Dhimmi France rejects Muslim group probe

So this group may indeed be anti-Semitic and linked to Hamas, but Dominique de Villepin doesn't seem to care. From Reuters, with thanks to Twostellas:

PARIS (Reuters) - France has rejected a U.S.-based Jewish group's call for legal action against one of the country's largest Muslim organisations that it says is anti-Semitic and is linked to the militant Islamist group Hamas.

Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin said Paris had proved it was tough on Islamic radicals by questioning about 100 so far this year and expelling 17 of them.

But he declined to follow up a call by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre to probe links between the Union of French Islamic Organisations (UOIF) and pro-Palestinian groups it says collect money for Hamas and to replace the UOIF leadership.

"We must avoid stigmatising anyone or jumping to conclusions," he told Europe 1 radio on Sunday. "It's clear the state is being tough, but it's not its role to jump to conclusions."

The UOIF denied it was anti-Jewish.

The Wiesenthal Centre's Paris office urged the government two weeks ago to launch a probe "leading to the dismantling and possible condemnation of this organisation's current leadership and its replacement by more moderate voices of French Islam".

Its director Shimon Samuels said the UOIF was "a radical political organisation" linked to the Muslim Brotherhood spiritual guide Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawi, who has issued fatwas (religious decrees) supporting suicide bombers.

The Centre also linked the UOIF to a pro-Hamas group banned in the United States.

Samuels also provided texts from a forum on the UOIF Web site which he said documented anti-Semitic views it condoned.

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One cannot say enough bad things about Dominique de Villepin. The formula I have attempted to suggest repeatedly is "preening poseur." The diplomat-poet, who will read you his verses, whether you asked to hear them or not. There was a telling picture of him a year or so ago, going backstage after what's-her-name, the actress in Pauline au plage who married Bernard-Henri Levy (another preening poseur, but not nearly as stupid as DdeV), had just opened in "Beauty and the Beast" -- my how silly he looked.

Don't forget that DdeV won't let you forget that he was born in Sale, hard by Rabat, in 1953, and so -- having spent those important years 0-3 or so in Morocco, he "understands" the Arab and Muslim world. Right. And if he doesn't "understand" everything, except how pretty the Centre du monde arabe is (oh, and it is, lots of curlicues and calligraphy and a real hammam), then Tahar Ben Jelloun and the silly Gilles Kepel, or the pretend-serious Olivier Roy (imagine Gilles Kepel crossed with, say, Anthony Cordesman, so there's a bit more portentousness and grownupnesss in the delivery of the obvious than you find in Gilles "Wrong Again" Kepel).
Perish the thought that he could take time from his busy schedule to read the late Kateb Yacine on Berbers and Arabs, much less, on that little matter of Islam -- say, does that Paris-Amsterdam train still go aller-retour from the Gare du Nord. No time to consult with the maghrebins laiques organization in France, or to read Kateb Yacine on the Arab treatment of Berbers and Berber culture, much less to read Ibn Warraq, or Ali Sina, or Azam Kamguian, or Anwar Shaikh on Islam as Arab Imperialism, or a thousand others who might just set some Infidels straight. But DdeV is one of the ruling elite who permitted, to France's great and permanent damage, the migration into France, and the taking root in France, and the failure to contain or constrain, in France, millions of Muslims who, now that they are there, have made life less interesting, more inhibited, more unpleasant, much more expensive, much more agitated, and far more dangerous, to Infidels.

France should be referred to, formulaically, as Occupied France. But the Free French, from Brazzaville to Boston to Buenos Aires to Beijing, can start having mini-demonstrations outside the French embassies from far Ouagadougou to near Brussels. It will begin to get attention. Make the signs, get them ready, putting before the world’s media, and to the French themselves (and making an end run around Megret and Le Pen, of course), the theme of liberation from this cult that thinks it has come to stay – and is aided by the silly likes of Dominique de Villepin.

For those who remember their zero-de-conduite schooldays, and who now appreciate that greatest of French contributions to world civilization, the dictee:

More Montaigne, Less Mohammad

For those who had the misfortune to study after things eased up, and who failed at the time to appreciate the dictee, and perhaps appreciated just a bit too much the que scais-je? theme, and for whom the world is not quite as world-centered as for their parents or grandparents:

More Mistinguett, Less Mohammad

Or, to remind us that long before there was the cheap crook Chirac, or the poseur D.de V., there were other kinds of people in power, who might best be evoked by the smiling, clever, relaxed, bemused, cultivated face of French tolerance, and que-scais-je, mixing Montaigne and Mistinguett, French governments at their short-lived best (from 1945 to 1958), derided because of the rapid succession of leaders, but in light of the corruption, the torpor, the presumption, of the Chirac regime, or the Mitterand regime, or the De Gaulle regime, were all those post-war leaders really to be deplored? Here is the final slogan:

More Mendes-France, Less Mohammad


"La France a perdu une bataille. La France n'a pas perdu la guerre. Elle n'est pas seule. Elle a un grand empire derrière elle! cette guerre ne prendra pas fin avec la bataille de France car c'est une guerre mondiale".

The “empire” referred to her must be that “mighty empire” of L’Amerique septentrionale. Otherwise, the text needs no emendation and no gloss.

Français, I speak to you from Brazzaville.

De Villepin is the "archtype"of French diplomacy : High born, ENA rigged,non-elected.
It is this last characteristic that creates the bigger problem for this "flamboyant Bozo"
to be the heir of Chirac against Sarkozy.

The sad news is that Sarkozy,the very likely next French president ,promises to be just as
lethal as Villepin would be,maybe even more.

As Eric Zemmour,a young and pertinent
Figaro writer analyses it,Sarko has already put his chips on an "exploded" multi-cultural France with Islam a strong an growing part of it.He,as many others,will stop at nothing to
gain the Muslim vote ,10-15% of the population ,(a real count of the Muslim population in France,or in Europe,is an absolute know-no).

He therefore has been proposing,with renewed insistence for the last month,to
build mosques on public funds,in clear contradiction with the law of 1905.

PS: Dear Hugh,it might be a good thing to watch your back in Brazzaville !
It seems that when things go sour in Africa,
every week or so nowadays,the final culprit
is...the white man.
In Ivory coast,the crowds chant : " A mort les Blancs..."

The communique could have been issued from Upper Fetchham or Pickpocket Woods, New Hampshire or Sotteville-sur-mer in Belgium, just as well, but where Free France got its official start seemed most appropriate.

Sorry about Sarkozy -- but are you quite sure he can be written off the way D.de V. can? Once he realizes that government-sponsored mosques can not possibly succeed -- perhaps those maghrebins laiques can get his ear when Gilles Kepel and Olivier Roy are at some pointless conference -- or after the next attack, perhaps he will come round.

Cote d'Ivoire: A mort les blancs, they may chant, but what are they really chanting? They are chanting against the French government, for for taking the side of the Muslims in the north, and trying to force the government to grant citizenship to all those Muslims who have flooded in from nearby countries. What they are really chanting is: A mort la dhimmitude, and the French, who live thousands of miles away, and in their mad pursuit of appeasing Muslims everywhere, are perfectly willing to sacrifice the interests, and the countries, of black African Christians.

For the French it is all a question of continuing colonialism by another name -- but this time, the French colonialists are working with their new allies, the Arab Muslim colonialists.

This attempt, by the Christian ivoiriens, however imperfectly or maladtroitly presented, to rescue themselves from being forced to islamize their country -- being forced because the French forced them to sign a terrible agreement, and are working to deprive them of the wherewithal to defend themselves against northern Muslim aggression is, en petit, the Biafra War -- when everyone in the world, save for Ghana and Israel, shied away from recognizing the independent nation of Biafra -- whose time, by the way, may well come again. And this time one hopes the United States will see the wisdom of allowing the southern Christians --under whose land is all the oil -- to go their own way, and not be exploited and bullied by the Muslim military caste in the North any longer.

One more thing, Roman. The names had to alliterate on "M" for "Mahomet" or "Muhammad." That is why, after Montaigne and Mistinguett, the last in the sample series was the milk-touting spouse of Lily Cicurel. But there were many others whom, if you are French and reading this, you can add to your own bumpbersticker or signs outside this mairie, that centre du monde arabe, even -- with police protection -- that mosque down the street.

Matisse, Jean Moulin, Montesquieu, Montgolfier, Marcel Marceau -- these too, are people who would not have been permitted under Islam to act or to create or to invent as they did.

At some point, the similarity of Islam as a belief-system to Fascism, and the lack of similiarity to all other religions, will become clear. And then, too, the effect on art and science and mental freedom will be clear.

The question is: when? When there is still time to prevent catastrophe, or when it has become too late? Demography need not be destiny. There are a thousand ways to keep people from coming or from staying in a country, all of them eminently justifiable.

There are a thousand ways to keep people from coming or from staying in a country.

Hugh,I would like to share your optimism.But.

In order to keep people from coming,you need borders.Europe,with its
expansion,now has countries without the means of maintaining them ( Eastern Europe) or the will (Turkey,with the blessing of the US and Israel,who recommend for others something they would not have for themselves in their
worst nightmares: It is sometimes no effortless to stay pro-american).

Now keep Muslims from staying...

Keep one million geiten neukers from staying in Holland,land of the plenty,where passports grow on windmills,where imams can call for the erasing of a christian message about Van Gogh ,”Thou shall not kill”,on a public posting space because it is in the vicinity of a mosque.
( http://www.noord.kw.nl/video/wim/wim.ram )


Keep seven to eight millions enculeurs de chèvres from staying in France,
land of the not so plenty,but still “milkable”,where the political establishment,right and left,relish in their dhimmitude,where the protest
current is conveniently kept in a party(FN) regularly disqualified by the
pathological antisemitism of some of its leaders,and members.

It is a known fact (by the Renseignements Généraux) that Islamists
have weapons cache across France,and across Europe.
Ready for the day a massive murder or bombing would trigger a strong and probably blind response from the police and the army.With the likely consequence of muslim population siding with radicals.

That looks indeed like civil war.
I’m not sure I would like to live in a country after such a war,even if “my”
side had won.
Anyway,Bush or Kerry or Hillary would probably have bombed us first.
Ask Milosevic...

And what about those signs? Would they start people talking? One is trying to offer small, but rational steps to begin to awaken Western publics, including that of France.

Those signs would ,I fear,start people
talking only if the one bearing them met a tragic fate .
I think that reason was a path that should
have been taken much much more upstream.

The turbulent child that French Islam was 25 years ago should have been checked,and
spanked if necessary.
Today,he is a dangerous adult thug,
who has never been restrained.