Jihadist threat engulfs Thailand

Yes, we know what those murdering swine[sorry, didn't mean to insult pigs] and rest of Jihadis intend for this region. What a good thing Australia is getting the latest weaponry which will despatch Rizieq & the Rest of 'em to their Satanic Allah!

An Islamic Thailand, I can't think of much that would be sadder. These 'defenders of Islam' people thrive on their own misery and when they see some other culture being basically happy and successful it really pisses them off. They then proceed to do all within their power to make the happy, successful people just as miserable as they are. Even in Muslim Indonesia, it is the secular Chinese who really create the success of the country. The Islamists are much more content to wallow in their own misery and complain that the small minority of non-Islamics are the root of all their problems. They ought to try working hard in this life for a little happiness instead of drowning in misery and hoping for the big pay-off after they die.

After 9/11 the American media tried to argue that Islam itself was not the problem. Only certain middle-eastern sects of Islam were "troubled". Journalists pointed to the "peaceful strain" of Islam in Southeastern Asia as evidence that Muslims could live side-by-side with their Christian/Buddhist/Secular neighbors indefinitely.

Then came the bombing in Bali.

And now the violence in Thailand.

So much for that idea.

I remember an Islamic Org. posting a notice on 9/11 that Americans shouldn't let racism and bigotry get the best of them and blame the attack
on Muslims witout waiting for the facts to come out.

Well when the facts did come out they still denied Islam had anything to do with it and the hijackers weren't "True" Muslims,that's right folks,CAIR and their ilk didn't denounce the terrorists they just claimed they weren't "True"
Muslims. This must have given great comfort to the thousands that were cremated against their will by the guy screaming "Allah'a akbar" or those that jumped to their death and exploded when they hit the sidewalks at about 120 MPH.

Just check out the recent tripe from the Mosques in Holland,Imam's are more consumed by the fear of "Backlash" from the Van Gogh murder
by those children of Allah. Lets forget all the threats by Islamists and the past murders of infidels in Europe,the real issue is making sure Muslims don't get their feelings hurt because this will trigger more murders that only further the misperception about Islams not being a faith of peace and tolerance.

Ala Sux tells it true. Are you and your family safe? Have you received threats from the peace lovers?

tger:

Yes,Canadians have been put on the list for targets by Al-Qaeda,and one Muslim that was the millenium bomber got caught when trying to blow up the LAX Airport,he told Police after he was arrested
that he attended a Mosque in Montreal that raised money for middleEast terrorists and that his "Plan-B" was to be a suicide bomber in Canada
by getting his truck drivers permit and take a fully loaded fuel truck into a heavy populated
area after religious services were over and blow up the truck hoping to kill about 5000 non-Muslims.
The President of a Canadian Islamic group stated on TV that all Israelis over 18 are valid targets for murder by suicide bombers,that included Israelis in Canada,the riot at Concordia U by Muslims was a wake-up call to screen foreign students that really want access to Israelis to kill them. Several Universities have pro-Muslim groups the use Palestine to justify spitting on Jewish students and yelling bigoted slurs which are against the Quran and Islamic faith.
Also in Montreal, a Muslims male hated the way females in Canada can get educated and make more money then some men and in turn take job away from
the people that are to be the head of the family according to the Quran,he barged into a school that was holding a engineering class with mostly young girl and unloaded his rifle murdering about
17 of them and wounding several others as well a male students that were just as guilty for not opposing the females in that course.
December 6th is recongnized as a National day for mourning these deaths by a Muslim psychopath,all I have claimed is from factaul police reports and media videos and the mans suicide letter did blame females for the worlds deteriation of values and suffering to males.

Your question marks appear to be that of someone trying to discredit me as making emotional rants,a Surgeon doesn't need to have a kidney transplant just to understand the pain and risks involved for the person going through it.
I don't need to have a bodyparts blown off by a jihadist to know the dangers and psychological
trauma in inflicts on those victims of terrorism.Many callers to radio shows that profess to speak as a Muslim say that all people supporting Israel deserve to die and just last night a caller said Van Gogh was killed for his disrespect to Muslims and attack on Islam. People have even said that they would be suicide bomber in Canada if Islamic leader ordered them to do it to defend islam,this is not me with the paranoia because recently a Muslims was seen filming Subway station and tall structures right about the time of Spains attack and Englands threats against the Underground(subway).

Give you head a shake,there are Muslims out there that want me dead and your denial will only get me kill and show you have little interest for non-Muslim deaths.

Ala~ I think tger was being........ *sighs* I wish I were Not awake at the moment- sarcastic? about the 'religion of peace.'

argh... it will be Tuesday until I feel right again...

Until we can speak safely,
of mo and islam,
moslems, the sharia and the qu'oran,
palestinians and other arabs,
without risking assault or death,
we are in danger.

With islam in ascendancy in Canada,
it's a little like living in syria or cuba,
you dare not speak your thoughts in public,
or to strangers.

The newsmedia, save for the National Post, have been silenced.

There is no public discussion of these immense challenges to our society and the world.

Ummm, your headline speaks of jihad engulfing Thailand, but Jakarta, Bali, and the people mentioned are all in Indonesia. I'm a little confused.

Ala, I am on your side. I was really and truly concerned for your safety. In light of Theo Van Gogh (pbuh) , this was not merely a rhetorical concern. Sorry you missed the sarcasm on the religion of peace bit. What hacks me off as much as anything is the way they try to intimidate any one who actually analyzes the tenets of their religion. Keep it up and keep the passion in your writing. You do tell it true, I wasn't joking about that.

Hmmmm. So the global jihad will beome our WWIII huh? The sooner it happens the lesser the pain involved and quicker the outcome. I'm personally confident the free world will win - mainly because failure will not be an option. And if and when we decide to get into full mobilization mode - decide to dump our values of humanism and fairplay and tolerance in the prosecution of this open war- it will be really, really bad for the jihadis.

Compare the America/Britain, Iraq/Britain, and similar struggles for independence and autonomous rule with the current emerging conflict in jihadist Islam:

1) Is the solution simply to isolate the jihadist ideology regionally from the "free world"? If the answer is "yes", the jihadist conflict in Thailand, (which already has a large indigenous muslim population as does the Phillipines) is a regional matter.

2) What should be the role of the U.S. in regional conflicts, and what are the geo-political ramifications of global engagement?

Ala Sux, I read your comments about the rampage of the deranged man that killed 17 or more people in the engineering class. This was indeed a tragedy.

I also read your comments about the president of an islamic canadanian organization (most likely palestinian) saying that all israeli males over 18 are legitimate targets in the Palestinian conflict. Please provide the name of the islamic organization if you can recall it.

Also, I refer you to the Colombine massacres, where 3 or 4 average white American children committed randomly killed fellow students based on a grudge. The Colombine murders have not been identified as psychopathic, though clearly sociopathic in their behavior as was your canadian gunmen.

My question to you is what makes deranged, armed muslim more dangerous in your mind than any other deranged, armed person, say, such as Timothy McVeigh, neo-nazis or christian extremists?

GUYS:

STOP ENGAGING THE MUSLIM TROLL ("hatshepsut"). If it were truly here to merely "observe" it could do that aplenty without serving as an agent provocateur. Don't encourage it, and it will go the way of all the other failed posers . . .

CGW, I just can't help myself.

It is very simple hatspesput.

I use the name Uhller Isshaytan which means Allah Is Shaytan. Because this Allah is evil, cruel and sadisitic creature to write such a bloodthirsty book.

These others (non-islamic) that you mention are far and few between. There aren't 1.5 billion of them.

And we don't hear of Christian Extremists blowing up bombs all over the place or decapitating people on a daily basis. But of muslims we do.

That you can only come up with Timothy Mcveigh shows the bankruptcy of your argument. Ok, there is also Baruch Goldstein. For these, we have to wait for at least a decade or more to occur.

In the mean time, there are crazy islamic murders happening in Kashmir, Pakistanis are bombing each others mosques (religion of peace) and Algiers is witnessing attrocities every day.Then there is the Middle East, Beslan, Bali. Six years ago we had all the riots where the ethnic Chinese population was raped, looted and massacred.

And in Sudan.....there was no mention of any Timothy Mcveighs there.

There are still some peaceful places in the world.

But they don't have a muslim population.

On the other hand, there is not one place of Islamic majority or of a sizable islamic minority, where there is harmony and peace.

God forgive you Isshaytun, and may God have mercy on you.

The word "Allah" in arabic is the word ascribed to God, the Creator. Now, in your statement you said that "Allah" is "Satan", sir.

That unfortunately is your reality, your perception, and I pity the bankruptcy of your view.

Sir, I will not take up space on this board slinging mud by listing the countless thousands of rapists, murderers and sadistic killers who consider themselves to be christian. That would not be fair to good and decent christian people. So I leave you with your own incrimination and broad-sweeping analogies, and I invite you to research the veracity of your claims. You may be surprised by what you find.

Again, may God (by whatever name you choose) forgive you (that is my mercy to you.. ponder the possibilities).

Questions that I would sincerely appreciate if some of you would kindly answer:

In the past 6 months:

1) I have come in contact with arabs or muslims in my workplace, place of worship, or neighborhood.
(y / n)

2) engaged muslims or arabs in a face to face dialogue about Islam.

3) attended a lecture at a church which discussed Islam

4) attended an interfaith discussion about Islam and other religions

5) watched a television documentary about Islam

6) physically attended a lecture or service at a local mosque

7) physically attended a lecture or service at a local synagogue

8) attended a lecture at a local college or university about Islam

9) come in contact with arabs or muslims in the course of my daily affairs

10) befriended at least one arab or muslim in the course of my daily affairs

Thank you for your comments.

If you do not want to post your answers to the 10 survey questions here, please email them to me at info@amwanet.org

All replies will be answered. These survey questions will be posted in other similar forums and web logs.

Thank you for your participation.

Anyone who chooses to answer this moron, remember:

He is trying to classify what kind of Hate you suffer from. Which is an Outright LIE about YOU.

He is totally bogus. Why do you keep bothering with him? So he can make a report to post on islamic hate sites around the world?

Don't let this bastard get away with an attempt to discredit. Do not let him do what the Left will be pleased to have him do! Think!

Whenever Muslims try to defend themselves but have no argument they always try to counter attack. It is like the rapist excusing himself by saying "but others have done the same."

Never do they give a direct and sound answer.

But others don't do these things in the name of Allah and quoting their religious texts. They may have done in centuries past. But the world has moved on. Except for Islam which wants to drag us back into the past.

Again I ask where is there a place with a large muslim population where peace, tolerance and harmony reign? Not in India, Not in Kashmir, Not in Indonesia, Not in all muslim Algeria, Not in Sudan, Not in Nigeria, Not in the Netherlands, Not in Sydney of the rapist gangs and the crime gangs with a racist slant against "white aussie sluts" etc. etc.

To list the RECENT attrocities COMMMITED BY Christians, Hindus, Bhuddists, Jews all combined would give hateshepshut an unfair advantage because it would be impossible to list all the atttrocities committed in the name of Islam as it would take several generations to complete the task.

I have read the Koran. And I will be quite open about it. It is a book of hate incitement.

I am open about the fact that I hate the Taliban.

But I aggree with the Taliban in their interpretation of the Koran. They were/are doing exactly as the Koran tells them to do.

Which is why I hate the Koran.

There is a big difference in the case of the Bible, because Muslims always come up with in argument, the violent parts of the Bible.

The big difference is that Christians and Jews are mostly not accepting the Bible word for word. They can still be Christians and Jews without being a slave to everything contained in it.

They are not apostates, if they question or reject parts of it, and are free to be apostates without a death sentence hanging over their heads.

So if the Koran tells its believers to slay the infidel, and its ok to be a slaveowner, then even a 'moderate' muslim must accept this to be the true word of Allah. - An Allah that condones slavery. A vain Allah that will torture eternally anyone who doubts in his existence.

What sort of conceited and cruel being is that?

And Muhammed was a cruel and vicious murderer and child molesting pedophile.

Let whoever wants, pass this all onto their message boards, because it is the truth.

Facts, Isshaytun,

FACT: The law of the times during the time of Muhammad placed no restriction on the number of wives a man could take, even to the degree of marrying both mother and daughter... this is fact. Islam restricted that number to 4 maximum and placed criteria on which women could be married to the same man (not mother and daughter)

FACT: The lawful age for betrothal (not intercourse) in other faiths of the day was 3. Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of 5 or 6 and the marriage was consummated according to scholars between the age of 11 and 16. Some girls become pubescent at early as 8. According to the law of the TIMES, not our current law which legalizes sodomy, Muhammad was NOT a pedophile.

FACT: Aisha was the only one of Muhammad's 11 wives that was a VIRGIN. Most of his wives were widowed women that no one would marry and divorcees.

FACT: The concept of polygyny in Islam is not based on sex, it is based on men providing for and taking care of women in their charge. This is why most men have one and only one wife.

FACT: Muhammad was allowed 11 wives. No other muslim was allowed this provision.

FACT: The practice of slave captives as wives, 'amaa, is a practice that predated Islam and like other forms of slavery was tolerated. It became closely regulated after Islam as part of the war booty, female captives would be remanded as 'amaa, lower wives with lower status, but not as beast of the field.

FACT: The taking of 'amaa has since been banned publically in all islamic countries, including Saudia, and is practiced only in the most backwards of places.

The most famous 'amaa (consort), Roxelana, was the wife of Sulaiman the Maginificient, the 16th century Ottomon regent. She wielded so much power in the harram of Sulaiman that he married her and made her his queen (consider her "slavery" in context with that of Sally Heming) She beget him two sons, through whom she continued to wield enormous influence over the kingdom, some saying driving Sulaiman to insane fits of paranoia in fear of being murdered by them, leading to the decline of the empire.

FACT: The bible did not abolish slavery. Rather different interpretations of the bible, which is the word of God, were used to condone slavery for 400 years. Different interpretations of the bible claim that non-whites must be servants to whites because they are the descendents of Ham, who laughed at the genitals of his drunken, naked father.

FACT: Only in the quran do you see God rewarding the one who frees a slave. This is an incentive to abolish slavery. Is there such an injuction in the bible?

What kind of cruel God tolerates slavery? A merciful and forgiving God who is waiting on HUMANITY to get it right and act as brothers.

The quran, not the english Koran, is a book that must be read in context, not written in the same tense or verse as the bible. This is the source of much confusion for non-muslims.

I have another question.

Why is everyone unfairly maligning Islam?

Is it because we are jealous of their successful societies where freedom, peace and prosperity reign?

Or is it due to the Zionists and their evil conspiracies perhaps, that are pulling the wool over our eyes and giving a bad impression of Islam and its adherants?

Leading Muslims like the Saudi Royal are telling us such things. The top clerics like the Indonesian Bashir is telling us that Jews and Americans are responsible for Bali. And for 911, for which the recent tape of OBL also claimed responsibility.

And yet the Bali bombers (none of them Jews or Americans?) admitted in court that they did it because of the Koran. Which makes Bashir a liar.Or were the Bali bombers CIA agents perhaps?

So they want to see what sort of hate we have, it is the hate of blatant lying and stupid conspiracy theories, as well as terrorism.

I look at many Islamic web sites. A proffessor of psychiatry tells that blowing himself up is a sweet pleasure for a martyr. Not that he has done it himself. But he knows it "as a professional psychiatrist."

Put this on an Islamic web site. They may learn something of benefit.

Asshaytun, Iblis,

It is known that it is entirely possible that the Bali bombers could both admit to doing what they believe was commanded by the Koran, just as white supremacy groups burned crucifixs in the yards of blacks to instill terror. This does not mean Bashir is a liar. He is one cleric, he is not God, and does not control these people like some kind of svengali.

Bashir's reality may be that he believes or has reason to believe the Americans were involved in the bombing just as you believe Allah is Satan. If Allah is not Satan, does that then make you a liar?

And if Allah created Satan, how could Allah be Satan. And are you a lesser shaytun?

As-shaytun (so you don't think I am cursing you), could you answer the survey questions? Your answers will intrigue me, or are you afraid?

I post to no islamic hate sites.. wouldn't know where such sites are found. Perhaps Gary does.

I believe most such sites have long since been removed from the internet. Perhaps Gary knows others.

I ask these survey questions to support research I am doing in this forum and others about neo-fascism as its related socio-psychosis.

I'm looking to see what sociopathology lies beneath the surface for those who hate for the sake of hatred, and those who hate based on perception of other groups, but are open to new information. I call these groups for the purpose of this survey, "inducers", inductive reasoners, and "deducers" deductive reasoners.

The hypothesis is that deductive reasoners will be receptive and open to new information, facts, and ideas as they emerge. Inductive reasoners have already pasted the analysis stage and formulated social theory, so they are not open to new information as it may emerge.

In the ranking of deductive reasoners, the "deducers" at the type of the hierarchy should be the most open-minded reasoners, able to adjust perceptions based on new facts, and at the bottom, those more affected by extraneous information, such as cohort biases.

Here are the questions.

Questions that I would sincerely appreciate if some of you would kindly answer:

In the past 6 months:

1) I have come in contact with arabs or muslims in my workplace, place of worship, or neighborhood.
(y / n)

2) engaged muslims or arabs in a face to face dialogue about Islam.

3) attended a lecture at a church which discussed Islam

4) attended an interfaith discussion about Islam and other religions

5) watched a television documentary about Islam

6) physically attended a lecture or service at a local mosque

7) physically attended a lecture or service at a local synagogue

8) attended a lecture at a local college or university about Islam

9) come in contact with arabs or muslims in the course of my daily affairs

10) befriended at least one arab or muslim in the course of my daily affairs

Thank you for your comments.

If you do not want to post your answers to the 10 survey questions here, please email them to me at info@amwanet.org

All replies will be answered. These survey questions will be posted in other similar forums and web logs.

Thank you for your participation.

"FACT: Only in the quran do you see God rewarding the one who frees a slave. This is an incentive to abolish slavery. Is there such an injuction in the bible?"

This is the most ridiculous anwer. I have seen it before several times.

And what has the Bible got to do with it?
The Bible was written by humans. But you are using this as distraction. The Koran is the word of Allah and therefore should be beyond reproach.

That he condones this butcher and pedophile Muhammed and his gang of rapists does not put him in a very good light.

Allah if he is Wise, should have better morals.

Custom or not custom of the day, this is no excuse. Allah is supposed to be all wise. He should have said "slavery is forbidden!!"

It was the CUSTOM TO WORSHIP OTHER GODS. But Allah did not condone that. But the raping of women as war booty was permitted.

To encourage and reward releasing of slaves is a very weak act of an all powerful Allah that was strict with other things he disproved of.

What if a judge telling a rapist who is holding a girl as a sex slave in his basement that he will be rewarded if he frees the girl?

That is what this fake Allah is doing.

That Muhammed the pedophile could make special rules indicates that he made them up himself but claimed that Allah told him.

And don't waste your time with trying to slander the Bible for distraction, as I don't believe in it anyway. But I don't feel threatened that Christians are going to want to kill me because I don't believe in it.

Whatever the custom in those days, Allah should know better, and his Koran is supposed to be true for eternity and all times.

So he should have made strict rules as to this filthy abuse of young girls.

The fact that you admit it as being condoned by Allah is all the more shocking.

As for Bashir, I saw him interviewed. It is not what he believed because he said many contradictory things that would indicate he was either a complete imecile or a liar.

But he is only one example out of many.

Again you are using the weak distracting argument of bringing in White Supremacists. There are no church services where mainstream Christians go to listen to the priest preach hatred.

This is not what the world is plagued with. Everywhere, it is Muslims. And after each attrocity there is a spate of either public celebration by muslims, or denial and conspicy theories of the silliest kind.

Thelast 30 years has not had a spate of plane hijackings by white supremacists. Nor Buddhists.

Idi Amin the butcher must have been a good muslime because he was welcomed into Saudi Arabia.

President Habibie of Indonesia said about the ethnic Chinese after the gang rapes and murders "That those chinese that contributed to the country were not touched".

The young girls raped and killed were somehow to blame?
Sounds like some sort of Hitler to me.

When I say that Allah is Satan, it means that he is as evil and cruel as Satan. In fact more so. Who needs a Satan when we have Allah?

As for the Koran, it is the most jumbled up nonsensical piece of hate literature.

But I don't really believe in either Satan or Allah. Allah is a figment of Muhammed's imagination, and Satan is copied from the Bible.

Please use your commone sense and stop believing all this rubbish and join the human race of this century.

God law is absolute, but man's law has a tendency to circumvent God's law. I can think of many examples, and so can you..

God gave you a brain, he will not think for you and move your limbs. That's called "free will". You oscilate between calling God a tyrannt and wanting God to be a tyrannt.

There is no stipulation itself in the quran about the age of marriage for male or female. Therefore, you argument cannot be presented in the context of what's in the quran.

The body of islamic law itself has changed throughout time, so what was legal in 720 may not be legal today. Same applies in my civilizations. You call marriage which was legal during the time "the filthy abuse of young girls". Do you believe then that Jesus made a mistake by not abolishing this practice during his time? What about Moses with the torah? Both came before Muhammad, and this practice prevailed before Muhammad (marrying young girls).

So, if it was a filthy act for Muhammad, though legal according to the times, wouldn't it have been a filthy act in the time of Jesus and Moses? And what does the bible say about the age of marriage and who may be married to whom?

And, your paranoid belief that someone wants to kill you because you don't believe in the quran is not based in reason, just in your perceived reality. You stand an equal chance of being killed for insulting someone's mother as you do for insulting Muhammad and the quran. It is not a religious mandate.

As-Shaytun, was Bashir's interview in English or through an interpretor with subtitles? Does Bashir even speak english?

"According to the law of the TIMES, not our current law which legalizes sodomy, Muhammad was NOT a pedophile."

Laws of WHAT times???

According to a law of and for pedophiles, Muhammed was not a pedophile?

Again Whose laws? Is Allah taking advice from pedophiles when writing the Koran?

Surely the Wise Allah should know better! And his laws should superede those of man's laws.
This is a muslim belief.

Again we are getting the fact that just because other pedophiles do the same thing this makes a pedophie 'not a pedophile'?

If the koran is an eternal truth, then people who abuse young children are pedophiles and those that did the same in Muhammeds time were also pedophiles.

If slavery was acceptable in Muhammeds time, then it must be acceptable today according to the eternal truth of the koran.

By the way, America got rid of slavery itself. Christians went on an anti- slavery crusade.

The barbarians of the Barbery coast were forced to an end of slavery by Europeans and Americans.

Has Allah changed his attitudes? Is that possible?

Have his morals changed as the morals of Most humans have changed over the centuries?

To any and all posters at Jihad Watch:

Not that you asked, but I don't think you or anyone else should answer this person "Hatshepsut." To do so is to allow him or her to put you on trial, thus shifting the focus away from the global jihad.

Another Muslim, Chan'ad Bahraini, recently asked me all sorts of questions about where I have been in the Middle East, what languages I speak, etc. I suspected that any answer I gave him, he would use for his own purposes, so I declined to answer (whereupon, of course, he used that). But it is a digression: this site, and the anti-jihad effort in general, is not about me. It is not based on where I have been, or what I know or don't know. It is meant to draw attention to the manifest activity of Islamic jihadists, and the ways they use Islamic texts to justify themselves and recruit. Those activities are a fact regardless of who I am.

The moral of the story: don't let attention be diverted away from the jihad.

There have been occasionally some posters here who are over the top, and I have consistently stated that those who call for genocide, nuking Mecca, etc., are not welcome here. However,
"Hatshepsut" is a deluded individual who believes that to resist violent jihad is racism (despite the ideological character of the conflict, transcending all races), that Jews perpetrated 9/11 (despite Osama's avowal that he did it), and that apparently any anti-jihad sentiment is "hate" (despite the fact that it is not Western non-Muslims who are perpetrating religious violence around the globe).

Just don't answer. This site is not about you and how many Muslims you had lunch with. This site is about the global jihad, which continues despite "Hatshepsut's" efforts to divert attention away from it.

Cordially,
Robert Spencer

***"And, your paranoid belief that someone wants to kill you because you don't believe in the quran is not based in reason, just in your perceived reality. You stand an equal chance of being killed for insulting someone's mother as you do for insulting Muhammad and the quran. It is not a religious mandate."****

Van Gogh should not have been paranoid? And several politicians have had to take on body guards, also a radio presenter.

Apostasy gets the death sentence in Saudi Arabia?
Not for insulting Muhammed but for disbelief or conversion to another religion.

And how often do I have to repeat that don't give me your Bible arguments they are no excuse and I don't believe in it anyway.

The Bible was written by men.....not by Allah. Is that true or not? Think carefully before answering.

Yes, in those times perhaps all other men were just as barbaric as the muslims.

But the rest of the world has evolved, and it is only the Muslims that want to preserve the barbarity of those times. So go ahead and show equivalence in the Bible. But times have changed.
And people have changed.

Allah should not have permitted this. He was supposed to have sent Muhammed to fix any errors in the Bible. And really, just because there was no regulations for murder or rape and pedophilia.

So now you are relying on a pure legal defense. And I thought Islam was supposed to be based on morality. Fine morality that is.

Allah is supposed to have given man a perfectly clear manual for living a decent life. If he did not clearly forbid rape of captives, the slaughter of male prisoners, and pedophilia, then he has failed with his koran.

Besides the pedophilia and slavery, Muhammed was also a bloodthirsty murderer, not a man of peace.

Because Muhammed is an alleged prophet, when he commits barbaric crimes they are not crimes in the eyes of muslims.

He is supposed to be a role model for all muslims.

Had some fun last night dancing and drinking and eating Boy was fun!!!

seams that 25 clerics in Sauidi Arabi said today that this is a holy war??
and to kill westerns are to be done?? had to buy a few more toys Freedom is great and this is what they want to take away from you......

here is what mulsums believe?

The truth about what Mulsums believe??
Read and learn about the peace they bring to your door??

TORTURE:
Qur’an 5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides...their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly.”

YEA HEARD TODAY THAT THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST KILLED IRAQIS POLICE WITH THEIR HANDS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACK NOTHING BUT YELLOW COWARS THE MONSTERS ISLAMIC TERRORIST!!

Qur’an 9:5 “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

WE ARE WISE TO YOUR LIES!!

Qur’an 5:37 “The [Christian] disbelievers will long to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out there from; and theirs will be an enduring torture.”

GOOD THING WE BELIVE IN FIGHTING BACK AND HAVE MADE SOME PRETTY NEAT TOYS??

Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

AMERICANS JUST SHOWED WE ARE NOT AFRAID WE HAVE THE 2ND ADD AND HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR THE STORM AND WILL WIN THIS FIGHT AND WILL NOT BACK DOWN LIKE OUR GRANDPARENTS DESTORYED THE ENEMY IN WW2 WE WILL ALSO!!

THIEVERY & SLAVERY:
Qur’an 8:1 “They ask you about the benefits of capturing the spoils of war. Tell them: ‘The benefits belong to Allah and to His Messenger.’”

YOUR BOOK TELLS US WE CAN HAVE YOUR LANDS IF WE WANT THEM BECAUSE WE WON AND HAVE KICKED THE ASS OF saddam[yellow coward found in a hole don't shoot i'm a coward] YESS WE OWN IT ALL!!

Qur’an 9:103 “Take alms out of their property in order to cleanse and purify them, and invoke Allah for them; surely this is a relief for them.”

WHO IS THE WINNER NOT THE ubl[yellow coward who runs away]

Tabari IX:31/Ishaq:594 “‘Muhammad, divide the spoil and booty of camels and cattle among us.’ They forced the Prophet up against a tree, and his robe was torn from him. Muhammad cried, ‘Give me back my robe. If there had been more sheep I would have given you some. You have not found me to be niggardly, cowardly or false.”

SPEAKS FOR IT'S SELF!!

Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”

FOOL ME ONECE SHAME ON YOU FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME?? WE AINT HUNTING WITH YOUR DOG ANY MORE WE HAVE BROUGHT OUR OWN!!

Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?”
Qur’an 9:8 “How (can there be such a treaty), seeing that they get an advantage, the upper hand over you? They do not pay you respect, or honor you or the ties of kinship or covenant. With (good words from) their mouths they entice you [out negotiate you], but their hearts are averse to you.”

YEA WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIERS AND MUDERS OF CHILDREN!! WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPEN IN RUSSIA AND SAID THIS WILL STOP ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THIS GAME IS OVER!!!

Qur’an 8:61 “But if the enemy inclines toward peace, do you (also) incline to peace, and trust in Allah. Should they intend to deceive or cheat you, verily Allah suffices: He strengthened you with His aid and with Believers.” [The small print is real important. “Should they intend to deceive or cheat” is an open invitation to invoke 8:57 to 60. The first to interpret this surah said:]

YOU HAVE SAID YOU WANT WAR ALL OVER THE WORLD SO WAR IS WHAT YOU WILL GET AND YOU WILL NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME??

Qur’an 4:91 “You will find others who, while wishing to live in peace and being safe from you to gain the confidence of their people; thrown back to mischief headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and offer you peace besides restraining their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear sanction and authority.” [So if you wish to live in peace, but are perceived as being mischievous (i.e., non-Muslim), Allah has given his Jihad warriors “a clear sanction and authority to seize and kill” you.]

READ AND KNOW WHAT THE MULSUMS ARE DOING THEN DENING IT IS THEIR FAITH AGAIN THEY LIE TO YOU!! DON'T BE A SUCKER??

Tabari VII:7 “The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six.”

Mahammad forced himself on her. This is how it happened:

Tabari IX:131 “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old.”

Muhammad raped a baby. I guess you are so proud of worshiping a pig like that, huh Arxos? lets not forgt, muhammad used the moon to measure seasons, so she was not nine yet, only 8 years old.

Ishaq:515 “When the people of Fadak heard what had happened, they sent word to the Messenger, asking him to banish them and spare their lives, saying they too would leave him their property. When the people of Khaybar surrendered on these conditions, the survivors asked Muhammad to employ them on their farms for a half share of whatever they produced. They said, ‘We know more about farming [seeing that you are terrorists and all].’ So Muhammad made peace with them for a half share, provided that: ‘If we want to expel you, we may.’ He made a similar arrangement with Fadak. So Khaybar became the prey of the Muslims, while Fadak belonged exclusively to the Messenger of Allah, becoming his personal property, because the Muslims had not attacked its people with cavalry.”

Where were you when the cut the head of Mr. Burg off and where were you when the mulsums dragged and burned 4 Americans and hung them and Danced with joy?

I don't remember any sorrys from you?
We don't believe you are helping find the terrorist killers they want to kill your kind too? The Mulsums are sending Mulsums to kill Iraqi People what are you doing about it?

Mutilation of victims and Muslim law
By Jeff Jacoby | June 13, 2004
"A RECENT FATWA posted on a popular Islamic website in Saudi Arabia," reports Neil McFarquhar in The New York Times, "explains when a Muslim may mutilate the corpse of an infidel."
The ruling by Sheik Omar Abdullah Hassan al-Shehabi specifies two circumstances in which the desecration of an infidel -- a non-Muslim -- is permitted. One is retaliation "when the enemy is disfiguring Muslim corpses or when it otherwise serves the Islamic nation." The other is when mutilation will "terrorize the enemy" or "gladden the heart of a Muslim warrior."
Given those conditions, it is hard to imagine a situation in which an Islamist militant couldn't justify the mutilation of a victim's body.
"That a cleric can post such an argument in an open forum," commented McFarquhar, "goes a long way toward explaining how the most radical interpretations of religious texts flourish in Saudi Arabia."
But they don't flourish only in Saudi Arabia.
The popular "Ask the Scholar" feature of Islam Online (www.islamonline.net) was recently asked "how Islam views the issue of mutilating dead bodies of enemies." In a reply, Sheik Faysal Mawlawi, deputy chairman of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, began by declaring that mutilation is "not allowable" under Islam. But then came the loophole:
"It is possible to mutilate the dead only in case of retaliation. . . . If he inflicts any physical damage on anyone, he should be retaliated against in the same manner. In case of war, Muslims are allowed to take vengeance for their mutilated dead mujahids (fighters) in the same way it was done to them." This, the European sheik explained, is the teaching of the Koran (16:126), which counsels patience but authorizes revenge.
Does this mean that normative Islamic law authorizes Muslims to mangle the bodies of non-Muslims they have killed? I am not a scholar of Islam and would not presume to say. But two facts seem indisputable: (1) A Muslim intent on such mutilation can find clerical authority to justify it. And (2) a small but implacable minority of Muslims are intent on such mutilation. Indeed, it has become a signature of the evil we are fighting, as the news of the last few months has shown.
(Warning -- the following descriptions are graphic.)
Fallujah: Four Americans are ambushed, dragged from their vehicles, jumped on, and pounded with bricks. As jubilant Iraqis chant Islamic slogans, the bodies are dismembered and set on fire. Two of the charred remains are then hung from a bridge; the other two are dragged behind cars along the city's main street.
Khobar, Saudi Arabia: A British oil executive, Michael Hamilton, is one of 22 people murdered in an Al Qaeda attack. His corpse is dragged through the city, then dumped near a bridge.
Gaza: After six Israelis are blown up in a bomb attack, Palestinians are filmed dancing in the streets and playing with the dead men's body parts. In a video, two Islamic Jihad terrorists take credit for the massacre -- and display the severed head of one of their victims.
Iraq: Islamofascists videotape their murder of Nicholas Berg, a 26-year-old US civilian. Shouting "Allahu akhbar!" ("God is great!"), they saw off Berg's head as he shrieks in pain and fear.
The disfiguring of victims' bodies did not begin this year. In a notorious lynching four years ago, two Israeli reservists were taken from their car to the second floor of a Palestinian police station in the West Bank town of Ramallah, where they were literally torn limb from limb. Their internal organs were pulled from their bodies, their eyes were gouged out, and what was left of them was thrown from a window to a cheering crowd below, which set the corpses on fire and dragged them through the town.
Perhaps even more infamous -- at least to Americans -- were the beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl in Pakistan in 2002 and the mutilation of the bodies of US soldiers in Somalia in 1993.
We are in a war to the death with an enemy whose deepest civilizational values come straight out of the 8th century. In the world that they would impose on us all, there is no dissent, no pluralism, no path to God but theirs -- and no mercy or tolerance for those who might choose a different path.
Our enemies make no secret of their intentions: We will bow to their totalitarian idea of Islam, or we will be killed. And not only killed, but mangled, mutilated, and subjected to the most hideous indignities they can devise.
The terrorists and their followers burn and batter corpses for the same reason the Taliban smashed magnificent statues -- for the same reason Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf": to openly proclaim their contempt for the moral principles of the civilized world.
Ultimately it is up to the world's moderate, modern Muslims to rise up against the barbarians in their midst. Until that day comes, there is nothing the West can do to ameliorate or appease this enemy. We can only destroy it -- or be destroyed.
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Are you still sure jihad's engulfing Thailand (apart from its southernmost portions)? Everywhere you mention in the article is in Indonesia.

Hatshephhsut: I accept that you are trying to engage in a reasoned dialogue. I'm willing to talk offlist in detail about some of the questions you ask.

If the comments on "Jihad in China" are still up, you can get an idea of some of the things I think. While I am deeply disturbed at what the world of Islam is producing today, whether in its majority areas or diaspora, I do not share the sentiments of many that it is necessary to declare a new crusade, or expell Muslims en masses from Western countries.

Warning: I am a self-confessed Christian "fundamentalist"--which means that I believe the fundamentals of my faith concerning the person and work of Jesus Christ and the divine authority of the Old and New Testaments; that Christianity is true; people are eternally better off for accepting that Jesus made propitiation for the sins of His people on the cross; but I'm not about to club someone or throw a brick or bomb through his window.

Come, let us reason together, saith the LORD (Isaiah 1:18)

Kepha:

Read ALL the threads (and warnings from Spencer) from Nov.6, 7 and 8 before you [inadvisedly] correspond with "hatshepsut" offlist.