thing about this case is that the more the liberals make exceptions for the moslems the more ordinary people are becoming resentful of both islam and the Left.
While the general population may have sympathy for the "under dog" , they have little respect for muslims who are constantly whining that they're a special case. As Mr.Spencer points out there is no doubt that if these comments had been made about moslems by a Christian then the professor would have been sacked.
Elmasry is so sick with religion he's become a veritable socio-path. The reaction of the university and of Canadians in general speaks volumes.
Right now, Muslims in Ontario are threatening to have their children walk out of classes that offer sensitivity training for tolerance of same sex parents. I hope this means that I can instruct my children to leave the class the next time there is anything positive said about Islam, the death cult.
Many people in the media and even Mr.Coren predicted little would happen to him and if there's no mass outrage by Muslims then it will only re-afirm the perceived unfounded fear mindset
in valid since the 9/11/01 slaughter.
The man is a weasel and below is a post from his Org.'s website titled
"Killing children no big deal for Israeli army"
that's shown as being in the November 5th bulletins.
http://www.canadianislamiccongress.org/fb/friday_bulletin.php?fbdate=2004-11-05
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Also take note how the MAT(Muslims against terrorism) yahoo's in Canada posted a recanting of their attack on Elmasry's rant about killing Israelis over 18 years of age.
The real paradoxical irony for the University and the C.I.C. is that while Elmasry now denies he ever said it,the UofW accepts his excuse for saying the exact thing he claims he didn't say.
Don't forget that the C.I.C. is the main proponent for demanding Sharia-Law in Canada for Muslims,and Elmasry attacked a lesbian Muslim during a TV show as offensive to Allah and not a "True" follwer of Islam,and of course her book
exposing misogyny in Islam was part of her "Zionist backed agenda" against Muslims.
If this was a College professor speaking out against islam in the media spot light at a Christian College or University, CAIR would be on his arse to get him fired.
You can breath hatred against the Christians and Jews in Canada, but you cannot speak out against islam otherwise you are committing a hate crime.
Why can't these islamic scumbag ragheads leave!?
Ummagumma:
Check out this link to CAIR's exact campaign
that hounded a Jewish member of B'nai B'rith
until he was forced to quit while Elmasry kept his job. The transcripts only show the part of the coment that appears to justify terrorism against Palestinians,I saw the two airings of the show and the C.I.C. is covering their ass to avoid being banned for supporting terrorism.
Elmasry is still subject to the police probe of his hateful bigoted comments he now blames on Palestinians the told him of this desire to murder all Israelis over 18.
http://www.caircan.ca/itn_more.php?id=A1209_0_2_0_M
As a Jewish Canadian though not a graduate of this particular University, I call on all Jews and Christian alumni to cease all donations and funding of the University until the University takes action to remove this terrorist from its faculty.
petero:
I agree, and ever since the Concordia terroristic style protest by the Muslim student body I've wanted all tax-funded Universities
to stop the bigotry or be cut off and rely on
tuition for running the school.
Foreign students from the middleEast have used the student visa's for getting into Canada to push their agenda back home.
Here's a link to how Muslims like CAIR and the C.I.C. have used "Racism" to get Islam and the quran in the classroom.
This week in Toronto Canada Muslim parents demanded the right to remove their kids from a human rights workshop on Tolerance for children
of same gender parents to stop the bullying in the schoolyard. How ironic that the same Muslims that approve non-Muslims being exposed to the quran and Islam by force,are now offended and feel their rights are violated because they condemn Homosexuality.
You'll like the part where MENTORS claims Muslims discover America and we're the occupiers
on Muslim land. Another website claims the kids are also told that Islam had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack and nor did Muslims.
It was blamed on them as part of the 700 years of Islamophobia they have suffered through so far.
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-06/22/article06.shtml
What would it take to get someone fired from his university perch, from which he justifies murder in the name of Jihad? What would Elmasry have to say, other than justifying murder of civilians, to lose his protected status -- a status that was never supposed to protect declared support for murder, or treason (see all the pro-Nazis who lost their jobs during World War II).
Many universities have been conquered, seized from within. This has taken place partly through the cunning deployment of Arab money. The Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown -- Espositio, Voll, Haddad -- is simply a nest of apologists who will do everything they can to avoid having American non-Muslims fully understand the belief-system of Islam, especially as it relates to Infidels. The Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown, meanwhile, helps promote a few key themes -- the centrality of the Arab-Israeli dispute (never seen as what it is -- an endless Jihad against an Infidel nation-state in the midst of dar al-Islam), the perfidy of Israel, and the natural alliance between Arabs and Americans, if only that little matter of Israel were taken care of to Arab satisfaction.
Still others have proceeded by funding "chairs" which, in turn, are to be filled not through a carriere, or a siege, ouverte aux talents, but rather through a pre-selected candidate (Rashid Khalidi was handpicked for the Said Chair -- no other candidates were seriously considered, and now this former Beiruti propagandist for Arafat can dispense his wisdom on NPR, farcically decked out in his academic disguise as that appetising and solemn thing, the "Edward Said Professor of somethingorother." And these people manage to pull in, one by one, others just like them (of course, a few not "Court Jews" but rather "Campus Jews" are left in the Department, a few being serious holdovers, the other being of the Gil Anidjar (" 'Hate'" is a universal emotion -- Jews hate Arabs, Arabs hate Jews," or "the construction of the Other" or -- well, add a soupson of Walter Benjamin, a dash of Heidegger, perhaps a little Emmanuel Levinas as they do in the soup-kitchens of Paris --- et voila, monsieur, fare fit for a campus king (and Anidjar's consort Avital Ronell dares write a book on "Stupidity"? Talk about chutzpah).
Shaw said of great wealth that there was nothing wrong with it -- it was just that all the wrong people had it. The same might be said of tenure. Nowhere is this general observation applied with greater justice than to departments of Middle Eastern studies, where one helps another to tenure (and keeps out all those who really know about Islam, and for some reason think students of the Middle East need to learn about it -- both about its tenets, and about the history of Muslim conquest and subjugation, not leaving it up to some bland treatment in a whirlwind tour of world religions). Though European governments and peoples are far ahead of America in their appeasement, in departments of Islamic studies, the Europeans are not nearly as doing as badly as in America. This may reflect the generally higher standards for doctoral work (the kind of thing that passes here for scholarship, or at St. Antony's College, Oxford, perfectly decent in its East European and Russian studies, but in its Middle Eastern studies, where the late Albert Hourani held court, dispensing favors like a plump abbot -- the ghost of Anton Besse, the Adeni Jewish trader whose legacy helped to found the college, must be horrified); in any case, scholars of Islam in Holland and Germany and elsewhere are not nearly as ill-informed as many the situation is not quite as bad in Europe as it is in America -- in Europe Islam is still studied, and not hidden from view, and in Germany and Holland, for example, one can still meet scholars who try to maintain standards; in the U.S. that tends to be encountered more frequently at the smaller schools (the ones where people still teach) -- the rich and glossy ones are, with a handful of exceptions, corrupted by Arab funds, as well as academic fashions ("the Other," Orientalism), which the psittacistic impulse promptly spreads. Polly want a cracker?
Whatever kind of pressure it takes,it should be applied against the university,to fire this muslim fanatic.
He should be also deported,but probably none of the two will occur.
I would be the last one to take the muslim side on any matter,but i would remove my kids from any class that glorifies homosexuality.
It's called "tenure". He'll never be fired, unless HUGE international pressure are put on the university, and they are exposed for the racist, dhimmis that they aree.
I ama Canadian and I am appalled at Waterloo. But then they are only Ontarioans so what else could we have expected of them? So close to Quebec, the French 5th column ruled by France, can only do something to them, right? Right.
Thank you Hugh and fellows for your support.
And if you think that taking away state funding and making me foot the bill is going to solve anything, think about student debt, and rich Nazis being the only ones who go there. Too many Nazis getting together and plotting just can't be a good thing.
I was thinking the other day, that since we're all being taught to be good Nazis (they don't say it, it's implied), I would wear a Nazi costume to school to show them that words can lead to application. But who would make the suit? I don't have the suit as of yet. Hehe, what do you think they would say? Lock me up?
De-tenure and trash the bastard!
One wonders where the tenured conservative academics are in this melee....since they too are presumably protected by tenure, why don't they speak out against this hate-mongering by the leftist-jihadi axis?
BTW,Elamsry and others of his ilk don't really apologize for their actions,if you read the context of the claim you'll see they only express
a concern that people were insulted and offended.
That's like hiting someone with your car and
later when your at the hospital to check up on the victim,you then tell the Police had bad you feel and then apologize for the blood all over the road.
An apology is an admission to a cruel and irresponsible attack or opinion on someone that
was unfounded and outright ignorant.
Elmasry and the UofW have only acknowledge the harm done to the image of Palestinians and the fear inflicted on Jewish students attaending their University,they don't condemn the attitude
and mindset that lead to the spewing of this hate and ignorance.
I saw both airings of the show he was on and there is no way anybody viewing his body animations and voice tone in the delivery could
conclude he didn't hold those views and was caught expressing them during his ad lib tirade.
If the Police fail to uphold our hate-laws
once they've finished disecting the copy of the show to see Elmasry's intent and affirmation of that view three times in the show.