In Dubai, two prominent converts to Islam exhort Muslims: Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam says Muslims should follow the example of Muhammad as detailed in the Hadith, and Hamza Yousef praises jihad. From the Khaleej Times, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
DUBAI — The Muslim society has lost the ability of strategic thinking, which Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) exemplified by compromising on several points with the enemy when he signed the Treaty of Hudaibia, said leading American Muslim, Shaikh Hamza Yousuf, at a lecture on Monday.
Interesting. This is a treaty that Muhammad broke nearly two years after he had signed it. In those two years the strength of the Muslims had grown rapidly, so he seized upon the pretext of a minor skirmish between Muslims and some allies of the pagan Quraysh, with whom he had concluded the treaty, to launch a full-scale attack on the Quraysh stronghold in Mecca. His victory sealed the success of his movement. So is Hamza Yousef recommending that Muslims conclude treaties in order to gather strength, and to fight again more effectively when it is opportune to do so? It would seem so:
Elaborating his point, Shaikh Hamza Yousuf said, “There are times when you have to live like a sheep in order to live in the future like a lion.”
I wonder if he was referring in any way to the statements and positions of American Muslim advocacy groups.
Earlier in the event, Yousuf Islam exalted the virtues that identify the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), and described him as the very personification of compassion and generosity....Yousuf Islam pointed out that if more people were introduced to the true Islam, there would be peace, and this does not happen because the propaganda is strong.
That sounds like the Islamic peace of Sayyid Qutb: the peace that will result from the hegemony of the Sharia. Can the Cat envision any peace without people being introduced to Islam -- in other words, a peace that comes from mutual respect without agreement? A secularist, pluralist peace? Or can peace only come from the introduction of Islam?
Yousuf Islam pointed out that despite its spiritual waywardness, the one good thing the West really teaches its people is to keep an open mind....The Traditions of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), or Hadith, is a unique account of the lifestyle and behaviour of a messenger of God ever, and offers the Muslims a ready and detailed reference to living their lives as its reflection.
“So many have come and gone, and their teachings have changed..., sometimes people wonder if they really ever existed. The hadith, with its minute detail, makes sure that there are no queries left unanswered,” he said.
Indeed. For one thing, it contains specific instructions from Muhammad on the offer Muslims are to give to non-Muslims: conversion, submission, or death.
Replying to a question on Jihad, Shaikh Yousuf Hamza said that irrespective of what many say, Jihad is the duty and responsibility of all Muslims.“Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam. If there is an oppressor and there is Jihad to stop his oppression, it is a mercy on him (the oppressor),” he said, adding that Islam, however, does not allow Muslims to terrorise prisoners and innocent people.
Once again this statement contains less than meets the eye. If only the definitions of "terrorize" and "innocent" weren't so elastic. Islamic law allows for prisoners to be either killed, enslaved, ransomed, or freed outright, depending on what is deemed best for the Muslims. So doing any of these is not, from the standpoint of Islamic law, to "terrorize" prisoners.
“Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam. If there is an oppressor and there is Jihad to stop his oppression, it is a mercy on him (the oppressor),” he said, adding that Islam, however, does not allow Muslims to terrorise prisoners and innocent people.
Interesting thought. I wonder if anyone has remembered to tell margaret Hassan that? She was shown in another video last night, and even Al-Jazeera was backing off. Apparently, she was shwon begging for help from Blair, then she fainted, and then someone threw a bucket of cold water on her to revive her. She then lay in the water sobbing helplessly, stood up, tried to speak but was crying even harder and then fainted again. Why won't the American press carry this? I was physically ill after reading about her video, and couldn't stop crying. I was up until quite late last night. I'd like to see more Americans and CAnadians have some sleepless nights worrying about how innocents are treated by Muslim murderers.
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We got a Fight to Fight Kerry whinny baby you lost give it up so the country can get down to business Killing Islamic Terrorist!!!
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Libbysmom: Margaret Hassan being tortured should be seen by the world and by Americans. Barbaric.
Hi all,
Congratulations to all the republican supporters who visit this site!!!
Any democrats reading this, I'll just say, with a wuss like Kerry you never stood a chance, he had no plans to tackle terrorism, and that is what all westerners, especially Americans should be concerned about. Also if you're a democrat voter, and you're here, then you've made the first step towards reality (KJ, your almost there, if you'd just drop the losing team).
And to those who could give a shit either way....
SAUSAGES
Any-hoo, back to topic:
Comforting to know isn't it, that in muslims men (if they are worthy of such a description) we have millions of muhammed (piss be unto him) wannabes. By that token , is there any wonder we're seeing heads dropping off in greater numbers than a living dead movie, as well as muslim-perpertrated genocides of peoples of every other religion .
With a role model like that, who needs a bad influence. One things for certain, satans got some competition.
Oh, brother! Cat must have dropped one too many tabs of acid during his musical heyday. Fried all his brain cells. That must be why he converted to Islam and is such an avid spokesperson and supporter. You can't be normal and go all whole hog like that.
Jihad as mercy? Yeah, right. Tell that to all its victims. I get sick and tired of all these lies spewed out by these slick snake oil salesmen of Islam. Painting their failed, backward, evil cult in pretty colours, when Islam is only one colour - red. Blood red.
Libbysmom,
The sub-humans holding Magerat Hassan have no intention of releasing her, which is what fills me with the most rage.
They know the prisoners aren't going to get released, they know the British troops aren't going to leave (even if she was British, which she keeps pointing out she isn't.... IE- she's of irish origin, and has lived in Iraq for 30 years), yet the still hold her and torture her, as well as god knows what else, (imagine whats going on off camera- makes you shudder doesn't it).
If they had any kind of mercy they'd release her, or at least kill her and stop the psycological and physical torture. But the sick bastards are probably enjoying it. They've got a bit of a shag-piece until their superiors give them the order to hack off her head... a prospect that fills them with even more exitement.
There's another point that needs pointing out, I think more to the apologists, appeasers and batty-kissers than anyone.
Magerat Hassan is a muslim.Granted; she's a convert, a white convert at that, probably what Arab muslims think of her type as the lowest form of muslim: White Convert Muslim Woman... can a muslim be any closer to being an infidel??? But nontheless, by any measures she is a muslim, and one that has lived in Iraq for 30 years, working as an aid worker. And even she is not safe from the clutches of lower-than-bacteria life-forms that pose as human. I think the point I'm trying to make is, this is how much respect these fungi-coated excretae heaps have for human life, it doesn't matter how much you've done for them, what sex you are, what age you are (proven at Beslan), or what religion you are (countless muslims have been slaughtered by their own species of ape... not to mention all of the suicide bombers...Jesus the pustulous-pricks have no respect for their own worthless lives) these sub-humans will kill anyone in any number to acheive their goals, which is none other than chaos and world domination.They are monsters who take pride in killing, torturing, destroying, raping,abusing...etc...in the name of their demon Allah.
And we thought the nazis were bad....PAH!!!
Chapter 2: APPOINTMENT OF THE LEADERS OF EXPEDITIONS BY THE IMAM AND HIS ADVICE TO THEM ON ETIQUETTES OF WAR AND RELATED MATTERS
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Book 019, Number 4294:
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah's Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah's behest with regard to them.
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PEACEFUL MUSLIM HYPOCRITES:
Qur’an 48:11 “The desert Arabs who lagged behind [in fighting] will say to you (Muhammad): ‘We were engaged in (looking after) our flocks and our families.’ We have prepared for them a Blazing Fire!”
Qur’an 48:17 “There is no blame for the blind, nor is it a sin for the lame, nor on one ill if he joins not in the fighting. But he who retreats, (Allah) will punish him with a painful doom.”
Qur’an 4:77 “Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold your hands from fighting, perform the prayer and pay the zakat. But when orders for fighting were issued, a party of them feared men as they ought to have feared Allah. They say: ‘Our Lord, why have You ordained fighting for us, why have You made war compulsory?’”
Qur’an 4:78 “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers built up strong and high! If some good befalls, they say, ‘This is from Allah;’ but if evil, they say, ‘This is from you (Muhammad).’ Say: ‘All things are from Allah.’ So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?”
Qur’an 4:88 “What is the matter with you that you are divided about the Hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (causing their disbelief). Would you guide those whom Allah has thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah has thrown aside and led astray, never shall they find the Way.”
Qur’an 4:89 “They wish that you would reject Faith, as they have, and thus be on the same footing: Do not be friends with them until they leave their homes in Allah’s Cause. But [and this is a hell of a but...] if they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”
Qur’an 47:20 “Those who believe say, ‘How is it that no surah was sent down (for us)?’ But when a categorical [decisive or uncompromising] surah is revealed, and fighting and war (Jihad, holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) are ordained, you will see those with diseased hearts looking at you (Muhammad) fainting unto death. Therefore woe unto them!”
Qur’an 47:21 “Were they to obey, showing their obedience in modest speech, after the matter (of preparation for Jihad) had been determined for them, it would have been better. Is it to be expected that if you were put in authority and given command that you would do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. Such men are cursed by Allah. He has made them deaf, dumb and blind.”
Qur’an 4:97 “Verily, when angels take the souls of those who die wronging themselves (by staying home), they say: ‘In what (plight or engagement) were you?’ They reply: ‘Weak on the earth.’ Such men will find their abode in Hell, an evil resort!”
Qur’an 4.:8 “Except those who are feeble—men, women and children—who cannot devise a plan nor have the means or power. These are those whom Allah is likely to forgive.”
Qur’an 9:16 “Do you think you will get away before Allah knows who among you have striven hard and fought?”
Qur’an 9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e., Jihad) you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you march, He will afflict and punish you with a painful torture, and put others in your place. But you cannot harm Him in the least.”
Qur’an 9:43 “May Allah forgive you (Muhammad). Why did you grant them leave (for remaining behind; you should have persisted as regards to your order to them to proceed on Jihad), until you had known the liars.”
Qur’an 9:44 “Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day do not ask for an exemption from fighting with your goods and persons. And Allah knows well those who do their duty.”
Qur’an 9:45 “Only those ask for exemption (from Jihad) who believe not in Allah and whose hearts are in doubt, so that they are tossed to and fro. If they had intended to march out to fight, they would certainly have made some preparation and readied their equipment; but Allah was averse to their being sent forth; so He made them lag behind. ‘Sit you among those who sit.’ If they had marched with you, they would not have added to your (strength) but only (made for) discord, spying and sowing sedition. There would have been some in your midst who would have listened to them. But Allah knows well those [peace-loving Muslims] who do wrong and are wicked.”
Qur’an 9:48 “They had plotted sedition before, and upset matters for you until the Decree of Allah [to fight] became manifest, much to their disgust. Among them are many who say: ‘Grant me exemption to stay back at home (exempted from Jihad). And do not tempt me [with promises of booty].’ Have they not fallen into temptation already? Indeed, Hell surrounds them.”
Qur’an 9:67 “The Hypocrites enjoin what is forbidden, and forbid what Islam commands. They withhold their hands (from spending in Allah’s Cause [Jihad]). They have forgotten Allah so He has forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are oblivious, rebellious and perverse.”
Qur’an 9:68 “Allah has promised the Hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers the Fire of Hell for their abode: Therein shall they dwell. It will suffice them. On them is the curse of Allah, and an enduring punishment, a lasting torment.”
Qur’an 9:74 “The Hypocrites swear by Allah that they said nothing, but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they disbelieved after Surrender (accepting Islam). They meditated a plot (to murder Prophet Muhammad) which they were unable to carry out. The reason for this revenge of theirs was the bounty [of booty] with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back, Allah will punish them with a grievous torment in this life and in the Hereafter.”
Qur’an 9:75 “Some of you made a deal with Allah, saying, ‘If You give us booty we shall pay You the tax.’ But when He gave them booty, they became greedy and refused to pay. As a consequence of breaking their promises, Allah filled their hearts with hypocrisy which will last forever.”
Qur’an 9:77 “He punished them by putting hypocrisy in their hearts until the Day whereon they shall meet Him, because they lied to Allah and failed to perform as promised. Allah knows their secrets. Those who slander and taunt the believers who pay the zakat (for Allah’s Cause) voluntarily and throw ridicule on them, scoffing, Allah will throw back their taunts, and they shall have a painful doom. Whether you ask for their forgiveness or not, (their sin is unforgivable). If you ask seventy times for their forgiveness Allah will not forgive them.”
Qur’an 9:81 “Those who stayed behind rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger. They hated to strive and fight with their goods and lives in the Cause of Allah. They said, ‘Go not forth in the heat.’ Say, ‘The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat.’ If only they could understand! So let them laugh a little, for they will weep much as a reward for what they did. If Allah brings you back (from the campaign) to a party of the hypocrites and they ask to go out to fight, say: ‘You shall never go out to fight with me against a foe. You were content sitting inactive on the first occasion. So sit with the useless men who lag behind.’ Do not pray for any of them (Muhammad) that die, nor stand at his grave. They rejected Allah and disbelieved His Messenger. They died in a state of perverse rebellion.”
Qur’an 9:85 “And let not their wealth or (following in) sons dazzle you or excite your admiration. Allah’s plan is to punish them with these things in this world, and to make sure their souls perish while they are unbelievers. When a surah comes down enjoining them to believe in Allah and to strive hard and fight along with His Messenger, those with wealth and influence among them ask you for exemption from Jihad. They prefer to be with (their women), who remain behind (at home). Their hearts are sealed and so they understand not.”
Qur’an 9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe him, strive hard and fight jihad with their wealth and lives (in Allah’s Cause).”
Qur’an 9:90 “And there were among the wandering desert Arabs men who made excuses and came to claim exemption (from the battle). Those who lied to Allah and His Messenger sat at home. Soon will a grievous torment seize them.”
Qur’an 9:93 “The (complaint) is against those who claim exemption [from fighting] while they are rich. They prefer to stay with the (women) who remain behind (at home). Allah has sealed their hearts. They are content to be useless. Say: ‘Present no excuses: we shall not believe you.’ It is your actions that Allah and His Messenger will observe. They will swear to you by Allah, when you return hoping that you might leave them alone. So turn away from them, for they are unclean, an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place, a fitting recompense for them.”
Qur’an 9:97 “The Arabs of the desert are the worst in unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger. Some of the Bedouins look upon their payments (for Allah’s Cause) as a fine and wish disasters to fall on you (so that they might not have to pay). Yet on them be the disaster of evil.”
Qur’an 9:101 “Among the desert Arabs are hypocrites. They, like the people of Medina are obstinate in hypocrisy. We know them. Twice shall We punish them, and in addition they shall be brought back to a horrible torment.”
Qur’an 9:120 “It is not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger (Muhammad when fighting in Allah’s Cause), nor to prefer their own lives to his life. They suffer neither thirst nor fatigue in Allah’s Cause, no do they go without reward. They do not take steps to raise the anger of disbelievers, nor inflict any injury upon an enemy without it being written to their credit as a deed of righteousness.”
Tabari IX:13 “Muhammad turned to see Umm, a pregnant woman, who said, ‘O Messenger! Kill those [Muslims] who flee from you as you kill those who fight you, for they deserve death. Here is my dagger. If any come near me I will rip them up and slit open their belly with it.’”
Tabari IX:49 “One of the hypocrites, feeling an aversion to battle, being skeptical of the truth, and spreading false rumors about Muhammad, said that they should not go out in the heat. With regard to him, Allah revealed: ‘They said, “Do not march out in the heat.” Say, “The heat of hell is far more intense.”’”
Ishaq:602 “Jadd told Muhammad, ‘Will you allow me to stay behind and not tempt me? Everyone knows that I am strongly addicted to women. I’m afraid that I’ll see Byzantine women and will not be able to control myself.’ The Apostle gave him permission to remain behind. It was about him that Allah sent down: ‘There are some who say: “Give me leave to stay behind and do not tempt me.” Surely they have fallen into temptation already and hell encompasses these unbelievers.’ (9:49) It was not that he feared the temptation from the Byzantine women. The temptation he had fallen into was greater in that he had hung back from the Apostle and sought to please himself rather than Muhammad. Verily hell awaits him.”
Ishaq:603 “One of the estranged ones said to another, ‘Don’t go out to fight in this heat.’ He disliked strenuous war, doubted the truth, and created misgivings about the Apostle. So Allah sent down regarding them, ‘And they said, “Do not go out in this heat.” Say, “The fires of hell are hotter. Let them laugh a little now for they will weep a great deal later as a reward for what they did.’” (5:82)
Ishaq:603 “Some Bedouins came to apologize for not going into battle, but Allah would not accept their excuses.”
Ishaq:246 “The surah of the Hypocrites came down because some men sent secret messages to the Nadir Jews when the Apostle besieged them. So Allah sent down, “Have you not considered the Hypocrites who say to their brethren, the People of the Book [Jews], ‘We shall never obey anyone against you. If you are attacked and driven out we will help you. Allah bears witness that they are liars.’”
Qur’an 59:11 “Have you not observed the Hypocrites saying to their unbelieving brethren among the People of the Book, ‘If you are expelled [from your homes by the Muslims], we will go with you?’ But Allah is witness that they are liars. If the Jews are expelled, never will the Hypocrites go with them; if they are attacked, they will not help them defend themselves. In truth you [jihadist Muslims] are more fearful and awful (than they) because they are afraid of you. This is a result of the terror (sent) by Allah. They are men devoid of understanding.”
Qur’an 59:14 “They are a divided people devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so both of them will end up in Hell.”
Qur’an 8:20 “O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger. Do not turn away from him when you hear him speak. Do not be like those who say, ‘We hear,’ but do not listen. Those who do not obey are the worst of beasts, the vilest of animals in the sight of Allah. They are deaf and dumb. Those who do not understand are senseless. If Allah had seen any good in them, He would have made them listen. And even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away and declined submission.”
Qur’an 8:47 “Be not as those who came from their homes full of their own importance, trying to turn men away from [fighting] in Allah’s Cause. Allah is encircling them. Satan made their acts seem alluring to them, and said: ‘No one can conquer you this day, while I am near you.’ But when the two armies came in sight of each other, he turned on his heels, and said: ‘Lo! I am not with you. I see what you cannot. Verily, I fear Allah: for Allah is severe in punishment.’”
Qur’an 8:49 “When the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘The religion has deceived and misled them.’”
Qur’an 8:55 “Verily the worst of creatures, the vilest of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him and will not believe. They are those with whom you make an agreement, but they break their covenant every time, and they keep not their duty [to fight].”
Qur’an 61:2 “O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.”
Qur’an 63:1 “When the Hypocrites come to you they say, ‘We bear witness that you are indeed the Messenger of Allah.’ Allah knows you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness the Hypocrites are indeed liars.”
Qur’an 63:2 “They have made their oaths a screen, thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds. That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts.”
Qur’an 63:4 “When you look at the Hypocrites, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are pieces of wood propped up. They think every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah is on them! Allah will destroy them. How are they deluded and perverted?”
Qur’an 63:6 “It is equal to them whether you ask forgiveness or not. Allah will never forgive them. Allah does not forgive the transgressing people.”
Qur’an 63:7 “The Hypocrites are the ones who say, ‘Spend nothing on those who are with Allah’s Messenger so that they will desert him.’ But to Allah belong the treasures of the earth; but the Hypocrites understand not. They say, ‘If we return to Medina, surely the more honorable (element) will expel the meaner (i.e., Muhammad).’”
Ishaq:372 ““When he went out, Abd Allah bin Ubayy [the man who had advised against leaving town] came back with 300 men, saying, ‘We do not know why we should get ourselves killed here.’ So he went back to Medina with the Hypocrites and doubters who followed him. Abd Allah bin Amr said, ‘Allah curse you, enemies of Allah.
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Oh what a HAPPY DAY!!!!
"Yousuf Islam pointed out that despite its spiritual waywardness, the one good thing the West really teaches its people is to keep an open mind.... "
I guess that's what YI was employing when he was in Toronto stumping for Hamas and described Judiasm as a "so-called religion".
Given that even the Koran acknowledges Judiasm as Islam's predecessor, perhaps what he is telling us, however unintentionally, is that Islam isn't a religion. (and yes, I'm being sarcastic)
If YI numbers among the best and brightest among converts to Islam, they ain't got much to brag about, do they?
A clear win for B., and a clear loss for islamists and eurofops.
HURRAH.
American is not perfect, far from it; it is however, overall, the best thing happening on the planet right now.
And this comes from a 'liberal'.
Hmmm I wonder if Osama is whiping up another tape now that the first one failed...and I guess there is no more attacking NY, they voted kerry, geeze hes gonna have to make a move or all his credibility with the cave dwelling set is down the...well I would say toilet, but Im not sure what they use in caves....
I dont know if they will kill this woman, they havent killed a woman hostage yet...but if they do I wonder what the muslim reaction will be...muslims killing a muslim woman (who by their words is revered) additionally this muslim woman was working with muslim people to better their lives...Im sure somehow it will be bushs fault...or maybe Israel...muslims can never take responsibility
"The Muslim society has lost the ability of strategic thinking, which Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) exemplified by compromising on several points with the enemy when he signed the Treaty of Hudaibia . . . "
Oh, Moslems, it isn't that you have lost the ability of strategic thinking, of the worth of your compromises, it is that we have also read the Koran and the ahadith and that we are wise to your perfidies.
I sometimes wonder what kind of violence Yousef Islam, of Greek Orthodox extraction, had to do his conscience when he converted. He has betrayed all his forefathers who suffered for centuries under the yoke of islam.
"'“Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam . . . '"
May the Almighty* protect us from such mercies.
*with an obeisance to the atheists that post here. Hey, if there is nothing, is there harm in mentioning a universal concept that to your mind does not exist but to the minds of many does?
Setanta
{{I sometimes wonder what kind of violence Yousef Islam, of Greek Orthodox extraction, had to do his conscience when he converted. He has betrayed all his forefathers who suffered for centuries under the yoke of islam}}
Good observation sir. VS Naipaul writes about this as the neurosis of the converted, and references Pakistan, a land of descendants of Hindus who converted to Islam as a particulraly striking example of this. It is truly remarkable, the self hatred, the negationism, that is evident in the convert. It leads to rage, a persistent rage, a psychology of becoming a lickspittle to the Arab and dreaming of the glories of Arab imperialism and hegemony.
Setanta
Further to my last post, there is something drooling and pathetic in the sight of these converts: literally the sappiness of a slave licking the boots of his master. Islam means submission, not only to Allah, but submission to the Arab, his history, culture, neuroses, and imperium.
"'The Traditions of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), or Hadith, is a unique account of the lifestyle and behaviour of a messenger of God ever, and offers the Muslims a ready and detailed reference to living their lives as its reflection. . . '"
“'The hadith, with its minute detail, makes sure that there are no queries left unanswered, . . . '”
If I recall correctly, isn't there a detailed description of how to evacuate one's bowels, whilst sitting on two bricks and facing towards Jerusalem, following the practice of Mahomet?
Please correct me, o fellow infidels, should I have erred.
"Yousuf Islam pointed out that if more people were introduced to the true Islam, there would be peace, and this does not happen because the propaganda is strong."
And it will get stronger, my dear Yousuf. Have yourself tea with the tillerman again. It became you much better.
To borrow and emend a line from Kansas (the group not the state): "Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done--uh, better yet--gone."
>May the Almighty* protect us from such mercies.
>...is there harm in mentioning a universal
>concept that to your mind does not exist
>but to the minds of many does?
No harm at all I guess, however it doesn't seem to be doing much good either.
The universe is big enough for all the universal concepts we can imagine ... except for those that oppose liberty. Liberty is the ability to choose and Islam is engineered to destroy liberty and free thought. There is no room in this universe for it.
The lies and crys of "religion of peace" need to be drowned out by the crys of free men and women who love liberty and demand that it be preserved for their children's children.
Cry out for the justice systems of your countries to put these lying, murdering, bastards where they belong.
No universal concept is coming to rescue us. We have to rescue ourselves.
f.g.
Allah is a fictional character. The Koran is a work of fiction. Mohammad was a lyer, a cheat, and a murderer. He is responsible for more suffering and death than Hitler and Stalin put together. He may be the absolute worst human being to have walked the planet. WAKE UP YOU DOPES!!
Even without the ordeal she's going through, Margaret (I won't use a stupid arab surname for an irishwoman, even if she does) has wasted 30 years of her life trying to help this garbage, do what?, wiping their arses for them because they're too stupid or lazy to do it themselves?
Level it, level the whole rotten stupid dungheap, and let the neanderthals do their dance of death until their hearts are content.
Let them dance around waving each others body parts in the air, let them paddle in their own piss forever, let them slaughter each other over who should have taken over where their prophet of nothing left off, or which angel said what to who, or any other useless, irrelevant, infantile drivel they feel is so important.
Much more fun than trying to add something to the world, isn't it? better than working with the rest of humanity to move further along the road of progress and enlightenment, so much hard work having to think isn't it?
Level it, as a lesson to the rest.
Spiritual waywardness? I despise anyone who calls the west spiritually wayward.
I LOVE the West. I love our culture, our civilisation. I love EVERYTHING about our western society. ON what basis is it spiritually wayward? Spirituality is living the best life that you can lead, and most people in the west manage to do just that.
It is Islam that is spiritually bankrupt.
"Jihad is a mercy" --- Mercy defined: 1. "More kindness than justice requires. kindness beyond that which can be claimed or expected." 2. "Kindly treatment; pity." 3. "Something to be thankful for; a blessing."
Considering that "peace," "tolerance," and other intangibles have alternate meanings in Islam, logically, (if logic and Islam can be used in the same sentence), mercy must mean something else. But look at definition number 1 above. "More kindness THAN JUSTICE REQUIRES." What is Islamic justice? How is it expressed. "Kindness beyond that which can be claimed or expected." We know HOW justice is often expressed even here in the West -- through violence, but not through the barbarity found in beheading and the torture that Margaret is experiencing. "Kindess beyong that which can be claimed or expected." hmmm. As NO kindness is expected, she is receiving mercy. Poor Margaret has no chance as their standards are at rock bottom!
Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam . . . '"
May the Almighty* protect us from such mercies.
Posted by: unicorns62000 at November 3, 2004 03:00 PM
Yea that is what jihad johnny and Goat boy thought???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory[Freedom] to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat and give them Strength to Stand and Fight Amen
Let them dance around waving each others body parts in the air, let them paddle in their own piss forever, let them slaughter each other over who should have taken over where their prophet of nothing left off, or which angel said what to who, or any other useless, irrelevant, infantile drivel they feel is so important.
Posted by: saoirse at November 3, 2004 04:10 PM
Problem they were not kept in their box!!!
They have infested the world with this hate!
Europe will be lost if it keeps caving to the apeasing crowd??
One approch is to get rid of the claeics and change their book? We see Freedom does not help so much because look at all the killing in the Free lands?
Lucky for us most of these people can't read so they only know what they have been told??
Yes some need to be crushed but not all!!
Funny Blair was telling us what we have to do Tony clean the sh-t in your backyard first!!
Love having you'al on our side but can't go there until the arabs love their children more then they hate the Jews!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Defeat the Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
This is significant, and with its accompanying gloss ought to be studied, for several reasons.
First, it brings to everyone's attention the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya, which should be emphasized in every discussion about Islam – and in particular, about the value of Israeli “negotiations” or “treaties” or that disingenuous, or still worse, idiotically native, “two-state solution” (even though that it is a “solution” should be obvious, because of course, it would not have been called the “two-state solution” if it weren’t, would it? – as has been said before at this spot). The New York Times is not going to engage in anything so important as actually attempting to educate its readers as to the tenets of Islam, and it certainly has to use, much less explain, such words as “taqiyya” (or "taqiyya/kitman" as is often put so as to anticipate, and dispense with, the hollow objection that "taqiyya" is a concept in Shi'a Islam alone). And when you use that word “taqiyya” you force others to ask what it means, which gives you the opening you seek to explain it to them, and then to continue into a whole little discussion of the vast army of apologists (Esposito, Michael Sells with his “Approaching the Qur’an,” Carl Ernst, and the rest). And if you are debating a Muslim, and raise the issue of taqiyya/kitman, and then begin to quote from Qur’an and hadith, he is brought up short, and quickly reduced either to silence, or to hysterical sputtering (which comes on rather quickly, one notices).
And here is why the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya was invoked in Dubai – the speakers, Yusuf Islam and Yusef Hamza, sense, as do other Muslims, that in too places, people are beginning to wake up (forget about France – Chirac is on the take, Dominique de Villepin is a poseur and fool, and the court “experts” on Islam such Gilles Kepel – do look up Taheri’s review of his latest product in The London Telegraph – are guides to nowhere and nothing). They are worried, just as Osama bin Laden is worried. Maybe the Americans are just a bit too tough. Maybe their uncompromising approach will wake up the Europeans. Perhaps we need to help everyone go back to sleep, by proceeding nicely-nicely (with apologiest to Damon Runyon).
Remember that the Treety of al-Hudaibiyya was concluced in 628 A.D. with the Meccans, and lasted until Muhammad, having greatly increased the number of his followers, felt strong enough to attack the Meccans, and did so on a flimsy pretext. Muhammad knew exactly what he was doing, and even at the time of the Treaty, while his followers were disheartened, he spoke of it as a “victory” and it has always been treated as such by Muslims – an example of his cunning statecraft, of “war as deception.” It is the model, as Majid Khadduri has pointed out, for all subsequent treaties with Infidels. It is NOT possible to make a permanent peace treaty with any Infidel polity. Only a truce, that can be renewed if the Infidel remains too strong, is possible – sulh and not real peace, salaam.
But, you ask, surely Dennis Ross and Martin Indyk and all those people in the State Department who are supposed to be experts on Islam understand this, and explained this to Clinton, and Carter, and all the others who felt it so very important for the Israelis to “negotiate” and sign a treaty with the Arabs. Don’t they? Could they possibly not understand thoroughly all of this? And if the Arab leaders and smiling diplomats assure them that those who talk about the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya are – eyes rolling heavenward in mock outrage – simply people who do not believe, as we do, in the “possibility of peace.” Oh, you have no idea how little they know, the Indyks and the Rosses and the rest of them. Just look at Tom Friedman, with his Pulitzer Prize, and his platitudes, and his plongitudes. He is the Middle East “expert” at the New York Times. And he knows nothing.
Treaties with Muslim states are worthless. But one thing is not: overwhelming and obvious power, so that Muslim rulers have an excuse, a face-saving excuse, not to go war. The doctrine of necessity, of “darura,” justifies failure to attack. Egypt does not attack Israel right now for the same reason Syria does not – darura. That has to be kept in mind. To be effective the deterrent must not only be overwhelming in reality, but must appear overwhelming, so that Muslims will know it. That is why the further reduction in Israel’s size, even if Sharon, in his current obstinate dementia, believes is valuable (an obstinate dementia which some Israelis seem, out of an ignorance of Islam, inclined to treat as serious statecraft, when it is nothing of the sort), will lessen the force of darura, and make war, not peace, more likely. Of course, if it is simply a means to let the “Palestinians” have at each other in Gaza – the “Somalia solution” – well then it may be worth it, as long as outside Infidels do not idiotically enter to keep the peace.
In this connection one should recall that Arafat was fond of invoking the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya, but only to Muslim audiences, first in May 1994 in Johannesburg -- it was a nudge-nudge-wink-wink to his audiences (See, he was saying, don't worry -- all of this stuff is just to win concessions from the temporarily more powerful Israelis, and when we eventually are strong enough, with Muslims from Capetown to Cleveland, we will go in for the kill, just like Muhammad did with the Quraysh of Mecca -- so relax.
With non-Muslim audiences Arafat would of course never mention the Treaty, but you know -- there was not the slightest reason why American reporters could not have reported the several occasions on which he did so, and attempt to find out about this Treaty. Wouldn't you think that the Washington Post, the New York Times, or 60 Minutes, just might have one reporter -- just one -- who would see mention of this curious "Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya" and want to find out about it, and perhaps even take a book out of the library, to see what it was all about? And wouldn't have been important, during the past decade, or five, to have enlightened readers about Islam? If you are a steady reader of the Times, or the Post, or of whatever Daily Scream you happen to read, have you learned a thiing about Islam in the past few years? Have you ever seen the word "dhimmi" not merely thoroughly explained, but even mentioned?
And it is hardly surprising that not once did the most notoriously anti-Israel reporters from Israel – such as Peter Jennings, now the star in an expensive A.B.C. campaign to make Americans like this man, with his decades of sly narrow-eyed nastiness about both the United States and Israel (as for his Great and Good Friend Hanan Ashrawi, who can ever forget Jennings’ interview with her on September 13, 2001, such good friends, as she went ahead and blamed, with Jennings’ evident approval, you know who – and there is so much more that one could say about Peter Jennings), or H. D. S. Greenway, the man who with his bowties and driving up to work at the Boston Globe’s offices in what seemed to be a different car every day, apparently making him a Big Man on Campus, who only within the last year or two, seems to have gotten a hint that all might not be right with the Coopts in Egypt – it is clear that he never bothered, in more than two decades of covering the Middle East, ever to learn about dhimmitude, or the persecution of the Copts – he knows nothing, and seems never to have made the effort to begin to study the tenets, the history, the significance of Islam on the Middle East – two decades of mere reporting, and nary a word that makes any sense, that is informed with any understanding of history. What a monument to leave behind. Do you think he has ever heard the words, or could easily define, dhimmi and dhimitude? Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya? Do you think he knows about the various recensions of the hadith, and precisely how their “authenticity” is judged? Do you think he knows anything about the history of Muslim conquests and the subjugation of non-Muslim peoples? And do you think, if you explained why the relentless Jihad against Israel, disguised as a “struggle for the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people,” has far deeper sources in the canonical texts of Islam, that he would even try to understand, to realize that all these years he’s gotten the story, his main story, completely wrong because he never did his homework?
My, my, how incurious and how almost willfully ignorant some people can be. Neither Jefferson, nor John Quincy Adams, nor a real journalist – of the Peroncel Hugoz school – would have spent years of semi-retirement among those inherited Chinese vases in that Needham comfort, without at least beginning to read around in the relevant texts.
And along with Jennings and Greenway, this unholy trinity of the unlearned and unteachable should include the former New York Times correspondent in Israel, the languid Chris Hedges, the one who famously accused Israeli soldiers of "killing Palestinian boys for sport,” published a jejune account of his work that became a pacifist manifesto, based on the idea that everyone is exactly the same as everyone else, and War Is Always A Bad Thing. Now Hedges has been interviewing, still for The Times, the likes of – you may have guessed – Tariq Ramadan.
If the Times wonders why people are going to bloggers for information, perhaps it ought to begin with the likes of Chris Hedges. What are the reporters sent to the Middle East asked to learn in advance? Anything? Have they steeped themselves in Qur’an and hadith? No? Why not? Have they read anything about dhimmitude? No? Why not? How can one report on Iraq, on Israel, on Saudi Arabia, on Egypt, on Algeria, on the Sudan, without knowing what it is that Muslims are taught, endlessly, to believe and to act upon? If reporters do not know these things, then their reports on any Muslim country, or any clash between Muslims and non-Muslims in the Infidel world, are virtually worthless.
And the mention above the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya is one occasion when the newspapers cannot make sense of the meaning, for they do not explain what the whole thing is about – they can’t be bothered to learn about it themselves. Extraordinary.
The Dubai Conference described above points out another development that must disturb many Muslims. For now, when they address fellow Muslims, their words will be reported, or the proceedings filmed. Once upon a time they could be secure in their knowledge that Westerners would not pay much mind, and certainly not that they would study every word. MEMRI.org did not exist. Websites where people could easily retrieve the Qur’an and the most authoritative recensions of the hadith (Bukhari, Muslims) did not exist. Until a year or two or three ago, how many in the Western world were paying attention to Da’wa and demographic invasions? Who knew about dhimitude? What siges were available to monitor Muslim demands, Muslim hostility, Muslim aggression world-wide? All that has changed, permanently. There may well be people who now come to this site who, in the fall of 2003, innocently went out and bought that little guide to nothing, Karen Armstrong’s meretricious “Islam,” or perhaps some picture-book by Esposito. How far you have come – you know in your own case. And you also know how important it is to educate others. This cannot be stopped; it can be slowed down, or hastened, depending on the resources available – but not stopped.
Everything now appears in the Arab-language press can be read, and translated, by Infidels. Everything that appears on Arab television can be seen, recorded, and translated by Infidels. Every picture of the mutilated body of a dead female shahid that appears in a magazine for “Palestinian” Arab children can circulate – does circulate – around the world. It is having its effect.
And that is why, when reporters in Dubai now see mention of the Treaty of al-Hudaibiyya, it is important not merely for them to report its mention, but to explain what it means – what it portends, what connection it has to real treaties, now being negotiated or at least discussed.
Like Bin Laden in his last tape, offering a kind of hudna if only, only, people stop picking on him, the two “reverts” quoted above think it may be time, but of course only for a time, to cool it, perhaps even to put a brake on the more spectacular terrorist attacks because the Infidels are getting just a mite restless. They need to be lulled back into their previous attitudes, so that we, in turn, can continue to conduct Da’wa, continue to flow in unopposed to the Bilad al-kufr or Lands of the Infidels, and can really get our campaigns for “a Dialogue of Civilisations” (with lots of free trips to luxurious hotels in Morocco or Cairo, and the infinite pains we will take with our Infidel guests – those trips, with lots of other goodies thrown in, can do wonders for disarming grumpy would-be critics, and transforming them into promoters of that panacea, that dialogue of civilizations that is what the world needs now).
The operative sentence, the sentence which encapsulates the "war is deception" theme (see Bukhari, see Muslim) of Al-Hudaibiyya, is this by Hamza Yousef:
“There are times when you have to live like a sheep in order to live in the future like a lion.”.
Any newspaper or television that fails to report this story, and to emphasise that line, and what it means, or fails to take the occasion of this story to use it as a vehicle for educating its own reporters, and its audience, is irresponsible and guilty of monstrous malpractice. One more reason to give one’s loyalty, and one’s custom, to trustworthy, amusing, altogether winning Jihadwatch, and sites linked to it.
Yusuf Islam follows up: terrorism just isn’t the way to go, it’s not working out. And surely the right way is to get the same results through Da’wa, the Call to Islam, and precisely because those peoplein the West are "taught to keep an open mind." (Making it all the more easy for us). It is amazing to see the clear understanding of the mental freedom available to non-Muslims, being invoked by Muslims who wish, through the Da’wa that will take advantage of that very freedom, to in the end deprive those Infidels of that freedom, as they are either subjugated by, or “revert” to, Islam. Even these speakers recognize that Islam is a closed mental universe, that would never allow such spiritual freedom to its own adherents. They, after all, can be killed if they give signs of apostasy from Islam. It does not seem to bother them. What a primitive cult this cult must be.
Yusuf Hamza conveys the same message that Arafat, in other contexts, conveyed. At the moment, he explains, we have made the Infidels just a bit too wary, and they are a lot stronger still (we haven't yet undermined them sufficiently from within). But we all know that demography in Europe is on our side, that those fools will never limit our migrants, never dare to even hint at expelling us. So for now, we must "live like sheep,” but only to “live in the future like lions.” Now, Infidels, what do you think he means when he says we should “live like sheep” now, in order to "live like lions" later? You know exactly what it means, and it does not, for you, mean anything good.
The two Yusufs – Hamza and Islam – express in their own ways what is preached, to his followers, by the smiling, plausible, and most sinister conductor of Da’wa in the “decadent” West, that possible future Thoughtful Scholar in Residence at feckless Notre Dame – Tariq Ramadan.
An indispensable article.
"Jihad is actually considered a Rahma (mercy) in Islam"
How true. Death due to Jihad would be a vast improvement over living in a dark age festering islamic state. Living in a dark age totalitarian barbaric nightmare isn't a life worth living.
P.S. anyone who from now on buys Cat Stevens music is an idiot with a death wish. The guy turns up in Islamic confrences with some very nasty buddies.
"Earlier in the event, Yousuf Islam exalted the virtues that identify the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him), and described him as the very personification of compassion and generosity...."
The prophet he talks of according to the hadiths commited pedophilia, genocide and murdered many people practising nothing but free speach. The Cat sure does love the Furher of Islam...Zeig Hail!!! Did he do a islamic goosestep all over the confrence stage? Maybe Cat Stevens will be invading Poland tommorrow for Islam. Maybe he will do what his wonderful prophet did and genocide/liquidate some Jews. How sweet of him. Can't wait for his next single.
Hugh
Another masterpiece. Your erudition and insight are sublime. I will say it over and over again. I LOVE YOU.
Re: Margaret Hassan,
What is wrong with these American women who insist on marrying Muslim Arab men? Are they really so blind and ignorant as to what their part of the world is and how they treat women?
BTW I'm female and cannot understand the motives of the women who do marry men like this, I can only conclude they have no common sense to speak of.
Mr. Hugh, respectfully,
I find your comments intellectually sound, and I would place them in the "class of reason" as opposed to some of the neo-fascist sociopathic types I have just recently discovered in my short research here.
I would ask you, sir, to investigate the concept of ijthihad, that very system of islamic thought which rests upon enlightened and progressive interpretation of islamic precepts. Through ijthihad, islam was able to evolve to the degree that allowed the developed of great islamic philosphers and scientists such as Averros, Ibn Rushd of Andalus, the study of astronomy, anatomy, algebra, trigonometry, and calculus, great philosophers and others. Islam was not a completely closed system of thought but one that enabled scientific inquiry based on islamic reasoning. This in contrast to Europe Renaissance and Enlightenment periods which saw the Church and spirituality at one end of the spectrum as closed systems of theology and scientists and philosophers at the other.
Now, arguably, the art of ijthihad needs to be revised and revisited, as it has been neglected since the decline of the Ottomon Empire in the 20th century, but we are not so far gone to the degree that islamic thinkers cannot embrace the concept of ijthihad and its revival.
Now I say this to you fully knowing that there are many contradictions in the muslim world today, many aberrations, but these anomalies, however prevalent should not be deemed the norm, anymore than homosexuality can be deemed the norm, however prevalent.
You mentioned the penalty for apostasy being death, and that this you believe motivates islamic thinkers such as Hamza, etc. from free spiritual expression. Consider that Hamza may indeed not desire apostasy because he does not wish not to be muslim, not because he will be killed if he is not. This argument is presumptuous and flawed.
Consider also that every religion has at one time or the other commanded the penalty of death to those who did not profess its belief. Let us not forget the Inquisition or the Crusades of 1099, when life or death was decided based professing belief in Christianity.
There was once a theory that factions inside the U.S. would initiate a race war between blacks and whites. Reading many of the posts I see here in this place which allegedly is for people on the look out for terrorism, tells me America is on the brink of civil war based on religious ideology.
This is why so many Americans are irreligious and godless.. because they are sickened by religious zealots who only seemed interested in killing.
A murderer is a murderer, muslim or christian or jew.. there is no distinction. "Murder or be murdered" is the mark of barbarity, and not civility. It is also the unmasking of the true face of what many have held in their hearts in this country, a hatred that has now been legitimized and unleashed in the name of fighting terror.
I've been in this page now for several hours just reading and gauging the extremites of personalities I find here, but it seems the dominate personality type here is neo-facist and racist.
I will continue my research here in search of divergent personalities and hope I am wrong.
Mob mentality