Germany: Greens call for nationwide Islamic holiday

Great idea Germany; exalt Islam, ridicule Christianity, abhor Judaism and Jews.
If the secular atheists in the German Federal Government want to recognize religious holidays, why not have one or two "generic" holidays and incorporate all religious observances? To make sure no one is offended or left out, the dates for these holidays should be as far removed from dates of religious signifcance as possible, like maybe sometime in August and March. Europe seems to be striving for some type of generic culture devoid of all indigenous influences but sympathetic to Islamic traditions.
I practically grew up in Germany and it was a beautiful, clean, harmonious country. The Germans aren't the friendliest of Europeans, but they are decent, generally well-disciplined, hard-working people. It's difficult for me to visualize a muslim-flooded Germany, and impossible to imagine the proud Germans silently tolerating a barrage of incongruous immigrants whose culture is diametrically opposed to their own. But Germany is a huge country and I guess it hasn't reached the saturation point yet. I haven't been back to Germany in over twenty years, but is it possible for people to change so much, so fast?

I have just written to Mr. Stroebele. Here is the translation:

Islamic Holiday in Germany

With Respect, Mr. Stroebele, but you are totally bonkers. Instead of more respect we need more awareness and less political correctness. I recommend you read the website www.jihadwatch.org, www.frontpagemag.com and www.danielpipes.org

It should be clear to you that you – at least in my view – have outed yourself as anti-semitic by your affinity to Islam(ism). I hope you will live well with that. Maybe you should have a discussion with Mrs. Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

His email address is hans-christian.stroebele@bundestag.de

How about a day to celebrate the wedding of Sadams illustrious sons to the 72 virgins.

Also Arafats wedding to the 72 virgins.

But then for balance, a non muslim holiday celebrating that of Adolph who must surely be in the same heavenly bordello.

It seems to be a universal trend that 'greens' everywhere, are in contact with strange mushrooms growing in the woods.

Green should realize that in general they and Muslims have conflicting interests in some major areas.

The main one is that the Greens want people to consume less petrol to save the planet whereas Muslims would like us to consume more in order to strengthen the Arab nations hence Islam itself.

For this reason I doubt whether many Muslims would vote Green.

First of all, do they know of the connection between Islam and Nazi Germany?

Why not have public days off for Jewish holidays? Wouldn't that be a better commemoration for the six million Jews who were killed by the Germans?

Seems like the Greens have not been doing their home work concerning recent history
or they are suffering acute schizophrenia,or may-be something more devious.
They and the left are very anti nazi but very pro islam.Now this does not make sense,
But after reading the following two articles,a very frightning picture emerges.
#1 The Worst Thing in Europe
A brief introduction to the Schröder system.

Leo Bauer

The 1998 Reichstag elections ended an era. Since 1945, the Federal Republic never has had a government change triggered by elections. Then, the conservative Cold War era leader Helmut Kohl was replaced with the Social-Democrat Gerhard Schröder. The numbed political elite, which for decades had been shaped by the Nazi continuity, finally was resurfaced with a fresh bunch of leaders.

This generation came out of the core of the 1968 Radical Movements and until 9/11 could be considered as one of the most successful career cliques that ever abandoned the Left. Inspired by an odd amalgamation of revolutionary and anti-Western ideas, Schröder succeeded with a political marketing hoax: The 1968ers in power sold imperial Sonderweg ideas as Antifascist modernization. With weeny unburdening coming as moral strength, they had found the Orwellian way to cope with national history.

In contrast to the Kohl system, domestic affairs were subordinated to foreign policy instead of tradition. The effective difference was marginal, dissent straitened to anti-immigration details. Finally, the Conservatives stopped stigmatizing the 1968ers in power as Leftists when George W. Bush took office in January 2001. Foreign Minister Fischer, with three decades of experience in keeping the souvereignity over the airspace in the Left, had marginalized all critics. The Schröder system successively achieved what Steven Erlanger, correspondent to the New York Times, had called "more responsibility in Europe", while the Student Movement Coordination Commitee for a Democratic Iran described it as "the logistic demilitarized zone of international terrorism".

The story of the Berlin Republic is the story of three successful lawyers once defending the former Palestinian-trained terrorist Rote Armee Fraktion (RAF) group: Otto Schily, who now is Minister of Interiour, Christian Ströbele, who now is the Reichstag deputy representing the Peace camp, and Horst Mahler, who now leads the Nazi camp. These men are the political skeleton of current Germany.

The publisher Rudolf Augstein, who died in 2002, had been a childhood friend of Uri Avnery in the 1920s. His Spiegel newsmagazine wrote in February 2002: "There is a photo showing the three together in a Berlin courtroom. Mahler, in the middle, speaking, Ströbele and Schily turned towards him, listening. It is 1972. Mahler is sued as a member of the RAF group, the two others are his defenders. The trio on the photo had a shared goal. They saw the state as a preserver of societal imparity, as a vassal of America. They wanted another republic. Though they were disagreeing about the way there. ... About 30 years later they cover the whole political spectrum of the Federal Republic. Ströbele is the imperturbable left, Schily the arch-burgeois in the middle, Mahler the extreme right racist."

Mahler is the only "lawyers collective" member who personally got involved in terrorism. Then, on the peak of the RAF activities in 1977, the government of the Ex-Wehrmacht officer Helmut Schmidt introduced a customized law. By banning collective defense in group crime proceedings, the "lawyers collective" was washed up. Though never giving up his claims on the fathership of the RAF, Horst Mahler turned away and found a new defender. An unknown young lawyer from the Social-Democratic Party youth organization specialized on his case and in 1988 succeeded in restoring Mahlers concession. His name is Gerhard Schröder.

Schröders first term of office was shaped by two huge political campaigns which enveloped all other domestic debates. In winter 1999, the conservative party was shattered by the collapse of the Kohl system, a network of distributing bribe to organize party consent. Most of it came from a Fuchs tank deal with Saudi Arabia in 1990 (the same tanks Schröder denied to Israel), where the House of Saud had paid a fivefold market price, including € 110 Mio. for "provisions and useful expenditures". The then German arms export law had a regulation which allowed bribe to be paid in the customers country, so Kohl arranged the deal for Thyssen-Krupp, the former Kaiser's cannon manufacturer, but paid the bribe at home. Current CDU leaders still are the rubble from that system, like Roland Koch, who recently won the Hessen state elections. Koch had a quite inventive idea to explain his hidden sources of money and said it came from Jewish inheritances. The parliamentary board of inquiry Schröder had set up to clear the corruption affair was headed by Christian Ströbele, who in 1991 had stated that "the Iraqi missile attacks are the logical, if not coactive consequence from the Israeli policy". As a result, the public debate focussed on the conservative party and consequently avoided any analysis of the role of the House of Saud.

In summer 2000, a bomb on Düsseldorf-Werhahn urban railway station hurted ten Jewish immigrants from the former Soviet Union and killed a baby. Finally, the Nazi camp got public attention. In the 1990s, it had become hold of the souveignity over the airspace of the streets of more and more East German rural areas. Trapped in quarrels, it increasingly benefited from an inflow of 1968er renegades who were manufacturing new consent. Though appearently not linked to the bomb, the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) then was its most promising organization. The explosion triggered an extensive debate among politicians whether to ban that party. Horst Mahler announced his defense of their case against the Minister of Interiour Otto Schily. Yet before the Reichstag had made a decision, an attack by Palestinian immigrants against a Düsseldorf synagogue triggered a huge manifestation at the Berlin Brandenburg gate, promoting patriotic moral courage against extremism but blindspotting the Intifada context. At the same time, Horst Mahler and a few other Nazi ideologists relaunched the 1994-founded Deutsches Kolleg as a think tank of the fascist right. The parliament passed the decision on to the Federal Consitutional Court, where the NPD proceeding is still pending, as it became an outing of intelligence service collaborators in the party.

The Deutsches Kolleg published several declarations explaining its political views, including some on 9/11. As a lawyer specialized to the Volksverhetzung law, which criminalizes cataloged forms of hatespeech if public impact is proven, Horst Mahler knows how to sail around the crags of the Paragraph 130 without crippling his message. Partly together with Reinhold Oberlercher and Uwe Meenen, he authored these statements, which are shaped by a reference to World War I that had been an unusual historical concept even in the Nazi camp.

On Sept 9, 2002 in Mainz, Mahler was convicted to pay an € 7.200 fine for "approval of crimes" in one of the declarations. A similiar statement given to the Panorama TV magazine on Sept 20, 2001 resulted in Mahler being sued in Hamburg. After he refused to pay a penalty order of € 6.000, a trial was announced for Jun 10, 2002 but then postponed to Oct 28, 2002. As Mahler appeared at a discussion of the Wahhabist Hizb ut Tahrir group the day before and the event made it into the news, this session was also postponed. A third try was made on Jan 13, 2003 and postponed again. Two days later, Schily banned the Hizb ut Tahrir group, but more to prove his iron hands than to make Wahhabism an issue in public debates. The word had not even been in the news, and the Mahler lawsuit was not put in that context.

Mahler stated about Schröder: "In public, he still must conceal what really moves him." Maybe Mahler requires to be considered as a bit more candid. Possible, that one could say these writings were the worst thing in Europe.
#2Hans-Christian Ströbele was one of the main Baader-Meinhof lawyers leading up to the Stammheim trials of the mid 1970s. Along with Klaus Croissant and Kurt Groenwald, Ströbele was excluded from the trial shortly before it began in 1975. They were accused of complicity with the terrorists.

During the testimony of RAF-turncoat Gerhard Müller, he accused Ströbele of carrying messages between various accused prisoners in different prisons, of planning to rebuild the RAF after the trials, and of having the responsibility for transporting explosive formulas from Jordan. It is worth noting that all defendants accused Müller of lying throughout his testimony.

By the turn of the new century Ströbele finds himself a member of the Bundestag as a part of the Green party coalition with the SPD. Ströbele's name came up in the news in November 2001 when he was one of 8 members who had expressed doubt in Prime Minister Gerhard Schroeder's plan send troops to Afghanistan to support the American war on terrorism. The actions of Ströbele and his cohort threatened to collapse the government, but this was averted at the last minute through deft politics by Schroeder.

I see the Greens in Germany are as idiotic as they are in the States.
What did I expect??

"a holiday directly after the fasting period of Ramadan could be one possibility, an idea supported by environment minister Jürgen Trittin"

Yes, I believe this would more or less be called "Christmas". (Not that close, but I think you see my point.)

Geoff

Dear susanp,if you ever go back to Germany,to visit,you will be very,very dissapointed by what you`ll see.
I go to Germany every year,for a few days ,to visit friends who live there,in a city near the dutch border.
Germany has changed dramatically in the last 10-15 years,it is dirty,it is poor,it is scared,decent people in the big cities don`t go out at night for fear of muslim gangs that are roaming the streets.
Muslim immigrants demand and they always get whatever they want,at the expense of the german taxpayer.
The socialist government and left wing politicians are corrupt,they abuse the system,and now the system is about to collapse.
Germany is a beautiful country,i have once taken a boat trip on the Rhine River,i have seen the ancient splendid castles on both river banks,i have admired the Koln Dome and the Krupp Park.....too bad that all these german treasures will be soon desecrated by the muslim hordes who have invaded the country.

Elephant: "I doubt whether many Muslims would vote Green"

Not sure how they would vote in Germany but there was a survey done a few months back here in Oz, as to how Muslims would vote. The Greens were actually second on their list, after Labor first. Liberals won, thank God (a distant last for Muslims' preferences). But the reason for it here would be that both the Muslims' favourite political parties have lax policies when it comes to "refugees" and welfare. The Libs here put their foot down back in 2001 with the Tampa because it was getting ridiculous. Boat after boat after boat. Our refugee and immigration policy & rate of intake was being dictated by illegal immigrants. The Tampa was hijacked by these illegals and made to go to Oz even though Indonesia was closer. The public was tired of it. The Greens, of course, just hated this strict policy, and still do. So of course the Muslims prefer the Greens because that's the easiest way for their "family reunifications". And endless taxpayer funds to pay for their dozen kids. The Greens especially love the concept of people not having to work but getting lots of money for it.

Dear Feralee:

Yes, thanks for pointing me right on this one.

I had thought about voting Green in local and European elections because I'm an enironmentalist at heart but decided against it because they said nothing about curbing immigration and asylum.

In a country as densely populated as England to preserve the environment you've got to try and stop it becoming even more overcrowded with yet more land disappearing under concrete and tarmac.

I'm sure that by now for most Muslims the key election issue is which party will be the most helpful in Islamifying Britain, hence the way that nearly all the parties are falling over themselves in canvassing for the Muslim vote.

I would propose a national holiday, called: "Hug The Muslim Borg".

Which of Mohammed's massacres should this holiday be in remembrance of?