Tiny minority of extremists update: a survey shows that almost three-quarters of the Arab world wants the violent jihad terrorist group Hamas, which has boasted of its murders of civilian non-combatants, to take over for Yasir Arafat. From the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to LGF:
A survey of the Arab world organized by the Al-Arabia network website after the death of Yasser Arafat, showed 73.72% want a Hamas representative to replace Arafat, ITIM reported. In contrast only 0.7% expect that one of the PLO leaders will take over.25.58% were in favor of an independent candidate.
113,107 participants from across the Arab world took part in the survey.
The facts are freakin' satring at us in the face....
Sample some other well known stats -
(Pew research conducnted surveys on attitudes towards America).
Some 90%+ of Egyptians (the Arab country receiving the highest in US foreign aid), some 80%+ of Arabs (outside Iraq and kuwait), some 70%+ of Puke-istanis hate America. Not just the politcal actions of the US govt but IMHO the values that America stands for. Even non-arab allies like Turkey have a lcear majority in the anti-US camp.
And we still try to win hearts and minds? Let's dump that nonsense and talk strength - incidentally the only language the islamists know and respect.
It's not surprising that Arabs would support the group that exists solely to eradicate Israel from the globe. The Arabs will always be "wild asses," their hand will be against everyone, and everyone will be against them. (You've got to believe that even the Arabs know that the world puts up with them only because they have oil.)
Anyone who thinks that the Arab-Israeli conflict can be "resolved" without the destrucyion of Israel is ignorant -- perhaps wilfully or naively so -- of Islam
And indeed this perhaps willfull ignorance is the damnation of those politicians, those western slugs who attended arafat's funeral and fawned over him.
And the Israeli left with their insanity and moral nihilism, who cannot face the reality of permanent Jihad against Israel.
Israel is an Infidel sovereign state. It exists on land that Muslims believe belongs to Dar al-Islam and is populated by the hated and despised Jews.
It is like a Maronite Lebanon- a blasphemy, a blight upon the land of Islam. It is as simple as that! It cannot and must not be allowed to exist.
the war must be won- however long it takes- a decade, a century, it matters not.
But the war against Israel serves an important purpose in confirming to the Arab world that the Europeans are indeed dhimmies to the Caliphate, im their unwavering support for the lies and attrocities commited by the Palestinians.
It is a thermometre ,that measures the level of dhimitued and success of Islamic though infiltration in western politics.
ANd this support is itself a dhimmy tax paid for the benefits of arab oil. A taz that humiliates and shames western politicians and their minions of corrupt media who fawn over Arafat, a man whom many Arabs themselves in positions of power consider a corrupt and despicable individual.
How thse Arabs must laugh at the submission of Chirac who lneels and prays at the bedside of this awful terrorist scumbag.
ANd to take up the folly of land for peace!!
like the Catholic curse of the wandering Jew, Israel is condemend to a perpetual state of war, which may interrupted by periods of truce lasting years, but these hudnas, will n0t extinguish violent Jihad which has raged on and off for 1350 years already.
But of course the most potent weapon is not the horrific carnage of islamic terror, which is aimed at instiling fear and appeasement at the weak westerners,it is the demographic jihad, the one fought with the wombs of women.
But the Muslims made a mistake on 9/11 and in the period following. They ought not to have massacred western innocents, but just quietly kept migrating, flowing into the Western world, building mosques, building madrasas. But now, one suspects, it is too late. Too many cats out of too many bags.
as a result, most in the west now understand what has been happening in Israel for so many years, and perhaps the pendulum will swing back towards israel again.
What was that again?
"THERE IS NO PALESTINE"
YKWH AKBAR
And let us not forget:
Hamas has publically declared United States an 'enemy'. Nothing new, of course, but there are no excuses for 'unknowingly' endorsing or doing business with a group that is 'on the fence'; whoever endorses this group endorses war against America. It is that simple.
The Jihad is on and the United States is in Hamas' sites. We must constantly remind ourselves of that. It is the truth.
I wonder how reliable Al-Arabi is as a poller -- also wonder whether Arabs are giving their honest views, or speaking out of fear or ignorance of what Hamas really is -- certainly these folks are not getting full information in the totalitarian countries in which they live -
I am sort of pessimistic about Islam, and lean toward the view that it's not a benign cult fundamentally -- no separation of religion and state because Mohammed was a theocratic ruler -- nor is man made in the image of god, as far as the Koran is concerned, or so it seems -- not being made in the image of god (as in the Judeo-Christian tradition) man is not deemed, I suppose, to have a divine spark of freedom and creativity in him. Allah seems to have a monopoly on creativity, as shown by the common Islamic view that it is blasphemy for artists to portray living beings. The blasphemy lies in pretending to be a creator, when only Allah is a creator.
Daniel Boorstin says that as far as commanding and creating go, Islam is weighted significantly toward divine command, while the Judeo-Christian tradition is weighted more toward divine creativity (though both religions have both aspects). Thus, Boorstin points out, Allah didn't have to rest after creating the world, because he didn't make the world, he simply commanded it to be, and it was. The Jewish god had to make the world and even to rest on the 7th day. And having made man in god's image, God told man to be fruitful and multiply (be a creator too).
In Christianity, "my kingdom is not of this world" and "give to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, to God the things that are God's," like many other biblical statements, led gradually over centuries to the separation of church and state.
Christ's washing of the feet, among other things, led gradually to societies in which the only compulsion deemed justified had to be based on free contractual relations and the rule of law.
Also, the fact that love was the most important commandment, according to Christ, places an emphasis on human inwardness and individuality that seems to be relatively lacking in Islam, and this Christian emphasis on inwardness led over time to the protection of the individual's civil rights and right to freedom of conscience.
Still, Michael Novak, a giant intellectual figure, a theologian, economist and political scientist, seems to hold out hope that Islam has elements that can be brought to the fore to bring about a free Islam, and seems to believe that most Muslims want liberty, and would express that if they could do so safely.
For the moment, I lean more toward Spencer's 'pessimistic' view of what we are up against (a massive and rather sinister cult, is how I sometimes think of it), but I respect Novak deeply and I'd love to see Spencer and Novak discuss or debate Islam on NRO or elsewhere. If the two of them published a book of such debates, (somehow I don't think Novak would do that) it might be extremely useful.
How is Christ washing his feet related to Voltaire's and Hobbe's philosophy? That is ridiculous. In Islam all Muslims are required to wash their feet before they pray, and Muhammad(pbuh) wah the one who started the practice. Love is also an importan part of Islam, Allah is loving to all his creation, even to bigots like you.
If love is an important part of Islam, how do you justify the constant murder required by your religion? How do you justify the way you treat your women. I see only death, hate and subjugation in your religion. How should Theo van Gogh have been dealt with in your opinion? How about Ali Hirsi? Do any other people in creation deserve "love" besides muslims?
Of course it came from the retard!
"Love is a part of Islam??" The first time I hear that!
Where is there anything in that dirty book of yours that mentiones love? You mean having sex with children? No?
I get it: You mean how to beat your wives into submission and how to send your kids out to be Shahids and to blow themselves up?
I must be missing something here. It certainly is not one of the
" 5 pillars of Islam."
Of course it came from the retard!
"Love is a part of Islam??" The first time I hear that!
Where is there anything in that dirty book of yours that mentiones love? You mean having sex with children? No?
I get it: You mean how to beat your wives into submission and how to send your kids out to be Shahids and to blow themselves up?
I must be missing something here. It certainly is not one of the
" 5 pillars of Islam."
"u r all retards" said:
"Love is also an important part of Islam, Allah is loving to all his creation, even to bigots like you."
Do you mean the kind of love for sex with 9 year olds that the Prophet Mohammad engaged in (I call that paedophilia), having sex with a dozen or so women on the same day (I call that rampant lust), engaging in the genocide of entire Jewish tribes after they surrender to you, murdering poets and free thinkers for just criticising the prophets murder of others and caravan raiding, the commandments to murder lesbians, stoning people for having sex, calling people "apes and pigs" just because they were born into a religion (i.e. Judaism).
No...that isn’t love, that is evil. Think about that next time you say bs here, otherwise it is you that looks like the retard in the truest sense of the word.
Ur all retards said:
(1) "How is Christ washing his feet related to Voltaire's and Hobbe's philosophy? That is ridiculous. In Islam all Muslims are required to wash their feet before they pray"
(2) UR all Retards also said I am a bigot.
My answer to #2: yes, you are partly correct -- being a fallible person, I am sometimes bigoted, though I hope to become better. I hope I have not been bigoted in what I said.
As for #1: I was not referring to Christ washing his own feet. I was referring to Christ washing the disciples' feet. This is one of the historical events (in addition to the ancient Greeks) that led to Voltaire, Hobbes, and many others. Why? Because, wrong or right, the Christian world has interpreted Christ as God, third person of the trinity -- and if you believe that even God gives the example of SERVING others, humbly washing ordinary mortals' feet like the lowliest servent, how much more must all the rulers in the world justify their rule with humility and service to their people? You may say Islam has such sentiments too, and I'm sure it does have elements of such. But Christ is reputed by the Bible to have said that he who would be greatest among us must be the humblest, the greatest servent, not a lord over us. The point here is not that this is true or not about Christ. The point is that holding this as a belief, even if Christ never in fact said it, has very benign effects on social organization, and is one of the things that makes Christianity compatible with civil rights, indeed, a revolutionary source of civil rights (as for example in the abolition of slavery).
Ur all retards said:
(1) "How is Christ washing his feet related to Voltaire's and Hobbe's philosophy? That is ridiculous. In Islam all Muslims are required to wash their feet before they pray"
(2) UR all Retards also said I am a bigot.
My answer to #2: yes, you are partly correct -- being a fallible person, I am sometimes bigoted, though I hope to become better. I hope I have not been bigoted in what I said.
As for #1: I was not referring to Christ washing his own feet. I was referring to Christ washing the disciples' feet. This is one of the historical events (in addition to the ancient Greeks) that led to Voltaire, Hobbes, and many others. Why? Because, wrong or right, the Christian world has interpreted Christ as God, third person of the trinity -- and if you believe that even God gives the example of SERVING others, humbly washing ordinary mortals' feet like the lowliest servent, how much more must all the rulers in the world justify their rule with humility and service to their people? You may say Islam has such sentiments too, and I'm sure it does have elements of such. But Christ is reputed by the Bible to have said that he who would be greatest among us must be the humblest, the greatest servent, not a lord over us. The point here is not that this is true or not about Christ. The point is that holding this as a belief, even if Christ never in fact said it, has very benign effects on social organization, and is one of the things that makes Christianity compatible with civil rights, indeed, a revolutionary source of civil rights (as for example in the abolition of slavery).
Ur all retards said:
(1) "How is Christ washing his feet related to Voltaire's and Hobbe's philosophy? That is ridiculous. In Islam all Muslims are required to wash their feet before they pray"
(2) UR all Retards also said I am a bigot.
My answer to #2: yes, you are partly correct -- being a fallible person, I am sometimes bigoted, though I hope to become better. I hope I have not been bigoted in what I said.
As for #1: I was not referring to Christ washing his own feet. I was referring to Christ washing the disciples' feet. This is one of the historical events (in addition to the ancient Greeks) that led to Voltaire, Hobbes, and many others. Why? Because, wrong or right, the Christian world has interpreted Christ as God, third person of the trinity -- and if you believe that even God gives the example of SERVING others, humbly washing ordinary mortals' feet like the lowliest servent, how much more must all the rulers in the world justify their rule with humility and service to their people? You may say Islam has such sentiments too, and I'm sure it does have elements of such. But Christ is reputed by the Bible to have said that he who would be greatest among us must be the humblest, the greatest servent, not a lord over us. The point here is not that this is true or not about Christ. The point is that holding this as a belief, even if Christ never in fact said it, has very benign effects on social organization, and is one of the things that makes Christianity compatible with civil rights, indeed, a revolutionary source of civil rights (as for example in the abolition of slavery).
I hope Hamas wins the PA elections in 6 weeks.
Callistos~ your post brought on a blink from me- but then I realized, it pretty much doesn't matter who wins, if Hamas is the best bet. Most people, I suspect, have no clue how bad that is.
Vote for HAMAS! :) Imagine Bush shaking the hands of someone wearing a green ski-mask at the white-house. Wouldn't that be hilarious.