Iran said to be developing weapons-delivery systems

Now wait a minute: I thought they had given all this up! From the Washington Times, :

PARIS — Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday the United States has seen signs that Iran is developing technology to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile.

He spoke just hours after an Iranian opposition group charged that Tehran has a secret, military-run uranium-enrichment plant and has bought the blueprints for a nuclear bomb.

Mr. Powell made his remarks while traveling with reporters to an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in Chile.

"I have seen some information that would suggest they have been actively working on delivery systems. ... You don't have a weapon until you can put it in something that can deliver a weapon," he said, according to Reuters news agency.

"I'm talking about what one does with a warhead," Mr. Powell said. "We are talking about information that says they not only have [the] missiles, but information that suggests they are working hard about how to put the two together."

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The article says “Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said yesterday the United States has seen signs that Iran is developing technology to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile”.

Colon is not to be trusted. He said the same thing about Iraq. He openly lied at the UN showing some pathetic satellite photos that had nothing to do with reality. Remember... no WMDs.

Hopefully now Colon feels guilty about getting 100,000 Iraqis killed for little reason. Worse, although only a few Americans have been killed, they will be in danger for many years.

Colon’s words are there simply for the US to open up a new front, don’t get sucked into it…remember now that he’s leaving…he can say what he likes.

Don’t let more of your sons lose their lives, more of your grand childrens be fatherless….don’t do it.

Ad Nauseum:

Your concern about the health and well-being of members of the American military and their families is about as sincere as the notorious "Tokyo Rose" of World War II infamy.

The "100,000" Iraqi dead is a statistical falsehood, unless you are talking about the numbers of Iraqis Saddam has killed. The Lancet's "findings" were based on annecdotal information provided by a very small sampling of respondents.

As for the "no WMDs" -- what exactly were those 400 tons of plastic explosives stored at Al QaQaa? The Duelfer report says very clearly that Saddam spent the "sanctions" years rebuilding his finances through the oil-for-food program, starving his own people while he was at it, keeping scientists on the payroll, increasing their salaries so they wouldn't leave. He was also buying contraband materials that were useful only to chemical/biological warfare and was developing longer-range missiles. So get stuffed with the "no WMDs" mantra that the delusional "anti-war" crowd have gone on chanting.

Not only are you a fraud in pressing your concern for American soldiers, you clearly also don't give a damned about the millions of Iraqis, primarly Kurds and Shias, who endured over 30 years of horror under Saddam or the Iranians who have "traded up" from the terror of the Shah and his secret police to the even greater terror of the ayatollahs and their henchmen.

WD52,

Please don't treat us muslims as mugs. "400 tons of plastic explosives stored at Al QaQaa" hardly constitutes to WMD....no Mr. Bush was looking for Chemical weapons, nucleur material, nerve agents put into missiles to be deployed in 45 minutes, that's what he said.

He sent a 200 man (group 21) team , who spent a year spending millions to try and find WMD to justify the war. Even finding 1 WMD shell or a smoking gun would have done...but they didn't and Bush with his tail between his legs came out and said as much...no WMD in Iraq.

So take Saddam's 400 tons and shove it down your quarries, it is not WMD.

As for the 100,000 figure, please don’t belittle it. How do you know it’s false? It has been deliberate US policy not to count Iraqi dead. “It is only collateral damage, we don’t need to know the extent, I’m sure they’ll get over it”.

The truth is that we don’t know, 100,000 may be too large or it may even be a conservative number.

I get the feeling that you don’t like me much, what I stand for or even much of what I say…..fine, but let’s not get away for reality or the truth which is:

400 tons of plastic explosive is not WMD
100,000 Iraqi dead could be a conservative number.

As for the American dead, at the very least I’m being literal; if you don’t send them …they won’t die.

As for Colon lying last time…. Yes he did.
As for Colon lying again…..I wouldn’t put it past him.

And at any rate swatting a few 100,000 muslims dead isn’t going to solve your problems ….most of them are in your head.

Not all Muslims are mugs, but you clearly are.

400 tons of plastic explosives were but one example that I cited because it is well-known, and not a triffling matter either. Evidence was also found to indicate that Saddam had experiments going on with the bottling of Sarin gas, which was what that Japanese cult used on the subway systems of Tokyo a few years back. And, as I said, the Duelfer report found that Saddam was buying up the makings for chemical and bio warfare and developing more sophisticated delivery systems, waiting for a time when he could carry one without UN inspectors and sanctions impeding him.

100,000 dead Iraqis is conservative for the Saddam years. Saddam killed many, many more people than that. For the duration since the invasion it is probably 16,000, which is not an inconsiderable number, but that would include victims of Muqtada Al-Sadr, Zarqawi the Jordanian etc. and not just those who died pursuant to the bombings and other activities of the various invading forces.

And again, I say you could care less about the dead, American or Iraqi. You just want to post your anti-American/blindly pro-Islamic screeds. Try posting the drivel you write here on The Mesopotamian, etc. You'll be about as popular there as you are here.

Naseem-
Have you ever heard of Halabja? It's a little town in Kurdish Iraq - populated by Muslims, mind you - that Saddam had bombed with mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX. At least 5,000 people were killed, and 7,000 were severely injured. Most of the victims were women, children and the elderly.
If you go to this link, you can click on a picture gallery of the victims. Look at the children good and hard, and then get back with me on how Saddam didn't have any WMD:

http://www.krg.org/reference/halabja/index.asp#

I am touched by your sudden concern for the welfare of me and my countrymen, but don't worry - the theocracy in Iran is doomed to fall under its own oppressive weight - our intervention is unneccesary.

Who stands to gain from a worldwide feud/war on terrorism/whatever between the muslims and the United States?

Let's all follow the money here.............

Peggy~ we have been. It leads to France, Germany, Russia and Especially the UN. And Saudi Arabia, who funds terrorism with one hand while pretending to crack down on it with the other.

btw, Naseem~ what about that Sarin gas shell they discovered. One shell= 5000 dead, if used properly (unfortunate word, that).

How many dead do you need for it to be a weapon of mass distruction?

And what about the nearly two tons of powdered uranium we took out of Iraq? Do you any clue what a couple pounds of that, sprinkled over, say, New York City by way of a crop-duster, would do? It would be an economic disaster if nothing else.

Naseem, maybe you should question what your imans' motives are, instead of Colin Powell's. Jesus said in Luke 20:46-47: "Beware of these experts in religion, for they love to parade in dignified robes and to be bowed to by the people as they walk through the street.[...]But even while they are praying long prayers with great outward piety, they are planning schemes to cheat widows out of their property."

** SUPPORT DEMOCRACY IN IRAN **

Here's an on-line petition in support of the "Iran Freedom and Support Act of 2004", S.2681 IS

http://www.petitiononline.com/sosiran1/petition.html

Here's a letter you can cut and paste and send to the US Senate. It includes the full text of S.2681 IS at the bottom.
Last I heard, this bill was in the Senate Foreign Relations committee and is coming up for a vote in the immediate future, so you need to act NOW.

http://www.venusproject.com/ecs/Bill_S_2681_IS.html

Here are the members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee:

http://members.freespeech.org/irishpows/IFC_INFO/CAMPAIGNS/USUK_EXTRADITIONTREATY/us_govt_senate_foreign_relations.htm#corzine_NJ

For your Senator, you can find his/her office at:
www.congress.org

Signed it, Mike. #1417... Odd, I had close to that same number last time.

BTW, the petition supporting S. 2681 IS is not restricted to US citizens, so please, everyone sign the petition.

Along with Naseem's imams' motives, we could also ask her about the scruples of her government. I'm sure Pres. Mushareff knew nothing about Dr. Khan's nuclear sales to North Korea etc., or of the terrorist training camps operating within Pakistan's borders.

As for the problems "being all in our heads," could she please explain why the Sunnis and Shias are butchering each other in Pakistan, or what the issues are over Kashmere? or over Gudjrarat?or why Bangladesh insisted on independence from Pakistan?

Out of roughly 28 conflicts currently raging around the world, 25 involve Muslims, and, at times, on both sides of the conflict. Not bad for a religious/cultural community that constitutes less than 25% of the world's population.

So, it's all in our heads that Islamic nations are contributing disproportionately to instability and human suffering around the world? Really. Do tell.

waterdragon52 And Mike:

There should be no doubt the Maddman should have been taken out years ago. This is a good example of Muslim tactics on a large scale. The Maddman commited mass murder. He and the UN pilfered money from the Oil for Food program while the citizens lived in poverty. He constructed many palaces, monuments, and statues for himself while his people lived in poverty. This is the reason action is taken against him and his partners in crime!!!! Then there are those who say the action is against the Muslims!!!!! There are those Muslims who believe this rot and decide they have to declare a jihad and start a fight. They started a fight, now they got one. Bottom line. I heard a joke that says it all:

The weapons inspectors asked Saddam - where are your WMDs?

He held up his hands and said - What WMDs.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/17/83609.shtml
Iran, China Forming Major Alliance
Jon E. Dougherty, NewsMax.com
Thursday, Nov. 18, 2004
Just as the foreign policy team of the United States is getting a major overhaul with the resignation of Secretary of State Colin Powell comes new word of a major, growing alliance between "axis of evil" member Iran and communist China.
The relationship, which has been nurtured by both countries for decades, is growing exponentially now, primarily out of China's insatiable energy needs and Iran's increasing hunger for consumer goods, as the economies of both countries continue to expand.
What that means for the United States in the short term is an inability to pressure the Islamic republic into following policies beneficial to Washington. What it could mean for the long haul is a stronger, more menacing Iran and China, each buoyed by needs being met by the other.
According to the Washington Post, China's energy needs have climbed nearly 40 percent in the first months of 2004. Meanwhile, Iran – whose population has doubled since the 1979 revolution – is increasing meeting those needs in exchange for access to China's burgeoning low-cost manufacturing industry.
History of Cooperation
For all intents, the match is a natural. But things weren't always rosy between the two powers.
Before the revolution, the last Chinese official to meet with the late Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi was Chinese Communist Party chief Hua Kuo-feng.
The meeting "left a very strong negative feeling about China among Iranians," Abbas Maleki, director of the Caspian Institute, a Tehran research organization, told the Post.
Ties have improved greatly since then, however. In August 2001, Iranian Ambassador to China Mohammad Hossein Malaek held a reception in Beijing to mark "the 30th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between Iran and China," China's People's Daily reported.
"In terms of economic relations, China has become one of the most important trade partners of Iran," said the paper. "At present, the Sino-Iranian political relations remain steady, and trade and economic ties are also developing fast…"
In March 2002, Wu Yi, a member of China's State Council, made a visit to Iran to meet with President Mohammad Khatami. Again, the focus of the visit was to improve trade and economic ties.
"The bilateral trade between China and Iran has increased fast in recent years, with trade volume reaching some 3.3 billion U.S. dollars last year, several times higher than that some 10 years ago," People's Daily reported.
In August 2003, the Iran's IRNA reported that Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi traveled to Beijing for more economic talks with Wu, giving precedence to "transportation, construction of dams, power plants, petrochemical industry along with gas and oil projects."
And in July of this year, Iranian Parliament Speaker Gholam-Ali Haddad Adel praised the Sino-Iranian relationship, highlighting Beijing's support for Iran's nuclear programs.
Economics
Economically, the cooperation between both nations now amounts to hundreds of billions of dollars over many years.
For instance, said the Post, in October "the two countries signed a preliminary accord worth $70 billion to $100 billion by which China will purchase Iranian oil and gas and help develop Iran's Yadavaran oil field, near the Iraqi border."
And, "earlier this year, China agreed to buy $20 billion in liquefied natural gas from Iran over a quarter-century," the paper continued.
For Iran, however, more is better when it comes to China. Iranian Oil Minister Bijan Zanganeh said this month, according to China Business Weekly, "Japan is our number one energy importer for historical reasons . . . but we would like to give preference to exports to China."
That position, no doubt, will not set well with Japan, which has seen its relationship with China cool in recent years.
Just last week Japan detected a Chinese nuclear submarine in its territorial waters – perhaps not ironically near underwater natural gas fields and several islands surrounded by rich fishing waters claimed by Japan.
China and Iran are currently cooperating on about 100 different projects, many of them infrastructure- and energy-related.
Military Cooperation
Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the growing Iran-China alliance is the Islamic republic's access to the improving technology being developed, deployed and utilized by the People's Liberation Army.
Nowhere are U.S. concerns greater than in the area of ballistic missile technology. American officials have sanctioned Chinese companies for improperly transferring such technology in January 2002 and as recently as early this year, but that hasn't stopped the transfers, experts and analysts believe.
And now, as Iran continues to develop its nuclear program, U.S., European and Israeli officials worry Iran is using the missile technology to build better weapons – weapons that eventually could carry nuclear warheads.
In terms of its nuclear weapons ambitions, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, has determined that China, along with Pakistan and Russia, have probably provided nuclear technology to Tehran.
The accomplishments have been noted by Iranian officials.
"We are on the threshold of entering the international space club ... Until 1998 we were producing short-range missiles and today we are into the production of long-range surface-to-surface missiles like Shahab 1 and 2 which deter the enemy," Deputy Defense Minister for Space Affairs Nasser Maliki said in October while announcing Iran's first launch of a "homegrown" military satellite in 2005.
"It is a small satellite which will prove the capacity of the Islamic Republic of Iran in space technology," he said, in comments posted on military Web site Voicesmag.com.
UPI added that currently only 10 countries – one of them China – even possess satellites.
And sanctions probably won't do much good, say some analysts. That's because whatever sanctions the U.S. or United Nations may place on either Iran or China, they are likely to get from each other anyway.
U.S. Fueling Alliance?
Some analysts speculate the growing influence, military and economic power of the United States, along with NATO's eastern expansion into central Asia, is fueling new alliances, among them Iran and China.
"Politically, the two countries share a common interest in checking the inroads being made by NATO in Asia. . . . The presence of outsiders does not bode well for peace and security," Ali Sabzevari wrote in the English-speaking Kayhan International.
And, as the U.S. moves to contain China, along with the two remaining "axis of evil" countries – the name given to Iraq, Iran and North Korea by President Bush in his first term – the alliance is only likely to strengthen.
What's In Store
According to the CIA, the most likely threats to the U.S. in the future, besides terrorism, are Iran and China.
In an ominous February 2001 warning, months before the 9/11 attacks, the CIA warned that Osama bin Laden and his associates continued to pose the most immediate danger to Americans, former CIA Director George Tenet told lawmakers.
But in addition to bin Laden – a threat which has been borne out – Iran and China also made the list.
"Never in my experience has American intelligence had to deal with such a dynamic set of concerns affecting such a broad range of U.S. interests. Never have we had to deal with such a high quotient of uncertainty," Tenet told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
Iran posed a dual threat because of its propensity to sponsor terrorism and its pursuit of first-rate conventional military might.
U.S. intelligence analysts and Bush administration officials have expressed concern that, with the help of terrorist-sponsoring nations like Iran, al Qaeda or another terror group could eventually acquire a nuclear weapon or other weapon of mass destruction to use against the continental United States.


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/17/102110.shtml
Iran Bought Blueprints of Nuclear Bomb, Opposition Group Says
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004
VIENNA, Austria – Iran bought blueprints of a nuclear bomb from the same black-market network that gave Libya such diagrams and continues to enrich uranium despite a commitment to suspend the technology that can be used for atomic weapons, an Iranian opposition group said Wednesday.
Farid Soleimani, a senior official of National Council for Resistance in Iran, said the diagram was provided by Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani head of the nuclear network linked to clandestine programs in Iran and Libya.
"He gave them the same weapons design he gave the Libyans as well as more in terms of weapons design," Soleimani told reporters in Vienna. He said the diagram and related material on how to make nuclear weapons was handed to the Iranians between 1994 and 1996.
Mark Gwozdecky, spokesman for the International Atomic Energy Agency said, "we follow up every solid lead," but added the U.N. nuclear watchdog would have no further comment.
A diplomat familiar with the agency and its investigations into Libya's and Iran's nuclear programs said the IAEA had long feared that Iran might have received bomb-making blueprints from Khan.
"The IAEA has found that Iran received pretty much the same things Libya did from his network," said the diplomat, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. "The one thing that they have not been able to find was the blueprint."
Libya bought engineers' drawings of a Chinese-made bomb through the Khan network as part of a covert nuclear program that it renounced last year.
Iran says it does not have such drawings, and no evidence has been found to dispute that claim. But experts say it is possible that Iran possesses a copy.
Former U.N. nuclear inspector David Albright earlier this year described the Chinese design that Libya owned up to having as something "that would not take a lot of modifying" to fit it on Iran's successfully tested Shahab-3 ballistic missile.
The opposition group made its claim days after Iran announced it would suspend all activities related to nuclear enrichment as part of an agreement with three European nations aimed at heading off a confrontation over its nuclear program.
Soleimani said centrifuges and other equipment needed to produce enriched uranium had been covertly moved from a facility at Lavizan-Shian to a nearby site within Tehran's city limits.
The opposition group says Lavizan-Shian was home to the Center for Readiness and New Defense Technology and was part of the covert attempt to develop nuclear weapons.
The diplomat said the IAEA was looking into the possibility equipment was moved from Lavizan-Shian to an unknown location.
A report detailing IAEA investigations into Iran's nuclear programs prepared for the agency's Nov. 25 board meeting notes that Iran has failed to produce a trailer that apparently contained nuclear equipment at Lavizan-Shian for IAEA inspection.
The IAEA report also said Iran has "declined to provide a list of equipment used" at Lavizan-Shian, which the government says was home to research on how to reduce casualties in case of nuclear attack.
"The agency investigation of Lavizan ... is still open," said the diplomat. "They are still pursuing what happened to the equipment at Lavizan."
Refering to the new, secret location, Soleimani said that "as we speak, the site continues to produce (enriched) uranium" and said it "is not the only one that is being kept secret."
"There is a huge network devoted to this activity in Iran, and unfortunately the IAEA has hitherto understood the apparatus in only a small way," he said.
Soleimani's organization is the political wing of the People's Mujahedeen, or Mujahedeen Khalq, banned in the United States as a terrorist organization. While much of its information has not been confirmed, it was instrumental in 2002 in revealing Iran's enrichment program at Natanz.
Enrichment at low levels generates fuel for nuclear power, and Iran says that is its sole interest. But the United States and other countries suspect Iran wants to produce weapons-grade enriched uranium for nuclear warheads.
Lavizan-Shian was razed by the Iranian government earlier this year as IAEA inspectors prepared to visit it. The government says it was destroyed to make way for a park. But suspicions remain about the extent of the work done there, including the removal of top soil, which reduced the effectiveness of environmental samples taken by IAEA inspectors looking for unreported nuclear activity at the site.
The IAEA says it will start monitoring Iran's commitment to halt enrichment activities starting early next week.
The suspension pledge reduced U.S. hopes of having the board refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council for alleged violations of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
Under the agreement, Tehran is to suspend all uranium enrichment in return for European guarantees that Iran has the right to pursue a peaceful nuclear program. The suspension holds only until a comprehensive agreement is sealed, but European diplomats hope the freeze will turn into a long-term arrangement.
Iranian President Mohammad Khatami called the agreement a "great victory" but said Wednesday that Tehran won't respect its commitment if Europeans fail to support his country at the IAEA board meeting.
"If the IEAE board of governors adopts a correct decision, it will be a step in the direction that will give us more hope that our rights will be exercised," Khatami said.
"If we see that they don't keep their promise, it's natural that we won't fulfill our promise," he said.


since so many have picked on my spelling of late thought I'd use those who can write and type??

As neasseem says my rants are a danger??


YEA BABY GET SOME!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlsd Eyes to their Threat Amen

PS
Hear about the Locoas in Egypt??

Colon is not to be trusted. He said the same thing about Iraq. He openly lied at the UN showing some pathetic satellite photos that had nothing to do with reality. Remember... no WMDs.

Posted by: Naseem at November 18, 2004 09:05 AM


Not so Fast Baby??

October 09, 2004
No WMD Stockpiles in Iraq? Not Exactly ...
Now that everybody in the world knows that Saddam had no WMD, maybe this can stop being a political issue and we can actually look at the WMD that Saddam really had. From NewsMax, with thanks to Joyce:
Is it really true that Saddam Hussein had no "stockpiles" of weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invaded in March 2003?
Not exactly - at least not if one counts the 500 tons of uranium that the Iraqi dictator kept stored at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant.
The press hasn't made much of Saddam's 500-ton uranium stockpile, downplaying the story to such an extent that most Americans aren't even aware of it.
But it's been reported - albeit in a by-the-way fashion - by the New York Times and a handful of other media outlets. And one of Saddam's nuclear scientists, Jaffar Dhia Jaffar, admitted to the BBC earlier this year, "We had 500 tons of yellow cake [uranium] in Baghdad."
Surely 500 tons of anything qualifies as a "stockpile." And press reports going back more than a decade give no indication that weapons inspectors had any idea the Iraqi dictator had amassed such a staggering amount of nuke fuel until the U.S. invaded.
That's when the International Atomic Energy Agency was finally able to take a full inventory, and suddenly the 500-ton figure emerged.
Still, experts say Saddam's massive uranium stockpile was largely benign.
Largely? Well, except for the 1.8 tons of uranium that Saddam had begun to enrich. The U.S. Energy Department considered that stockpile so dangerous that it mounted an unprecedented airlift operation four months ago to remove the enriched uranium stash from al Tuwaitha.
But didn't most of that enrichment take place before the first Gulf War - with no indication whatsoever that Saddam was capable of proceeding any further toward his dream of acquiring the bomb?
That seems to be the consensus. But there's also disturbing evidence to the contrary.
David Kay, the former chief U.S. weapons inspector who was hailed by the press last year for pronouncing Iraq WMD-free, shared some interesting observations with Congress this past January about goings-on at al Tuwaitha in 2000 and 2001.
"[The Iraqis] started building new buildings, renovating it, hiring some new staff and bringing them together," Kay said. "And they ran a few physics experiments, re-ran experiments they'd actually run in the '80s."
"Fortunately, from my point of view," he added, "Operation Iraqi Freedom intervened and we don't know how or how fast that would have gone ahead. ... Given their history, it was certainly an emerging program that I would not have looked forward to their continuing to pursue."
Posted at October 9, 2004 02:47 AM

Now for those of you who don't trust this REDNECK LADY WHO LOVES HER SHORT SKIRTS THIS STORY IS A

JW STORY??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
Redneck Danger
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom, and Courage to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen

THIS IS WHAT NASEEM AND KEITH DIDN'T WANT TO STOP IN IRAQ:

http://massgraves.info/

Bookmark that, and send it to every Moonbat who needs a reminder of what life was like under Saddam.

Behind Colin Powell's statements:

from DEBKA-Net:

The covert uranium enrichment facility that opposition-in-exile group in Paris accused Tehran of hiding from the UN watchdog is located in Nour in the Lavizan district of northwest Tehran.

It is disguised as an affluent villa suburb covered in groves and gardens under which the underground site is active. Iran will use this site to conceal violation of its suspension pledge to European foreign ministers.

There are approximately 350 different sites that would have to be obliterated to bomb the mullahs' nuclear intentions back into the Stone Age. This would require days of bombing and would incur significant civilian casualties, as many of these sites just happen to be situated near residential areas (just like Saddam's MIGs just happened to get parked next to the Ziggurat of Ur during Gulf War I).
Despite its prodigious capabilities (God bless 'em) this is too big a job for the IAF. So, there are two viable options:
1) The US and/or the Coalition fire up the B-52s and go for a fly
2) We deal with the reality of a Nuclear Iran, and the prospect that these weapons will end up in the hands al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and God knows who else
Oh and then there's
3) Overthrowing the mullahs

Is there an army of ninjas out there somewhere?

nasseem has lied to eveyone she is in Iran???

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/17/162517.shtml
House Committee Questions Role of French Bank in U.N.-Saddam Scandal
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON – Lawmakers are questioning whether a French bank failed to comply with U.S. money-laundering laws, possibly helping Saddam Hussein manipulate the $60 billion U.N. oil-for-food program. The bank denies any wrongdoing.

In the latest in a series of congressional investigations of alleged corruption in the oil-for-food program, the House International Relations Committee was homing in on the role of the U.S. branch of BNP-Paribas, which handled most of the oil-for-food money. The humanitarian program, begun in 1996, allowed Iraq to trade oil for goods to help Iraqis get food, medicine and other necessities that became scarce under strict U.N. economic sanctions imposed after the Gulf War. It was credited with preventing widespread starvation.
Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill, said the panel found evidence that BNP in some cases improperly approved payments of oil-for-food funds to companies that weren't supposed to receive them. The bank may also have allowed payments to companies that were shipping to Iraq goods prohibited by international sanctions.
"There are indications that the bank may have been noncompliant in administering the oil-for-food program," Hyde said in remarks prepared for Wednesday's hearing. "If true, these possible banking lapses may have facilitated Saddam Hussein's manipulation and corruption of the program."
He said he was providing the committee's findings to the House Financial Services Committee, which oversees banking issues.
BNP officials say that the bank's role in the program was limited and that it had no control over how the money was spent. It acknowledges regulators had raised some issues on compliance with banking laws, but said none of these would have contributed to the oil-for-food abuses.
A series of investigations have found that Saddam, as Iraqi president, used oil smuggling, bribes and kickbacks to generate up to $21.3 billion or more in illegal revenue while under international sanctions from 1991-2003.
Though smuggling accounted for most of that money, the most sensational revelations have involved on the oil-for-food program, with allegations that Saddam and his aides bribed U.N. and foreign officials in an effort to break down the sanctions.
'Infuriating Greed' of France, Russia, Syria ...
"We all knew that Saddam was doing everything in his power to evade sanctions," the panel's top Democrat, Rep. Tom Lantos of California, said in prepared remarks. "But it is truly infuriating to discover the depth of the contempt and greed displayed by the governments of nations such as France, Russia and Syria who evidently jumped at the chance to participate in Saddam's crimes against the international community."
Hyde said the committee found evidence that Saddam used kickback revenues to make $25,000 payments to families of Palestinian suicide bombers who carried out attacks on Israel.
Lawmakers have clashed with U.N. officials over what documents would be provided to congressional investigators. The United Nations has raised concerns that congressional investigations could interfere with an inquiry by a committee led by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker. That committee was appointed by Secretary-General Kofi Annan in April to investigate corruption allegations.
On Tuesday, Volcker told leaders of a Senate subcommittee investigating oil-for-food that the committee won't hand over documents until its own investigative reports are issued starting in January.
Volcker also said he opposed letting U.N. staff or contractors testify before Congress because it could risk their cooperation with his investigation. Volcker was responding to a letter from Sens. Norm Coleman, R-Minn. and Carl Levin, D-Mich., respectively chairman and ranking Democrat on the Senate Governmental Affairs Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.
Coleman said in a statement Wednesday that Volcker assured him in a conversation Tuesday "that any efforts to thwart our investigation, or prevent my staff from interviewing witnesses, would come to an end."
Hyde warned that "if cooperation from those agencies and institutions involved in this program continues to be inadequate, then we will exercise such enforcement remedies as the law makes available to us. This inquiry is just beginning."


AND WHO IS DEFENDING IRAN AGAIN CHINA AND FRANCE??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/17/160755.shtml
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004 3:45 p.m. EST
Chirac Misses Saddam, Still Hates America
Even as new details emerge of France's illegal and immoral dealings with genocidal maniac Saddam Hussein, chief French quisling Jacques Chirac - or, as President Bush calls him, "Jackass" Chirac - is causing trouble by mourning the ouster of his business partner and taking more potshots at America.

"There's no doubt that there has been an increase in terrorism, and one of the origins of that has been the situation in Iraq," Chirac told BBC in an interview to be broadcast later today.
"To a certain extent Saddam Hussein's departure was a positive thing. But it also provoked reactions, such as the mobilization in a number of countries, of men and women of Islam, which has made the world more dangerous," he said, according to excerpts released by BBC.
Here's what Chirac said Tuesday to the London Times in a slap at Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair: "Well, Britain gave its support but I did not see much in return. I am not sure that it is in the nature of our American friends at the moment to return favors systematically."
He also said this: "I am not sure with America as it is these days that it would be easy for someone, even the British, to be an honest broker."
Oh, to be a fly on the wall the first time Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has a one-on-one confrontation with Chirac and pummels some sense and decency into him.
'Infuriating' French 'Contempt and Greed'
Our favorite quote of the day comes from a Democrat, Rep. Tom Lantos of California, who is seething as Congress probes the French-U.N.-Saddam oil-for-food scandal:
"We all knew that Saddam was doing everything in his power to evade sanctions. But it is truly infuriating to discover the depth of the contempt and greed displayed by the governments of nations such as France, Russia and Syria who evidently jumped at the chance to participate in Saddam's crimes against the international community."
The Associated Press reported today: "Despite Chirac's criticism of the war, officials in Paris say he wants stronger relations with Washington."
Riiiiiight. And John Kerry wants stronger relations with Swiftvets and POWs for Truth.


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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to the Threat and give them Courage to Stand and FIGHT Amen


PS
Remember that not all Fighters carry a gun but they Should!!

Posted by: waterdragon52 at November 18, 2004 12:17 PM


Soon we may have to get the cleaning supplies out you know the MOPs!!

And let us not forget that the head of the UNs EAIE[or what ever] is an Egyption and we have found trases of Uran and Plut there?

The mussis have been busy litte beavers while the greed of france was selling out the world?

Good thing they can't eat the black stuff??

Locus in Eygpt eating all the grains? Earthquake in Iran killing 30,000??

Oh! My!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat and give them Courage to Stand and Fight Amen

PS

Some French believe in Fighting for some things look at them killing mussis in the Ivory Coast ??

So if we plant cocoa beans in the Lands of Iraq maybe they will help fight the Islamic Terrorist just have to find what ever works??

Chiraqui's old boss, Valerie Giscard D'estang was best known for accepting large diamonds from the infamous dictator of the Central African Republic, Boucassa, I think his name was. For all their supposed belief in democracy, the French really do seem very fond of dictators, the more blood-thirsty the better, as long as they have oil or diamonds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4267133,00.html?=ticker
Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads in Iraq

Thursday July 1, 2004 10:01 PM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Polish troops have found two warheads in Iraq believed to contain a deadly nerve agent, but it is not clear what period the weapons came from, the Defense Ministry said Thursday.


Iraqi Nerve Gas, WMD Find Blows Away Pundits
Charles R. Smith
Monday, May 17, 2004
The discovery of an Iraqi artillery shell armed with nerve gas has the liberal community and mass media in a panic.
The 155mm nerve gas shell was rigged to kill U.S. troops but it failed. U.S. Brig. General Mark Kimmitt confirmed the discovery during a news conference in Baghdad.
Yet, the discovery of nerve gas was followed by a second revelation. A second shell, equipped with mustard gas was found two weeks ago.
The mustard gas shell identified by the special WMD inspection team in Iraq appears to be one of 550 declared by Saddam to U.N. inspectors during the early 1990s. These shells disappeared later in 2002 when Hans Blix asked to see them.


IAEA to Review Iran's Nuclear Program
NewsMax Wires
Monday, June 14, 2004
The International Atomic Energy Agency starts a week of executive meetings Monday, with Iran's nuclear program high on the agenda. Iran said Saturday it will not accept further limitations on the program, which it says is purely for peaceful purposes.
The IAEA Board of Governors is to debate a European draft resolution calling for Iran to halt its uranium-enrichment program and stop work on a heavy-water reactor that could produce bomb-grade plutonium


Iran Says Too Bad: It Will go Nuclear
NewsMax Wires
Monday, June 14, 2004
TEHRAN -- Toughening its stance in advance of a meeting of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, Iran yesterday said it would reject international restrictions on its nuclear program and challenged the world to accept Tehran as a member of the "nuclear club."
Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi rejected further outside influence on Tehran's nuclear ambitions two days before the International Atomic Energy Agency board of governors meets to discuss Iran's highly controversial program.
"We won't accept any new obligations," Kharrazi said. "Iran has a high technical capability and has to be recognized by the international community as a member of the nuclear club. This is an irreversible path."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38872

UN experts find evidence of WMD
By Edith M Lederer
10jun04

UN weapons experts have found 20 engines used in Iraq's banned Al Samoud 2 missiles in a Jordanian scrap yard, along with other equipment that could be used to produce weapons of mass destruction.

Acting chief UN inspector Demetrius Perricos disclosed the discovery today in a closed-door briefing to the UN Security Council.
According to the text of his presentation, Perricos said a similar missile engine had been found in a scrap yard in the Dutch port of Rotterdam, while a request had been made to Turkey, which has also received scrap metal from Iraq. The discoveries raise questions about the fate of material and equipment that could be used to produce biological and chemical weapons as well as banned long-range missiles.


Sarin Nerve Agent Bomb Explodes in Iraq
Monday May 17, 2004 4:01 PM
By CHRIS TORCHIA
Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. Two people were treated for ``minor exposure,'' but no serious injuries were reported.
``The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155-millimeter artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found,'' said Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief military spokesman in Iraq. ``The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a U.S. force convoy.
``A detonation occurred before the IED could be rendered inoperable. This produced a very small dispersal of agent,'' he said.
The Iraqi Survey Group is a U.S. organization whose task was to search for weapons of mass destruction after the ouster of Saddam Hussein in last year's invasion.
``The round was an old binary-type requiring the mixing of two chemical components in separate sections of the cell before the deadly agent is produced,'' Kimmitt said. ``The cell is designed to work after being fired from an artillery piece.''
He said the dispersal of the nerve agent from a device such as the homemade bomb is ``limited.''
``The former regime had declared all such rounds destroyed before the 1991 Gulf War,'' Kimmitt said. ``Two explosive ordinance team members were treated for minor exposure to nerve agent as a result of the partial detonation of the round.''
In 1995, Japan's Aum Shinrikyo cult unleashed sarin gas in Tokyo's subways, killing 12 people and sickening thousands. In February of this year, Japanese courts convicted the cult's former leader, Shoko Asahara, and sentence him to be executed.
Developed in the mid-1930s by Nazi scientists, a single drop of sarin can cause quick, agonizing choking death. There are no known instances of the Nazis actually using the gas.
Nerve gases work by inhibiting key enzymes in the nervous system, blocking their transmission. Small exposures can be treated with antidotes, if administered quickly.
Antidotes to nerve gases similar to sarin are so effective that top poison gas researchers predict they eventually will cease to be a war threat.
Tests Confirm Sarin Gas in Baghdad Bomb
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, May 25, 2004
WASHINGTON – Comprehensive testing has confirmed the presence of the chemical weapon sarin in the remains of a roadside bomb discovered this month in Baghdad, a defense official said Tuesday.
The determination, made by a laboratory in the United States that the official would not identify, verifies what earlier, less-thorough field tests had found: The bomb was made from an artillery shell designed to disperse the deadly nerve agent on the battlefield.
The origin of the shell remains unclear, and finding that out is a priority for the U.S. military, the defense official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
Some analysts worry the 155-millimeter artillery shell, found rigged as a bomb on May 15, might be part of a larger stockpile of Iraqi chemical weapons that insurgents can now use. But no more have turned up, and several military officials have said the shell might have been an older one that predated the 1991 Gulf War.
It likewise is not known whether the bombers knew they had a chemical weapon. Military officials have said the shell bore no labels to indicate it was anything except a normal explosive shell, the type used to make scores of roadside bombs in Iraq.
No one was injured in the shell's initial detonation, but two American soldiers who removed the round had symptoms of low-level nerve agent exposure, officials said last week.
The shell was a binary type, which has two chambers containing relatively safe chemicals. When the round is fired from an artillery gun, its rotation mixes the chemicals to create sarin, which is supposed to disperse when the shell strikes its target.
Because it was not fired from a gun but was detonated as a bomb, the initial explosion on May 15 dispersed the precursor chemicals, apparently mixing them in only small amounts, officials said then. In battle, such shells would have to be fired in great numbers to effect a large body of troops.
Iraq's first field-test of a binary-type shell containing sarin was in 1988, U.S. defense officials have said.
Saddam's government disclosed the testing and production only after Iraqi weapons chief Lt. Gen. Hussein Kamel al-Majid, Saddam's son-in-law, defected in 1995. Saddam's government never declared any sarin or shells filled with sarin remained.
Saddam's alleged stockpile of weapons of mass destruction was the Bush administration's chief stated reason for invading Iraq. U.S. weapons hunters have been unable to validate the prewar intelligence.
Some trace elements of mustard agent, an older type of chemical weapon, were detected in an artillery shell found in a Baghdad street this month, U.S. officials said previously. The shell was believed to be from one of Saddam's old stockpiles.

Radioactive Missiles Found In Iraq
Charles R. Smith
Tuesday, Mar. 9, 2004
U.S. Army troops operating at a former Iraqi air base recently made a startling discovery: Russian made missiles marked with radioactive warning signs.
Army bomb disposal troops confirmed using Geiger counters that the missiles are indeed radioactive.
The discovery is not, however, considered the long sought after "smoking gun" of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
The missiles appear to be part of a cache of weapons supplied to Iraq before the 1991 Gulf war.
The Russian made R-60, NATO code name AA-8 Aphid, air-to-air missiles are part of a huge stockpile of former Iraqi Air Force munitions uncovered in over a dozen concrete bunkers.
The Russian made missiles are over 6 feet long and each carries 1.6 kilograms or about 3.5 pounds of radioactive uranium wrapped around a high explosive warhead.
The uranium is not pure enough nor in large enough quantity to be a nuclear warhead but it is dangerous enough, as you can see from the label:
U.S. bomb experts noted the R-60 warheads are similar in design and content to a so-called "dirty bomb" that could contaminate a small area with radioactive materials.
DIFFICULT DISPOSAL
The discovery of the uranium laced R-60 missiles illustrates the difficulty that coalition troops have in trying to dispose of the billons of dollars of Iraqi weapons left behind after the second Gulf war.
The R-60 missiles cannot simply be destroyed since the uranium-laced warheads could pose a health hazard to coalition troops and local Iraqi civilians.
Army bomb disposal experts have gathered up all the R-60 missiles found at the site and quarantined them at a single, heavily guarded, location.
The R-60 has a very small 6-kilogram (13.2 pound) explosive warhead. The R-60 missiles supplied to Iraq by Russia contained uranium in their warheads to assist the small explosive charge in destroying targeted aircraft.
Russian weapons designers added the uranium belt to the missile in order to knock-out western aircraft using the dense metal as a way to punch through heavily armored sections of U.S. made jets.
U.S. troops also found a small number of advanced R-60M warheads at the site. The R-60M missiles are equipped with an advanced laser destruct system that detonates the warhead when it passes close to a target aircraft.
MORE RUSSIAN MISSILES
In addition, U.S. troops uncovered several large air-to-surface Kh-28 missiles, NATO code named AS-9 Kyle.
The Kh-28 is a Russian-made, anti-radar, air-to-surface missile with a top speed of over 2,000 miles an hour.
The missile is approximately 19.5 feet long, 17 inches in diameter, has a wingspan of 5.5 feet and weighs over 1,500 pounds. It carries a conventional 340-pound high-explosive warhead and has a range of 54 miles.
U.S weapons experts are also handling the Kh-28 missiles carefully but not because of its electronic radar-seeking warhead.
The Kh-28 is powered by a liquid-propellant propulsion system that consists of a fuel tank and an oxidizer tank. The oxidizer is a dangerous chemical known as "red fuming nitric acid" or IRFNA. Each missile carries approximately 20 gallons of IRFNA.
The oxidizer is considered to be highly dangerous and a possible carcinogen. U.S. Air Force disposal squads dismantled a Kh-28 found after the 1991 Gulf war using full Hazmat suits and special anti-chemical gear.
Again, U.S. forces are taking great care in the disposal of the missiles for fear of exposing coalition troops and local civilians to hazardous chemicals such as the oxidizer found in the Kh-28 missiles.


Iraqi Nerve Gas, WMD Find Blows Away Pundits
Charles R. Smith
Monday, May 17, 2004
The discovery of an Iraqi artillery shell armed with nerve gas has the liberal community and mass media in a panic.
The 155mm nerve gas shell was rigged to kill U.S. troops but it failed. U.S. Brig. General Mark Kimmitt confirmed the discovery during a news conference in Baghdad.
Yet, the discovery of nerve gas was followed by a second revelation. A second shell, equipped with mustard gas was found two weeks ago.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4267133,00.html?=ticker
Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads in Iraq

Thursday July 1, 2004 10:01 PM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Polish troops have found two warheads in Iraq believed to contain a deadly nerve agent, but it is not clear what period the weapons came from, the Defense Ministry said Thursday.
The two warheads were found in early June in a bunker in the area controlled by Polish forces, and they tested positive for cyclosarin, a substance many times stronger than sarin, the ministry said in a statement.

30 June 2004 - Chechen Fighters Linked to Al-Qaeda Held in Iraq
The Iraqi police and coalition soldiers in the Iraqi city of Al-Nasiriyah have detained two Chechens linked to Al-Qa'ida. The two were part of an armed group on its way to the area of a US Air Force base near the city, where they were to take part in operations, a source in the Iraqi security forces told the Iraqi newspaper Al-Sabah.
The Iraqi security forces have reliable information that some 20 Chechen militants are active within the Al-Qa'ida terrorist network in Iraq, the source said.


30 June 2004 - POSSIBLE TERRORIST SURVEILLANCE AT PENNSYLVANIA NUCLEAR POWER PLANT
The Northeast Intelligence Network verified that five men of Middle Eastern origin were detained near the Susquehanna Steam Electric nuclear power plant near Berwick PA on Tuesday, 29 June 2004. The men caught the attention of a toll booth attendant when they asked for directions to a fishing location near the power plant. The five men, all appearing in age to be between 35-50, reportedly stated that they were searching for a fishing location near the plant. When stopped by the Pennsylvania State Police about four miles from the plant, however, their vehicle (a late model van) contained camping equipment but no fishing gear. The FBI was notified, and two of the five men were reportedly detained by immigration authorities, but all were ultimately released.
Sources confirmed to the Northeast Intelligence Network and Steve Quayle that all US nuclear reactors have been placed on heightened alert, and authorities are aware of terrorists plans of attempting to disrupt power or cause a catastrophic event at various US power plants. There have been reports of infiltration of possible terrorists in key positions within our national infrastructure as well. This matter is being investigated and further information will be reported in an upcoming issue of the HQ INTEL-ALERT, a subscription based newsletter


U.S. Transferred Nearly 2 Tons of Uranium From Iraq
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, July 8, 2004
UNITED NATIONS – The United States didn't have authorization from the U.N. nuclear watchdog when it secretly shipped from Iraq uranium and highly radioactive material that could be used in so-called "dirty bombs," U.N. officials said Wednesday.
The nearly 2 tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1,000 highly radioactive items transferred from Iraq to the Untied States last month had been placed under seal by the International Atomic Energy Agency at the sprawling Tuwaitha nuclear complex, 12 miles south of Baghdad, the officials said. "The American authorities just informed us of their intention to remove the materials, but they never sought authorization from us," said Gustavo Zlauvinen, head of the IAEA's New York office.


Polish Army in Iraq 'Mortified' That 'Terrorists Were Looking for These Warheads'
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, July 2, 2004
WARSAW, Poland – Terrorists may have been close to obtaining munitions containing the deadly nerve agent cyclosarin that Polish soldiers recovered last month in Iraq, the head of Poland's military intelligence said Friday.

Polish troops had been searching for munitions as part of their regular mission in south-central Iraq when they were told by an informant in May that terrorists had made a bid to buy the chemical weapons, which date back to Saddam Hussein's war with Iran in the 1980s, Gen. Marek Dukaczewski told reporters in Warsaw. "We were mortified by the information that terrorists were looking for these warheads and offered $5,000 apiece," Dukaczewski said. "An attack with such weapons would be hard to imagine. All of our activity was accelerated at appropriating these warheads."

WHEN THE SPANISH RUN AWAY??

July 21, 2004
Nuclear arms reportedly found in Iraq
Relax, Mr. Kerry: nukes, but no WMD's. And seriously, why isn't this on the front page of the New York Times and the Washington Post? From UPI, with thanks to "Allah":
Baghdad, Iraq, Jul. 21 (UPI) -- Iraqi security reportedly discovered three missiles carrying nuclear heads concealed in a concrete trench northwest of Baghdad, official sources said Wednesday.
The official daily al-Sabah quoted the sources as saying the missiles were discovered in trenches near the city of Tikrit, the hometown of ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/20/213533.shtml
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Warner: New Report Backs Iraq WMD Claims
NewsMax Wires
Wednesday, July 21, 2004
WASHINGTON - An upcoming report will contain "a good deal of new information" backing up the Bush administration's contention that Saddam Hussein pursued weapons of mass destruction, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Va., said Tuesday.

The administration cited Saddam's hunger for such weapons as a main reason to invade Iraq last year. "I'm not suggesting dramatic discoveries," Warner told reporters, but "bits and pieces that Saddam Hussein was clearly defying" international restrictions, "and he and his government had a continuing interest in maintaining the potential to shift to production of various types of weapons of mass destruction in a short period of time."


http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040721-081009-2541r.htm
Official denies nuclear arms found in Iraq

Baghdad, Iraq, Jul. 21 (UPI) -- A U.S. military official Wednesday denied a report of Iraqi missiles carrying nuclear warheads being found in a concrete trench northwest of Baghdad.
The daily al-Sabah newspaper Wednesday had quoted sources as saying three missiles armed with nuclear warheads were discovered in a trench near the city of Tikrit, the hometown of ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
A U.S. military spokesman in Tikrit told United Press International that the report was untrue.
"Nothing's been found. The report is not factual," said Master Sgt. Robert Cowens, a spokesman for the 1st Infantry Division, based in Tikrit.
The newspaper reported the three missiles were discovered by chance when Iraqi security forces captured former Baath party official Khoder al-Douri who revealed during interrogation the location of the missiles saying they carried nuclear warheads.
Al-Sabah said that the missiles were discovered in a trench under six meters of concrete, designed to evade sophisticated sensors.
A spokesman with Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office told UPI that the report concerning the alleged missiles and warheads emerged "while gathering information for Saddam Hussein's tribunal" during the interrogation of a captured former official of Saddam's regime.


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-8-2004_pg4_12

Bush takes hardline against Iran
WASHINGTON: President George W Bush vowed on Monday to keep pressuring Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions, but he tempered his tough words with talk of diplomacy, countering Democrats who say he takes a go-it-alone approach on the world stage. “Iran must comply with the demands of the free world and that’s where we sit right now,” Bush said at an “Ask the President” campaign event in a Washington. “My attitude is that we’ve got to keep pressure on the government, and help others keep pressure on the government - so there’s going to be universal condemnation of illegal weapons activities.” Bush stressed US efforts to work with other nations to make sure the UN nuclear watchdog agency asks Iran “hard questions” about its weapons activities. “Foreign ministers of Germany, France and Britain have gone in as a group to send a message on behalf of the free world.” ap

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-8-2004_pg4_14
Iran sending arms to Iraqi Shias’
NAJAF: With fighting raging for a fifth day in Najaf, Iraq’s interim defense minister on Monday said weapons from neighboring Iran were being used by insurgents battling US and Iraqi forces in the Shia holy city of Najaf.

Defense Minister Hazem Shaalan made the comments during an interview broadcast on the Arab-language television network Al-Arabiya. “Iran has left another fingerprint in Najaf,” he said. “There are Iranian-made weapons that have been found in the hands of criminals in Najaf who received these weapons from across the Iranian border.”

Asked if Iran is still considered the “top enemy” of Iraq, he answered ambiguously. “From far and near, the facts that we have say that what has happened to the Iraqi people is done by the one who is considered the top enemy,” he said. “For the first time, the Iraqis see the bodies of children, the body parts of children, the bodies of women and the body parts of women on the street. Yes! This is the truth.”

Iran has previously denied interfering in Iraq. It says it does not allow fighters to cross into Iraq but it does not rule out that such people might cross the long border illegally. Since Thursday, US troops and Iraqi security forces have battled fighters in Najaf supporting militant Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. The US military says hundreds of militants were killed in fierce battles Thursday and Friday; the militiamen have put the number far lower. Asked about the allegations of Iranian support, al-Sadr said Monday: “Iran is a dear country and neighbor. It has all the freedom to act in its country. As for me, I am supported by God.” Najaf Gov. Adnan al-Zurufi said last week that 80 men who fought US forces at a sprawling cemetery in Najaf were Iranian.

Duelfer: 'A lot of material left Iraq and went to Syria'
Special to World Tribune.com
GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT.COM
Monday, October 18, 2004
Charles Duelfer told the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier this month he could not rule out Saddam's transfer of Iraqi missiles and weapons of mass destruction to Syria.
Duelfer, an adviser to the CIA, said at the Oct. 6 hearing that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.
"A lot of materials left Iraq and went to Syria," Duelfer said. "There was certainly a lot of traffic across the border points. We've got a lot of data to support that, including people discussing it. But whether in fact in any of these trucks there was WMD-related materials, I cannot say."
The Iraq Survey Group, headed by Duelfer, said Russia, Syria, Jordan and other arms suppliers were paid from Iraqi oil revenues.
A CIA report, authored by the Iraq Survey Group, identified Russia and Syria atop a list of 12 arms suppliers to Iraq until the U.S.-led war against Baghdad started in March 2003.
The report listed Russia and Syria above North Korea — regarded as the leading missile proliferator to the Middle East — as leading suppliers to Baghdad.
Jordan was the third largest supplier of weapons to Iraq.

NOW NASSEEM WHAT WAS IT YOU WERE SAYING??


WASHINGTON[SETTALT] MULSUM CONVERTS ARRESTED WITH MANUALS ON URBAN WARFARE HOW TO TRAIN CHILDREN?? ARRESTED AT THEIR BARBER SHOP?
but they say with all the guns and all the paper work it is not terrorism related because they were mulsum converts???

BOY THAT IS A WET NOODEL??

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Ever notice how the mere mention of Halabja and Hillah sends the trolls scattering away?
"The LIGHT!! IT BURNS!!!"

Naseem

The claim that 100 000 civilians have died since the current iraqi war started is a load of garbage. The people who did the study even said it was very likely wildly innaccurate. And no Naseem, the number of dead is not way over 100 000 either.

In the link below Andrew Bolt discusses the massive innacurracies and flaws in the study you seem so fond of promoting for what seems like islamist ends.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,11407979%255E25717,00.html

wow when did plastic explosives become WMD!
you guys are pitiful just accept it you where lied too by your govt. because they need a justification for the war.

Earth to riboflavin: the Coalition invaded Iraq for a variety of reasons. Your lame attempt at singularizing the reasons for removing Saddam from power don't change this fact. Furthermore, the results of the last Presidential election indicate that the American people supported the President's decision, regardless of whether WMDs are discovered in Iraq or not.
Why? This is why:
http://massgraves.info/
The American people undertand that Saddam was a monster - he gassed and murdered thousands of Iraqis, invaded the territories of his neighbors, repeatedly violated the terms of the Gulf War cease-fire and harbored terrorists. That's good enough - the WMDs not turning up is a non-issue with most people - except people like you who are fixated on this to further your own political agenda.

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